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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 7:04pm On Jan 26, 2021
asskush:
Hello All,

Experts in the house , kindly assist me to validate below quotation for 3 bedroom house roofing


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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by asskush: 7:10pm On Jan 26, 2021
money121:


Job done

Thanks for your patronage

For your Roofing project
Call/Whatsapp 08085310359

Thanks for the job well done, using this opportunity to tell everyone reading this that money121 is trustworthy. All the best man!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:18pm On Jan 26, 2021
Column/Beam Steel Shutters | Getting Ready for Bariga, Lagos Projects.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vickzie(m): 7:48pm On Jan 26, 2021
money121:


Job done

Thanks for your patronage

For your Roofing project
Call/Whatsapp 08085310359
why do people fancy very high pitched roofs, it looks odd especially when it's a bungalow. well choice and taste differs. but...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Paras011: 7:48pm On Jan 26, 2021
Understanding TMT Iron Rods

What you should understand about TMT iron rods
TMT iron rods are Thermo-Mechanically-Treated iron rods which are known for high strength. The name is derived from the manufacturing process which is a thermo-mechanical process where hot steel billets are passed through quenching process.

This process hardens the outer surface of the iron rods, enhancing their tensile strength, while the inner core remains soft, increasing its ductility. This alteration in microstructure across the cross-section of the rod imparts enormous strength to it.

Also, TMT iron rods do not go through any deformation or twisting processes. This is why their surface is free from cracks and other defects.
They are generally used in construction for superior protection against earthquake and other natural disasters. To however ensure safety for your structure, TMT iron rods should be resistant to corrosion as this helps to obtain a longer life to your structure.

What is the manufacturing process of TMT?
First, to manufacture TMT iron rods, the billets are passed through a rolling mill stand. These billets are again passed through the Tempcore water cooling system. While passing the billets through the water cooling system, the water pressure is optimized. The sudden quenching and drastic change in temperature toughen the outer layer of the rods, thus making them super tough and durable.
Once this process is over, the TMT iron rods are subject to atmospheric cooling. This is done in order to equalize the temperature difference between the soft inner core and the tough outer surface.
Once the TMT iron rods cool down, they slowly turn into a ferrite-pearlite mass. The inner core remains soft, giving the TMT iron rods great tensile strength and elongation point. This design is unique to the TMT iron rods and gives them superior ductility.
More so, this unique manufacturing process and the absence of cold stress make this iron rods corrosion-resistant and boost their weldability.

Why you should choose TMT iron rods over local iron rods
TMT iron rods have no surface deformities compared to local iron rods. Hence, they are ideal for critical infrastructure for better strength of the structures.
TMT iron rods have a higher load-bearing capacity than local iron rods. This helps to reduce the number of iron rods required for constructing a structure, thus also reducing cost of construction.
TMT iron rods are more ductile than local iron rods. This results in greater pliability, allowing for aesthetic designing of a structure.
They possess high stress yield and the capacity to withstand sudden loads, hence they are highly suitable for construction in zones with frequent or high seismic.
TMT iron rods have very few/negligible surface flaws compared to local iron rods, hence they are better at resisting corrosion, even in constructions which are frequently or permanently exposed to water, like canals, dams or bridges.

Go for the best TIGER TMT iron rods
TIGER TMT iron rods are high quality iron rods which have superior bonding with cement and concrete. They are produced with unmatchable yield strength.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by zuraking(m): 8:41pm On Jan 26, 2021
vickzie:
why do people fancy very high pitched roofs, it looks odd especially when it's a bungalow. well choice and taste differs. but...
I no wan forward until I saw your post. The high roof on that bungalow looks ugly (no offense)

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:55pm On Jan 26, 2021
Nice one.
asskush:


Thanks for the job well done, using this opportunity to tell everyone reading this that money121 is trustworthy. All the best man!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 9:00pm On Jan 26, 2021
zuraking:
I no wan forward until I saw your post. The high roof on that bungalow looks ugly (no offense)

Agreed with you shapeless but it's what the owner want
It is like oversize hat

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by zuraking(m): 9:03pm On Jan 26, 2021
GoodFaith:


Agreed with you shapeless but it's what the owner want
It is like oversize hat
we move if owner likes it smiley
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segzyfunmi: 11:11pm On Jan 26, 2021
Amastermovic:


BLINDING COST 35K y is casting of german floor now 10k pls guide me .


