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12large1:
First of all, the argument was that you shouldn't just dismiss a player based on 25 minutes cameo because some players initially perform bad then eventually succeed i.e osimehn. If osimehn was dismissed after his first 3 games (no goals) would it had been fair? NO. Also, the turkey league is a Farmers league like belgium and France league but remember that our 2013 ANC king (Victor Moses) flopped at that League. 5 in 20. Anyway, like I said based on last and this season performance Nwakaeme has been one of SE best Wingers and you and I know well that if onyekuru had scored 14 goals 5 assists in all competitions in turkey league, and didn't get a call up, Rohr Competency would had been questioned here. All I am suggesting is partial, Fair and Honest selection/hype/promotion from coaches and fans

Maybe they have problem with the age

It has always been hard to see a naija player doing well at 31

What Nwakaeme was expected to do as a 28 yrs old pro player and starter in his first NT game? Same thing Onuachu did in his first game naa at 24. Abi Onuachu no tear net??

Nwakaeme was no teenager on his debut. He was not 18 for goodness sake. So bringing up an 18 yrs old Osimhen who was into his first pro year of football to make excuses for a man who has seen about 7 years of professional football at his debut is the funny aspect of this discussion.

And it is not mockery please. It is me pointing out the obvious age gap in professional experience between both debut cases. One was 28 and well into his 7th year in professional club football and got a start. While the other came off the bench for the last 5 mins in a game we had already conceeded.

Nwakaeme wasn't a baby abeg. So stop making excuses for a full grown man. A good player he remains, but he isn't better than some of our wing options.

andrewbaba44:
What do you want Nwakaeme to do in his first game ?

So he can’t have a bad game on his debut ba ?

Maybe if all players that have a bad first game are being dumped only God know which players to remain for super eagles

Just take a look at you mocking a player age

What does age got to do with this ?

Osimhen first eagles game wasn’t good and he was at Wolfsburg then there is no way you can sugar coat it ,should we talk of ighalo ?

You are funny

Haven't I already said this? Or is it that una no dey read?

andrewbaba44:
I no even talk of chuks self

Onauchu get good first game Wetin happen for the rest

Biggest onauchu fan here and have always defended him till tomorrow self

His club form will always keep him at the national team no matter what

andrewbaba44:
Maybe they have problem with the age

It has always been hard to see a naija player doing well at 31

Lol seeing how Ronaldo, Ibrahimovich and buffon is performing at 36, 40 and 43, 31 seems to be relatively young except the guy falsified his age lol.

andrewbaba44:
Maybe they have problem with the age

It has always been hard to see a naija player doing well at 31

Well,u av said it all ..cos nerdy excuse no just hold water..d fact remains dt oda wingers we re parading @ d moment are not wide apart to nwakaeme in terms of form..dts if d latter is not better dan majority sef

TheSuperNerd:
What Nwakaeme was expected to do as a 28 yrs old pro player and starter in his first NT game? Same thing Onuachu did in his first game naa at 24. Abi Onuachu no tear net??

Nwakaeme was no teenager on his debut. He was not 18 for goodness sake. So bringing up an 18 yrs old Osimhen who was into his first pro year of football to make excuses for a man who has seen about 7 years of professional football at his debut is the funny aspect of this discussion.

And it is not mockery please. It is me pointing out the obvious age gap in professional experience between both debut cases. One was 28 and well into his 7th year in professional club football and got a start. While the other came off the bench for the last 5 mins in a game we had already conceeded.

Nwakaeme wasn't a baby abeg. So stop making excuses for a full grown man. A good player he remains, but he isn't better than some of our wing options.

You are getting it wrong okay, this is not comparism but example

So because nwakaeme didnt do well in his first game he should be dumped because he is not 18 and 28? can you listen to your self ?

Smiles

I give up on the way you are judging this matter

There is no age in football just take note, the best players in the world this days are in their 30s

So because osimhen was 18 meant he should be given a chance even if he had a bad game then if he is 28 he should be dumped ?

