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andrewbaba44:
So if a player delivers in his first game and few others same he should always be invited even if someone else is better than him ?

You no talk that part well chief

Very myopic and sad mentality. That's why they can perform well in 1 game and be nonchalant yet they will keep getting called up.

Nomyth:
But can't this club just buy another club's slot from the NPFL?

Or is it no longer allowed?

Yes they can and they actually missed out on the opportunity when Kada city sold out to Warri Wolves

How has Nwakaeme been better than any of our starting wingers in the GWG? Explain.

Also explain how his stats in turkey will easily translate to anything better than what we have now in the NT. I am waiting.

Also, point out at any period where Nwakaeme was overly better than any one of Kalu, Chukwueze, Simon, or even Musa with respect to the NT. I dey wait for that one too.

andrewbaba44:
So if a player delivers in his first game and few others same he should always be invited even if someone else is better than him ?

You no talk that part well chief

Tinneh:
I've been following destiny for a while now
He started at kogi United before leaving for katsina..had a trial abroad but wasn't successful

I like Destiny but he needs the right coach to get the best out of him. In truth I don't trust Stanley Eguma one bit. I just hope he doesn't mess things up in the continent although his job will be safe regardless

It's obvious this guy's mission to just to hype Nwakaeme while talking down on Henry. Lol. You are doing well. We have seen this route taken by so many before you before. Carry on.

12large1:
Trust me, if onyekuru had scored the type of goal that neakaeme scored yesterday, this thread will be Buzzing by now based on Hype. Honestly, nothing offends me more than Hypocrites. Someone should repost his last goal and compare it to the 3 goals onyekuru has scored thus far that got this place hype.

PSA, I am actually an onyekuru Fan but I'm strictly against partial selection or partial Hyping.

TheSuperNerd:
How has Nwakaeme been better than any of our starting wingers in the GWG? Explain.

Also explain how his stats in turkey will easily translate to anything better than what we have now. I am waiting.

My brother you can't just keep calling out of form players just because they were originally impressive in their first games. I feel like "in form" players should be selected until they totally flop multiple times. For example, Last season, Nwakaeme was actually SE best Winger and the best winger in turkey league but he never got a chance to prove himself while clubless Musa, Out of form Kalu kept on getting recalled. Anyway, what is upsetting us is the Hypocrisy of people Hyping onyekuru for scoring 3 goals while someone else has been doing it for the past 3 seasons and is rarely mentioned.

TheSuperNerd:
It's obvious this guy's mission to just to hype Nwakaeme while talking down on Henry. Lol. You are doing well. We have seen this route taken by so many before you before. Carry on.

I disagree. I actually Like henry just don't like Hypocrites or selective hyping/call ups. In my opinion, In form players should always take precedence over out of form players. That way, players will be eager to perform week in and out at their clubside and it will make your team more competitive

Asking this question means you obviously didn't get the gist of my analyses. You missed where I said this....

"Club form may get you NT invites but it is NT performances that keep you in the NT picture for the most part."

By this statement... Onuachu will always get invited because his club performances right now cannot be ignored. This is why I said Club performances can always get you invited especially when it is so obviously good. But has Onuachu delivered in the GWG as much as the likes of Osimhen or Iheanacho? Not yet, I'm afraid. But expect to see his name in the next list. A just reward for being our most in-form striker in Europe this season.

Tolulopefinest:
Going by this your analysis sir?
Then we can say Onauchu should never be invited to the super Eagles again right ?

We have an In-form player in Believe Iyayi Atiemwen based in Croatia and playing for Dinamo Zagreb. We should also make a huge case for him too, don't you think?

12large1:
I disagree. I actually Like henry just don't like Hypocrites or selective hyping/call ups. In my opinion, In form players should always take precedent over out of form players. That way, players will be eager to perform week in and out at their clubside and it will make your team more competitive

TheSuperNerd:
How has Nwakaeme been better than any of our starting wingers in the GWG? Explain.

Also explain how his stats in turkey will easily translate to anything better than what we have now in the NT. I am waiting.

