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iyambz:
(Eph 5:18 kjv) “And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;” The will of the Lord is for you not to drink. It’s a commandment. Drinking is Bad.

51 verses from the old testament to the new testament

1. (Isa 5:22 kjv) The Bible is against drinking.
2. (Prov 20:1 kjv) You’re stupid if you drink.
3. (Hab 2:15 kjv) Woe to him that give his neighbour drink.
4. (Prov 23:29-30 kjv) Strong drink produces woes, sorrows.
5. (Lam 4:21 kjv) It leads to sin.
6. (Luke 21:34 kjv) It keeps you from God.
7. (Gen 9:20-27 kjv) Drink messed Noah up, and wicked sin was committed after which brought a curse to the seed of Ham (Ham is African).
8. (Gen 19:32-38 kjv) Lot’s incest because of drink.
9. (Lev 10:8-11 kjv) No drink for the Levi’s.
10. (Num 6:3 kjv) Separating from wine and strong drink.
11. (Deut 21:20 kjv) Drinking is one of the attributes of stubbornness and rebellion.
12. (Judges 13:4 kjv) Don’t drink wine nor strong drink.
13. (1 Kings 16: 8-10 kjv) What drinking did to Elah, king of Israel that it led to his death.
14. (1 Kings 20:13-21 kjv) What drinking did to kings.
15. (Esther 1:5-22 kjv) What drinking did to a king.
16. (Prov 21:17; 23:21 kjv) Drunkenness leads to poverty. Don’t look at drinks.
17. (Prov 23:31 kjv) Don’t look at drinks.
18. (Prov 23:32 kjv) Drink bites like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.
19. (Prov 23:33 kjv) It fills the mind with impure and perverse thoughts.
20. (Prov 23:24 kjv) It brings on danger, accidents.
21. (Prov 23:35 kjv) Insensibility follows drinking.
22. (Prov 31:4-5 kjv) Officials are not supposed to drink.
23. (Ecc 2:3 kjv) King Solomon tried strong drink but at the end, he admits that it was vanity (Ecc 2:11; 12:8 kjv).
24. ((Ecc 10:17 kjv) A nation is blessed whose leader eat for strength and refrain from drunkenness.
25. (Isa 5:11-12,22; 22:13; 28:1 kjv).
26. (Isa 28:7 kjv) Prophets and priests became incapable of spiritual leading because of their drunkenness.
27. (Isa 56:12 kjv) Drinking accomplishes foolish optimism. You can’t drink your sorrow away. Put your sins under the blood of Jesus Christ.
28. (Jer 35:5-8,14,19 kjv) Total abstinence to contain God’s blessings.
29. (Dan 1:5,8,16; 10:3 kjv) Daniel refusing to drink of the king’s wine was specially blessed by the Lord.
30. (Dan 5:1-2 kjv) Tragic example of a king who drank wine and let other people to do it.
31. (Dan 5:3 kjv) Drinking leads to profane sacred things.
32. (Dan 3:25,28 kjv) Moral degradation. Drinking is a symptom and ultimately punished by God.
33. (Hos 4:10-11 kjv) Strong drink and immorality go hand in hand.
34. (Hos 7:5 kjv) The king drinking made him sick and sorrowful.
35. (Joel 3:3 kjv) Young women were sold for a price of a drink.
36. (Amos 4:1 kjv) Oppressors of the poor call for their drink.
37. (Amos 3:3-6 kjv) Evil. Not concerned about the afflictions of the poor. They make them rich.
38. (Hab 2:5 kjv) Arrogance is inflamed by drink.
39. (Hab 2:15 kjv) Not to give drink to your neighbour.
40. (Matt 24:48-51 kjv) Drinking is not consistent with alertness.
41. (Luke 1:15 kjv) The greatness of John the Baptist was likened to his total abstinence from drink.
42. (Luke 12:45 kjv) Christ warns against drunkenness.
43. (Luke 21:34 kjv) Drinking perverts men from being prepared for judgement day.
44. (Rom 13:13 kjv) Walk honestly, not in rioting and drunkenness.
45. (Rom 14:21 kjv) Christians are admonished not to drink, otherwise it will cause a brother to stumble.
46. (1 Cor 5:11 kjv) Christians are forbidden to keep company with drunkard.
47. (1 Cor 6:10 kjv) No drunkard shall inherit the kingdom of God.
48. (1 Cor 11:21 kjv) The Lord’s supper is no time for drunkenness.
49. (Gal 5:21 kjv) No inheritance in the kingdom of God.
50. (1 Tim 3:3,8 kjv) Church leaders are not to be given to wine.
51. (Eph 5:18 kjv) Christians are commanded not to be drunk in wine, but be filled with the Spirit.

