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MaxInDHouse:
There is this big difference between accurate and inaccurate.
The highlighted shows you need ACCURATE knowledge before you can effectively inculcate in the minds of your listeners what you're struggling to establish.
and the word was "WITH" God
Sorry your knowledge about this is INACCURATE Sir!

Heb 1:5-6,8:
"For to which of the angels said he at any time, You are my Son, this day have I begotten you? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he brings in the first-begotten into the world, he said, And let all the angels of God worship him. … But to the Son he said, Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom."

Meaning!

shadeyinka2:
Heb 1:5-6,8:
"For to which of the angels said he at any time, You are my Son, this day have I begotten you? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he brings in the first-begotten into the world, he said, And let all the angels of God worship him. … But to the Son he said, Your throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom."

MaxInDHouse:
Meaning!

How could Jesus have been Angel Michael!

There is just one angel referred to as archangel (chief angel) in the Bible, all creatures in heaven are sons to the only true God, and Jesus is known as the first born it's logical to conclude that he must be that one and only archangel Michael!

So how could Jesus have been the only true God when he himself said "the only true God SENT Jesus" John 3:16, 17:3

shadeyinka2:
How could Jesus have been Angel Michael!

MaxInDHouse:
There is just one angel referred to as archangel (chief angel) in the Bible, all creatures in heaven are sons to the only true God, and Jesus is known as the first born it's logical to conclude that he must be that one and only archangel Michael!

So how could Jesus have been the only true God when he himself said "the only true God SENT Jesus" John 3:16, 17:3

As if God cannot send Himself on errands.
As if God cannot speak to Himself.

But, that's not the point: the point is, if Jesus is NOT an angel according to the scripture, how could he be an archangel?

shadeyinka2:
As if God cannot send Himself on errands.
As if God cannot speak to Himself.

But, that's not the point: the point is, if Jesus is NOT an angel according to the scripture, how could he be an archangel?

Bros, why you dey DECEIVE yourself?
Isaiah 6:8 Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” And I said: “Here I am! Send me!”

Isaiah 6:8 is missing in your Bible?
Is Isaiah among the "us"?

1 Thess 4:16 , John 5:26-28, whose voice will resurrect the dead ?

2 Thess1:7-9, Matthew 25:31, Hebrew 1:4-5, Daniel 10:13 who leads other sons of God ?
Wesley Commentary & Geneva Bible Commentary na your 3 idol spirits devotees brethren write am

Janosky:
Bros, why you dey DECEIVE yourself?

So you mean Jesus is an angel?

It always a miraculous baffle how JWickedness often stand on one leg to fight and discredit and misinterpret dozens of legs. Doctrine is not built on one leg, it is an ultimate set up for failure. They and many others need to learn this basic else they continue to confuse themselves to defend elder Russell.

shadeyinka2:
So you mean Jesus is an angel?

Bros, what is the meaning of 'angel'?
Go figure it out, no be rocket science

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It always a miraculous baffle how JWickedness often stand on one leg to fight and discredit and misinterpret dozens of legs. Doctrine is not built on one leg, it is an ultimate set up for failure. They and many others need to learn this basic else they continue to confuse themselves to defend elder Russell.

GIBBERISH

Janosky:
GIBBERISH

Sit down and meditate on it. It may be the best decision you made in the last 10 years.

Janosky:
Bros, what is the meaning of 'angel'?
Go figure it out, no be rocket science

So you mean Jesus is angel Michael?

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Sit down and meditate on it. It may be the best decision you made in the last 10 years.

Bros, continue DECEIVING yourself and upload GIBBERISH

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shadeyinka2:
So you mean Jesus is angel Michael?

Is Daniel 10:13, 2 Thess1:7-9, Matthew 25:31, Hebrew 1:4-5 missing in your Bible ?
Who leads other sons of God in your Bible ?
Revelation 12:7,9 & 1 John 3:8 who fulfilled the prophetic decree in Genesis 3:15 ?

Your 3 idol spirits devotees brethren ,Wesley Notes , Geneva Bible Commentary & Trapp's Commentary on Daniel 10:13 (plus others)

Bros, shine your eyes.

shadeyinka2:
As if God cannot send Himself on errands.
As if God cannot speak to Himself.

God cannot lie {Titus 1:2} he said "this is my son (not myself) whom i have approved, listen to him (not listen to me)" {Matthew 17:5} that i believe anyday anytime!

But, that's not the point: the point is, if Jesus is NOT an angel according to the scripture, how could he be an archangel?

"Angel" means "Messenger" and according to the scriptures Jesus is a messenger SENT by the one and only true God! John 17:3
The Hebrew 1:5 that you're quoting out of context is telling you that God never sent any other angel to be the role model or mediator so don't rely on what any angel tell you, believe in the teachings of Jesus who lived the life of a role model in the midst of humans. But the fact still remains that Jesus was nothing other than an angel (messenger) before God transformed him into an embryo in the womb of Mary!

