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Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by haekymbahd(m): 12:54am On Feb 04, 2021 |
Regene2020:even Moses Abraham, Noah e.t.c |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by haekymbahd(m): 12:56am On Feb 04, 2021 |
Regene2020:even Moses ... Can you give evidence What is meant by Jesus being sent to lost sheep of Israel are there also sheep's among the Jew not lost? |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Regene2020: 1:00am On Feb 04, 2021 |
haekymbahd:No they didn't. By virtue of the sin of Adam as first man, no man could access God holy place (Both on Earth where he was driven from the garden or heaven) God is a holy God you don't except what he condenmed on Earth to come pollute his holy heaven. |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Regene2020: 1:04am On Feb 04, 2021 |
haekymbahd:ofcourse I can give evidence, i would place a YouTube link of the audio Bible book of Nicodemus later(it details what transpired after Christ death, his descent into hell to release the prophets including Adam who were all placed under the shadow of sheol ) The lost sheep are those who haven't received him as Messiah |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by haekymbahd(m): 1:07am On Feb 04, 2021 |
Regene2020:According to Allah Allah SWT said: "And Adam and his wife ate of it, and their private parts became apparent to them, and they began to fasten over themselves from the leaves of Paradise. And Adam disobeyed his Lord and erred." (QS. Taa-Haa 20: Verse 121) "Then his Lord chose him and turned to him in forgiveness and guided [him]." (QS. Taa-Haa 20: Verse 122) "[Allah] said, Descend from Paradise - all, [your descendants] being enemies to one another. And if there should come to you guidance from Me - then whoever follows My guidance will neither go astray [in the world] nor suffer [in the Hereafter]." (QS. Taa-Haa 20: Verse 123) "And whoever turns away from My remembrance - indeed, he will have a depressed life, and We will gather him on the Day of Resurrection blind." (QS. Taa-Haa 20: Verse 124) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com My question is why did God sent prophets for what aim why didn't he send he just send Jesus straight... 1 Like |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Regene2020: 1:21am On Feb 04, 2021 |
haekymbahd:Firstly the passages you quoted i don't see how a God would forgive Adam yet we somehow are supposedly suffering from Adam already forgiven sin (this is why i go to the original story of the Bible) Descend from paradise (is allah saying there were human inhabitants before adam already in heaven so how is Adam first man) Your question God sent prophets as intersesors for the people, God couldn't talk to everyone, he had to use someone who conveys the message. In the Torah, Moses once asked God to talk to the Israelites himself for confirmation, they were the ones that said, next time let God talk to you directly because they couldn't beyond him (this was were the pressident started) Prophets i.e Moses could also make intersession and plead on the people behalf to God. So God has been long in the business of intersession using a link which Jesus didn't have issues with God didn't send Jesus once because it was a journey, Moses took them from Egypt and passed the law, Joshua led them to promise Land, David built the kingdom, Solomon the temple, etc |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by haekymbahd(m): 1:50am On Feb 04, 2021 |
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Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:18am On Feb 04, 2021 |
Apologies on her behalf Sir, we've resolved the issue, henceforth she will never comment on your thread again nor share anything with you. Please don't be offended by her harsh confrontation, God bless you! Myer: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Myer(m): 6:24am On Feb 04, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:You mean you have commanded her not to comment.lol Anyway she will be missed but certainly not you. Your false humility only works on those who don't know you. Good riddance. |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:24am On Feb 04, 2021 |
Please Shadeyinka if you want to chat with me further on the topic you can start a new thread and invite me to know my stand. It's like i've told you several times in the past that all the religions on this planet are worshiping the same God with the exception of JWs alone, we have a totally different God. So whatever anyone feels, think, say or do doesn't have any meaning to us, as long as you're aware that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization have a separate God we are fully satisfied! If you still want to chat with me on this just open another thread i'm not going to say a word in response to you here again, God bless you! shadeyinka: |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:26am On Feb 04, 2021 |
