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Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:00pm On Feb 07, 2021
To those on the inside we speak in plain terms but to those on the outside we speak in PARABLES {Matthew 13:10-11} So it's left for those who has the inner ears! Matthew 13:43 smiley

Image123:
So you are crooked to people not in your denomination?
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:08pm On Feb 07, 2021
So far you know JW's God differs from yours, we are OK! wink


shadeyinka:
You didn't hear me: they came to sell their product. They didn't come to preach. I just notice how sad and distant the looked. This propelled me to preach the gospel to them. It was in this cause I discovered that they were of your kind. They ran off as darkness pursued by the light.
It's easy to be an e-warrior for JW organisation under a pseudo-name.
The truth:
You reek of false light!
2Cor 11:14-15:
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by shadeyinka(op): 9:13pm On Feb 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
So far you know JW's God differs from yours, we are OK! wink
I concur with that!

You serve the Jehovah with the synonym "Governing Body the Jehovah's witness organisation" which is not known by either Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. Your organisation isn't known by any of the apostles or the disciples of Christ everywhere in the world.


I rest my case!
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:17pm On Feb 07, 2021
At least our God differs from yours shey?

We are good Sir! wink


shadeyinka:
I concur with that!
You serve the Jehovah with the synonym "Governing Body the Jehovah's witness organisation" which is not known by either Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. Your organisation isn't known by any of the apostles or the disciples of Christ everywhere in the world.
I rest my case!
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by shadeyinka(op): 9:23pm On Feb 07, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
At least our God differs from yours shey?

We are good Sir! wink
shadeyinka:
I concur with that!

You serve the Jehovah with the synonym "Governing Body the Jehovah's witness organisation" which is not known by either Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. Your organisation isn't known by any of the apostles or the disciples of Christ everywhere in the world.


I rest my case!
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky:
shadeyinka:
I concur with that!

You serve the Jehovah with the synonym "Governing Body the Jehovah's witness organisation" which is not known by either Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. Your organisation isn't known by any of the apostles or the disciples of Christ everywhere in the world.


I rest my case!
Bros, the last time you rest your case, your own Jesus is the true God, not the Jesus of John17:3 and John 20:17.

Anytime you rest your case na FALSEHOOD

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Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 10:35pm On Feb 07, 2021
Image123:
Oh, you later edited this. Who passed it to you na? i understand the reputation for inability to think as an individual. What is all this theatrics and drama. The person that dictated this to you should be aware of the several verses where Jesus is called and known as the Son of God, even the evil spirits know it. The same book of Acts clearly call Him the Son of God. So this futile attempt to mesmerize me instead of answer my question is for the gullible. Answer the question clearly and directly. [/b]Explain, don't give me jokes. At least, you pride yourselves as the only ones that know God and His Word.
Who's His mother in Heaven then? [b]How is He Son and servant together? Is your son or daughter your servant?
Na question i ask oh, no come with insult or joke
I should ask you:
Does Almighty God have wife in heaven?
Which chapter/verse did you read in your Bible that Jesus have a mother in heaven?


* Servant
Παῖδα (Paida)
Noun - Accusative Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 3816: Perhaps from paio; a boy, or, a girl, and a child; specially, a slave or servant."

Bros, what is mesmerizing about the meaning of Strong's Greek 3816 at Acts 3:13 ?


How does that info I gave you to research, now translate to "inability to think"?

Bros, please quote Matthew 12:15-18 on this thread.. use your church mind do the needful....
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Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Image123(m): 12:02am On Feb 08, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
To those on the inside we speak in plain terms but to those on the outside we speak in PARABLES {Matthew 13:10-11} So it's left for those who has the inner ears! Matthew 13:43 smiley
This is convenient con. Anyone can claim that he is speaking mystery once he's not making sense. Answering yes or no to a question is not speaking in mystery elder clown. Your cohort said made a comparison about Adam and Jesus's mother, so i asked him if Adam was in Heaven. You both saw your folly and refused to give a humble and direct answer. Now you claim to be speaking mystery, you would soon speak confusion not only mystery. Joker man.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Image123(m): 12:35am On Feb 08, 2021
Janosky:
I should ask you:
Does Almighty God have wife in heaven?
Which chapter/verse did you read in your Bible that Jesus have a mother in heaven?


* Servant
Παῖδα (Paida)
Noun - Accusative Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 3816: Perhaps from paio; a boy, or, a girl, and a child; specially, a slave or servant."

Bros, what is mesmerizing about the meaning of Strong's Greek 3816 at Acts 3:13 ?


How does that info I gave you to research, now translate to "inability to think"?