Also, point out at any period where Nwakaeme was overly better than any one of Kalu, Chukwueze, Simon, or even Musa with respect to the NT. I dey wait for that one too.

With only 1 cap you want him to do better right ?

Nwakaeme has been better in club football

I know rohr doesn’t rate him or the Turkish league

Tell me he wasn’t given a chance ,don’t tell me those guys are better wingers

How many super eagles players have been judged with 1 cap

Bros leave matter

TheSuperNerd:
We have an In-form player in Believe Iyayi Atiemwen based in Croatia and playing for Dinamo Zagreb. We should also make a huge case for him too, don't you think?

Well, we also have to consider the League that they play and aside of that, we cannot be Hypocrites. Remember, this discussion started simply because onyekuru scored (3 goals in 2) and was hyped here by fans and by Journalists while another player kept on being ignored despite the fact that he had scored numerous good performances at the same league.

12large1:
Very myopic and sad mentality. That's why they can perform well in 1 game and be nonchalant yet they will keep getting called up.

If I am not mistaken osimhen didn’t do well in his first 2 eagles games or so but the rest is history

TheSuperNerd:
We have an In-form player in Believe Iyayi Atiemwen based in Croatia and playing for Dinamo Zagreb. We should also make a huge case for him too, don't you think?

Is there anything bad in calling a dynamo Zagreb player if we lack option is some positions ? I don’t think so

But common the guy you mention is not doing well jare

andrewbaba44:
If I am not mistaken osimhen didn’t do well in his first 2 eagles games or so but the rest is history

. Exactly, not just osimehn but numerous players. I personally think that the coach and fans are discriminating against him due to his Age. If the guy was younger, I feel like people will be salivating over him like they're doing to the king of gala. My own is that we must be partial, fair and consistent

BascoVanVeli:
I like Destiny but he needs the right coach to get the best out of him. In truth I don't trust Stanley Eguma one bit. I just hope he doesn't mess things up in the continent although his job will be safe regardless

Lol why dont u trust eguma? I like that continuity and patience that the club has given him.. Thats what most npl clubs lack...i have faith more in rivers in the continent

Oya point out how Kalu has been out-of-form this season? A player that scored as recently as almost two weeks ago vs Lyon in Ligue 1? Kalu is on 3 goals and 1 assist in 9 starts in Ligue 1. Out of form?

Or is it Chukwueze? Before his groin problem, Chuks bagged two assists in his last three games for Villarreal. Out of form?

Perhaps it is Simon who you wanna point out as out of form now but he keeps playing too and at a higher level than Nwakaeme. Also, Simon in the GWG delivers for the most parts. Should we drop him then for Nwakaeme because of his Super Lig stats? Please tell me. I want to know which winger you are really having a go at.

Or is it Dennis? Dennis just joined Koln very recently and got his first goal for them within his first three Koln games. He is out of form too abi?

And how do I explain the case with Musa? Musa is clubless now yes. But he is Super Eagles Captain and he has always been a big game player for us when it matters. Musa's case is more about reputation rather than Form or stats so tell me how you would handle dropping him as the coach without any drama.


And I have a question for you. Whenever the so called "out-of-form" got called up? Did he deliver when it mattered or not? Who saved our blushes against a stubborn Benin side that almost spoilt our opening AfconQ campaign for us? Who?? Out-of-form Kalu indeed.

And stop worrying about Henry Onyekuru. Rohr hasn't called him up in a while and I don't he will get an invite for the March games. So why does he getting praised here bother you so much? Na wa for this bros.

12large1:
My brother you can't just keep calling out of form players just because they were originally impressive in their first games. I feel like "in form" players should be selected until they totally flop multiple times. For example, Last season, Nwakaeme was actually SE best Winger and the best winger in turkey league but he never got a chance to prove himself while clubless Musa, Out of form Kalu kept on getting recalled. Anyway, what is upsetting us is the Hypocrisy of people Hyping onyekuru for scoring 3 goals while someone else has been doing it for the past 3 seasons and is rarely mentioned.

