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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by zeusdgrt(m): 8:10am On Feb 14, 2021
Glycosunde:


What is your APC leaders like Tinubu? Do you think I give a hoot about PDP or APC. I'm a Nigerian and like I said Jonathan is part of Nigeria problems just like Tinubu, Buhari and others
Nop they made u think he was the problem.
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by Coronavirus1: 8:18am On Feb 14, 2021
Antoeni:
Jonathan is Just too Calm
Now enjoy your Next Level since he is too calm

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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by Glycosunde: 8:19am On Feb 14, 2021
zeusdgrt:

Nop they made u think he was the problem.

Nobody made me believe he was d problem bcus he is part of the problem. When d road to Otuoke his home land is still not motorable, then what can he do. If not for his cluelessness, Buhari won't have been d president. Ur enemies will always use ur weakness to their advantage.

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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by floss(m): 8:39am On Feb 14, 2021
Firstvaxer:
Gej is a man of peace, no doubt. We need peace urgently in this Country right now
GEJ was not the right person to lead Nigeria, no form of disrespect .. he is a good man, but there is what we call sequence, America is enjoying today what older generation fought for...what Nigeria need at the moment for a president is a radical, strong will, Smart, rational and no nonsense kind of leader that is ready to go to jail if found wanting, he will lay the foundation for our democracy so that every incoming leaders will build on it,.... GEJ will now be the perfect match for a future leader.....for christians; John the Baptist prepared the way for Jesus Christ (Sequence)...I don't think Nigerians were wrong voting Buhari in 2015, this was what they were looking for... Buhari's CV pointed him towards being the John the Baptist needed to prepare the way for our democracy but seems not all that glitters is diamond.... the person that will lay that foundation is not a politician, let's stop voting in politicians they are the reason Nigeria is the way it is....Vote for a leader, look around you, people with good leadership qualities most times don't have any portfolio or office, they are volunteers that help ensure that things run smoothly...those are the people that will lay the foundation stone for our democracy....we have tried politicians for more than 20yrs, nothing to show for it.

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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by budusky05(m): 9:00am On Feb 14, 2021
He should go and sit down, whats happening now started from his regime,

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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by Nobody: 9:08am On Feb 14, 2021
floss:

GEJ was not the right person to lead Nigeria, no form of disrespect .. he is a good man, but there is what we call sequence, America is enjoying today what older generation fought for...what Nigeria need at the moment for a president is a radical, strong will, Smart, rational and no nonsense kind of leader that is ready to go to jail if found wanting, he will lay the foundation for our democracy so that every incoming leaders will build on it,.... GEJ will now be the perfect match for a future leader.....for christians; John the Baptist prepared the way for Jesus Christ (Sequence)...I don't think Nigerians were wrong voting Buhari in 2015, this was what they were looking for... Buhari's CV pointed him towards being the John the Baptist needed to prepare the way for our democracy but seems not all that glitters is diamond.... the person that will lay that foundation is not a politician, let's stop voting in politicians they are the reason Nigeria is the way it is....Vote for a leader, look around you, people with good leadership qualities most times don't have any portfolio or office, they are volunteers that help ensure that things run smoothly...those are the people that will lay the foundation stone for our democracy....we have tried politicians for more than 20yrs, nothing to show for it.

You're smart and intelligent

we need dirty leader to go into muddy system of government and fight all dirty politicians so that we get our country free from dirty leaders and clean ones will be allowed to step in
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by 400billionman: 9:30am On Feb 14, 2021
Nigerians know only one COUPIST.

Dogs and Baboons..
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by nameo: 9:45am On Feb 14, 2021
Onlinealaba:
Gej is coming back 2023, lipsrsealed

To do what??

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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by vertueptime: 10:02am On Feb 14, 2021
Pls buy malt and drink as a gift to ur brain, d thing de function well

PrinceOfLagos:
Tinubu plan in 2015 election was to pull a Yaradu'a on Nigerians but jubril happened .

The northerners are politically smart .
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by BruncleZuma: 10:03am On Feb 14, 2021
Glycosunde:



which APC is currently screwed by PDP, r dey not all d same. Was Buhari in PDP before. They are all d same and bunch of thieving nincompoops

1 notable individual is Rotimi Amaechi who was the Speaker of River State House of Assembly, then governor for two terms all of which was under PDP

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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by vertueptime: 10:07am On Feb 14, 2021
Pls buy malt and drink as a gift to ur brain, d thing de function well.