Check your heart. If that drink doesn't lighten you up, will you take it?

Dtruthspeaker:
It is Written, "it is Not What Enters the mouth of a man which defiles him" Mathew 15:11

iyambz:
Like I said, check your heart. Is it not what's on the inside that will make a man to take alcohol to defy himself? Before you drink that alcohol, haven't you been thinking about it? You don't become a murderer when you kill someone, you were already a murderer before you committed the crime because you have been thinking about it.

By context, read the remaining verses:
Matt 15:18-20 "But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

kenzysmith:
Holy holy na put sister amaka in the family way. If I drink achahol they help d needy how I take sin? Those wey no dey drink who them done help?

Pavore9:
Nothing is wrong with moderate consumption of alcoholic drink like every other things in life.

I love taking banana wine (like in the attached images), so because the banana went through fermentation it then becomes a sin to consume?

HoneyBadgerr:
I don't believe that's a correct interpretation of what the Bible teaches.

Drunkenness is a sin, not consuming alcoholic drinks; same way gluttony is a sin, not eating food. Who do you think made palm-wine? God? Did he make anything bad? And didn't you read that Jesus himself turned water to wine or you think that was fruit juice? Generally, if the culture in Nigeria is against alcohol, I keep away, lest my good be spoken of as evil, but when in France or South Africa, I may enjoy a glass of wine with the brothers there.

The crux of the matter is that one's liberty, regardless of what it may be, must not lead another brother or sister into sin. So we know we have liberty to enjoy some fine wine without getting drunk, but if a younger believer who looks up to one sees him/her drinking wine and does same, but ends up drunk because he does not have the same level of self control, God will count it against that elder brother or sister for not restraining or giving up his liberty. Why you may ask? Because you are no longer walking in love when you do something that causes another to stray (not any different from a sister wearing suggestive clothes that may cause a struggling brother to lust).

This is what the Holy Spirit through Paul was trying to convey in Romans 14 and 1 Cor 6. Food or drink, when taken in moderation and with thanksgiving, cannot defile a believer!

iyambz:
God made bananas, but not for it to go through fermentation for alcoholic consumption. Now instead of spending so much time trying to prove that alcohol is good, why not go down on your face before the Lord to find out whether or not your own heart is good or evil. Your thoughts are not God's thoughts.

Pavore9:
And the first miracle attributed to Jesus was turning water into what?

tstx:
Jesus once "turned water into wine"

Traditional Jewish wedding celebrations
included drinking wine, and Jesus' first
miracle was turning water into wine at the
wedding in Cana (John 2:1–11 ). It is safe
to assume that He also partook in drinking
the wine in moderation. Another Jewish
tradition, the Passover celebration, also
generally included wine, which the Bible
sometimes refers to as the "fruit of the
vine" (Matthew 26:27–29 ; Mark 14:23–25 ;
Luke 22:17–18 ). Jesus certainly partook of
the Passover cup.



Luke 7 indicates that Jesus drank alcohol
at times. While John the Baptist did not
drink wine, it is implied that Jesus did drink
wine, for the religious leaders of the day
accused Him of being a drunkard. Jesus
said: "For John the Baptist has come
eating no bread and drinking no wine, and
you say, 'He has a demon.' The Son of
Man has come eating and drinking, and you
say, 'Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard,
a friend of tax collectors and
sinners!'" (Luke 7:33–34 ). In spite of this
accusation, Jesus was never gluttonous or
drunk, because He lived a totally sinless life
(1 Peter 2:22 ). Jesus Himself warned
against drunkenness because it prevents
one from being ready for His return (Luke
21:34–36 ; see also Luke 12:45–47 ).