Check his current stats form in recent games and get back to me. You think I just called his name at random abi. Lol

andrewbaba44:
Is there anything bad in calling a dynamo Zagreb player if we lack option is some positions ? I don’t think so

But common the guy you mention is not doing well jare

With only one cap, Onuachu scored a worldie oooo... Remember.

Also, he (Nwakaeme) got his chance (from the start sef) as reward for his stats in Turkey but it looks like Rohr is okay with the other wing options. Perhaps if he had wowed in that "one game" he may have gotten more look-ins. Onuachu's strike on his debut got him a seat to Afcon 2019.

Sometimes... One game can make or mar even though it is truly not enough to judge a player's potential impact in the NT.

But one game is what some players will get MOST ESPECIALLY when there are loads of options in that role the player is fighting for.


Also, remember Chukwueze's debut in the Super Eagles? You remember that first 45 mins vs Uganda. That was enough for the young man to show the world and Nigerians that a new wing Lord has arrived.

So yes, one game is not enough to judge but sometimes, na that one game dey make the difference in some players' NT careers.

andrewbaba44:
With only 1 cap you want him to do better right ?

Nwakaeme has been better in club football

I know rohr doesn’t rate him or the Turkish league

Tell me he wasn’t given a chance ,don’t tell me those guys are better wingers

How many super eagles players have been judged with 1 cap

Bros leave matter

TheSuperNerd:
Oya point out how Kalu has been out-of-form this season? A player that scored as recently as almost two weeks ago vs Lyon in Ligue 1? Kalu is on 3 goals and 1 assist in 9 starts in Ligue 1. Out of form?

Or is it Chukwueze? Before his groin problem, Chuks bagged two assists in his last three games for Villarreal. Out of form?

Perhaps it is Simon who you wanna point out as out of form now but he keeps playing too and at a higher level than Nwakaeme. Also, Simon in the GWG delivers for the most parts. Should we drop him then for Nwakaeme because of his Super Lig stats? Please tell me. I want to know which winger you are really having a go at.

Or is it Dennis? Dennis just joined Koln very recently and got his first goal for them within his first three Koln games. He is out of form too abi?

And how do I explain the case with Musa? Musa is clubless now yes. But he is Super Eagles Captain and he has always been a big game player for us when it matters. Musa's case is more about reputation rather than Form or stats so tell me how you would handle dropping him as the coach without any drama.


And I have a question for you. Whenever the so called "out-of-form" got called up? Did he deliver when it mattered or not? Who saved our blushes against a stubborn Benin side that almost spoilt our opening AfconQ campaign for us? Who?? Out-of-form Kalu indeed.

And stop worrying about Henry Onyekuru. Rohr hasn't called him up in a while and I don't he will get an invite for the March games. So why does he getting praised here bother you so much? Na wa for this bros.

I understand your point, but so far, the dude has 6 Goals and 4 assists this season and his name hasn't even been mentioned here at all but onyekuru scored 3 goals and became the best thing since slice bread. Anyway, based on this season, he has been SE best winger 6 goals 4 assists and yea, its a lower league but we have to analyze the calibre of goals that the man score. Even last season, the guy scored 14 goals and 5 assist in all competitions. If it was our favorite that did that, this site would had broken. All I am saying is that we should be consistent, fair and partial in our Selection and hyping of our players. We cannot pick and choose when to dismiss a player based on his league vs when to hail a player based on their league. Lastly, based on current form, nwakaeme deserves a Call up to SE

This is actually untrue. Osimhen's first game was against SA and he was a very late sub. What were your expecting? But I recall even TheGoodJoe noted Osimhen's small impact and potentials in that very game when he came on. Osimhen's movement and pressing were especially mentioned by TheGoodJoe while the rest of us dwelt on the loss and on lashing Iheanacho and Rohr. Lol.
It wasn't to say Osimhen did better than anyone in just five mins but a few positives were seen and I agreed with GoodJoe.



In Osimhen's second game, he was a sub again vs Togo back in 2017. We won 3-0 courtesy of 2 from Musa and One from Iheanacho. Osimhen later came on for Musa and acquitted himself well indeed. But this game wasn't counted among Fifa graded friendlies coz we made 9 subs in the game.

