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| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by gwafaeziokwu: 11:01pm On Jan 29, 2021 |
Load of rubbish. I am coming. What nonsense! |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Benwallt(m): 11:03pm On Jan 29, 2021 |
pazienza:if the inside is like this, with so much disunity where does an outsider come in and take the insiders seriously with so much unhealthy and unprofitable bickering that is of no benefit other than mockery. I have never seen a yoruba dissociation him or herself from another yoruba speaking individual for whatever reason. |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by ChangedMan1999(m): 11:38pm On Jan 29, 2021*. Modified: 12:43am On Jan 30, 2021 |
Pazienza, the fact that you posted what Nwaezeigwe, the Ibusa man said shows that you support him. One thing you should know, is that it is not Pius Anyim's fault. For example, when Igbo haters in this forum insults us Southeasterners that we are attaching to Delta North and North of Rivers state people by force, these people won't come to our rescue by correcting the haters; they will just be watching us. This week, someone who claims that he is Ijaw, told me that Leo Irabor the new CDS, is his brother, because they are both Niger Deltans. And I should stop claiming that the CDS is an Igbo man. When I read that his comment, I didn't know the next thing I would comment. Because, I knew that no Anioma person will come to my rescue(although thousands of them are in this forum) So, I felt that I was foolish, in the first place by claiming the CDS as my tribesman. The other time, I was working with an Anioma guy and I asked him "I wu onye Igbo". His reply was "anyi na asu Igbo" ( we speak Igbo) So tell me why we South easterners won't be confused about this kind of thing. When I was writing Junior WAEC, a boy from Kaduna Nzeogwu home town was in my class. When a teacher asked if there is anyone that doesn't doesn't understand Igbo, he stood up and said that he is not Igbo. In this article by Nwaezeigwe, an Ibusa man, I spotted where he wrote that one of the reason his people don't want to be called Igbo is because South easterners don't behave the way they want. So, tell me if it not stupid to deny your blood because you don't like the way he behaves. Last year, Wike said they don't have indigenous Igbo people in Rivers. If Etche, Ikwerre, Oyigbo, Ogba, Ndoni and Egbema truely believe that they are Ndigbo, why didn't even if it is one person from this groups announce it that the governor should not deny him his origin. No. The kept quite, because they don't believe that they are one blood with us. No hating These people are the ones distancing from us; it is not we South Easterners. We South Easterners have tried so many times to make them see that God made us one tribe. Because of this many ethnic groups in Nigeria are losing the respect the have for us South Easterners. They are even calling us "attache by force, land grabbers e.t.c" We South Easterners are just marveled and happy that we have brothers in other states. We love them the way a family that have had male children throughout, love the female baby that God surprised them with. But, they don't want us Now, tell me if a normal human being won't be suspicious of this kind of situation. Lastly, the way I see things this issue( I am Igbo. I am not Igbo) won't be resolved. All I want for my fellow South Easterners and our Ezza brothers in Benue state is Biafra. We need to run away from all this nonsense. |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by IduNaOba: 11:44pm On Jan 29, 2021 |
Jamesbally:Lies Go check out HRM Martha dunkwu Omu anioma You will see for yourself |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Iykoto86(m): 1:52am On Jan 30, 2021 |
Jamesbally:what is this one saying. |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by oilyngbati(m): 2:08am On Jan 30, 2021 |
eduj:Pazienza didn’t write the article. He only posted an article written by an anioma professor to show you the mindset of some of these people towards the Igbo of SE |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Ekealterego: 2:13am On Jan 30, 2021 |
Jamesbally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SU6h1YX390 CC: Pazienza, IduNaOba. Hear this girl's experience... Sometimes the SE Igbos are at fault too. |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Yujin(m): 2:58am On Jan 30, 2021 |
eduj:The article wasn't written by pazienza. He copied from an Anioma writer. One can feel his pain and sense his frustration at the political quandary at display by our politicians both past and present. |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Yujin(m): 4:24am On Jan 30, 2021*. Modified: 9:04am On Jan 30, 2021 |