Janosky:
Bros, why you dey DECEIVE yourself?
Isaiah 6:8 Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” And I said: “Here I am! Send me!”

Isaiah 6:8 is missing in your Bible?
Is Isaiah among the "us"?

1 Thess 4:16 , John 5:26-28, whose voice will resurrect the dead ?

2 Thess1:7-9, Matthew 25:31, Hebrew 1:4-5, Daniel 10:13 who leads other sons of God ?
Wesley Commentary & Geneva Bible Commentary na your 3 idol spirits devotees brethren write am

Isa 9:6:
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

MaxInDHouse:
God cannot lie {Titus 1:2} he said "this is my son (not myself) whom i have approved, listen to him (not listen to me)" {Matthew 17:5} that i believe anyday anytime!


"Angel" means "Messenger" and according to the scriptures Jesus is a messenger SENT by the one and only true God! John 17:3
The Hebrew 1:5 that you're quoting out of context is telling you that God never sent any other angel to be the role model or mediator so don't rely on what any angel tell you, believe in the teachings of Jesus who lived the life of a role model in the midst of humans. But the fact still remains that Jesus was nothing other than an angel (messenger) before God transformed him into an embryo in the womb of Mary!

Heb 1:8:
"But God says about the Son, “Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom."

Ps 45:6:
"Your throne, O God, is forever and ever: A scepter of equity is the scepter of your kingdom."

Janosky:
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Is Daniel 10:13, 2 Thess1:7-9, Matthew 25:31, Hebrew 1:4-5 missing in your Bible ?
Who leads other sons of God in your Bible ?
Revelation 12:7,9 & 1 John 3:8 who fulfilled the prophetic decree in Genesis 3:15 ?

Your 3 idol spirits devotees brethren ,Wesley Notes , Geneva Bible Commentary & Trapp's Commentary on Daniel 10:13 (plus others)

Bros, shine your eyes.

Heb 1:13-14:
"But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstoo? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?"

Mar 12:36-37:
"For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit you on my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool. David therefore himself calls him Lord; and from where is he then his son? And the common people heard him gladly."

These are the problems caused by incompetent translators!
So you will quote but fail to substantiate cause the incompetence of those translators have led you astray!

shadeyinka2:
Heb 1:8:
"But God says about the Son, “Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom."

Ps 45:6:
"Your throne, O God, is forever and ever: A scepter of equity is the scepter of your kingdom."

Check a clear and concise translation below!

MaxInDHouse:
There is this big difference between accurate and inaccurate.
The highlighted shows you need ACCURATE knowledge before you can effectively inculcate in the minds of your listeners what you're struggling to establish.
and the word was "WITH" God
Sorry your knowledge about this is INACCURATE Sir!

MaxInDHouse:
These are the problems caused by incompetent translators!
So you will quote but fail to substantiate cause the incompetence of those translators have led you astray!




Check a clear and concise translation below!

Isa 9:6-7:
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from now on even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this."

MaxInDHouse:
These are the problems caused by incompetent translators!
So you will quote but fail to substantiate cause the incompetence of those translators have led you astray!




Check a clear and concise translation below!

The perfect translation says God is Christ's throne.

Acts 12:21:
"And on a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat on his throne, and made an oration to them."

The throne is less than he who sits on it: isn't it?

Rev 4:9:
"And when those beasts give glory and honor and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who lives for ever and ever,"

Rev 4:10:
"The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that lives for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,"

Who is that sitting on God,?

It makes perfect sense doesn't it!?

All you need is ASK for the explanation behind what is written in our book (Bible) so as to know how to apply it practically otherwise you will continue to see God as a nuisance that cannot be understood! If that's what you want then how are you going to convince a sincere and honest hearted person (who is not selfishly after some worthless favour) to believe (trust) in the words of your God that you yourself can't substantiate?

Look i'm not disputing that you're a worshiper of a God but definitely not my own God!

So if you want to condemn me for that it's OK but i'll never agree with you that you and i are actually worshiping the same God, because i can explain everything about my God whereas yours is a MYSTERY!

shadeyinka:
The perfect translation says God is Christ's throne.
Who is that sitting on God,?
It makes perfect sense doesn't it!?

MaxInDHouse:
All you need is ASK for the explanation behind what is written in our book (Bible) so as to know how to apply it practically otherwise you will continue to see God as a nuisance that cannot be understood! If that's what you want then how are you going to convince a sincere and honest hearted person (who is not selfishly after some worthless favour) to believe (trust) in the words of your God that you yourself can't substantiate?

Look i'm not disputing that you're a worshiper of a God but definitely not my own God!

So if you want to condemn me for that it's OK but i'll never agree with you that you and i are actually worshiping the same God, because i can explain everything about my God whereas yours is a MYSTERY!

English language is a common language.
The best translations don't need dubious EXPLANATIONS for simple comprehension!

Try to make the translation that's not dubious work out something BENEFITIAL in your midst Sir! Isaiah 48:17-18

shadeyinka:
English language is a common language.
The best translations don't need dubious EXPLANATIONS for simple comprehension!

