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Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by franklytrue(m): 1:27pm On Feb 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
The three highlighted will continue to blur your insight spiritually!
Omnipresence means the person is everywhere but he made it clear in his word (Bible) that he is not everywhere, the account of Genesis 18:20-21 shows the omnipresence idea is untrue because God himself said "i heard some things about two cities I AM GOING THERE TO CONFIRM IF IT IS SO" undecided

The omnipotent is false because Abraham directly told God "i know you CAN'T DO this" {Genesis 18:23,25} Habakkuk said he's sure God CAN'T stand the sight of evil {Habakkuk 1:13} definitely there are many things people think God can do that he can't! Titus 1:2

The Omniscient should be solved if you consider the account of Genesis 6:6 God REGRET! And he said the idea of roasting people alive HAS NOT COME INTO HIS HEART {Jeremiah 7:31; 19:5} but humans are doing all of these. So he himself began to wonder are these the same creatures i made in my own image? Deuteronomy 32:5

God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley
God is going there AS A MAN to confirm something he heard about Sodom and Gomorrah, and execute His righteous judgement but God did not come AS A MAN (Jesus Christ) to do a greater work of salvation?

Abraham told God that He can't do this? LIES from your own bible! So it is Abraham that can dictate what God can do and cannot do? God is limited to what Abraham thinks He can do or cannot do?
This is what that passage of Scripture says, not what you stated from your amended bible for Abraham was asking questions not declaring a fact about the limits of God's power:

Genesis 18:23, 25 'And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
'
(see also Ezekiel 3:20-21)

You keep taking scriptures out of context. Burning people alive did not come into God's mind but He himself prepared everlasting fire for the devil and his angels? (Matt. 25:41) The same fire is for all sinners and liars like their father the devil. (Rev. 21:8-9, 2 Thess. 1:7-9)

Don't wish me peace that you don't have with God. I reject your kind of peace since it is not of the God whom you deny His power and greatness - His omniscience, omnipotence and omnipresence. (2 Tim. 3:5)

'Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.' - 2 John 1:9-11
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by haddeylium(m): 1:30pm On Feb 19, 2021
sonmvayina:
Not me...the jews are saying God promised to send them a messiah that wilk deliver them from tbeir enemies and help them build a temple where tbey can resume the sacrifice to tbeir God.
The romans came along, stole the idea and created a character in the person of jesus and ask you to worship him, and you are doing so and forcing other people to do so too. I am pointing out to you that according to the people that owns the initial idea...jesus is an idol.

What have i said that
Are you even listening to yourself? cheesy
Does anything matters to what is done to a fictional story?
it's not real afterall as you claimed cheesy

Rest! and be expecting your Messiah in a fiction book
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by haddeylium(m): 1:44pm On Feb 19, 2021
franklytrue:
God is going there AS A MAN to confirm something he heard about Sodom and Gomorrah, and execute His righteous judgement but God did not come AS A MAN (Jesus Christ) to do a greater work of salvation?
Zeal without. ....

So many verses do not fit into that hogwash doctrine.
Relate it with this

1 John 4:12
No one has seen God at any time
People saw Jesus right?

God cannot be tempted by evil (Jas 1:13)
Jesus was tempted by devil ?

Meditate on these two facts
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:44pm On Feb 19, 2021
I want to understand you.

The Torah that you always refer to, are the Jews living by it? smiley

sonmvayina:
I dont need to be a member of a group or cult to obey God's laws.
Do i need to be a jehovahs witness before i honour my father and mother or bear false witness against my neignour?
I dont need to...
You are in a cult, and you dont even know it.
You cant even think independently apart from what you have been indoctrinated to believe.
You cant even leave, even if you wanted to...
Define a cult for me..
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 2:28pm On Feb 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
I want to understand you.