Bros, please quote Matthew 12:15-18 on this thread.. use your church mind do the needful....
grin cheesy grin cheesy
"
Here's the question again, don't be distracted ehn.
Is Adam in Heaven? Who is Jesus' mother in Heaven then? How is He Son and servant together? Is your son or daughter your servant?

Since you seem fazed as to why i ask. Lemme help you again. You said that Jesus is Son in Heaven too. If you understand that well, then you can explain who His mother is in Heaven. Your reference to Adam begat my asking where Adam is, to which you and your cohort crookedly replied that Adam is not in Heaven. Good, so don't compare apples and tomatoes fa.
After that, you have these personal questions to answer. Your answer should enable you think instead of copy&paste. Here again.
2. How is Jesus Son and servant together?
3. Is your son or daughter(if you have children) your servant?

Every normal/average Christian denomination knows God as many things or "faces". Same way they know Jesus Christ as many things or "faces". It is not news that God is Elohim or Adonai or Jehovah or Father and many thousand things we call Him. It is Jwickedness that have a problem with that, you believe He is only Jehovah nothing else really.
Same way it is not news that Jesus is Son or Servant or God or King or Door or Shepherd or Bishop or Savior or Branch and many thousand things we call Him. It is still Jwickedness that have problem with that, you believe He is servant not God or really Son in the sense. You quoting 20 passages that He is servant is irrelevant to the discussion. We know that and teach it too. It's like me quoting many passages that Jesus is Light. That's basic knowledge to me so quit missing the point. Your shallow attempt to mesmerize was very clear. Acts 3v13 is translated as servant in your new world translation. It is translated servant also in many other Bible versions. So it was pointless playing to the gallery telling me about Greek and son and servant. You supposed i don't know this and will probably use a KJV and be wowed in some way that you knew "this revelation that Jesus is a servant but they are selling Him as a Son to me". But thank God for superior Jwickedness Bible Study, they open my eyes to see Jesus is servant. So when i call you guys clowns, take it seriously you are.
No need continued attempt to prove that Jesus is Servant, we know. The point is that He is not only servant. Open your eyes and see that. Answer the question now if you can. i hope you are humble enough to answer, your elders might command you instead to put your tail in between and run along. Don't be a slave, pun not intended.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:52am On Feb 08, 2021
So far you agree that our God differs from yours it's enough for us Sir! smiley


Image123:
This is convenient con. Anyone can claim that he is speaking mystery once he's not making sense. Answering yes or no to a question is not speaking in mystery elder clown. Your cohort said made a comparison about Adam and Jesus's mother, so i asked him if Adam was in Heaven. You both saw your folly and refused to give a humble and direct answer. Now you claim to be speaking mystery, you would soon speak confusion not only mystery. Joker man.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Image123(m): 9:39am On Feb 08, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
So far you agree that our God differs from yours it's enough for us Sir! smiley
You are an idolater from the beginning, are you just knowing? Who do you suppose was trying to convince you that Jwickedness serves the Only wise God?
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:16am On Feb 08, 2021
You can call our God and we ourselves anything you feel, so far you know that our God is different from yours we are OK! John 15:19, 17:16 smiley


Image123:
You are an idolater from the beginning, are you just knowing? Who do you suppose was trying to convince you that Jwickedness serves the Only wise God?
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by shadeyinka(op): 1:32pm On Feb 08, 2021
Janosky:
Bros, the last time you rest your case, your own Jesus is the true God, not the Jesus of John17:3 and John 20:17.

Anytime you rest your case na FALSEHOOD

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Do you concur that Jesus is a false god?
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:47pm On Feb 08, 2021
Do you think Jesus lied when he said the only true God SENT him? John 17:3 undecided

shadeyinka:
Do you concur that Jesus is a false god?
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by DappaD:
shadeyinka:
Do you concur that Jesus is a false lesser god?
I think you’re getting this wrong. A God becomes false when he/it requires worship/devotion that doesn’t belong to him/it. For this reason, Satan can be aptly regarded as a false God.
Matthew 4:9, 2Corinthians 4:4

Jehovah is the true God who requires exclusive devotion[Exodus 34:14, Deuteronomy 4:24,39; Nahum 1:2] because he deserves the worship which so rightly belongs to him. Revelation 4:11

Faithful humans and angels have been called lesser Gods. Exodus 7:1, Psalm 8:5, John 10:34-35
Yet not one of them demanded worship.
Acts 10:26, 2Peter 2:11, Revelation 19:10

Even Jesus—a lesser God—never demanded worship from anybody. Instead he directly all forms of worship to the true God who deserves it.
Matthew 6:9, John 4:23-24

So how can Jesus be a false God when he never asked for anyone to worship him?
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by shadeyinka(op): 2:31pm On Feb 08, 2021
DappaD:
I think you’re getting this wrong. A God becomes false when he/it requires worship/devotion that doesn’t belong to him/it. For this reason, Satan can be aptly regarded as a false God.
Matthew 4:9, 2Corinthians 4:4

