KelvinCoaster:

You need apologize to michlin because you called him out due to your one sided perception about his request to the alumaco guy.
I wonder why it is easy to shout ''thief,fraud,scam'' but too difficult to say ''sorry,apologies,forgive me''.

cribking1 vs mountmoriah saga still in my mind.

He never used any such words like thief, fraud or scam. Infact he was explicit and factual.

It’s simply a case of not knowing who to believe. Michlin presented audio recording. The client also gave invertedhammer an audio recording.

In this short life, people can really surprise someone.

Dijita:
Hello everyone
I am considering bio digester for my project. Can anyone who have install it for a period of 2 to 3 years kindly share their experience?
One major concern I have is how the microbes in the digester will survive when one clean the bathroom and toilet bowl with bleach or some other cleaning agent

Thanks

Talk to rotech77

saydfact:



IMAGINE - JUST IMAGINE....

You couldn't EVEN call michlins since you recommended him to discuss this, you discussed with 2 guys in private and accused the 3rd in public - when you all could have cleared this off -here...

YAH ALL ARE LUCKY I'M NOT SEUN - and yes seun needs to close this thread - ITS AS USELSS AS IT CAN GET NOW...... and shame on us all.

IF NA ME BE michlins person wire me this kind useless accusation - I GO JUST RETURN NNA MONEY - rather than try to explain jack...

Its time for me to leave this now useless thread, afterall even the thread owner (my oga) mufutau55 left .... if anyone needs my help, kindly tag me...

We will be waiting for for you at https://www.kobocity.com You're a wonderful contributor.

Hello everyone, Can someone help me to verify this quote for aluminum casement.

BuildingProject:
Hello everyone, Can someone help me to verify this quote for aluminum casement.

Boss
Is it tower material or thick imported?

RockOfAgesAlumi:

Boss
Is it tower material or thick imported?

He didn't even state if it's thick imported or Tower. Will contact him tomorrow again to know if it's tower.

BuildingProject:


He didn't even state if it's thick imported or Tower. Will contact him tomorrow again to know if it's tower.

Okay
If you don't mind sir,
Tower
1200 x 1200=50k
900 x 1200=40k
600 x 600=25k

Thick imported
1200 x 1200=40k
900 x 1200=32k
600 x 600=20k
Thanks

44chux:


He never used any such words like thief, fraud or scam. Infact he was explicit and factual.

It’s simply a case of not knowing who to believe. Michlin presented audio recording. The client also gave invertedhammer an audio recording.

In this short life, people can really surprise someone.

/
No qualms. Is it not Nairaland?

He either sits up or someone in the near future will be referencing these posts. He is the one that put those labels on himself.

The twists and turns? Time will tell

/

InvertedHammer:

/
No qualms. Is it not Nairaland?

He either sits up or someone in the near future will be referencing these posts. He is the one that put those labels on himself.

The twists and turns? Time will tell

/

good morning bro. I want to you to read this with an open mind. Forget what you have heard prior and just try and reason with me here.

First I want to thank you for putting yourself on the line for me. Like I said sometime ago, it's not something most family members will do for us but here, strangers are helping out others grow financially and otherwise.

The job in question, I haven't submitted a quotation before I asked for the phone number of the alumaco guy. I told your friend the exact reason I wanted to speak with him. If I had sinister motives, I wouldn't have done that before getting the money. My experience has thought me better.

Seriously I don't know what you have heard and how the person that told you interpreted it for you but I just wish you will respond to me privately and I will show you everything including the VN of my discussion with your friend and the alumaco guy and you can judge me.

I did a job for a Nairalander Ty01 which I supplied last week. It's window burglaries. The measurements I was given was 4ft by 4ft and I went ahead to deduct 1" from it yet when he received it,it didn't fit at all. The engineer said "I should have known better". At the end of the day, the welder gets blamed because we're the least educated. From the pictures he sent me, I was supposed to deduct at least 4" from the windows but just imagine if I did that and the burglaries were too small. I will still be blamed for cheating the client. Now they will need to amend the burglaries to fit. However, there's no room for amendment in the job I was discussing with your friend.

In my line of work, there's no established rules to follow. Everyone works "as the spirit leads". So it's important that everyone works in unison to avoid errors.

Once again sir, I thank you for the opportunity.

michlins:
good morning bro. I want to you to read this with an open mind. Forget what you have heard prior and just try and reason with me here.

First I want to thank you for putting yourself on the line for me. Like I said sometime ago, it's not something most family members will do for us but here, strangers are helping out others grow financially and otherwise.

The job in question, I haven't submitted a quotation before I asked for the phone number of the alumaco guy. I told your friend the exact reason I wanted to speak with him. If I had sinister motives, I wouldn't have done that before getting the money. My experience has thought me better.

Seriously I don't know what you have heard and how the person that told you interpreted it for you but I just wish you will respond to me privately and I will show you everything including the VN of my discussion with your friend and the alumaco guy and you can judge me.