The Torah that you always refer to, are the Jews living by it? smiley
Lol...very funny. So because people sleep with other people wife, means the laws of God is no longer valid...some people do, some dont. It does not make it invalid..That they dont does not mean they have to worship an idol(jesus). ..they understand it is an abomination before God to worship a man or anything in the likeness of something on earth.
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:33pm On Feb 19, 2021
The question is do you still know Jews living by those laws?

sonmvayina:
Lol...very funny. So because people sleep with other people wife, means the laws of God is no longer valid...some people do, some dont. It does not make it invalid..That they dont does not mean they have to worship an idol(jesus). ..they understand it is an abomination before God to worship a man or anything in the likeness of something on earth.
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 2:33pm On Feb 19, 2021
haddeylium:
Are you even listening to yourself? cheesy
Does anything matters to what is done to a fictional story?
it's not real afterall as you claimed cheesy

Rest! and be expecting your Messiah in a fiction book
I am only waiting for a leader God will send to bring peace and end all oppresion on earth, who will encourage America and other nuclear nation to melt their war arsenal and use it to produce ploughs and planters and harrows for agriculture. And teach humans to live in peace and learn real knowledge of God the creator.

You will welcome that, wont you?
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 2:36pm On Feb 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
The question is do you still know Jews living by those laws?
All of them...with a little fraction who are messianic jews.

Why do you think God is still protecting them from the enemies round them. If there werent, he would have sent their enemies to over run them, like he has always done.

This is one of the school on facebook that i belong and learning to follow God and his commandments.

Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:43pm On Feb 19, 2021
So are you also a worshiper of the Jewish God?

sonmvayina:
All of them...with a little fraction who are messianic jews.
Why do you think God is still protecting them from the enemies round them. If there werent, he would have sent their enemies to over run them, like he has always done.
This is one of the school on facebook that i belong and learning to follow God and his commandments.
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by franklytrue(m):
haddeylium:
Zeal without. ....

So many verses do not fit into that hogwash doctrine.
Relate it with this

1 John 4:12
No one has seen God at any time
People saw Jesus right?

God cannot be tempted by evil (Jas 1:13)
Jesus was tempted by devil ?

Meditate on these two facts
...Knowledge without the Spirit (the Author who inspires it) - 2 Pet. 1:21 [2 Cor. 3:6, Job 32:8]

You don't understand the context in which those scriptures were written.

When the LORD came as a man did Abraham not see Him? Or what did Abraham see? What did Moses see also in Mount Sinai there in the fearsome cloud?

People have seen God:
'And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.
And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.' - Exodus 24:11-12

People have tempted God:
'How oft did they provoke him in the wilderness, and grieve him in the desert!
Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.' - Psalms 78:40-41

Why are we admonished not to tempt the Lord our God if there was not such a possibility? (Matt. 4:7)

"I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes." - Job 42:5-6

God who in all His glory cannot be seen with man's naked eyes has manifested in the flesh. We can now relate more personally with Him in the person of Jesus Christ, His heir, for if you have seen Jesus you have seen the Father, for in him dwelleth the fulness of the Godhead bodily (John 14:6-15, Col. 1:19; ch 2:9)

This kingdom of God you want to be a part of, who will be the Ruler that you can relate to there? Who will be the One with the authority to govern there? Is it God in the greatness of His power and His glorious, awesome majesty or His Son (His heir) in the person of Jesus Christ, the KING OF KINGS, and LORD OF LORDS? (Rev. 19:16, 1 Tim. 6:14-16). The Father has committed ALL judgment unto the Son and ALL power in heaven and on earth has been given unto Him.
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 3:00pm On Feb 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
So are you also a worshiper of the Jewish God?
Lol, the jews worship the creator. They call him Hashem. I worship the creator . we igbos call him chukwu. Chukwu and Hashem are one and the same. His laws are universal. I have done a research and discovered that the our odinani and the jewish Torah is the same. Since it is the one i can readily lay my hands on. I decided to learn from it.
This is the other igbo group i belong too

Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:24pm On Feb 19, 2021
The highlighted!
Since it's a group is it also a CULT like JWs?


sonmvayina:
Lol, the jews worship the creator. They call him Hashem. I worship the creator . we igbos call him chukwu. Chukwu and Hashem are one and the same. His laws are universal. I have done a research and discovered that the our odinani and the jewish Torah is the same. Since it is the one i can readily lay my hands on. I decided to learn from it.
This is the other igbo group i belong too
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:38pm On Feb 19, 2021
Sonmvayina!