Nerdy can you listen to your self ?

You know better than this but continue

One thing about most of you is that you think we are attacking some players but we are just saying it as it is

Nobody is responsible for nwakaeme not being called up but Gernot Rohr

If you remove sentiments most times then i think you will understand me better

TheSuperNerd:
What Nwakaeme was expected to do as a 28 yrs old pro player and starter in his first NT game? Same thing Onuachu did in his first game naa at 24. Abi Onuachu no tear net??

Nwakaeme was no teenager on his debut. He was not 18 for goodness sake. So bringing up an 18 yrs old Osimhen who was into his first pro year of football to make excuses for a man who has seen about 7 years of professional football at his debut is the funny aspect of this discussion.

And it is not mockery please. It is me pointing out the obvious age gap in professional experience between both debut cases. One was 28 and well into his 7th year in professional club football and got a start. While the other came off the bench for the last 5 mins in a game we had already conceeded.

Nwakaeme wasn't a baby abeg. So stop making excuses for a full grown man. A good player he remains, but he isn't better than some of our wing options.

He might not be better than our current winger when everyone is "in form" But on current form, he is one of SE best winger. But whats annoying us is totally dismissing him based on 25 minutes cameo while clubless and out of from players keep getting selected. To add insult to injury, Another player scores 3 goals in the same league and everyone start salivating while he has been scoring for the past 3 seasons while fans/pundits here are Mute. E nor fair

elyte89:
Well,u av said it all ..cos nerdy excuse no just hold water..d fact remains dt oda wingers we re parading @ d moment are not wide apart to nwakaeme in terms of form..dts if d latter is not better dan majority sef

Lol leave nerdy

I even surprise for wetin e dey talk

TheSuperNerd:
Haven't I already said this? Or is it that una no dey read?

And nwakaeme club form cannot get him invited because of one bad first game

But onauchu club form will always keep him after 5 bad games

Nwakaeme not being invited is rohr fault and you need to accept that

We can all agree now that rohr is clueless

12large1:
Lol seeing how Ronaldo, Ibrahimovich and buffon is performing at 36, 40 and 43, 31 seems to be relatively young except the guy falsified his age lol.

If i remove greats like ronaldo and zlatan and co i will still list many world class players in their 30s many players in their 20s cant match up to

Nwakaeme played 71 mins on his Super Eagles debut.

Osimhen played only 5 on his debut and he was 18 and already being groomed to take over in the #9 role. The result of which can be seen today.

Nwakaeme didn't make his 71 mins count. Admit it. He was poor that day. You cannot even compare his 71 mins debut with Chukwueze's 45 mins debut and Chuks was still a rookie in club pro football.

And looks like you are new to Rohr. Even when Onyekuru raped Belgium and did well in one of his first two stints at Gala, Rohr didn't really consider his good enough. Rohr hardly gave him chances. He took him to the Afcon in 2019 bcoz his stats and form were good but he didn't even play him until the Algeria game off the bench. So even right now, that Henry had began tearing up Turkey again, I really doubt if Rohr will take him more seriously but time will tell.


And no... Nwakaeme has not been one of the SE best wingers. Which game did he shine in for the SE to earn such tag? Abeg let's be guided. Instead, He has one of the finest stats of Nigerian players based in Europe but in the Super Eagles, we have seen the wingers that have earned their tags as the Super Eagles' best. Lads like Moses Simon, Chukwueze, Kalu, Musa.

And Nwakaeme has not been ignored by us in the past three seasons... He has only been ignored by Rohr. So stop using those lines that we don't talk about him when almost everytime I drop our players-in-Europe action guide and even give a couple of reports later, Nwakaeme's name does pop up for the last three seasons. Abeg... No dey lie that kain lie again. It makes me believe you have an agenda for insisting on such fallacy.

