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Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by DharmieDhrey(m): 9:04am On Jan 27, 2021
As at last night in my area, there was a clash between Eiye and Alora.(Aiye na endangered species for my side, very small in number) A lot of lives were lost, you'll cringe at the gory sight of corpses littered in the streets. Area scatter no be small
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by hatchetman(m): 9:13am On Jan 27, 2021
DharmieDhrey:
As at last night in my area, there was a clash between Eiye and Alora.(Aiye na endangered species for my side, very small in number) A lot of lives were lost, you'll cringe at the gory sight of corpses littered in the streets. Area scatter no be small
Where be your area na?
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by DharmieDhrey(m): 9:44am On Jan 27, 2021
hatchetman:
Where be your area na?
Matogun in Ogun state, not far from Oke-Aro (it is a home to the largest pig farm in West Africa).. Not far from this popular place called Agege in Lagos
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Deffjam: 10:38am On Jan 27, 2021
DharmieDhrey:
As at last night in my area, there was a clash between Eiye and Alora.(Aiye na endangered species for my side, very small in number) A lot of lives were lost, you'll cringe at the gory sight of corpses littered in the streets. Area scatter no be small
last last alora don follow for hit.
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Chris525: 11:12am On Jan 27, 2021
I just been through the last couple of threads. Someone was talking about how the police know these criminals and yet appear to be ineffective against criminal gang cases.

The police may know the criminals but may not know who did what at a particular time. To know where a particular person was at a particular time, his role in an incident and how much damage or devastation he caused is what a solid case is built on and how we can lock criminals and gang members away. Without video evidence, they have to rely on key witnesses which we all know are hard to come by in Nigeria today.

There was a case of a cultist who went to kill another in his house. When he was arrested people in his own house testified that he was at home that night (out of fear, of course) while the people at the victim’s house said he was at their area the same night and murdered the victim. These kind of cases can only be resolved by key witnesses. Because after you still confirm his true location, maybe using the celltower signal on his phone at the time, you still have to prove that he indeed murdered the victim. The celltower signal wont give you that information. Only key witnesses can.

Also cases where known criminals are being released after serving a short time in jail are mostly down to this, lack of credible & actionable information & key witnesses. No matter how many people you know someone has killed; if he’s arrested with a gun during a stop and search, unless people come forward, he will be charged for illegal possession of firearm and would most likely do a much lesser sentence than he would have for multiple murders. Its that simple. I acknowledge that there’s fraud in the system as well but this is just about our civic responsibility and where we come short as citizens.

All the great Police force in the world rely on witnesses. Without which, their work will be tough. The blame is often neither with the NPF or citizens as both are limited by circumstances beyond their control. We need to go back to having a strong communal system. A jail-breaker should not be living with law abiding citizens who know who he is & watch him wreck havoc and appear to be okay with it. In the developed countries we like to imitate, that would never happen.

There’s the fear of reprisal attacks on people who ‘snitch’ on gang members and I acknowledge that the danger is real but lets change with the time and get ahead. We cant continue to be idle and useless. One can open a twitter account with fictitious names & a good VPN to hide location and IP. With this offer credible & actionable intel to the police via their twitter handle on criminal gang activity or location. There are VOIP apps that will sell a Nigeria number; with which to call or text police and cant be traced to you. And you can choose to share info with state command offices or the police public response unit who’ll in turn pass it on to local police incase the local police connive with criminals & gang members in the area. So lets be inventive. At least if anything, report a jail breaker who continues to be a danger to the community.
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by RedChiefPriest: 2:47pm On Jan 27, 2021
DharmieDhrey:
As at last night in my area, there was a clash between Eiye and Alora.(Aiye na endangered species for my side, very small in number) A lot of lives were lost, you'll cringe at the gory sight of corpses littered in the streets. Area scatter no be small
Haha where's the dude that was hyping dem alora boys last year?
Come and see your role model o
Shebi alora no dey fight
Aloras na fine boys
Aloras are neat
Aloras are only about dating girls
Ricardo is an intelligent man
Alora is for the intellectuals
Alora is for graduates
Alora is this, Alora is that.


Where the guy dey?
Hope say them never use am count scores for ogun bayiiiiii if he still be member?
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Kingfish542: 3:04pm On Jan 27, 2021
Chris525:
I just been through the last couple of threads. Someone was talking about how the police know these criminals and yet appear to be ineffective against criminal gang cases.

The police may know the criminals but may not know who did what at a particular time. To know where a particular person was at a particular time, his role in an incident and how much damage or devastation he caused is what a solid case is built on and how we can lock criminals and gang members away. Without video evidence, they have to rely on key witnesses which we all know are hard to come by in Nigeria today.