I asked you as you typed the highlighted "i BELONG"

Do you also think you are a CULT for belonging to a GROUP? undecided

sonmvayina:
Lol, the jews worship the creator. They call him Hashem. I worship the creator . we igbos call him chukwu. Chukwu and Hashem are one and the same. His laws are universal. I have done a research and discovered that the our odinani and the jewish Torah is the same. Since it is the one i can readily lay my hands on. I decided to learn from it.
This is the other igbo group i belong too
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:47pm On Feb 19, 2021
Helloooooooooo Sonmvayina!
I know you're still very much around, can you please correlate this two highlighted?
I think you typed the two today! cheesy


sonmvayina:
I dont need to be a member of a group or cult to obey God's laws.
Define a cult for me..
This is the other igbo group i belong too
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 4:11pm On Feb 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted!
Since it's a group is it also a CULT like JWs?
Lol..its an online forum or school..
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 4:12pm On Feb 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Helloooooooooo Sonmvayina!
I know you're still very much around, can you please correlate this two highlighted?
I think you typed the two today! cheesy
My bad...online school or forum..
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 4:14pm On Feb 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Sonmvayina!

I asked you as you typed the highlighted "i BELONG"

Do you also think you are a CULT for belonging to a GROUP? undecided
Igbo forum....its a school, we teach our selves Gods laws. And how it can be applied in oir daily lives and some exceptions...
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:49pm On Feb 19, 2021
Whether you meet online or offline, a group remains a group Sir!

Meanwhile that's exactly the same thing Jehovah's Witnesses also do but instead of Igbo forum, Yorùbá forum, Hausa forum, Chinese forum, American forum, European forum, or Arabian forum. It's a global preaching and teaching campaign that carries all races along on God's laws and how to apply it in our daily lives.

We try to meet together in the neighbourhood, we help one another to keep the spirit as one, we assist in distinguishing between those applying what we're learning from those who detests it and whenever anyone who has vowed to continue learning and applying those principles decides to quit we inform ourselves to sound the warning that Mr A or B is no longer part of the GROUP.

Since the beginning of the Pandemic we are also meeting online,

So is that what you've always refer to as CULT? smiley

sonmvayina:
Igbo forum....its a school, we teach our selves Gods laws. And how it can be applied in oir daily lives and some exceptions...
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 7:27pm On Feb 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Whether you meet online or offline, a group remains a group Sir!

Meanwhile that's exactly the same thing Jehovah's Witnesses also do but instead of Igbo forum, Yorùbá forum, Hausa forum, Chinese forum, American forum, European forum, or Arabian forum. It's a global preaching and teaching campaign that carries all races along on God's laws and how to apply it in our daily lives.

We try to meet together in the neighbourhood, we help one another to keep the spirit as one, we assist in distinguishing between those applying what we're learning from those who detests it and whenever anyone who has vowed to continue learning and applying those principles decides to quit we inform ourselves to sound the warning that Mr A or B is no longer part of the GROUP.

Since the beginning of the Pandemic we are also meeting online,

So is that what you've always refer to as CULT? smiley
But you guys still refer to jesus as a son of god, when he is an idol. God NEVER said through any of his prophet that he had a son or was sending him on a succide mission.
God said if you break my commandment and sin, repent and forsake, i will forgive. The psalmist says "A contrite heart , you will not spurn"...

God totally abhores human sacrifice. And time and time again he says he will not profane his comvenant. Why will he impregnate another man's wife? Is that not an insult on him?

That is what i have been pointing out that you are so blind to acknowledge.

There is just no where in the old testament tbat will give rise to the new., the only conclusion is that jesus is just a later invention. A sincere research will prove tbis. .why are you still holding on blindly in the face of tbis?

Here what emperior julian has to say..

"it is, I think, expedient to set forth to all mankind the reasons by which I was convinced that the fabrication of the Galilaeans is a fiction of men composed by wickedness. Though it has in it nothing divine, by making full use of that part of the soul which loves fable and is childish and foolish, it has induced men to believe that the monstrous tale is truth"

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/julian_apostate_galileans_1_text.htm
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by Ihedinobi3: 7:33pm On Feb 19, 2021
cosiocan:
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith,
Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee.
Psa 45:7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee
Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory,
Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God:
Hello sir.

Well, I would hope that you are right since it seems to me that that is exactly what the Bible says.

Given the trend of the thread though, I suspect that you are trying to argue that because Jesus calls the Father His God, He Himself is not God Himself.

Interestingly, the first verse you quoted in your post readily shows that this is not true.