12large1:
First of all, the argument was that you shouldn't just dismiss a player based on 25 minutes cameo because some players initially perform bad then eventually succeed i.e osimehn. If osimehn was dismissed after his first 3 games (no goals) would it had been fair? NO. Also, the turkey league is a Farmers league like belgium and France league but remember that our 2013 ANC king (Victor Moses) flopped at that League. 5 in 20. Anyway, like I said based on last and this season performance Nwakaeme has been one of SE best Wingers and you and I know well that if onyekuru had scored 14 goals 5 assists in all competitions in turkey league, and didn't get a call up, Rohr Competency would had been questioned here. All I am suggesting is partial, Fair and Honest selection/hype/promotion from coaches and fans. Although, I am Onyekuru fan but it didn't sit right in my heart when Onyekuru scored 3 and everyone here celebrated him while someone else has been doing similar and been ignored for the past 3 seasons

I am surprised you guys are here making a case for Nwakaeme who is stats-padding in a league rated lower than many of the leagues most of our wingers are found in and didn't hold same debating energy for Sadiq Umar when he was commanding mad stats as a CF in Serbia... You guys can be so selective in how your argumentative energy flows. But keep it up.

andrewbaba44:
Lol leave nerdy

I even surprise for wetin e dey talk

andrewbaba44:
If i remove greats like ronaldo and zlatan and co i will still list many world class players in their 30s many players in their 20s cant match up to

. Yes, personally I feel that we're super stacked at that Wing position and I could even care less if neakaeme is called because my favorite Ejuke can't even make our 11. Wetin pics me off na how everyone come dey salivate over onyekuru for scoring 3 goals when anoda man don dey score for 2 seasons lol. All we're saying is be partial and Fair in selection/favortism

Kalu is also in form. Chuks was also in form before his groin injury.

Dennis is in form too. An Incoming Lookman is also in form.

It's only Moses Simon that I would say isn't in such form but then that means Nwakaeme >>> Simon for you in the next list right ?

Also it means Musa, the captain have to make way to accommodate Nwakaeme.

Like I already said before... Nwakaeme will only be considered again for another SE shot if few of our other options go missing through suspension or injury. It's that simple.

andrewbaba44:
And nwakaeme club form cannot get him invited because of one bad first game

But onauchu club form will always keep him after 5 bad games

Nwakaeme not being invited is rohr fault and you need to accept that

We can all agree now that rohr is clueless

Who would you rather give more chances to as a coach? An 18 yrs old lad who just smashed the world goalscoring record at U-17 level and holds loads of promise or a 28 yrs old lad who is tearing up Turkey? Abeg answer because it's like you think this coaching job is that easy when it comes to making decisions.

andrewbaba44:
You are getting it wrong okay, this is not comparism but example

So because nwakaeme didnt do well in his first game he should be dumped because he is not 18 and 28? can you listen to your self ?

Smiles

I give up on the way you are judging this matter

There is no age in football just take note, the best players in the world this days are in their 30s

So because osimhen was 18 meant he should be given a chance even if he had a bad game then if he is 28 he should be dumped ?

Nerdy can you listen to your self ?

You know better than this but continue

One thing about most of you is that you think we are attacking some players but we are just saying it as it is

Nobody is responsible for nwakaeme not being called up but Gernot Rohr

If you remove sentiments most times then i think you will understand me better

TheSuperNerd:
Kalu is also in form. Chuks was also in form before his groin injury.

Dennis is in form too. An Incoming Lookman is also in form.

It's only Moses Simon that I would say isn't in such form but then that means Nwakaeme >>> Simon for you in the next list right ?

Also it means Musa, the captain have to make way to accommodate Nwakaeme.

Like I already said before... Nwakaeme will only be considered again for another SE shot if few of our other options go missing through suspension or injury. It's that simple.

When majority of dem were out of form last season aside simon and nwakaeme was breaking personal/club records in Turkey.. Was rohrbish in coma?

Nope. You missed the main point. The point is that Osimhen wasn't as poor as Nwakaeme was. Nwakaeme played for 71 mins and put up a very poor show. But Osimhen had five mins in his first game. Came good in his second game vs Uganda and also showed promise vs Tunisia.