PrinceOfLagos:
Tinubu plan in 2015 election was to pull a Yaradu'a on Nigerians but jubril happened .

The northerners are politically smart .
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by zeusdgrt(m): 10:26am On Feb 14, 2021
Glycosunde:


Nobody made me believe he was d problem bcus he is part of the problem. When d road to Otuoke his home land is still not motorable, then what can he do. If not for his cluelessness, Buhari won't have been d president. Ur enemies will always use ur weakness to their advantage.
Oga jonathan was not myopic like u or buhari he never worked based on tribalism or regional sentiment,he was busy trying so hard to please all regions, stretching his arms to all that's why they betrayed him.so stop thinking myopic cz of the road network to his village

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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by Deadlytruth(m): 10:36am On Feb 14, 2021
zeusdgrt:

Oga jonathan was not myopic like u or buhari he never worked based on tribalism or regional sentiment,he was busy trying so hard to please all regions, stretching his arms to all that's why they betrayed him.so stop thinking myopic cz of the road network to his village
He tried hard to please only Northerners and that was why he divided the South which all stood with him in 2011. He sacrificed even the interest of his own SS Region to please the North because he has his eyes on their phantom huge voting population against 2015

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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by LordOfTheGame: 10:51am On Feb 14, 2021
ZendayaColeman:
Bubus uselessness turned GEJ to a hero

This how mysterious God's work is. He raises the poor from the dust and humbles the proud. Men's wisdom is foolishness before God's sight. He whom the Lord have not abandoned, no one can hurt him.
The wisdom of the conspirators and evil power drunk men in 2015 has turned out to be the biggest foolishness ever in the history of Nigeria.
GEJ is the real winner here. He won respect and accolades, love and peace of mind, he's has proven what integrity really means. The hands of God is upon him.
Happy Valentine's Day
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by emmyrate1(m): 11:01am On Feb 14, 2021
FastLane25:
abegi... why is he advising politicians.. Oga u no different from them during your time...
that is because Ur brain refuse to develop for the past years
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by zeusdgrt(m): 12:18pm On Feb 14, 2021
Deadlytruth:
He tried hard to please only Northerners and that was why he divided the South which all stood with him in 2011. He sacrificed even the interest of his own SS Region to please the North because he has his eyes on their phantom huge voting population against 2015
The south had measures and mechanism put in place by him for growth hence NDDC and the rest,he was simply trying to bring every region to development not trying to please.
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by chiboyo(m): 12:57pm On Feb 14, 2021
Tiwatopebabe:
Truth be told, democracy is doomed. It has failed and it has even become a jinx for the African continent. What this system needs is a secession. And an adaptation of a new form of government. Until then, election may turn out to be war, a bloody war because why one man from a tribe out of hundreds of tribe in Nigeria will put his tribe over everyone, ask them to misbehave in any way then come back to quote democracy is beyond me.

Whilst your submissions are very valid, i believe that it is the people that make up a system and there would always be smaller ethnic groups within even within the seceded group and these agitations would still continue

Once we can have equity and justice and corruption perpetrators punished, then secession or not, we are good!

My humble submission
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by Deadlytruth(m): 4:55pm On Feb 14, 2021
zeusdgrt:

The south had measures and mechanism put in place by him for growth hence NDDC and the rest,he was simply trying to bring every region to development not trying to please.
First and foremost it wasn't him that established NDDC as you would have us believe. Rather, NDDC was set up as far back as 2000 by the Obasanjo administration and that was a time when Jonathan was still a very obscure deputy governor of Bayelsa State.
Below is the inexhaustive list of the ways he tried to please the North at the expense of the South. I wish you read through and explain how such actions, inactions and choices of his amounted to attempts to bring development to every region:

1. At a time it was reasonably being suspected that the Northern elite was behind the insurgency ravaging the country and spreading down South, Jonathan sacked Andrew Owoye (His own fellow Southerner and Bayelsa kinsman for that matter as National Security Adviser) and replaced him with Dasuki a core member of the Northern Oligarchy. Could you kindly explain how that passed for an attempt to bring development to all regions? If anything, that decision alone became the catalyst that rose insecurity to the cancerous level we battle with today.