Jehovah is the true God who requires exclusive devotion[Exodus 34:14, Deuteronomy 4:24,39; Nahum 1:2] because he deserves the worship which so rightly belongs to him. Revelation 4:11

Faithful humans and angels have been called lesser Gods. Exodus 7:1, Psalm 8:5, John 10:34-35
Yet not one of them demanded worship.
Acts 10:26, 2Peter 2:11, Revelation 19:10

Even Jesus—a lesser God—never demanded worship from anybody. Instead he directly all forms of worship to the true God who deserves it.
Matthew 6:9, John 4:23-24

So how can Jesus be a false God when he never asked for anyone to worship him?
But isn't it logical that Jesus could be either a true God or a false God. Can there be a middle ground?
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by shadeyinka(op): 2:35pm On Feb 08, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Do you think Jesus lied when he said the only true God SENT him? John 17:3 undecided
The issue is is Jesus a false God?
For if Jesus is NOT a false God, then He must have sent Himself.

This you cannot understand.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:45pm On Feb 08, 2021
All these arguments means nothing to Shadeyinka, he knew quite alright that the argument is worthless, pointless and meaningless. He is just trying to say "since you will not complement my faith i too will always pitch my tent against yours" even in his ECWA Church he knows there will be a disagreement on this issue. But he's just holding up to this as an excuse to say JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are also wrong in some aspect but in the church he is attending this issue will also lead to contradictions there.
Ordinarily telling him our God differs is enough headache for him, because he can't boldly say he is worshiping the same God even with his ECWA Church, since he doesn't subscribe to all the doctrines of the church unlike JWs who are ONE completely in the same line of thought! smiley



DappaD:
I think you’re getting this wrong. A God becomes false when he/it requires worship/devotion that doesn’t belong to him/it. For this reason, Satan can be aptly regarded as a false God.
Matthew 4:9, 2Corinthians 4:4

Jehovah is the true God who requires exclusive devotion[Exodus 34:14, Deuteronomy 4:24,39; Nahum 1:2] because he deserves the worship which so rightly belongs to him. Revelation 4:11

Faithful humans and angels have been called lesser Gods. Exodus 7:1, Psalm 8:5, John 10:34-35
Yet not one of them demanded worship.
Acts 10:26, 2Peter 2:11, Revelation 19:10

Even Jesus—a lesser God—never demanded worship from anybody. Instead he directly all forms of worship to the true God who deserves it.
Matthew 6:9, John 4:23-24

So how can Jesus be a false God when he never asked for anyone to worship him?
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:47pm On Feb 08, 2021
Go and convince your church ECWA on this logic of yours first after all charity begins at home! smiley


shadeyinka:
The issue is is Jesus a false God?
For if Jesus is NOT a false God, then He must have sent Himself.
This you cannot understand.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by shadeyinka(op): 2:59pm On Feb 08, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Go and convince your church ECWA on this logic of yours first after all charity begins at home! smiley
I dont have to convince anyone of any thing.
It is you who are demonized by the same demon that should seek for deliverance.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 3:01pm On Feb 08, 2021
shadeyinka:
I dont have to convince anyone of any thing.
It is you who are demonized by the same demon that should seek for deliverance.
GIBBERISH grin cheesy
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by shadeyinka(op): 3:03pm On Feb 08, 2021
Janosky:
GIBBERISH grin cheesy
Demonized creatures masquerading as light bearers!
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:06pm On Feb 08, 2021
So you're saying you can continue fellowshipping with ECWA members who disagree with this your idea but it's JWs that must agree with you shey? cheesy
My friend, STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF! cheesy


shadeyinka:
I dont have to convince anyone of any thing.
It is you who are demonized by the same demon that should seek for deliverance.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 3:11pm On Feb 08, 2021
shadeyinka:
The issue is is Jesus a false God?
For if Jesus is NOT a false God, then He must have sent Himself.

This you cannot understand.
Exodus 18:11 & John 20:21, Bros, Your Bible says It's a non issue. No DECEIVE yourself.
John 20:21
"Peace be to you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you."

Exodus 18:11
"Now I know that Yahweh is greater than all gods
because of the thing in which they dealt arrogantly against them."

* John 14:28," the Father is greater than I am".