I did a job for a Nairalander Ty01 which I supplied last week. It's window burglaries. The measurements I was given was 4ft by 4ft and I went ahead to deduct 1" from it yet when he received it,it didn't fit at all. The engineer said "I should have known better". At the end of the day, the welder gets blamed because we're the least educated. From the pictures he sent me, I was supposed to deduct at least 4" from the windows but just imagine if I did that and the burglaries were too small. I will still be blamed for cheating the client. Now they will need to amend the burglaries to fit. However, there's no room for amendment in the job I was discussing with your friend.

In my line of work, there's no established rules to follow. Everyone works "as the spirit leads". So it's important that everyone works in unison to avoid errors.

Once again sir, I thank you for the opportunity.

/
I have been on NL for years (since 2012). I have searched my soul and mind on why I would want to run you down. I couldn't come up with one reason. I can't identify you in a line up and I believe it is the same for you.

Read through the conversation you posted below. You said the Aluminum fabricator said he doesn't want to modify the measurements. Along the line you mentioned that they modify to maximize profit. Those are your words. And you were asked what prompted the discussion about "modification" and "maximizing profit" especially considering that two of you have your measurements? Then you took offense. I

If you don't see the red flag there about modification and maximizing profit that prompted the word "collusion", so be it. I read through the same transcript and formed an opinion. Based on my experience here, I am not worried about dishonest people because they are quick to detect. I am worried about honest people who derail. I believe you know your craft and will not hesitate to give you a job strictly to fabricate if I have some.

Good luck.
/

Case settled lets all move on.

InvertedHammer:

/
I have been on NL for years (since 2012). I have searched my soul and mind on why I would want to run you down. I couldn't come up with one reason. I can't identify you in a line up and I believe it is the same for you.

Read through the conversation you posted below. You said the Aluminum fabricator said he doesn't want to modify the measurements. Along the line you mentioned that they modify to maximize profit. Those are your words. And you were asked what prompted the discussion about "modification" and "maximizing profit" especially considering that two of you have your measurements? Then you took offense. I

If you don't see the red flag there about modification and maximizing profit that prompted the word "collusion", so be it. I read through the same transcript and formed an opinion. Based on my experience here, I am not worried about dishonest people because they are quick to detect. I am worried about honest people who derail. I believe you know your craft and will not hesitate to give you a job strictly to fabricate if I have some.

Good luck.
/

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InvertedHammer:

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I have been on NL for years (since 2012). I have searched my soul and mind on why I would want to run you down. I couldn't come up with one reason. I can't identify you in a line up and I believe it is the same for you.

Read through the conversation you posted below. You said the Aluminum fabricator said he doesn't want to modify the measurements. Along the line you mentioned that they modify to maximize profit. Those are your words. And you were asked what prompted the discussion about "modification" and "maximizing profit" especially considering that two of you have your measurements? Then you took offense. I

If you don't see the red flag there about modification and maximizing profit that prompted the word "collusion", so be it. I read through the same transcript and formed an opinion. Based on my experience here, I am not worried about dishonest people because they are quick to detect. I am worried about honest people who derail. I believe you know your craft and will not hesitate to give you a job strictly to fabricate if I have some.

Good luck.
/

I see your bone of contention and thank you for bringing it to my attention. I will choose my words more carefully moving forward. But I intentions were very clear but I misspoke and misunderstood as well.

I will learn through this experience and thanks for being my teacher

Good morning my good people, I have just read up on the last 10 pages to understand what is really going on about window sizing, as it concerns the burglary measurements. I have to conclude that it's just a case of miscommunication.

Like many other people have mentioned in some posts back in these pages, it's very difficult for a connivance to happen between the window guys and the welders, if the plastering team is not involved to quickly dress in the work, besides, the window and burglary are usually still visible after a building is completed. So the client can still measure, and confirm that the right size was used.

I thank Oga InvertedHammer for pointing this out, he has been a pillar of support here, and I continue to appreciate his efforts to help we contractors and artisans with jobs and advice, please forgive him and give him more jobs, this issue doesn't seem to me to be what the aluminium window guy thinks. Thank you Sir.

@Michlins, please learn to explain to your clients exactly what you have in mind before collecting numbers and speaking to other artisans on the site. Again, explain yourself but dont stress it too much. Work more and talk less, somehow, your works will speak much louder than your talk. You have been doing well, keep it that way.

Thank you my good people, i have been enjoying and learning from all your contributions here on these pages, keep the ideas and explanations coming. May this year be much better for all of us than last year, may we witness many many more new contracts and projects this year. God bless us all.

michlins:


In my line of work, there's no established rules to follow. [s]Everyone works "as the spirit leads".[/s] So it's important that everyone works in unison to avoid errors.

Learn from the above bro. There are established rules and guidelines.

Always ask for as-built drawing or measurements from the builder, owner or the project manager whenever you’re engaged.

After you’ve asked, keep a record of whatever response you got. If they ask you to go and measure, note it. If they ask you to ask windows guy, note it. If they send you wrong measurements, note it.

Specification documents is key in all projects and it seems like something unimportant to most.

If 10 welders measure a house, they’ll give conflicting figures but the builder/engineer would never give a wrong measurement. If he did, it’s on him.