2. After reluctantly conceding to midwife the 2014 confab, he openly declared that to him personally, Nigeria's problem has nothing to do with the structure but with corruption which once killed, every other thing would miraculously begin to fall into place. Where in the world has corruption been successfully killed and buried if one may even ask? Please tell us which, between the North and South is notorious for that line of argument if you think he wasn't trying to please the North at the expense of genuine national interest.

3. On being appointed as National Population Commission Chairman in 2014 or so, Festus Odimegwu publicly spoke a very bitter but very much needed truth by declaring that all censuses ever conducted in Nigeria were fraudulent and the figures inflated in both North and South with the objective of making a big catch in federal allocation, and then promised to end that trend in his time by introduction of digital documentation of bio data. Immediately, Governor Kwankwaso of Kano State, reeling from guilty conscience despite Odimegwu accused both the North and South of the menace of inflation of census figures, made a public speech in which he accused Odimegwu of being under the influence of alcohol having only worked in Breweries all his life. Then Kwankwaso proceeded to Ask Rock to mount pressure on Jonathan to sack Odimegwu and replace him with a pliable Northerner which Jonathan didn't waste a second doing thinking that such was an opportunity to connect himself to the sympathy of Kano State's phantom huge voter population ahead of 2015. Could you kindly explain how that amounted to an attempt to bring development to every region?

4. On the opening day of the 2014 confab, Jonathan went to the venue and in his opening speech advised the delegates to use 75% as basis for consensus on any issue. Now, every educated person knows that even the universal 66.7% (i.e. ⅔ majority) is very difficult to secure in most democratic bargains, so what reason would a PhD holder president have for proposing 75% if not to demonstrate to the Northerners some assurance that he had an initio deliberately programmed the confab to fundamentally fail so as to get their sympathy ahead of 2015 election?
Can you explain how his 75% proposal wasn't meant to rather kill the ultimate objective of the confab which was all about putting in place the right kind of structure that would have genuinely brought development to every region? Please recall that when the likes of Idris Kutigi later tried to suggest in one of the sittings of the delegates that the normal democratic ⅔ majority be stuck to as basis for consensus, the core Northern delegates fumed and staged a walkout insisting that the president who midwifed the confab had himself dictated the consensus percentage and must be stuck to. Pray tell me if they would have insisted on sticking to Jonathan's proposal had he suggested say 30% as basis for consensus. And with all these you still believed that Jonathan wasn't trying to please the core North ahead of 2015 but trying to bring development to every region?


5. When the confab had reached an advanced stage, Jonathan again came out to the public and declared that at the completion of the confab he would forward the report to the National Assembly statutorily dominated by Northern representatives for further action. Didn't common sense rather dictate that he sent the report to the masses who asked for the confab in the first instance on account of the fact that it had become obvious that the National Assembly wasn't really interested in anything other than approving offensive allowances for themselves to buy latest model cars and other anti-people concerns? So in exactly which region's developmental interest was Jonathan going to send that report to the National Assembly if not to just a way of proving to the resistant North that he didn't really mean to have the recommendations implemented.

6. Then I guess his building of Almajiri schools in the North when the natives of the riverine areas of his own SS were living in coastal shanties and shades of trees had become their classrooms was an attempt to bring development to every region also?

7. During his campaign in Portharcourt Stadium in the build up to the 2015 election, Jonathan with his own mouth confessed that he purposely denied the SS region of projects because he didn't want to be perceived as a regional bigot. But then by so doing he was actually bigoted against his own people hence still a bigot all the same.

I can go on and on citing countless examples of how Jonathan failed to learn from history that the North is not pleased by any developmental projects or gesture from a Southerner in power.

In summary, Jonathan was massively voted out of power by those he thought he wanted to please, and that served him right.

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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by zeusdgrt(m): 7:26pm On Feb 14, 2021
Deadlytruth:

First and foremost it wasn't him that established NDDC as you would have us believe. Rather, NDDC was set up as far back as 2000 by the Obasanjo administration and that was a time when Jonathan was still a very obscure deputy governor of Bayelsa State.
Below is the inexhaustive list of the ways he tried to please the North at the expense of the South. I wish you read through and explain how such actions, inactions and choices of his amounted to attempts to bring development to every region:

1. At a time it was reasonably being suspected that the Northern elite was behind the insurgency ravaging the country and spreading down South, Jonathan sacked Andrew Owoye (His own fellow Southerner and Bayelsa kinsman for that matter as National Security Adviser) and replaced him with Dasuki a core member of the Northern Oligarchy. Could you kindly explain how that passed for an attempt to bring development to all regions? If anything, that decision alone became the catalyst that rose insecurity to the cancerous level we battle with today.