* John 20:17, 17:3 Jesus told you "the only true God and Father sent me (Jesus)."
The Bros says his only true God, Jesus Christ has a Father, Yahweh greater than Jesus grin grin grin grin
RECEIVE Peace of John 20:21 & RECEIVE SENSE cheesy grin
Bros, continue DECEIVING yourself grin

Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 3:15pm On Feb 08, 2021
shadeyinka:
Demonized creatures masquerading as light bearers!
LYING dullard, What is demonized about John 14:28, 20:17 & 17:3 ?
grin cheesy grin grin cheesy
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 3:22pm On Feb 08, 2021
shadeyinka:
But isn't it logical that Jesus could be either a true God or a false God. Can there be a middle ground?
John 20:21 and John 14:28, Jesus says it's your claim GIBBERISH.
Exodus 18:11 confirmento grin
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:24pm On Feb 08, 2021
If this is not coming from their mouths definitely the Bible must have been a scam, but now that it's happening life certainly certainly everything written in that book really happened to Jesus and his true followers! Matthew 5:11-12, 10:22-25 huh



Janosky:
LYING dullard, What is demonized about John 14:28, 20:17 & 17:3 ?
grin cheesy grin grin cheesy
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Image123(m): 3:24pm On Feb 08, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
You can call our God and we ourselves anything you feel, so far you know that our God is different from yours we are OK! John 15:19, 17:16 smiley
You see why they say your denomination is your god? i referred to you and your organization but you claim that i called your God. You and your cohort met your checkmate and you resorted to pity party. Your cohort has been shackled AWOL since. Very clear to everyone outside your little hall the overbearing influence. Call in your supervisor to handle things properly or stay on the roadside selling Awake. The internet is not the ideal place for this misorganisation.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:27pm On Feb 08, 2021
The highlighted is a welcome development so far you know that our God differs from yours we are OK! wink


Image123:
You see why they say your denomination is your god? i referred to you and your organization but you claim that i called your God. You and your cohort met your checkmate and you resorted to pity party. Your cohort has been shackled AWOL since. Very clear to everyone outside your little hall the overbearing influence. Call in your supervisor to handle things properly or stay on the roadside selling Awake. The internet is not the ideal place for this misorganisation.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 3:33pm On Feb 08, 2021
Image123:
Here's the question again, don't be distracted ehn.
Is Adam in Heaven? Who is Jesus' mother in Heaven then? How is He Son and servant together? Is your son or daughter your servant?

Since you seem fazed as to why i ask. Lemme help you again. You said that Jesus is Son in Heaven too. If you understand that well, then you can explain who His mother is in Heaven. Your reference to Adam begat my asking where Adam is, to which you and your cohort crookedly replied that Adam is not in Heaven. Good, so don't compare apples and tomatoes fa.
After that, you have these personal questions to answer. Your answer should enable you think instead of copy&paste. Here again.
2. How is Jesus Son and servant together?
3. Is your son or daughter(if you have children) your servant?

Every normal/average Christian denomination knows God as many things or "faces". Same way they know Jesus Christ as many things or "faces". It is not news that God is Elohim or Adonai or Jehovah or Father and many thousand things we call Him. It is Jwickedness that have a problem with that, you believe He is only Jehovah nothing else really.
Same way it is not news that Jesus is Son or Servant or God or King or Door or Shepherd or Bishop or Savior or Branch and many thousand things we call Him. It is still Jwickedness that have problem with that, you believe He is servant not God or really Son in the sense. You quoting 20 passages that He is servant is irrelevant to the discussion. We know that and teach it too. It's like me quoting many passages that Jesus is Light. That's basic knowledge to me so quit missing the point. Your shallow attempt to mesmerize was very clear. Acts 3v13 is translated as servant in your new world translation. It is translated servant also in many other Bible versions. So it was pointless playing to the gallery telling me about Greek and son and servant. You supposed i don't know this and will probably use a KJV and be wowed in some way that you knew "this revelation that Jesus is a servant but they are selling Him as a Son to me". But thank God for superior Jwickedness Bible Study, they open my eyes to see Jesus is servant. So when i call you guys clowns, take it seriously you are.
No need continued attempt to prove that Jesus is Servant, we know. The point is that He is not only servant. Open your eyes and see that. Answer the question now if you can. i hope you are humble enough to answer, your elders might command you instead to put your tail in between and run along. Don't be a slave, pun not intended.
You confirmed Jesus Christ is a servant and son of his God.
Bros, what else is there to answer again?
I don't know why JWs responses in your Bible gives you sifia pains and vexation grin grin
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Image123(m): 3:33pm On Feb 08, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is a welcome development so far you know that our God differs from yours we are OK! wink
Obviously you are far from okay the way you keep repeating it. What do i know anyway than Bible. cheesy cheesy
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:35pm On Feb 08, 2021
There is no need arguing with you after all you knew our God differs from yours! wink

Image123:
Obviously you are far from okay the way you keep repeating it. What do i know anyway than Bible. cheesy cheesy
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