In his actual officially capped second game vs Uganda in a friendly in 2018, Osimhen's started alongside Chukwueze who ass making his debut and had a very good first half.


At Afcon 2019 vs Tunisia, in his officially capped third game in the GWG in that third place game, he replaced Ighalo and had a fairly decent showing. This is a lad who was 20 at the time and getting set to step into Iggy's shoes. He was already being groomed for the #9 role of the NT.

Osimhen's actual fourth game (if I don't count the Togo game which was scrapped off Fifa records) was also his second start vs Ukraine and what a performance he put up.

So you are wrong to say Osimhen didn't do well in his first two SE Games. Against Uganda, he did very okay. That was his first start and he was delightful to watch. His 2nd start, he was even more super delightful to watch.


Vs SA (his debut), I don't know how you wanna grade an 18 yrs old teenager for a cameo of 5 mins. That's really funny. And you wanna use that to justify the performance of a 28yrs old Nwakaeme in his first start?? The 10yrs Difference plus the gap in professional experience no slap you abi? Lol

andrewbaba44:
If I am not mistaken osimhen didn’t do well in his first 2 eagles games or so but the rest is history

TheSuperNerd:
This is actually untrue. Osimhen's first game was against SA and he was a very late sub. What were your expecting? But I recall even TheGoodJoe noted Osimhen's small impact and potentials in that very game when he came on. Osimhen's movement and pressing were especially mentioned by TheGoodJoe while the rest of us dwelt on the loss and on lashing Iheanacho and Rohr. Lol.
It wasn't to say Osimhen did better than anyone in just five mins but a few positives were seen and I agreed with GoodJoe.



In Osimhen's second game, he was a sub again vs Togo back in 2017. We won 3-0 courtesy of 2 from Musa and One from Iheanacho. Osimhen later came on for Musa and acquitted himself well indeed. But this game wasn't counted among Fifa graded friendlies coz we made 9 subs in the game.

In his actual officially capped second game vs Uganda in a friendly in 2018, Osimhen's started alongside Chukwueze who ass making his debut and had a very good first half.


At Afcon 2019 vs Tunisia, in his officially capped third game in the GWG in that third place game, he replaced Ighalo and had a fairly decent showing. This is a lad who was 20 at the time and getting set to step into Iggy's shoes. He was already being groomed for the #9 role of the NT.

Osimhen's actual fourth game (if I don't count the Togo game which was scrapped off Fifa records) was also his second start vs Ukraine and what a performance he put up.

So you are wrong to say Osimhen didn't do well in his first two SE Games. Against Uganda, he did very okay. That was his first start and he was delightful to watch. His 2nd start, he was even more super delightful to watch.


Vs SA (his debut), I don't know how you wanna grade an 18 yrs old teenager for a cameo of 5 mins. That's really funny. And you wanna use that to justify the performance of a 28yrs old Nwakaeme in his first start?? The 10yrs Difference plus the gap in professional experience no slap you abi? Lol

You're actually proving his point. Osimehn didn't score in his first 3 official games for SE but kept on getting more chances. Now, the rest is History lol another person got 20 minutes in his 1st game and was never recalled again lol

mostob:
So what is your point bro. Football is not as straightforward as you think. You need to look into the team and see what is missing. Now, Nwakaeme is a striker, the question is, is he better than those we have now? So you are saying if Henry is recalled, they should call Tony, do both play in the same position. You need to stop victimising yourself ontop every post.

Nwakaeme is not a striker.

forgiveness:
Nwakaeme is not a striker.

Don't mind him lol he is clearly a winger. At the end of the day, they're all Nigerians and we wish all of them to succeed. But, we must be Consistent, Partial in our Selection, Hype and promotion from a fan/coach point of view

TheSuperNerd:
Check his current stats form in recent games and get back to me. You think I just called his name at random abi. Lol

I no see goal and assist for where I check

Abeg show me

I go reply your first 2 quotes later e too long

And again you need to stop making this very fallacious statement. Is it that you are new to this thread or you just skip posts that actually have given Nwakaeme a mention? What is this statement really??