It's OK Sir! Myer: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 9:58am On Feb 04, 2021 |
Myer:.. |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by shadeyinka(m): 10:15am On Feb 04, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Yes we all know you worship the Jehovah witness organisation and I dont know of many groups who serve their organisation as you do. As for ALL religions worshiping the same god, that's an obvious deceptive speech from you! You have a right to worshipping the Jehovah's witness Organisation: but you have been warned. |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:46am On Feb 04, 2021 |
shadeyinka: I presume the bolded "we all know" means the collective agreement of all religionists following this thread! As for ALL religions worshiping the same god, that's an obvious deceptive speech from you! Myer: I think you should have come out openly to debunk the idea when OP asserted that Judaists, Muslims and Christians are worshiping the same God nah! You have a right to worshipping the Jehovah's witness Organisation: but you have been warned.Muslims are also warning you (despite the fact that you're worshiping the same God) that you're going to Hellfire for calling Jesus the son of God, leave each person to face his/her warrant after all there's lots and lots of contradictions in the beliefs of the churches and each sect keep saying "you have been warned" so if you and i can't worship the same way, it simply means i'll hold onto mine while you stick to yours {Revelations 22:11} no wahala! |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Image123(m): 11:36am On Feb 04, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: My friend is being promoted in this denomination. Thank You Jesus. i see he now comports himself more, we are happy for you. Don't worry elder. We're gentle. |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:14pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Thanks my friend, ire ákárí! So what do you have to say on topic? Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? JWs globally (represented by MaxInDHouse) say "NO" OP Mr Myer say "YES" So please leave my matter aside as it's causing a distraction, what's your own PERSONAL opinion on the topic? If NO or YES substantiate with the scriptures or anything you feel like using to buttress your point thanks! Image123: |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Image123(m): 12:40pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Myer(m): 12:46pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:l You said you won't comment on the thread yet you can't honor your own word. No wonder you can't honor God's words but keep twisting them. |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:39pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Oh you want me out anyway even when you can see that you and your followers are deceiving yourselves, i said i will not comment again on the topic of discussion after all that's what you can't bear, i never knew the truth can hurt you this much. Sebi you told my woman that you're saying the TRUTH, now defend that truth by focusing on it not running or shying away from the TRUTH. I have made myself clear that JW globally will say "NO" to your question, you have said "YES", so instead of your friends to leave the main topic and continue commenting hypocritically as if i'm the main topic, you're now asking for honour shey? Well i have honoured my own words by not saying anything further since it's hurting hunting your hypocrisy. Tell your friends to go straight to the point instead of hiding! Topic of discussion! Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God? JWs globally (represented by MaxInDHouse) - NO! Mr Myer (OP) - YES! Myer: |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 2:08pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Myer:Please sr i'm begging you in the name of your God. Erase my username in your thread! |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 2:19pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Myer:.. |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:27pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by shadeyinka(m): 2:29pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:And I told Myre that his statement was untrue with facts to back it up. The issue is you, who have replaced the true God with the Jehovahs witness organisation: continue! The truth doesn't have imitation, and time always tell! |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:05pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Each person has his or her own God! Nevermind about my own God just answer the question and explain, whatever i call my God is my problem not yours, after all it's not a compulsion that i worship the same God with you! shadeyinka: |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by mhmsadyq(m): 4:03pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