2. After reluctantly conceding to midwife the 2014 confab, he openly declared that to him personally, Nigeria's problem has nothing to do with the structure but with corruption which once killed, every other thing would miraculously begin to fall into place. Where in the world has corruption been successfully killed and buried if one may even ask? Please tell us which, between the North and South is notorious for that line of argument if you think he wasn't trying to please the North at the expense of genuine national interest.

3. On being appointed as National Population Commission Chairman in 2014 or so, Festus Odimegwu publicly spoke a very bitter but very much needed truth by declaring that all censuses ever conducted in Nigeria were fraudulent and the figures inflated in both North and South with the objective of making a big catch in federal allocation, and then promised to end that trend in his time by introduction of digital documentation of bio data. Immediately, Governor Kwankwaso of Kano State, reeling from guilty conscience despite Odimegwu accused both the North and South of the menace of inflation of census figures, made a public speech in which he accused Odimegwu of being under the influence of alcohol having only worked in Breweries all his life. Then Kwankwaso proceeded to Ask Rock to mount pressure on Jonathan to sack Odimegwu and replace him with a pliable Northerner which Jonathan didn't waste a second doing thinking that such was an opportunity to connect himself to the sympathy of Kano State's phantom huge voter population ahead of 2015. Could you kindly explain how that amounted to an attempt to bring development to every region?

4. On the opening day of the 2014 confab, Jonathan went to the venue and in his opening speech advised the delegates to use 75% as basis for consensus on any issue. Now, every educated person knows that even the universal 66.7% (i.e. ⅔ majority) is very difficult to secure in most democratic bargains, so what reason would a PhD holder president have for proposing 75% if not to demonstrate to the Northerners some assurance that he had an initio deliberately programmed the confab to fundamentally fail so as to get their sympathy ahead of 2015 election?
Can you explain how his 75% proposal wasn't meant to rather kill the ultimate objective of the confab which was all about putting in place the right kind of structure that would have genuinely brought development to every region? Please recall that when the likes of Idris Kutigi later tried to suggest in one of the sittings of the delegates that the normal democratic ⅔ majority be stuck to as basis for consensus, the core Northern delegates fumed and staged a walkout insisting that the president who midwifed the confab had himself dictated the consensus percentage and must be stuck to. Pray tell me if they would have insisted on sticking to Jonathan's proposal had he suggested say 30% as basis for consensus. And with all these you still believed that Jonathan wasn't trying to please the core North ahead of 2015 but trying to bring development to every region?


5. When the confab had reached an advanced stage, Jonathan again came out to the public and declared that at the completion of the confab he would forward the report to the National Assembly statutorily dominated by Northern representatives for further action. Didn't common sense rather dictate that he sent the report to the masses who asked for the confab in the first instance on account of the fact that it had become obvious that the National Assembly wasn't really interested in anything other than approving offensive allowances for themselves to buy latest model cars and other anti-people concerns? So in exactly which region's developmental interest was Jonathan going to send that report to the National Assembly if not to just a way of proving to the resistant North that he didn't really mean to have the recommendations implemented.

6. Then I guess his building of Almajiri schools in the North when the natives of the riverine areas of his own SS were living in coastal shanties and shades of trees had become their classrooms was an attempt to bring development to every region also?

7. During his campaign in Portharcourt Stadium in the build up to the 2015 election, Jonathan with his own mouth confessed that he purposely denied the SS region of projects because he didn't want to be perceived as a regional bigot. But then by so doing he was actually bigoted against his own people hence still a bigot all the same.

I can go on and on citing countless examples of how Jonathan failed to learn from history that the North is not pleased by any developmental projects or gesture from a Southerner in power.