Pls professionals in the house, help answer my questions.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segzyfunmi: 11:12pm On Jan 26, 2021
diordaves:


Without the plan, the figures here are just ballpark figures but this will give you an insight into how this is done:

#Digging the foundation of 3 bedrooms aim for 50k.
(In Abeokuta, this might be tricky as the town can be rocky and difficult to dig but then again, because of the terrain you may not need a very deep foundation to get to stable soil).

Blinding aim from 35k

The setting of foundation block: I don't know how big is you flat, but let's guess 1300 blocks with a high foundation. To lay one block is N50.
so 50x1300 = N65k

Iron Bender to tie the basket and columns: aim from N35k

Carpenter formwork aim from: 10k

The casting of the Columns: For three bedrooms, depending on your design, your total columns should be around 16 columns. To cast one column aim from 1k per column.
So 1x16 = N16,000

Foundation and back filling aim for: 15K


Wetting of foundation (compacting) - 1k

Casting of German floor aim from: 10k

Total Labour: N237k

These figures are highly debatable but hopefully, you should now have an idea on the direction of travel.

Pls professionals in the house, help answer my questions.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 11:27pm On Jan 26, 2021
vickzie:
why do people fancy very high pitched roofs, it looks odd especially when it's a bungalow. well choice and taste differs. but...

It's a fashion statement or abi design statement sef.

To me It is art. It is an expression and impression of awe. It gives an otherwise simple building character and I boldly say culture and identity.

History will be kind to the building like the Pyramids of Egypt. When the Pyramids were being built, the people saw them odd. Three thousand years later we all know how they turned out. Tall roof is an African impression. I love it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by vickzie(m): 12:21am On Jan 27, 2021
diordaves:


It's a fashion statement or abi design statement sef.

To me It is art. It is an expression and impression of awe. It gives an otherwise simple building character and I boldly say culture and identity.

History will be kind to the building like the Pyramids of Egypt. When the Pyramids were being built, the people saw them odd. Three thousand years later we all know how they turned out. Tall roof is an African impression. I love it.
Bros whether art or not, there are structures that majority of persons would disapprove of immediately on first sight. Whether we like old and classic things, we must improve and conform to newer trends. I don't see Egypt building another pyramids in the near future. Imagine still using Nokia 3310 simply because "the battery na everlasting". I prefer 21st century Chinese structures to medieval Egyptian structures. How much does Egypt generate from it's pyramids, then compare it to how much Dubai generate from it's Burj khalifa. Even if my grandpa built one of those structures you posted, I go still knock am down build better structure, Can't be driving 1920 rolls Royce wey no get power steering and current tech simply because "classic" when they are better recent cars grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 12:49am On Jan 27, 2021
I think, out of respect for the owner of a property, even if we dont like how it looks, which is a personal decision, we should not make public, disparaging remarks about their building. Building is a thing of joy for the owner and we should not, without good reason, if there was ever one, sour someone's joy by our comments
It is disrespectful and not a nice thing to do.
Look, sigh and move on, will be more appropriate.
No Offense.



Lastpage!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:03am On Jan 27, 2021
segzyfunmi:



Pls professionals in the house, help answer my questions.

Your engineers bill is fair. Don’t mess up your project.

There’s no way you’d pay a cheaper amount for DPC.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 1:08am On Jan 27, 2021
rotecch77:



It is NOT POSSIBLE to have 2 separate SUBMERSIBLE pump inside ONE BORE HOLE
*Reason •*
In most case the diameter of domestic bore hole is 100~150mm and the diameter of submersible pump is 75-90mm and when installed the riser pipe will be at the CENTER point of the bore hole.
With this 2 submersible pump CANNOT work

UNLESS you are using SURFACE PUMP with this the pump will be installed at the ground surface then riiser pipe go down down into the bore hole ton-suck water and discharge it into the over head tank.
With this you can have like 3 separate pump and be working independently on there own.