Chuks also didn't score on his debut vs Uganda but was so lively Rohr could not ignore him. So that is the point you missed.

After all, Onuachu did score on his debut but cannot even off-stage Osimhen from the #9 role currently.

Now, Onuachu who did quite well on his debut is still struggling to get his chances and is still in the conversation because he is in such wicked form in Europe yet it is Nwakaeme who could not even score on his debut nor put up a sound/decent enough performance that you guys are here talking up as if he would bring anything more special than what Chuks, Simon, Kalu, and co bring.

You guys should wake up. Nwakaeme is a good player. But he is not better than what we've got. If he really wanted a shot all this time, then perhaps he should have sought a move to a higher
League. Look at Sadiq Umar... He bossed Serbia yet you didn't show up then to be his attorney.

Did Umar remain there this season? No. He moved to La Liga 2 which is higher than most topflights in Europe as a way of getting into La liga and lad is still proving himself. So rest.

What you are doing with Nwakaeme now is what you could have done with Sadiq while he tore Serbia to shreds.

12large1:
You're actually proving his point. Osimehn didn't score in his first 3 official games for SE but kept on getting more chances. Now, the rest is History lol another person got 20 minutes in his 1st game and was never recalled again lol

TheSuperNerd:
Who would you rather give more chances to as a coach? An 18 yrs old lad who just smashed the world goalscoring record at U-17 level and holds loads of promise or a 28 yrs old lad who is tearing up Turkey? Abeg answer because it's like you think this coaching job is that easy when it comes to making decisions.

oga I am making an example

Stop making look like I said rohr should bench osimhen for Nwakaeme or they are playing in the same position

Stop changing my examples because you wanna proove a point

TheSuperNerd:
Kalu is also in form. Chuks was also in form before his groin injury.

Dennis is in form too. An Incoming Lookman is also in form.

It's only Moses Simon that I would say isn't in such form but then that means Nwakaeme >>> Simon for you in the next list right ?

Also it means Musa, the captain have to make way to accommodate Nwakaeme.

Like I already said before... Nwakaeme will only be considered again for another SE shot if few of our other options go missing through suspension or injury. It's that simple.

Lol Emmanuel Dennis in form after scoring 1 goal for his new club ?

Well I now rate lookman above all our wingers after watching him at Fulham

TheSuperNerd:
I am surprised you guys are here making a case for Nwakaeme who is stats-padding in a league rated lower than many of the leagues most of our wingers are found in and didn't hold same debating energy for Sadiq Umar when he was commanding mad stats as a CF in Serbia... You guys can be so selective in how your argumentative energy flows. But keep it up.

I wasn’t expecting him to be invited

He has been doing well for the past 3 seasons and he was ignored

You don see me come here come make noise like one egbon here say why dem no invite Nwakaeme ?

Nwakaeme and sadiq are not playing in the same position ,stop changing this arguement please

You wanna pick umar sadiq over top flight league strikers ba

I will talk about umar sadiq when he makes it to Laliga soon or others better league

You want me to talk about umar sadiq when there is a striker in Ligue1 and bundesliga

I won’t take any division 2 strikers in the eagles for now

Next season is not far for umar to be in a top fligth team

Last season was 2019/2020 abi? Abeg remind me again if we played any game during the pandemic in 2020 before October/November.

I think Nwakaeme was meant to have made the list in June or maybe August during the Pandemic abi? Yeah Rohrbish really missed that.

See ooo... Rohr get him own nonsense but on this Nwakaeme matter.... I don't see anything wrong with inviting a Kalu right now over him. Right now, Kalu dey form too. Plus he is a much better baller than Nwakaeme. And even if Rohr picks Simon who hasn't scored in recent weeks over Nwakaeme, I would still be okay too. Why? Simon is tested and trusted in the GWG and delivers too.

Also Simon made the list for the October games. He missed out in November because of Injury.

elyte89:
When majority of dem were out of form last season aside simon and nwakaeme was breaking personal/club records in Turkey.. Was rohrbish in coma?