There was a case of a cultist who went to kill another in his house. When he was arrested people in his own house testified that he was at home that night (out of fear, of course) while the people at the victim’s house said he was at their area the same night and murdered the victim. These kind of cases can only be resolved by key witnesses. Because after you still confirm his true location, maybe using the celltower signal on his phone at the time, you still have to prove that he indeed murdered the victim. The celltower signal wont give you that information. Only key witnesses can.

Also cases where known criminals are being released after serving a short time in jail are mostly down to this, lack of credible & actionable information & key witnesses. No matter how many people you know someone has killed; if he’s arrested with a gun during a stop and search, unless people come forward, he will be charged for illegal possession of firearm and would most likely do a much lesser sentence than he would have for multiple murders. Its that simple. I acknowledge that there’s fraud in the system as well but this is just about our civic responsibility and where we come short as citizens.

All the great Police force in the world rely on witnesses. Without which, their work will be tough. The blame is often neither with the NPF or citizens as both are limited by circumstances beyond their control. We need to go back to having a strong communal system. A jail-breaker should not be living with law abiding citizens who know who he is & watch him wreck havoc and appear to be okay with it. In the developed countries we like to imitate, that would never happen.

There’s the fear of reprisal attacks on people who ‘snitch’ on gang members and I acknowledge that the danger is real but lets change with the time and get ahead. We cant continue to be idle and useless. One can open a twitter account with fictitious names & a good VPN to hide location and IP. With this offer credible & actionable intel to the police via their twitter handle on criminal gang activity or location. There are VOIP apps that will sell a Nigeria number; with which to call or text police and cant be traced to you. And you can choose to share info with state command offices or the police public response unit who’ll in turn pass it on to local police incase the local police connive with criminals & gang members in the area. So lets be inventive. At least if anything, report a jail breaker who continues to be a danger to the community.
the same Nigeria where innocent people are arrested without evidence, its the same Nigeria that they are looking for key witness or whatever.
my friend who was coming from church got raided and spent 8 months in prison. the system is bleeped up men
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Kingfish542: 3:05pm On Jan 27, 2021
Deffjam:
last last alora don follow for hit.
so dem no dey follow before
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Deffjam: 3:21pm On Jan 27, 2021
Kingfish542:
so dem no dey follow before
its been awhile and i mean a hit that would draw attension....
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Deffjam: 3:24pm On Jan 27, 2021
Oga chris525,....longest time.
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Sennex57: 3:55pm On Jan 27, 2021
RedChiefPriest:
Haha where's the dude that was hyping dem alora boys last year?
Come and see your role model o
Shebi alora no dey fight
Aloras na fine boys
Aloras are neat
Aloras are only about dating girls
Ricardo is an intelligent man
Alora is for the intellectuals
Alora is for graduates
Alora is this, Alora is that.


Where the guy dey?
Hope say them never use am count scores for ogun bayiiiiii if he still be member?
grin grin grin grin grin
I don’t know why BAN members like doing this the most the whining about How BAN is not for touts maybe it’s because they are going under reformation and are trying to weed out the bad guys but yeah I hear that the most from BAN members that “Alora we don’t kill we are just for flexing”
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by RedChiefPriest: 4:51pm On Jan 27, 2021
Sennex57:
grin grin grin grin grin
I don’t know why BAN members like doing this the most the whining about How BAN is not for touts maybe it’s because they are going under reformation and are trying to weed out the bad guys but yeah I hear that the most from BAN members that “Alora we don’t kill we are just for flexing”
Asin e tire me for those guys oooo
U no dey fight but still you go dey shout "you price you pay" ,you get language for gun,cutlass and to kill and even their song&quotes reeks of violence according to the ones written out by one dude when he was exposing alora.
I guess Ricardo was sleeping when he composed the violence parts since alora kuku is about peace and flexing..
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Kingfish542: 7:29pm On Jan 27, 2021
Sennex57:
grin grin grin grin grin
I don’t know why BAN members like doing this the most the whining about How BAN is not for touts maybe it’s because they are going under reformation and are trying to weed out the bad guys but yeah I hear that the most from BAN members that “Alora we don’t kill we are just for flexing”
as in ehnn, the confidence they will be using to say it, I will be wondering if all the things going on in southwest is just acting or I'm the one hallucinating.
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Nezzjnr: 8:00pm On Jan 27, 2021
NNAMDIII:
I know the guy that died, his name is monero, he once dated my aunt, just got the news, I'm so sad.... cultism doesn't pay, funnily enough this monero is very rich oo, he has more than 5 bet9ja shop, he's also a gee boy..







if you're living in surulere please avoid pako aguda, else they'll use you and count scores
Surulere that's among the High brow areas on the mainland??