And yes, he scored 14 goals and 7 assists in all comps... But in what league please? Only one of those goals came in the Europa league.

Osimhen scored 13 goals and had 4 assists in a much lighter league in Ligue 1, doing so with 10 league games still to play and the internet didn't break so leave that careless, baseless talk about internet breaking if certain players did what Nwakaeme did. Osimhen did much more in a higher league and NL still dey work! E shock you?

Moses Simon also had a storming season in Ligue 1. Bagged 5 goals and 5 assists in Ligue 1 which is levels above Turkey and the internet still dey alive. So wetin you dey talk sef?

In all comps, he had about 9 goals + 5 assists or so. Made the Nantes Team of the decade (2011-2020) and also got nominated for the Marc Vivien foe award in Ligue 1 for Best African player in France. An award won by Osimhen. Yet we are still here and you dey talk of this site breaking.

Nwakaeme is a good player but it is up to Rohr to call him up and if he doesn't, I still won't complain because we have loads of other good options as well. We also have a Lookman coming in soon. Would you pick Nwakaeme over Lookman based on stats alone?

12large1:
I understand your point, but so far, the dude has 6 Goals and 4 assists this season and his name hasn't even been mentioned here at all but onyekuru scored 3 goals and became the best thing since slice bread. Anyway, based on this season, he has been SE best winger 6 goals 4 assists and yea, its a lower league but we have to analyze the calibre of goals that the man score. Even last season, the guy scored 14 goals and 5 assist in all competitions. If it was our favorite that did that, this site would had broken. All I am saying is that we should be consistent, fair and partial in our Selection and hyping of our players. We cannot pick and choose when to dismiss a player based on his league vs when to hail a player based on their league. Lastly, based on current form, nwakaeme deserves a Call up to SE

You sure say you dey type the right name? Andy Chukwu the artful dodger... If I catch you ehn... Person wey score for him last game sef... Chaaaiiii. This man wan play me wayo. Hahahahaha

andrewbaba44:
I no see goal and assist for where I check

Abeg show me

I go reply your first 2 quotes later e too long

TheSuperNerd:
This is actually untrue. Osimhen's first game was against SA and he was a very late sub. What were your expecting? But I recall even TheGoodJoe noted Osimhen's small impact and potentials in that very game when he came on. Osimhen's movement and pressing were especially mentioned by TheGoodJoe while the rest of us dwelt on the loss and on lashing Iheanacho and Rohr. Lol.
It wasn't to say Osimhen did better than anyone in just five mins but a few positives were seen and I agreed with GoodJoe.



In Osimhen's second game, he was a sub again vs Togo back in 2017. We won 3-0 courtesy of 2 from Musa and One from Iheanacho. Osimhen later came on for Musa and acquitted himself well indeed. But this game wasn't counted among Fifa graded friendlies coz we made 9 subs in the game.

In his actual officially capped second game vs Uganda in a friendly in 2018, Osimhen's started alongside Chukwueze who ass making his debut and had a very good first half.


At Afcon 2019 vs Tunisia, in his officially capped third game in the GWG in that third place game, he replaced Ighalo and had a fairly decent showing. This is a lad who was 20 at the time and getting set to step into Iggy's shoes. He was already being groomed for the #9 role of the NT.

Osimhen's actual fourth game (if I don't count the Togo game which was scrapped off Fifa records) was also his second start vs Ukraine and what a performance he put up.

So you are wrong to say Osimhen didn't do well in his first two SE Games. Against Uganda, he did very okay. That was his first start and he was delightful to watch. His 2nd start, he was even more super delightful to watch.


Vs SA (his debut), I don't know how you wanna grade an 18 yrs old teenager for a cameo of 5 mins. That's really funny. And you wanna use that to justify the performance of a 28yrs old Nwakaeme in his first start?? The 10yrs Difference plus the gap in professional experience no slap you abi? Lol

What do you want Nwakaeme to do in his first game ?