But the issue here is that NOT ALL BORE HOLE can have this system work due to the water level bcs ONLY SPECIAL SURFACE PUMP can do the work unless if it’s a SHALLOW bore hole with water level of around 10-15ft if not the pump will not suck the water
But ( the system of surface pump ) it can work perfectly OK in WELL WATER of like 10-20 ft water level

Modified
If your bore hole water levels is deeper than 20ft and your need separate pump by all means to do such work then I can only recommend a special industrial surface pump of higher capacity for you.
But it’s very costly to do the set up

Chief, thanks a lot,, l really appreciate your detailed response.

With reference to the highlighted part: Can l add the Surface Pump, with the Riser pipe, to the existing normal borehole Submersible Pump setup?

What l mean it, if l can get the riser pipe down to the position where the water level is, side-by-side with that of the 'Riser of the Submersible pump' (or even beyond it), do you think that would work?

Since the Submersible's job is to bring up water from deep down the hole and the job of the surface pump is also to suck up water from the hole, the difference is that one is on the surface with a pipe extended down into the hole, while for the other, the pipe is extended to meet the Pump, down below.

Thank you Sir.

@bixton Thank you very much Sir.
I am still on a quest to use a single borehole, two separate pumps with separate Riser Pipes, running on different electricity lines such that if the electricity supply for one pump is ON/OFF, [b]it does not affect the other pump.


Lastpage!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GreenArrow1(m): 1:21am On Jan 27, 2021
Amastermovic:


BLINDING COST 35K y is casting of german floor now 10k pls guide me .

Casting of Oversite concrete (German Floor)

2 masons daily pay @3000 per = N6000
3 or 4 helpers daily pay @1500 per = N4500 or N6000
Total: N10500 /N12000

You can't get better than that. That is provided all materials are provided a day before to enable casting starts by 6:30/7AM in the morning so that proper paying of attention to detail in execution is achieved.
Also, carpenter must have finished his formwork for DPC and plumber must have laid starter pipes and guided them into position the previous day.

Na our work. I won't charge 10k for labour for DPC casting.

The bill is more than fair. Probably the engineer plans to augment any extra costs for section of work from funds saved from previous sections such as blinding.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:38am On Jan 27, 2021
GreenArrow1:


Casting of Oversite concrete (German Floor)

2 masons daily pay @3000 per = N6000
3 or 4 helpers daily pay @1500 per = N4500 or N6000
Total: N10500 /N12000

You can't get better than that. That is provided all materials are provided a day before to enable casting starts by 6:30/7AM in the morning.
Also, carpenter must have finished his formwork for DPC and plumber must have laid starter pipes and guided them into position the previous day.

Na our work. I won't charge 10k for labour for DPC casting.

The bill is more than fair. Probably the engineer plans to augment any extra costs for section of work from funds saved from previous sections such as blinding.

12k for DPC?

Abi I’m dreaming ni? 100mm thick or just 25mm? Regardless the size of the building I have NEVER budget anything less than 50k for DPC. (Read this part slowly)

Below is what DPC look like even in the government affordable housing scheme. You’re not allowed to manually mix concrete. I do minimum of 8 concreters for a 100sqm footprint.

Machine Operator - 1
Cement - 1
Water - 1
Granite - 1
Sand - 1
Loader/Carrier - 3
Bricklayer (leveling) - 1

Where will you get casting crew that’ll accept N1,500.


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@segzyfunmi this is reason why you need to share your building plan. Even if it’s a sketch.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GreenArrow1(m): 2:56am On Jan 27, 2021
n3xt:


12k for DPC?

Abi I’m dreaming ni? 100mm thick or just 25mm? Regardless the size of the building I have NEVER budget anything less than 50k for DPC. (Read this part slowly)

Below is what DPC look like even in the government affordable housing scheme. You’re not allowed to manually mix concrete. I do minimum of 8 concreters for a 100sqm footprint.