The Bible explicitly forbids drunkenness
(Ephesians 5:18 ; Romans 13:13 ; Galatians
5:21 ; 1 Peter 4:3 ; Luke 21:34 ; Proverbs
23:20 ), but drinking wine or alcohol is not
inherently a sin. The problem is the lack of
self-restraint and the consequences of
overindulgence. The same is true with
food. Both gluttony and drunkenness are
sins, according to the Bible (Proverbs 20:1 ;
23:2 ; 25:16 , 27; Ephesians 5:18 ). First
Corinthians 6:12 says, "'All things are lawful
for me,' but not all things are helpful. 'All
things are lawful for me,' but I will not be
dominated by anything."

jmoore:
Jesus created the best wine ever. He turned water into wine, not to fruit juice.

FACT: Every wine is alcoholic. Fermentation process is very key in alcohol production.

Jesus obviously drank alcohol.


What the Bible condemned is excess intake of alcohol.

iyambz:
Okay. Now instead of spending so much time trying to prove that drinking alcohol is good, why not go down upon your face before God to find out whether or not your heart is good or evil. Will you drink alcohol if it doesn't lighten things up?

iyambz:
(John 2) "The marriage in Cana, the first public miracle in the New Testament." Read vs 6. Each pot contained 18 to 27 gallons, so six waterpots of stone would be anywhere from 72 to 162 gallons of liquor. If it was fermented, it could have gotten an army drunk (Lev 10:9-10; Hab 2:15 kjv). Face it: Jesus Christ broke the law if He created fermented liquor. It was not; it was a supernatural wine. Notice in the passage that He is speaking of His death on the cross (John 2:4 kjv) in connection with the wine. You are told that the grape that has "pure blood" is "in the cluster" (Isa 65:8 kjv), on "the vine" (Matt 26:29 kjv). It was not fermented liquor at all. That wine is a picture of Christ's pure blood. If it was fermented, His blood cannot take away sins. But anyways, I can't make you change your mind, if the Holy Spirit can't do it, i will simply be wasting my time.

iyambz:
(Eph 5:18 kjv) “And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;”
The will of the Lord is for you not to drink. It’s a commandment. Drinking is Bad.