So he can’t have a bad game on his debut ba ?

Maybe if all players that have a bad first game are being dumped only God know which players to remain for super eagles

Just take a look at you mocking a player age

What does age got to do with this ?

Osimhen first eagles game wasn’t good and he was at Wolfsburg then there is no way you can sugar coat it ,should we talk of ighalo ?

You are funny

Andrewbaba44 come here... You go show me that site you check wey you no see goals for Iyayi... Come outside!!!

TheSuperNerd:
You sure say you dey type the right name? Andy Chukwu the artful dodger... If I catch you ehn... Person wey score for him last game sef... Chaaaiiii. This man wan play me wayo. Hahahahaha

Iyayi believe

Transfer market deceive me be that because dem Dey write 4 goals and no goals nor assists

TheSuperNerd:
Andrewbaba44 come here... You go show me that site you check wey you no see goals for Iyayi... Come outside!!!

TheSuperNerd:
With only one cap, Onuachu scored a worldie oooo... Remember.

Also, he (Nwakaeme) got his chance (from the start sef) as reward for his stats in Turkey but it looks like Rohr is okay with the other wing options. Perhaps if he had wowed in that "one game" he may have gotten more look-ins. Onuachu's strike on his debut got him a seat to Afcon 2019.

Sometimes... One game can make or mar even though it is truly not enough to judge a player's potential impact in the NT.

But one game is what some players will get MOST ESPECIALLY when there are loads of options in that role the player is fighting for.


Also, remember Chukwueze's debut in the Super Eagles? You remember that first 45 mins vs Uganda. That was enough for the young man to show the world and Nigerians that a new wing Lord has arrived.

So yes, one game is not enough to judge but sometimes, na that one game dey make the difference in some players' NT careers.

I no even talk of chuks self

Onauchu get good first game Wetin happen for the rest

Biggest onauchu fan here and have always defended him till tomorrow self

His club form will always keep him at the national team no matter what

TheSuperNerd:
And again you need to stop making this very fallacious statement. Is it that you are new to this thread or you just skip posts that actually have given Nwakaeme a mention? What is this statement really??

And yes, he scored 14 goals and 7 assists in all comps... But in what league please? Only one of those goals came in the Europa league.

Osimhen scored 13 goals and had 4 assists in a much lighter league in Ligue 1, doing so with 10 league games still to play and the internet didn't break so leave that careless, baseless talk about internet breaking if certain players did what Nwakaeme did. Osimhen did much more in a higher league and NL still dey work! E shock you?

Moses Simon also had a storming season in Ligue 1. Bagged 5 goals and 5 assists in Ligue 1 which is levels above Turkey and the internet still dey alive. So wetin you dey talk sef?

In all comps, he had about 9 goals + 5 assists or so. Made the Nantes Team of the decade (2011-2020) and also got nominated for the Marc Vivien foe award in Ligue 1 for Best African player in France. An award won by Osimhen. Yet we are still here and you dey talk of this site breaking.

Nwakaeme is a good player but it is up to Rohr to call him up and if he doesn't, I still won't complain because we have loads of other good options as well. We also have a Lookman coming in soon. Would you pick Nwakaeme over Lookman based on stats alone?

First of all, the argument was that you shouldn't just dismiss a player based on 25 minutes cameo because some players initially perform bad then eventually succeed i.e osimehn. If osimehn was dismissed after his first 3 games (no goals) would it had been fair? NO. Also, the turkey league is a Farmers league like belgium and France league but remember that our 2013 ANC king (Victor Moses) flopped at that League. 5 in 20. Anyway, like I said based on last and this season performance Nwakaeme has been one of SE best Wingers and you and I know well that if onyekuru had scored 14 goals 5 assists in all competitions in turkey league, and didn't get a call up, Rohr Competency would had been questioned here. All I am suggesting is partial, Fair and Honest selection/hype/promotion from coaches and fans. Although, I am Onyekuru fan but it didn't sit right in my heart when Onyekuru scored 3 and everyone here celebrated him while someone else has been doing similar and been ignored for the past 3 seasons