Lagos isn't safe again mhen
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Magnoliaa(f): 8:15pm On Jan 27, 2021
DharmieDhrey:
As at last night in my area, there was a clash between Eiye and Alora.(Aiye na endangered species for my side, very small in number) A lot of lives were lost, you'll cringe at the gory sight of corpses littered in the streets. Area scatter no be small
[color=deeppink]Cultists still dey?? o.o[/color]
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by DharmieDhrey(m): 9:03pm On Jan 27, 2021
RedChiefPriest:
Haha where's the dude that was hyping dem alora boys last year?
Come and see your role model o
Shebi alora no dey fight
Aloras na fine boys
Aloras are neat
Aloras are only about dating girls
Ricardo is an intelligent man
Alora is for the intellectuals
Alora is for graduates
Alora is this, Alora is that.


Where the guy dey?
Hope say them never use am count scores for ogun bayiiiiii if he still be member?
Some alora guys are very good looking, intelligent and calm, you can't deny this. not hyping them though.. That's the lie they feed people with, most of them are miscreants without any sense of direction.. But these ones for my side, when I see them I feel I'd throw up.. Dirty, disgusting blabbermouths rocking yellow berets...
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Sennex57: 10:15pm On Jan 27, 2021
DharmieDhrey:
Some alora guys are very good looking, intelligent and calm, you can't deny this. not hyping them though.. That's the lie they feed people with, most of them are miscreants without any sense of direction.. But these ones for my side, when I see them I feel I'd throw up.. Dirty, disgusting blabbermouths rocking yellow berets...
Yeah they are same way with any other confraternities boys I can show you fly Axemen boys Fly looking aro and Eiye but none of them deny that they don’t have touts in their confraternity. Sealords will deny this though.
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Ebenezar2O2I(f): 3:54am On Jan 28, 2021
freshkpomo:
Some people in some parts of Benin are now getting used to seeing dead bodies everyday. Just imagine a guy killed around Uselu area was left there for hours, it's someone that now covered some part of his body with banner.



Another guy that was killed in same Uselu, an Eiye guy. Before dropping him, about 6ayes dropped some other guy not too far away as he was seated in his compound. They later went on to kill the other guy who was enjoying his night with a soldier man who warned him not to go out,The guy said he needed to go get some drug(trams). These ayes guys had a formation of 3 on one side and three on the other side just so he could not escape, they shot him at close range but bullets could not penetrate but it made him weak, they axed his skull open (note everything happened in less than 3minutes cos his gang members came swiftly). Area cast, everyone lock door, gunshots everywhere...



EDO war is clearer now, it's government against opposition.
is this recently?
Cos i heard everything returned to normalcy
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by ubola: 5:36am On Jan 28, 2021
Kingfish542:
rest Abeg, whenever una don hear religion na so una go dey dey sensitive anyhow. yes there is no difference with a Christian that kills for Christ. no be only dicey issue
Point of correction, no Christian kills for Christ. Christ died for us and our duty is to acknowledge that act of His and have eternal life, thanks
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by otipoju(m):
ubola:
Point of correction, no Christian kills for Christ. Christ died for us and our duty is to acknowledge that act of His and have eternal life, thanks
A lot of so called Christians know next to nothing about church history. A lot of Christians have killed for Christ sake. Google the Reformation , Spanish Inquisition, Jerusalem Crusades.etc Martin Luther, Ulrich Zwingli etc

Even the original settlers of the great USA were Christians fleeing persecution from fellow Christians in Europe
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by freshkpomo(m): 7:53am On Jan 28, 2021
Ebenezar2O2I:
is this recently?
Cos i heard everything returned to normalcy
Normal wetin? I think a day or two ago a matured man was killed in Egba community and reprisal is expected. Robbery and killings still dey happen back to back.
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by freshkpomo(m): 8:01am On Jan 28, 2021
DharmieDhrey:
Benin must be very hot now, are they reprisal attacks on the part of the aiyes cause I saw a picture on this thread where NBM declared war against Eiye earlier this year.
End SARS protest and the concluded election caused the war. Some hoodlums that were paid to hijack the protest actually anger some protesters who were cultists too. The day a dead body was dropped at the national Assembly after hoodlums killed him, one of the protesters fingered one of the hoodlum out and was like "that small boy point gun face me, na front of him mama shop for upper I o go kill am".


Secondly, who paid the hoodlums the said 1500? The governor or those who are angry with EDO people for voting against them? I believe you will have your answers by now. The prison break was planned, most of the escapees already left the country.