In summary, Jonathan was massively voted out of power by those he thought he wanted to please, and that served him right.
The basic assertion that jonathan neglected his own to appease the north is far from the truth,when Yar adua was in power the same assertion was pushed by the northerners after militants were given packages to surrender their arms for peace and development.Now jonathan stepping into the shoes of same assertion wanted a place for all where developmental strides and grow simultaneously hence he reformed the NDDC under him to carry massive project as well he also developed the north,the main reason he was voted out was for tribalism by the north and greediness by the west and few south but they had to find a bases to discredit his tenure hence the media,boko haram etc was effected even protest that the lifeless one is against today was undertaken by him.Jonathan never neglected his people the sabotaged his efforts to make it seem so.Even confab was for the same reason of simultaneous growth in all regions.
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by Deadlytruth(m): 9:27pm On Feb 14, 2021
zeusdgrt:

The basic assertion that jonathan neglected his own to appease the north is far from the truth,when Yar adua was in power the same assertion was pushed by the northerners after militants were given packages to surrender their arms for peace and development.Now jonathan stepping into the shoes of same assertion wanted a place for all where developmental strides and grow simultaneously hence he reformed the NDDC under him to carry massive project as well he also developed the north,the main reason he was voted out was for tribalism by the north and greediness by the west and few south but they had to find a bases to discredit his tenure hence the media,boko haram etc was effected even protest that the lifeless one is against today was undertaken by him.Jonathan never neglected his people the sabotaged his efforts to make it seem so.Even confab was for the same reason of simultaneous growth in all regions.
So Jonathan lied against himself when he declared publicly in Portharcourt that he purposely denied his own region of democracy dividends in order not to appear regionally bigoted? Yaradua initially attacked Niger Delta with violence but had to succumb when the Militants'reprisal attack on oil facilities drowned the economy by 75% within two weeks of intense onslaughts. I am at loss as to how Jonathan reformed NDDC, and yet the commission has since his reign till this moment sunk further and further into mind boggling corruption as exemplified by the revelations that emanated from the recent probe of the body .. No one discredited Jonathan’s tenure other than himself. Boko Haram started existing in 2002 and that was eight clear years before Jonathan ever dreamt of becoming president, so the narrative that Boko Haram was created to discredit his government has no logical basis. If at all any person or entity was guilty of using Boko Haram to discredit Jonathan's government then it was his own party PDP because those who threatened to make Nigeria ungovernable if he contested and won the 2011 election in the persons of Alhaji Lawan Kaita, Adamu Ciroma and Atiku were all members of the PDP. Then Andrew Azazi Owoye the Bayelsa born National Security Adviser to Jonathan threw more light on it all by revealing that Boko Haram was a fall out of internal power struggle within PDP for which he got sacked by Jonathan and soon afterwards died in very questionable circumstances without Jonathan ever probing that death. The same West and part of the South you accuse of voting against Jonathan out of greed in 2015 all queued behind him in 2011 so your theory of greed doesn't hold water. They all rather supported him in 2011 because he as of then came across as the God sent messiah judging from his humble background coupled with the fact that he was not in any way connected to the militaristic establishment which had held Nigeria by the jugular since 1966 and the perception that he, being a native of the region hardest hit by the injustices wrought on the country by the faulty structure and militaristic Oligarchy 1999 constitution and others before it, would be genuinely committed to the task of bringing about a genuinely just fair and equitable constitution unlike Obasanjo and Yaradua who did all they could to sustain that fraudulent constitution. But against every expectation Jonathan became a strong advocate of the unjust status quo in both his actions arguments and choices. In fact he began to hobnob with members of the very establishment that brought Nigeria to her sorry state and it became clear that hopes of his messiahship were misplaced and that he was just another fortunato in power like his two predecessors hence he was voted out in 2015. Even Festus Odimegwu noted, in his memo against him, that any policy or advice he perceived would endanger his second term bid he, would reject regardless of how noble, just and beneficial to genuine national interest; but would effortlessly heed and implement any policy advice as long as it seemed to oil the wheels of his second term bid machinery regardless of how hurtful and inimical to genuine national interest such might be. Unfortunately you have still not addressed any of the posers I have placed before you as proofs that jonathan was only after satisfying the North in view of pleasing them ahead of 2015

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Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by NovusHomo(m): 10:00pm On Feb 14, 2021
Re: Goodluck Jonathan: Politicians Should Not See Elections As Coup by Akaegwu(m): 8:32am On Feb 15, 2021
PrinceOfLagos:
Tinubu plan in 2015 election was to pull a Yaradu'a on Nigerians but jubril happened .

The northerners are politically smart .
Wicked analysis

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