MaxInDHouse:
Try to make the translation that's not dubious work out something BENEFITIAL in your midst Sir! Isaiah 48:17-18

2Tim 2:19:
"Nevertheless the foundation of God stands sure, having this seal, The Lord knows them that are his. And, Let every one that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity."

Iniquity
Means you're not open to equity, so if you don't have any particular group along with which you're subjected to the same line of thought in what way can your equity be made manifest? 1Timothy 4:15-16

shadeyinka:
2Tim 2:19:
"Nevertheless the foundation of God stands sure, having this seal, The Lord knows them that are his. And, Let every one that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity."

MaxInDHouse:
Iniquity
Means you're not open to equity, so if you don't have any particular group along with which you're subjected to the same line of thought in what way can your equity be made manifest? 1Timothy 4:15-16

We know that your God is the "Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses". They are infallible and are final authority concerning what knowledge and faith you hold on to.

Ehin ni d'oloku Ada!

I belong to Christ Jesus and not to any earthy organisation. Jesus said:
Mat 16:18:
"And I say also to you, That you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

But your church is built by men in the "Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses organisation".


It's a free world: do what you will!

Ehin ni d'oloku Ada!

You're just beating about the bush aimlessly, i'm not worshiping the same God with you that's all.

No matter what you call my God just know that he is able to gather us under one umbrella and we all have the same line of thought! Micah 4:1-3; John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10

My own Jesus has successfully impressed in the heart of almost 9,000,000 of his glory family how to erase Racism and Politics from their midst!

So call my God anything you like just know that he differs from yours, PERIOD!

shadeyinka:
We know that your God is the "Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses". They are infallible and are final authority concerning what knowledge and faith you hold on to.

Ehin ni d'oloku Ada!

I belong to Christ Jesus and not to any earthy organisation. Jesus said:
Mat 16:18:
"And I say also to you, That you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

But your church is built by men in the "Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses organisation".


It's a free world: do what you will!

Ehin ni d'oloku Ada!

MaxInDHouse:
You're just beating about the bush aimlessly, i'm not worshiping the same God with you that's all.

No matter what you call my God just know that he is able to gather us under one umbrella and we all have the same line of thought! Micah 4:1-3; John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10

My own Jesus has successfully impressed in the heart of almost 9,000,000 of his glory family how to erase Racism and Politics from their midst!

So call my God anything you like just know that he differs from yours, PERIOD!

When una go pass this 9million na. People no collect awake or wetin? Make i go ask RCC and RCCG how many their God don gather.

Catholics 1.2billion people drawn by their God.
Baptist 40million people drawn by their God.
RCCG 5million people drawn by their God.
Make i no carry muslin and hindu gods come. JWICKEDNESS think say na only their papa backyard farm dey this world. Oshisko.

Janosky:
Bros, why you dey DECEIVE yourself?

What about you? You're destroying your soul...

Isaiah 6:8 Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” And I said: “Here I am! Send me!”

Isaiah 6:8 is missing in your Bible?
Is Isaiah among the "us"?

If you don't lack basic English, you'd have seen this without exposing your ignorance.

Lemme break it down for you because I know, you're a toddler.

The writer: speaks in first person pronoun "I" i.e "Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying..."

The writer switches to first person pronoun which means Jehovah is the ONE SPEAKING NOW.

Jehovah: Who shall I (Jehovah) send and who will go for US (Jehovah)?

This is a question, that needs answer!

And guess who answered it! The same Jehovah Himself because Jehovah continues to speak in the same first person pronoun.

"And I said, here I am! Send me"

If the entity speaking is totally different from the speaker then it will be a grammatical gaganrium for the speaker to continue speaking in first person pronoun.

[s]1 Thess 4:16 , John 5:26-28, whose voice will resurrect the dead ?

2 Thess1:7-9, Matthew 25:31, Hebrew 1:4-5, Daniel 10:13 who leads other sons of God ?[/s]

Wesley Commentary & Geneva Bible Commentary na your 3 idol spirits devotees brethren write am

Hypocrite!

Do you agree with the same Wesley commentary & Geneva Bible Commentary on John 1:1, Heb 1, John 1:3, Rev 3:14?

Do you think Satan is credible in accounting?
What do you think he wants to do with hostages who are doomed like himself?

Sorry my friend it's the light that's credible when talking about accountability {Mark 14:21-22} because that's what all eyes will see where it's kept on the top {Matthew 5:14-16) each sheep count before the owner JEHOVAH Luke 12:7, 15:4-7

When God's word talked about multitude that no man could count {Revelations 7:9} this refers to millions diligently studying the Bible with us from a pure heart but are not yet baptized, how can we number them? But as for baptized souls, God's Organization keeps the account {Act 2:41, 4:4} so don't be surprised!

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When una go pass this 9million na. People no collect awake or wetin? Make i go ask RCC and RCCG how many their God don gather.