Lastly, the brutality of these thieves and the killers shows up that they have been in the business for long. Our just disbanded security outfit AKA SARS is a unit filled with cultist and that might be another party angry with the people too.
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by LeopardX: 11:46am On Jan 28, 2021
otipoju:
A lot of so called Christians know next to nothing about church history. A lot of Christians have killed for Christ sake. Google the Reformation , Spanish Inquisition, Jerusalem Crusades.etc Martin Luther, Ulrich Zwingli etc

Even the original settlers of the great USA were Christians fleeing persecution from fellow Christians in Europe
You need to distinguish between Protestant Christianity and Catholicism in this case.
62 million protestant Christians were killed by the Catholic Church in two decades many years back.
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Ebenezar2O2I(f): 1:27pm On Jan 28, 2021
freshkpomo:
Normal wetin? I think a day or two ago a matured man was killed in Egba community and reprisal is expected. Robbery and killings still dey happen back to back.
and UNIBEN dey resume on Monday chai are the students especially my sis staying off campus in ekosodin gonna be safehuh
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by The5DME(m): 2:18pm On Jan 28, 2021
Ebenezar2O2I:
and UNIBEN dey resume on Monday chai are the students especially my sis staying off campus in ekosodin gonna be safehuh
wetin concern your sister concern cult fights? Make she jus no stay out late, das all.
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by otipoju(m): 2:50pm On Jan 28, 2021
LeopardX:
You need to distinguish between Protestant Christianity and Catholicism in this case.
62 million protestant Christians were killed by the Catholic Church in two decades many years back.
1. Dont tell me that you are alleging that Catholics are not Christians. It will just be like saying " i did not do it, its my hand that did it"

2. Dont tell me you dont know that the leader of the Protestant Reformation Martin Luther killed other Christians.

3. Dont tell me that you dont know that Ulrich Zwingli another pillar of the Protestant Reformation in Switzerland also did the same. They both fought actual wars in the name of christ persecuting other Christians.

Christians have killed in the name of the Christ in the past although it is very very very rare now.
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by LeopardX: 3:23pm On Jan 28, 2021
otipoju:
1. Dont tell me that you are alleging that Catholics are not Christians. It will just be like saying " i did not do it, its my hand that did it"

2. Dont tell me you dont know that the leader of the Protestant Reformation Martin Luther killed other Christians.

3. Dont tell me that you dont know that Ulrich Zwingli another pillar of the Protestant Reformation in Switzerland also did the same. They both fought actual wars in the name of christ persecuting other Christians.

Christians have killed in the name of the Christ in the past although it is very very very rare now.
True submission
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by butterfly777(m): 3:32pm On Jan 28, 2021
The5DME:
One word: IDEOLOGY!!!!!
There no difference between an islamic terrorist who kills for Allah and a cultist who kills for kf. It's ideology men.
So you kill the guy that toasts your girlfriend because of ideology?
You rob the innocent as part of your freedom fighting?
You rape people for cultism as part of demonic ideology?
Now, I see.
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by The5DME(m): 3:33pm On Jan 28, 2021
butterfly777:
So you kill the guy that toasts your girlfriend because of ideology?
You rob the innocent as part of your freedom fighting?
You rape people for cultism as part of demonic ideology?
Now, I see.
you well bros? Abi you miss road?
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Sennex57: 4:59pm On Jan 28, 2021
butterfly777:
So you kill the guy that toasts your girlfriend because of ideology?
You rob the innocent as part of your freedom fighting?
You rape people for cultism as part of demonic ideology?
Now, I see.
No offence but you missed the point
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by The5DME(m): 5:01pm On Jan 28, 2021
Sennex57:
No offence but you missed the point
na zombie na...... See as e jus misinterpret my write-up.
Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Sennex57: 5:08pm On Jan 28, 2021
One thing we can all practical agree on here is cultism is bad and a waste of time but in terms of reformation I’m actually shocked on how NAS turned out I wouldn’t say they went under total reformation but yeah always going to be some bad eggs (I’m not saying go and join Pyrates o) then I would say BAN is going along that path. Then maybe Aye in a couple of years. Hear me out!

NAS is not really brought up as much as other cults when it comes to clashes they do accept that there is some hoodlums and touts in their fraternity but they really underwent strict laws to help weed out the touts and street players.

BAN is trying to do the same but they just straight up deny them instead of actually trying to revoke people on the streets affiliation to the fraternity.

I can see somehow NBM might do this in the next 20years or so because all this cultism thing is really starting to get out of hand.

Eiye will never reform please don’t even try argue with me grin I rarely hear older members say “you know what let’s stop all this bloodshed do more for the community try to be a real fraternity and not like all these killing cults” only very few, it’s more like try to get to the top of the ranks before you graduate and turn into a world bird so you have a lot of power.
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