pazienza:I quite agree with most of your submissions but hesitate to go with others. Without this Nigeria and the ugly Igbo history with her, do you think we'll be having this back and forth? This is a jamb question so watch closely before you respond. Our leaders in the past made huge mistakes which really affected our people and the present ones are still making same. Azikiwe and Ironsi put the Igbo nation in a mess by never being strategic and these current ones haven't learnt anything from it. A succesful handsome looking man must know how to engage others without attracting attention to his wealth and looks else he'll expend a lot of energy fighting off jealous mates rather than expanding and consolidating his wealth. When will our people learn this? Ironsi's strategical blunder cost us allies when he could have got such support effortlessly. He was a confused as a duck. Nnamdi Azikiwe was the same story. It's the same place the Rochas, Orji Uzor Kalu ,Amaechi and Umahi are headed. They don't realize that that path is barren leading only to the wilderness. Isn't it foolishness to continue doing the same thing and expect another result? Back to our SE/SS Igbo problems. The problem as I can see it not whether we refuse them the Igbo identity or they deny it independently. None of this will solve the problems we all want to go away. You see, it is difficult even for twins who grew up separate and independent of each other to just meet in their adult age and get along perfectly especially when their venue of meeting becomes suddenly plagued with tensions and troubles. This captures the situation that is mitigating our much desired oneness. Aside from politics, are we really building on our oneness? I prefer to use the word "oneness". What other social ways are both groups meeting to help unify our people and build the national consciousness? Is Ohaneze the only socio-cultural group that has members from both groups? If it is, then it's not enough. We need more especially those that have to deal with the grassroot where young people meet one another and interact. This should be devoid of the ever ubiquitous competition that characterizes our people especially from SE but rather focus on understanding and complimenting one another. Many people don't know how much a number of grown ups from Anioma never knew they're Igbo despite bearing Igbo name because their parents never told them they're one. Many still don't know that the Anioma identity is not even diffused to all the parts of Anioma. It is not strong in Ukwuani or Ika. A good number of Ukwuanis will claim they share more affinity with Urhobos than Ikas despite they don't understand Urhobo but can relate linguistically with someone from Ika whereas the Ika sees brotherhood more in an Ishan than Ukwuanis. Both the Ukwuanis and Ika see the Enuanis as some manageble Igbo that they can relate with. If you can understand this, then you can see the problem is deeper than just accepting the Igbo identity. Our decentralized nature created fault lines that requires master skills and lots of sacrifice to blur and get our people to work together. The same level of sacrifice lots of clans in the SE did to give the block SE today is what these other clans need to give for a unified Igbo nation. The unified SE must itself be unified and sacrifice a lot as an entity to encourage these other SS clans to sacrifice more for the project to be successful. It is easier to blame and seek the easy way out but there's simply no gain from such. Today, because of the denials, many Aniomas especially around Ika and Ukwuani can't speak their dialects outside. Though they understand Central Igbo but they won't want to speak it. It's affecting them culturally. The Enuanis themselves are trying but yet the centrifugal forces are still strong. The painful thing is that if these constituent parts of Anioma allow their tactlessness to defeat sound reasoning, they'll become the minority of all minorities. The SE Igbo must proffer the capable leadership expected of them by focussing on two things which are; the oneness of our people and the growth, good, development and progress of our people and land. Every thought, action and decision should be taken in that direction. Collectively we will build our land and people and proudly beqeauth to our children a great and well established Igbo country. Although accusing SS Igbos as fair weather Igbos might not be entirely untrue, yet it doesn't entirely help the situation. Didn't some other SS Igbos stick alongside us through thick and thin? We can't insult the sensibilities of such people simply because we want to get back to those ones who lacked courage. Let me stop for now. |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Jamesbally: 6:58am On Jan 30, 2021 |
IduNaOba:Trash. After the appointment of an Anioma man as the new Chief of Defence Staff. The President of Ohaneze Ndigbo still call on President Buhari to appoint an IGBO man as the next Inspector General of Police.
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| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Jamesbally: 7:01am On Jan 30, 2021 |
Iykoto86:.