Machine Operator - 1
Cement - 1
Water - 1
Granite - 1
Sand - 1
Loader/Carrier - 3
Bricklayer (leveling) - 1

Where will you get casting crew that’ll accept N1,500.


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@segzyfunmi this is reason why you need to share your building plan. Even if it’s a sketch.

Exactly, that calculation was based around the 10k benchmark in question (remember I said I can't charge 10k for said section of work).
I believe the building in question has a small area and the oversite concrete would not be anywhere close to 100mm (more likely 25 or slightly higher). Probably be using hand mix and not conc mixer.
A lot of assumptions to work with.
Lastly, cost of labour is largely dependent the prevailing prices in location of said project.
Over here, labourers get paid 1500 or 500/bag regularly (not strange) to see.
I'm handling the construction of the office complex of a Federal parastatal presently and the prices I'm paying for unskilled/semi -skilled/skilled labour are very much different from that obtained when handling smaller private jobs like bungalows all in the same location.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by zuraking(m): 6:02am On Jan 27, 2021
lastpage:
I think, out of respect for the owner of a property, even if we dont like how it looks, which is a personal decision, [b]we should not make public, disparaging remarks about their building. [/b]Building is a thing of joy for the owner and we should not, without good reason, if there was ever one, sour someone's joy by our comments
It is disrespectful and not a nice thing to do.
Look, sigh and move on, will be more appropriate.
No Offense.



Lastpage!
if we ignore what's not normal on our buildings, I don't know why we are here to share idea then.

We are all here to learn, teach, criticize, correct and ginger ourselves wink

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Amastermovic(m): 6:14am On Jan 27, 2021
segzyfunmi:


Pls professionals in the house, help answer my questions.

No one will do over site conc. at that rate some practical reason .

Cost of boarding the edge (carpenter will charge you)

The carpenter still needs to be there should in case of unforseen event

Cost of machine and operator

If you settled for hand mix Manson will charge more to mix. Over site conc. Mix becomes harder heavier than just blinding

When labor hear concrete forget it they will likely not take 1500 except all stages of work is guarantee for that gang.

Like next said share your plan or gve this project to a Q's to quote for you

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:21am On Jan 27, 2021
GreenArrow1:


Exactly, that calculation was based around the 10k benchmark in question (remember I said I can't charge 10k for said section of work).
I believe the building in question has a small area and the oversite concrete would not be anywhere close to 100mm (more likely 25 or slightly higher). Probably be using hand mix and not conc mixer.
A lot of assumptions to work with.
Lastly, cost of labour is largely dependent the prevailing prices in location of said project.
Over here, labourers get paid 1500 or 500/bag regularly (not strange) to see.
I'm handling the construction of the office complex of a Federal parastatal presently and the prices I'm paying for unskilled/semi -skilled/skilled labour are very much different from that obtained when handling smaller private jobs like bungalows all in the same location.


A foundation that’ll gulp N3m is not a small foundation and so 25mm (1in) thick slab is not something you’d consider in a N3m foundation.

Even with a very good builder/engineer, N3m will put a good foundation up in Ajah, Lagos.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Okuda(m): 8:22am On Jan 27, 2021
money121:


Job done

Thanks for your patronage

For your Roofing project
Call/Whatsapp 08085310359

i dont believe house should be having such high roofs when there is nothing it is used for. to me, this is waste of resources..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Okuda(m): 8:25am On Jan 27, 2021
lastpage:
I think, out of respect for the owner of a property, even if we dont like how it looks, which is a personal decision, we should not make public, disparaging remarks about their building. Building is a thing of joy for the owner and we should not, without good reason, if there was ever one, sour someone's joy by our comments
It is disrespectful and not a nice thing to do.
Look, sigh and move on, will be more appropriate.
No Offense.




look at it frin the cost structure, it should then make sense to you.
Lastpage!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GreenArrow1(m): 8:39am On Jan 27, 2021
n3xt:


A foundation that’ll gulp N3m is not a small foundation and so 25mm (1in) thick slab is not something you’d consider in a N3m foundation.