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Hebrews 1:8 (KJV)

The speaker is obviously God the Father. And it is He who calls the Son God.

So, why do you post that and go on to take a position that appears to contradict it?

If the Bible says...

1. that God is One (Deuteronomy 6:4, for example);

2. that Jesus is God (Hebrews 1:8, for example);

3. that the Father is God (Hebrews 1:9, for example);

4. that the Holy Spirit is God (Hebrews 3:7-11, for example);

why then do you not conclude that Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are one God even if They are three separate Individuals?

That is the doctrine called the Trinity.

The doctrine is not that there is more than one God. It is that there are three Persons Who are all God without being three gods.

We can believe that or we can pretend that it is not true. But we can't actually make it true or false. It is only true if the Bible says that it is and false if the Bible says that it is.
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:03pm On Feb 19, 2021
You belong to a group the same way i belong to a group, you have your beliefs and i have mine, you were taught just as i was taught, your group keep spreading your beliefs just as mine also does, you strongly believe in what you were taught just as i also wholeheartedly believe what I was taught.
The only difference here is my own group are working throughout the globe and i can point to our works but yours are not doing anything with what you're learning. You keep hammering on the Torah yet your group has not killed any of your members as the Torah said defaulters should be stoned to death.
So it's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you have that matters not just the head knowledge that's not practicable anywhere Sir! smiley


sonmvayina:
But you guys still refer to jesus as a son of god, when he is an idol. God NEVER said through any of his prophet that he had a son or was sending him on a succide mission.
God said if you break my commandment and sin, repent and forsake, i will forgive. The psalmist says "A contrite heart , you will not spurn"...

God totally abhores human sacrifice. And time and time again he says he will not profane his comvenant. Why will he impregnate another man's wife? Is that not an insult on him?

That is what i have been pointing out that you are so blind to acknowledge.

There is just no where in the old testament tbat will give rise to the new., the only conclusion is that jesus is just a later invention. A sincere research will prove tbis. .why are you still holding on blindly in the face of tbis?

Here what emperior julian has to say..

"it is, I think, expedient to set forth to all mankind the reasons by which I was convinced that the fabrication of the Galilaeans is a fiction of men composed by wickedness. Though it has in it nothing divine, by making full use of that part of the soul which loves fable and is childish and foolish, it has induced men to believe that the monstrous tale is truth"

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/julian_apostate_galileans_1_text.htm
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 11:41pm On Feb 19, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
You belong to a group the same way i belong to a group, you have your beliefs and i have mine, you were taught just as i was taught, your group keep spreading your beliefs just as mine also does, you strongly believe in what you were taught just as i also wholeheartedly believe what I was taught.
The only difference here is my own group are working throughout the globe and i can point to our works but yours are not doing anything with what you're learning. You keep hammering on the Torah yet your group has not killed any of your members as the Torah said defaulters should be stoned to death.
So it's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you have that matters not just the head knowledge that's not practicable anywhere Sir! smiley
Suit yourself....i am done enlightening you. Keep on being blind and deaf to the fact that jesus is just an idol.

Is tbere a right way of doing the wrong thing? Answer me?
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by Galatians: 2:34am On Feb 20, 2021
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:56am On Feb 20, 2021
sonmvayina:
Suit yourself....i am done enlightening you. Keep on being blind and deaf to the fact that jesus is just an idol.
You only read the Bible in your GROUP you guys never studied the scriptures.
First of all what is an idol?
If you diligently study the scriptures, you will find out that idol worshipers are selfish, nepotists and racial so they're blind in the form of worship they choose, they don't think about the attributes of their God nor consider the benefits that comes along with their worship. But the worshipers of the true God knows that for them to benefit maximally from their worship they must think of what is there for one and all! Isaiah 1:18, 48:17-18
During the times when Israel turn to idolatry certain individuals amongst them remained faithful to God yet the whole nation suffered the consequences meaning true worship will bring benefits for the group in general! Deuteronomy 11:16-17


Is tbere a right way of doing the wrong thing? Answer me?
The wrong thing will never yield positivity, it never yielded any positive result back in the days of Israel. So if my group is globally bringing people together, nothing like Igbo or Hausa forum (racism) but indiscriminately working together as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Micah 4:1-3} my guy you are the blind one in this matter!