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| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Jamesbally: 7:02am On Jan 30, 2021 |
Naughtysex:Chai, my coment pain this man very well. ![]()
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| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Nobody: 8:33am On Jan 30, 2021 |
pazienza:ok I understand now .I was shocked thinking you wrote it |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by babatunx(m): 11:32am On Jan 30, 2021 |
Lol. This is brutal, but tactless from the Prof. You don't bring this sort of stinkingly dirty linen outside to wash. It creates new problems while complicating the old. Well, thanks for enlightening us further on some of the past events that often feature in the heart of Southern political discourse -- the betrayers, heroes, hypocrites etc. |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by jude79(m): 2:48pm On Jan 30, 2021 |
babatunx:One igbo musician, "lf I greet you and you didn't answer, I'll stop greeting you" so if l call you igbo, and you Denie, then I'll denie you igbo when you want to claim one. |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by ChinenyeN(m): 8:49pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
Rather than work towards devaluing the presidency... *shakes head*. It’s no wonder this convoluted experience will never end. |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Dpharisee: 9:00pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
Naughtysex:Please among the Onicha brothers in Anambra and Delta state who is the most senior. Onicha Ugbo, Onicha Olona, Onitsha etc? |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Naughtysex: 11:22pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
Dpharisee:Most senior in what aspect? by age as human or by establishment of the village? |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by strykr: 11:55pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
I stopped reading when I saw the writer blame SE Igbos for the 1966 coup. A coup spearheaded by his SS/anioma brother. The SS Igbos are the trickiest and worst set of humans any tribe can wish for. I stand by Pius Anyim statement. The 2023 presidency clamour is simply for the SE region. It's not the fault of South Easterners that the region is homogeneous. If we get it fine, if we don't get it fine too, but we would never pander to the whims and devices of turncoats and identity crisis ridden opportunists. If after 2023, the only people that accept the Igbos tag is South easterners, then we move forward. Our generation would not take the insults and degradation these SS chameleons poured on our fathers. Our children would not continue this argument in their time. The Igbo identity would be reborn and forged in fire and blood for the last time in this era. |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Dedetwo(m): 11:58pm On Feb 01, 2021 |
I do not discern from Senator Anyim Pius Anyim's write-up as attempt to classify who is Igbo or not. Nigeria is shifty mess when national politics is at play. When Nigerians talk about rotational presidency, it is not bordered on ethnicity but geopolitical zone. When northeast geopolitical zone is mentioned, the Fulani people in Sokoto State are not factored in the equation. By the same token, when south-south geopolitical are mentioned, the Igbo in Imo State are not factored. It is a mere attempt to be mischievous by the writer to loop Anyim Pius Anyim into a cultural identity which is beyond the options of Senator Anyim Pius Anyim. Like everything about Nigeria, geopolitical politics has the trappings of dishonesty. Of course, if presidency of the shithole called Nigeria by any chance in hell is zoned to southeast, Igbo person from south-south or north-central zone is completely out of commission. However if by stroke of magic the powers in Nigeria made a wrong turn and proclaimed the zoning of presidency now resides with Igbo, any Igbo son or daughter from southeast, south-south and north-central has ancestral shot at it. |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Konquest: 4:09pm On Oct 28, 2021 |
pazienza: |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Konquest: 4:12pm On Oct 28, 2021 |
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| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by Konquest: 4:22pm On Oct 28, 2021*. Modified: 3:30pm On Jun 27, 2024 |
pazienza:Bump. An article originally written by Professor Nwaezeigwe, an Ibusa man from Delta State. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SU6h1YX390 Quoting right below an earlier poster on this thread page: "Hear this girl's experience... Sometimes the SE "Igbos" are at fault too." |
| Re: This Is What Happens When A SEner Denies An Igbo From Anioma From Igbo Tag by seunmsg(m): 4:37pm On Oct 28, 2021 |
[b]Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe: The Secretary of State for Colonies Mr. O Lyttelton in his Memorandum to the 1953 London Constitutional Conference PREM 11/1367, no. 375 of 17 August, 1953 described Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe as: “an American-educated demagogue, who makes few interventions but able, persuasive, apparently moderate and wholly unreliable.” Dr. Azikiwe agreed with Chief Obafemi Awolowo in their Joint NCNC-AG Memorandum to the 1953 London Constitutional Conference to support the creation of additional Regions out of the three Regions after independence, but went ahead to betray Chief Awolowo by joining Sir Ahmadu Bello to create only Midwest Region out of Chief Awolowo’s Western Region; while abandoning the Middle Belt and CORE State Region agitations respectively in Northern and Eastern Regions.Quite revealing. |
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