Even with a very good builder/engineer, N3m will put a good foundation up in Ajah, Lagos.

Oh! Didn't read that 3M part. Maybe all these back and forth is over a typographical error where the stated sum is 100k wrongly typed as 10k.
Either way, I have no dog in the fight. Head full this morning.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by folmus: 8:44am On Jan 27, 2021
n3xt:
Column/Beam Steel Shutters | Getting Ready for Bariga, Lagos Projects.

So baba, do you rent these for DPC also?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 9:11am On Jan 27, 2021
Price of cement officially increased

Dangote and Lafarge blamed it on people's desperation.

Their thought is that, the marketers increased the price last year and people still rushed to buy as high as N5000. Hence, if they too increase, Nigerians are headstrong people, they would continue to buy

When can we start boycotting products in Nigeria?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 9:14am On Jan 27, 2021
n3xt:


12k for DPC?

Abi I’m dreaming ni? 100mm thick or just 25mm? Regardless the size of the building I have NEVER budget anything less than 50k for DPC. (Read this part slowly)

Below is what DPC look like even in the government affordable housing scheme. You’re not allowed to manually mix concrete. I do minimum of 8 concreters for a 100sqm footprint.

Machine Operator - 1
Cement - 1
Water - 1
Granite - 1
Sand - 1
Loader/Carrier - 3
Bricklayer (leveling) - 1

Where will you get casting crew that’ll accept N1,500.


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@segzyfunmi this is reason why you need to share your building plan. Even if it’s a sketch.

The soil texture here is clay right?

Do you feel comfortable building on Clay soil?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 9:16am On Jan 27, 2021
n3xt:


12k for DPC?

Abi I’m dreaming ni? 100mm thick or just 25mm? Regardless the size of the building I have NEVER budget anything less than 50k for DPC. (Read this part slowly)

Below is what DPC look like even in the government affordable housing scheme. You’re not allowed to manually mix concrete. I do minimum of 8 concreters for a 100sqm footprint.

Machine Operator - 1
Cement - 1
Water - 1
Granite - 1
Sand - 1
Loader/Carrier - 3
Bricklayer (leveling) - 1

Where will you get casting crew that’ll accept N1,500.


_______

@segzyfunmi this is reason why you need to share your building plan. Even if it’s a sketch.

The soil texture here is clay right?

Do you feel comfortable building on Clay soil?
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by folmus: 9:20am On Jan 27, 2021
davodyguy:
Price of cement officially increased

Dangote and Lafarge blamed it on people's desperation.

Their thought is that, the marketers increased the price last year and people still rushed to buy as high as N5000. Hence, if they too increase, Nigerians are headstrong people, they would continue to buy

When can we start boycotting products in Nigeria?

That's what happened in a jungle. Isn't there any government regulation agency to monitor prices?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:43am On Jan 27, 2021
lastpage:


Chief, thanks a lot,, l really appreciate your detailed response.

With reference to the highlighted part: Can l add the Surface Pump, with the Riser pipe, to the existing normal borehole Submersible Pump setup?

What l mean it, if l can get the riser pipe down to the position where the water level is, side-by-side with that of the 'Riser of the Submersible pump' (or even beyond it), do you think that would work?

Since the Submersible's job is to bring up water from deep down the hole and the job of the surface pump is also to suck up water from the hole, the difference is that one is on the surface with a pipe extended down into the hole, while for the other, the pipe is extended to meet the Pump, down below.

Thank you Sir.

@bixton Thank you very much Sir.
I am still on a quest to use a single borehole, two separate pumps with separate Riser Pipes, running on different electricity lines such that if the electricity supply for one pump is ON/OFF, [b]it does not affect the other pump.


Lastpage!


@ bolded area ( according to your replied to my earlier post) its possible to used both surface and submersible pump together.
But you need to make sure that the pump capacity is enough to pump the water according to the water level of the bore hole.
More so you need to redo another iron bore hole cover to be able to accommodate the double pipe
See the attached sketch

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