shadeyinka: No contradiction. I only answered you with what you want to hear. I am sure you know that even idol worshippers believe in a supreme being (God) up there, greater than the objects they worship. The objects serve as intercessors between the worshippers and the supreme being. This is also the practice in Christianity. Christians largely worship God through Jesus (in Jesus name). While some worship Jesus in place of God. Jesus is like a deity that intercedes between then and the Supreme God. In the Yoruba pantheon or religion, Who is Olorun or Olodumare or Olofin-Orun? Is there a deity that represents Olorun? What is the name of the Supreme being (God) in Yoruba language today? Think! The Supreme Being, Allah SWT was known, even before the coming of the Prophet SAW. These are what the Prophet of Islam came to abolish, the intercession of deities between man and God. |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Myer(m): 4:05pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
AkinwaleJJ: Done. It was almost a pleasure having you here. |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 4:13pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Thank you! Myer: 1 Like |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by shadeyinka(m): 4:17pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
mhmsadyq:I think you should know that there is a difference between a TITLE and a NAME! OBA (king) is a title while Lamidi Adeyemi is a name PRESIDENT is a title while Muhammadu Buhari or Joe Biden are names God, Eloha, Allah, Olorun etc is the TITLE for the CREATOR: but His name is YHWH! As one one claims that the God of Moses, Zachariah, Mary etc is ALSO your own God, what name other than his TITLE or ATTRIBUTE is He Called? I am sure you know that the Creator has thousands of TITLES |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by mhmsadyq(m): 5:44pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
shadeyinka: I I think you just want to disagree by all mean. But no wahala! The President of Nigeria is the title of Buhari. Buhari is the name of the President of Nigeria Both statements address one person; Buhari. YHWH is the name of God. God is the title of YHWH. I can as well say YHWH and all other names use to address God are TITLES. HIS name is ALLAH SWT! Source? The Glorious Qur'an. But Allah also addresses himself with several other names and you can call him by any of those names. [17:110] Al-’Isrā-الْإِسْرَاء/بَنِيْ إِسْرَآءِيْل "قُلِ ادۡعُوا اللّٰہَ اَوِ ادۡعُوا الرَّحۡمٰنَ ؕ اَیًّامَّا تَدۡعُوۡا فَلَہُ الۡاَسۡمَآءُ الۡحُسۡنٰی ۚ وَ لَا تَجۡہَرۡ بِصَلَاتِکَ وَ لَا تُخَافِتۡ بِہَا وَ ابۡتَغِ بَیۡنَ ذٰلِکَ سَبِیۡلًا ﴿۱۱۰﴾ Say: ‘Call on Allah or call on al-Rahman (the Most Compassionate), by whatever Name you invoke Him, (all) the Best Names are His.. YHWH is what language? Does it have a meaning? Was there no name for YHWH before YHWH became known? What name do you address YHWH in: English Yoruba 1 Like |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Myer(m): 5:51pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
mhmsadyq: Good point. So hace you ever prayed to Allah since it means God? Clearly you do not pray to YHWH but to God. So why can't you pray to Allah? Or because the word is mostly attributed to Muslims you can't? |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by Myer(m): 5:52pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Good point. So hace you ever prayed to Allah since it means God? Clearly you do not pray to YHWH but to God. So why can't you pray to Allah? Or because the word is mostly attributed to Muslims you can't? 1 Like |
Re: Do Christians And Muslims Worship The Same God? by shadeyinka(m): 10:37pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
mhmsadyq:God cannot be the name of God! Allah (the god/God) cannot be the name of God! Eloah (the god/God) cannot be the name of God! Only God can tell man His Name! The best man can do is to address God by His titles Exo 6:2-3: "And God spoke to Moses, and said to him, I am the LORD: And I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them." If the nature and Character to the God we talk about is the same, then one might say: The name and the title are synonymous. Unfortunately, in this case Not! In a case where impassonation is suspected, the name and the title cannot be synonymous. Jubril El-Sudan and Muhammadu Buhari may be called president of Nigeria, BUT they aren't the same person. Whereas Yahweh disciplines His chosen ones for committing sin, Allah seem to condone the sin of his special apostle. Whereas Yahweh have loved Israel with an everlasting love Jer 31:3: Allah assures that Muslims will kill the Jews with rocks even betraying them by the permission of Allah If Allah of Muslims is the same of the YHWH of Jews, why then must Jews PAY the Jizyah or convert to Islam to be totally free? mhmsadyq:YHWH is not a Language but the pronunciation of the Name of the Creator! YHWH was referred to by several of His descriptive Titles Yahweh is NOT different in Yoruba, Hausa, English, Hebrew or even Arabic languages. |
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