Yes naa. He is just three games into his new Bundesliga side and has already scored a goal despite needing time to settle into a level higher than Belgium. Plus he has started every game. Man is in form.

andrewbaba44:
Lol Emmanuel Dennis in form after scoring 1 goal for his new club ?

Well I now rate lookman above all our wingers after watching him at Fulham

Tinneh:
Lol why dont u trust eguma? I like that continuity and patience that the club has given him.. Thats what most npl clubs lack...i have faith more in rivers in the continent

Patience? U do know he is the longest serving coach in the league right? I feel he can be a bit naive tactically. It won't show in the league because of the superior amount of talent in the side but if they go further in the continent it may be a different issue.

I know Rivers have better talent but it is hard for me to imagine players leaving Enyimba and then sticking it to them. They always end up proving that they are better without the piece of the puzzle that left. Just like they went on to win a title right after what I felt was wrongly letting go of the Oracle Gbanga Ogunbota. Even after Mfon Udoh left they beat him to win the league. This is what makes the match up so intriguing. I personally don't know what will happen

Lol... Then I think you should all commend Rohr for ignoring him too despite those bad-ass stats in Serbia. Remember he also delivered in the Europa league too while in Serbia.

Invitations to the NT isn't always black and white. Sometimes, the quality of the competition one plays in could come into play especially in a role where we aren't short of options plying their trades in better/higher quality leagues and not doing badly themselves.

So make una dey calm down. Nwakaeme is playing in a role where we are not short of good options. And only injuries or suspension to a few of them would see him get his chance again.

andrewbaba44:
I wasn’t expecting him to be invited

He has been doing well for the past 3 seasons and he was ignored

You don see me come here come make noise like one egbon here say why dem no invite Nwakaeme ?

Nwakaeme and sadiq are not playing in the same position ,stop changing this arguement please

You wanna pick umar sadiq over top flight league strikers ba

I will talk about umar sadiq when he makes it to Laliga soon or others better league

You want me to talk about umar sadiq when there is a striker in Ligue1 and bundesliga

I won’t take any division 2 strikers in the eagles for now

Next season is not far for umar to be in a top fligth team

Lol... No naa...but na question naa. In this NT job, a coach has so many decisions to make and part of them is considering those players worth more chances than others. So your response here tells me that you at least appreciate that calling Osimhen as an example of a debut in order to make excuses for Nwakaeme's debut flop no hold at all. Lol

andrewbaba44:
oga I am making an example

Stop making look like I said rohr should bench osimhen for Nwakaeme or they are playing in the same position

Stop changing my examples because you wanna proove a point

TheSuperNerd:
Lol... No naa...but na question naa. In this NT job, a coach has so many decisions to make and part of them is considering those players worth more chances than others. So your response here tells me that you at least appreciate that calling Osimhen as an example of a debut in order to make excuses for Nwakaeme's debut flop no hold at all. Lol

It will always be an example

There is no age in football as far as you are doing well you dig ?

What appreciate ? I can use any player as an example nah bros ,or you think I am trying to talk down on victor because I said he didn’t do well on his debut ? Naaa ,you should know me nah

Balogun is 33 and he is better than almost all our young defenders if I am not mistaken

TheSuperNerd:
Lol... Then I think you should all commend Rohr for ignoring him too despite those bad-ass stats in Serbia. Remember he also delivered in the Europa league too while in Serbia.

Invitations to the NT isn't always black and white. Sometimes, the quality of the competition one plays in could come into play especially in a role where we aren't short of options plying their trades in better/higher quality leagues and not doing badly themselves.

So make una dey calm down. Nwakaeme is playing in a role where we are not short of good options. And only injuries or suspension to a few of them would see him get his chance again.

Serbia is a poor league no player should be invited from there ,super eagles no be Uganda national team

It can’t be compared to the Turkish league nah And some others nah

TheSuperNerd:
Yes naa. He is just three games into his new Bundesliga side and has already scored a goal despite needing time to settle into a level higher than Belgium. Plus he has started every game. Man is in form.