_____
Back to my earlier story, I told the welder to go and reduce all the burglary proof he made. You can imagine how much it’ll cost to reduce the size of 42 burglary proofs made with 16mm square rod.

He learnt the hard way.

In my contracts, it’s clearly written that the owner has the right to use anyone he likes but I wouldn’t give warranty on such job should problem arise.

_____
Pic 1 - my contracts always show the documents we are working on and the process to request for a change. So if you like, change your mind along the line without filling a change order form which shows the additions and the deletions, you have only made those changes in your mind and not in my contract with you.

I went ahead to share this few days ago. It’s very important.

Re-read

A big thanks for oga spyder's contribution and prayer.
#bringbackhajjmufuta55.

gbadexy:
A big thanks for oga spyder's contribution and prayer.
#bringbackhajjmufuta55.

Thank you Sir, I always enjoy your in depth knowledge of paints, screeding and all other allied materials. You are the best. I am hoping we will work together in a finish very soon.

@michlins here’s my recent conversation with someone here on a multi-million naira window project.

My first question was to ask for his windows schedule. After it was supplied, he told me the engineer made some adjustments though and he’ll send an adjusted one to work with.


Visiting the site is not always the first thing but having a specification document to work with.

n3xt:


Can you send designs without those lights? Thank you

I mean something for the minimalist

Do u construct bio-digester and bio-gas for your clients or you do the usual traditional type of septic tank and sockaway.

Which is better, if one has little or no understanding not how it works for a bio-digester?

RockOfAgesAlumi:

Okay
If you don't mind sir,
Tower
1200 x 1200=50k
900 x 1200=40k
600 x 600=25k

Thick imported
1200 x 1200=40k
900 x 1200=32k
600 x 600=20k
Thanks

With burglary and Net?

amosblisz:


Do u construct bio-digester and bio-gas for your clients or you do the usual traditional type of septic tank and sockaway.

Bio-digester is the way to go when nature gets in the way (when you’re working on a site with serious water issues). I’ve only done one installation in Ajah (pump and sell area). The guy who did it used to be here but I can’t find him anymore. I think the user ID is Biofil.

Make a search for that name or probably search for “brabus Biofil” on nairaland to read more.

Will I use it again? YES!

_____

His product had his company name and phone number. It’s unlike the ones you see up and down without nafdac number and he has a lot of reference sites to show you.

He does even far more for mini estates.

gbadexy:
A big thanks for oga spyder's contribution and prayer.
#bringbackhajjmufuta55.

Thanks for this

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Before we stage a protest at NL tollgate here.
I believed some pep remember about 12month ago or there about when almost Every notable fellow left this thread.
I make a post as this with almost every one names on the list then , thanks be to God they came back then.
Now it’s going back to same OLD way again.
Why.
Don't forget everyone gain from this thread and others personal thread.

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Thank you Sir, I always enjoy your in depth knowledge of paints, screeding and all other allied materials. You are the best. I am hoping we will work together in a finish very soon.

It would be my pleasure sir.

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michlins:
good morning bro. I want to you to read this with an open mind. Forget what you have heard prior and just try and reason with me here.

First I want to thank you for putting yourself on the line for me. Like I said sometime ago, it's not something most family members will do for us but here, strangers are helping out others grow financially and otherwise.

The job in question, I haven't submitted a quotation before I asked for the phone number of the alumaco guy. I told your friend the exact reason I wanted to speak with him. If I had sinister motives, I wouldn't have done that before getting the money. My experience has thought me better.

Seriously I don't know what you have heard and how the person that told you interpreted it for you but I just wish you will respond to me privately and I will show you everything including the VN of my discussion with your friend and the alumaco guy and you can judge me.

I did a job for a Nairalander Ty01 which I supplied last week. It's window burglaries. The measurements I was given was 4ft by 4ft and I went ahead to deduct 1" from it yet when he received it,it didn't fit at all. The engineer said "I should have known better". At the end of the day, the welder gets blamed because we're the least educated. From the pictures he sent me, I was supposed to deduct at least 4" from the windows but just imagine if I did that and the burglaries were too small. I will still be blamed for cheating the client. Now they will need to amend the burglaries to fit. However, there's no room for amendment in the job I was discussing with your friend.

In my line of work, there's no established rules to follow. Everyone works "as the spirit leads". So it's important that everyone works in unison to avoid errors.

Once again sir, I thank you for the opportunity.

Michlins, may the Lord give strength to your elbows.

michlins:
then you should do 36ft tall tank. Anything above that and the tank will look like a child that wear "oversized clothes" for Christmas. 36ft plus 1ft which will come from the base foundation is enough to give the water maximum pressure


Take a look at the attached picture

Michlins, Ne3xt et all

Please can you help out with the materials type especially the dimension/size of the H channel for use for a quality tank scafoold?

Ne3xt please contribute as well as other likeminds here with knowledge in this areas.

I am about to open a discussion with a welder and if i have a basic understanding of the materials and cost estimate it will enable me have a quality negotiation with the welder.

thanks all