51 verses from the old testament to the new testament
1. (Isa 5:22 kjv) The Bible is against drinking. 2. (Prov 20:1 kjv) You’re stupid if you drink. 3. (Hab 2:15 kjv) Woe to him that give his neighbour drink. 4. (Prov 23:29-30 kjv) Strong drink produces woes, sorrows. 5. (Lam 4:21 kjv) It leads to sin. 6. (Luke 21:34 kjv) It keeps you from God. 7. (Gen 9:20-27 kjv) Drink messed Noah up, and wicked sin was committed after which brought a curse to the seed of Ham (Ham is African). 8. (Gen 19:32-38 kjv) Lot’s incest because of drink. 9. (Lev 10:8-11 kjv) No drink for the Levi’s. 10. (Num 6:3 kjv) Separating from wine and strong drink. 11. (Deut 21:20 kjv) Drinking is one of the attributes of stubbornness and rebellion. 12. (Judges 13:4 kjv) Don’t drink wine nor strong drink. 13. (1 Kings 16: 8-10 kjv) What drinking did to Elah, king of Israel that it led to his death. 14. (1 Kings 20:13-21 kjv) What drinking did to kings. 15. (Esther 1:5-22 kjv) What drinking did to a king. 16. (Prov 21:17; 23:21 kjv) Drunkenness leads to poverty. Don’t look at drinks. 17. (Prov 23:31 kjv) Don’t look at drinks. 18. (Prov 23:32 kjv) Drink bites like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder. 19. (Prov 23:33 kjv) It fills the mind with impure and perverse thoughts. 20. (Prov 23:24 kjv) It brings on danger, accidents. 21. (Prov 23:35 kjv) Insensibility follows drinking. 22. (Prov 31:4-5 kjv) Officials are not supposed to drink. 23. (Ecc 2:3 kjv) King Solomon tried strong drink but at the end, he admits that it was vanity (Ecc 2:11; 12:8 kjv). 24. ((Ecc 10:17 kjv) A nation is blessed whose leader eat for strength and refrain from drunkenness. 25. (Isa 5:11-12,22; 22:13; 28:1 kjv). 26. (Isa 28:7 kjv) Prophets and priests became incapable of spiritual leading because of their drunkenness. 27. (Isa 56:12 kjv) Drinking accomplishes foolish optimism. You can’t drink your sorrow away. Put your sins under the blood of Jesus Christ. 28. (Jer 35:5-8,14,19 kjv) Total abstinence to contain God’s blessings. 29. (Dan 1:5,8,16; 10:3 kjv) Daniel refusing to drink of the king’s wine was specially blessed by the Lord. 30. (Dan 5:1-2 kjv) Tragic example of a king who drank wine and let other people to do it. 31. (Dan 5:3 kjv) Drinking leads to profane sacred things. 32. (Dan 3:25,28 kjv) Moral degradation. Drinking is a symptom and ultimately punished by God. 33. (Hos 4:10-11 kjv) Strong drink and immorality go hand in hand. 34. (Hos 7:5 kjv) The king drinking made him sick and sorrowful. 35. (Joel 3:3 kjv) Young women were sold for a price of a drink. 36. (Amos 4:1 kjv) Oppressors of the poor call for their drink. 37. (Amos 3:3-6 kjv) Evil. Not concerned about the afflictions of the poor. They make them rich. 38. (Hab 2:5 kjv) Arrogance is inflamed by drink. 39. (Hab 2:15 kjv) Not to give drink to your neighbour. 40. (Matt 24:48-51 kjv) Drinking is not consistent with alertness. 41. (Luke 1:15 kjv) The greatness of John the Baptist was likened to his total abstinence from drink. 42. (Luke 12:45 kjv) Christ warns against drunkenness. 43. (Luke 21:34 kjv) Drinking perverts men from being prepared for judgement day. 44. (Rom 13:13 kjv) Walk honestly, not in rioting and drunkenness. 45. (Rom 14:21 kjv) Christians are admonished not to drink, otherwise it will cause a brother to stumble. 46. (1 Cor 5:11 kjv) Christians are forbidden to keep company with drunkard. 47. (1 Cor 6:10 kjv) No drunkard shall inherit the kingdom of God. 48. (1 Cor 11:21 kjv) The Lord’s supper is no time for drunkenness. 49. (Gal 5:21 kjv) No inheritance in the kingdom of God. 50. (1 Tim 3:3,8 kjv) Church leaders are not to be given to wine. 51. (Eph 5:18 kjv) Christians are commanded not to be drunk in wine, but be filled with the Spirit.

Check your heart. If that drink doesn't lighten you up, will you take it?

woleomojesu:
Thank you

Dtruthspeaker:
It is Written, "it is Not What Enters the mouth of a man which defiles him" Mathew 15:11

Missyajoke:
Tell them ohh, they won't listen

iyambz:
God made bananas, but not for it to go through fermentation for alcoholic consumption. Now instead of spending so much time trying to prove that alcohol is good, why not go down on your face before the Lord to find out whether or not your own heart is good or evil. Your thoughts are not God's thoughts.

jmoore:
Jesus created the best wine ever. He turned water into wine, not to fruit juice.

FACT: Every wine is alcoholic. Fermentation process is very key in alcohol production.

Jesus obviously drank alcohol.

What the Bible condemned is excess intake of alcohol.

AntiChristian:
What about the wine miracle which was Jesus first miracle?

jmoore:
Jesus created the best wine ever. He turned water into wine, not to fruit juice.

FACT: Every wine is alcoholic. Fermentation process is very key in alcohol production.

Jesus obviously drank alcohol.