Dennis na my man sha

Those epl rumors wey no work out pain me

But there's professional experience in football. That, no one can wash away and make light of. Nwakaeme had 7 yrs of that and still froze on his debut. Unlike Osimhen who came in and did more in five mins than Anthony did in 71. Fact.

Also Chuks just starting at Villarreal professionally did far more in 45 mins on his debut than what Nwakaeme delivered for us in 71mins. And this is the National team. Lots of players/talents keep popping up all over the globe. If one cannot take his chance when given from the start even if in one game, then he only has himself to blame if he never gets called up again.

It's the way NT competition is.

Now remember I said I know One game may never be enough to judge a player but sometimes, that one game is all a Player may have to show us what he's got in the light of rising competition for places in the NT, year in, year out.

If Nwakaeme wanna get Rohr's attention. He should look at what Onuachu is doing. Onuachu is forcing himself into Rohr's plans with his crazy goals scoring in Belgium. He is the best in Belgium.

But is Nwakaeme even the best LW in Turkey? Even Onyekuru right now commands a better goals-game ratio and even he may not have Rohr's attention yet. There is a kind of stats form Nwakaeme will command in Turkey that Rohr won't ignore.
But 6 goals + 4 assists in 19 starts in a league rated below the likes of Holland, Belgium, Russia, Scotland, Austria and even Ukraine won't exactly wow Rohr I'm afraid.
He could only get invited for the March games if we are missing a few other options.

andrewbaba44:
It will always be an example

There is no age in football as far as you are doing well you dig ?

What appreciate ? I can use any player as an example nah bros ,or you think I am trying to talk down on victor because I said he didn’t do well on his debut ? Naaa ,you should know me nah

Balogun is 33 and he is better than almost all our young defenders if I am not mistaken

I don't even think Dennis to the EPL would have worked because he doesn't exactly have the required NT caps percentage needed to secure that work permit.
He didn't take part in 75% of NT games in the last two years prior to being linked to the EPL.

andrewbaba44:
Dennis na my man sha

Those epl rumors wey no work out pain me

TheSuperNerd:
But there's professional experience in football. That, no one can wash away and make light of. Nwakaeme had 7 yrs of that and still froze on his debut. Unlike Osimhen who came in and did more in five mins than Anthony did in 71. Fact.

Also Chuks just starting at Villarreal professionally did far more in 45 mins on his debut than what Nwakaeme delivered for us in 71mins. And this is the National team. Lots of players/talents keep popping up all over the globe. If one cannot take his chance when given from the start even if in one game, then he only has himself to blame if he never gets called up again.

It's the way NT competition is.

Now remember I said I know One game may never be enough to judge a player but sometimes, that one game is all a Player may have to show us what he's got in the light of rising competition for places in the NT, year in, year out.

If Nwakaeme wanna get Rohr's attention. He should look at what Onuachu is doing. Onuachu is forcing himself into Rohr's plans with his crazy goals scoring in Belgium. He is the best in Belgium.

But is Nwakaeme even the best LW in Turkey? Even Onyekuru right now commands a better goals-game ratio and even he may not have Rohr's attention yet. There is a kind of stats form Nwakaeme will command in Turkey that Rohr won't ignore.
But 6 goals + 4 assists in 19 starts in a league rated below the likes of Holland, Belgium, Russia, Scotland, Austria and even Ukraine won't exactly wow Rohr I'm afraid.
He could only get invited for the March games if we are missing a few other options.

Onyekuru has always Been a good goal scorer nah ,rohr no Kuku dey give that one chance

I am not even talking of Nwakaeme performance this season self

TheSuperNerd:
I don't even think Dennis to the EPL would have worked because he doesn't exactly have the required NT caps percentage needed to secure that work permit.
He didn't take part in 75% of NT games in the last two years prior to being linked to the EPL.

That’s true ooo work permit issues

But please remind me on how Isaac success own was done ?