What the Bible condemned is excess intake of alcohol.

iyambz:
1. God made palm wine, He made alcohol, tobacco etc.. The problem is how people use it makes it unclean (Rom 14:14 kjv). For instance, tobacco is used as a rat poison. It is also used to draw out poison from somebody ; like scorpion and bear, but people end up smoking it just like the devil in (Job 41). Same with alcohol, it is used to make medicine, not for consumption as a drink.

2. (John 2) "The marriage in Cana, the first public miracle in the New Testament." Read vs 6. Each pot contained 18 to 27 gallons, so six waterpots of stone would be anywhere from 72 to 162 gallons of liquor. If it was fermented, it could have gotten an army drunk (Lev 10:9-10; Hab 2:15 kjv). Face it: Jesus Christ broke the law if He created fermented liquor. It was not; it was a supernatural wine. Notice in the passage that He is speaking of His death on the cross (John 2:4 kjv) in connection with the wine. You are told that the grape that has "pure blood" is "in the cluster" (Isa 65:8 kjv), on "the vine" (Matt 26:29 kjv). It was not fermented liquor at all. That wine is a picture of Christ's pure blood. If it was fermented, His blood cannot take away sins.

3. Don't follow culture or traditions, but after Christ (Col 2:8 kjv).

4. Your liberty can make another to stumble. (1 Cor 8:9 kjv) "9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak." Now imagine your church congregation seeing your pastor relaxing in a bar filled with all kind of people living like the devil, while drinking his beer or alcoholic wine, what do you think will happen to the weaker members?

5. You better be careful how you go to the Bible. If you go to the Bible with a preconceived notion, it will break your full neck.

6. Instead of spending so much time trying to prove that drinking alcohol is good, why not go down upon your face before God to find out whether or not your heart is good or evil.

7. Alcohol can be an idol in your life. why? Because every time that thing comes up, it trips your trigger. You say how do I know? It's because somebody is kicking your god, and you'll do everything to defend it, including using the Scriptures. An idol is the thing that you worship, just like people worship celebrities and will always defend them because they are nice people in the eyes of men. Your thoughts is not God's thoughts.

OkCornel:
@iyambz, please why did God also consider wine to be a titheable commodity per the old covenant?

Deuteronomy 14 v 22-26 KJV

23 And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.

24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the Lord thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the Lord thy God hath blessed thee:

25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose:

26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household


Please pay attention to the highlighted parts in verse 26.

Cc:Bassreeves, Honeybadgerr, jmoore, Pavore9

iyambz:
I'll give you an answer because I'm not ashamed of my knowledge of the Scriptures.

(Deut 14:21-29 kjv)"Strong drink allowed once a year in one city"

Vs 26: In spite of this "license" for drinking once a year, look at what happens to a priest when he drinks either "wine" or "strong drink" (Lev 10:9 kjv). That means that most Catholic and Anglican priests deserve capital punishment if they are trying to imitate the Biblical priesthood. It also means that the Christian who pretends that he himself is not a "priest," when (1 Pet 2:9 kjv) says he is, is simply looking for an alibi to get "on the bottle." "Drink offerings" are poured out (Num 28:7 kjv). They are not drunk by a "priest" (Ezek. 44:21 kjv), unless he is a Catholic or an Anglican "priest."

Cc:Bassreeves, Honeybadgerr, jmoore, Pavore9, OkCornel

iyambz:
I'll give you an answer because I'm not ashamed of my knowledge of the Scriptures.

(Deut 14:21-29 kjv)"Strong drink allowed once a year in one city"

Vs 26: In spite of this "license" for drinking once a year, look at what happens to a priest when he drinks either "wine" or "strong drink" (Lev 10:9 kjv). That means that most Catholic and Anglican priests deserve capital punishment if they are trying to imitate the Biblical priesthood. It also means that the Christian who pretends that he himself is not a "priest," when (1 Pet 2:9 kjv) says he is, is simply looking for an alibi to get "on the bottle." "Drink offerings" are poured out (Num 28:7 kjv). They are not drunk by a "priest" (Ezek. 44:21 kjv), unless he is a Catholic or an Anglican "priest."

Cc:Bassreeves, Honeybadgerr, jmoore, Pavore9

HedwigesMaduro:
Nah. They'll tell you it was fruit juice. SMH.