You belong to an Igbo forum but i belong to one global family! smiley
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 7:33am On Feb 20, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
You only read the Bible in your GROUP you guys never studied the scriptures.
First of all what is an idol?
If you diligently study the scriptures, you will find out that idol worshipers are selfish, nepotists and racial so they're blind in the form of worship they choose, they don't think about the attributes of their God nor consider the benefits that comes along with their worship. But the worshipers of the true God knows that for them to benefit maximally from their worship they must think of what is there for one and all! Isaiah 1:18, 48:17-18
During the times when Israel turn to idolatry certain individuals amongst them remained faithful to God yet the whole nation suffered the consequences meaning true worship will bring benefits for the group in general! Deuteronomy 11:16-17



The wrong thing will never yield positivity, it never yielded any positive result back in the days of Israel. So if my group is globally bringing people together, nothing like Igbo or Hausa forum (racism) but indiscriminately working together as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Micah 4:1-3} my guy you are the blind one in this matter!

You belong to an Igbo forum but i belong to one global family! smiley
So it does not matter who is at the centre of the religion as long as the followers are good...


What is the difference between you worshipping a man and not going to war and somebody from imo state who worships a snake and does not believe in going to war and doing some of the thibgs you dont do....

Read 2nd commandment of God and understand what an idol is...
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:54am On Feb 20, 2021
sonmvayina:
So it does not matter who is at the centre of the religion as long as the followers are good...
You talk about God and worship but failed to consider the attributes of the God you want to worship. It's the attributes of the God you're worshiping that tells which God not what you're saying with your mouth! smiley

What is the difference between you worshipping a man and not going to war and somebody from imo state who worships a snake and does not believe in going to war and doing some of the thibgs you dont do....
I am one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES you are just dodging the facts because you heard worshipers of Jesus refer to us as CULT so you joined them.
For your information know today that Jesus is not our God he is the model our God gave us so we are copying his lifestyle, he himself is a worshiper of our God not the God we worship! smiley

Read 2nd commandment of God and understand what an idol is...
Have you ever entered a Kingdom Hall in your life? Well let me tell you that you can't find a single image in our place of worship, unlike the churches of Christendom we don't even believe Jesus died on a cross, we don't use image in our worship so no cross! smiley

So before you talk first try to make a thorough investigation not just jumping to conclusion simply because a Jew told you Jesus never existed, they hate him so much due to the fact that their faithless ancestors were wicked racists and Jesus never supported Racism!
You've been talking about Igbo forum in connection with Jews definitely you must be follower of Nnamdi Kanu, know that he's just a politician that will soon expire with time and nothing is going to come out of his struggle because God has no plan for Racism rather a global family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4 smiley
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 11:36am On Feb 20, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
You talk about God and worship but failed to consider the attributes of the God you want to worship. It's the attributes of the God you're worshiping that tells which God not what you're saying with your mouth! smiley


I am one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES you are just dodging the facts because you heard worshipers of Jesus refer to us as CULT so you joined them.
For your information know today that Jesus is not our God he is the model our God gave us so we are copying his lifestyle, he himself is a worshiper of our God not the God we worship! smiley



Have you ever entered a Kingdom Hall in your life? Well let me tell you that you can't find a single image in our place of worship, unlike the churches of Christendom we don't even believe Jesus died on a cross, we don't use image in our worship so no cross! smiley

So before you talk first try to make a thorough investigation not just jumping to conclusion simply because a Jew told you Jesus never existed, they hate him so much due to the fact that their faithless ancestors were wicked racists and Jesus never supported Racism!
You've been talking about Igbo forum in connection with Jews definitely you must be follower of Nnamdi Kanu, know that he's just a politician that will soon expire with time and nothing is going to come out of his struggle because God has no plan for Racism rather a global family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4 smiley
Hmm, no wahala..when the time comes..you will understand.
Jerimiah 16:19
Zachariah 8:23
Isaiah 2:3
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by MaxInDHouse(m):
That's better!

Now you know there is nothing occultic in a group of people sharing the same line of thought.
Jeremiah 16:19
Oh Jehovah, my strength and my stronghold, my place to flee in the time of distress, to you the nations will come from the ends of the earth, and they will say: "our forefathers inherited utter falsehood, futility and useless things of no benefit"
People from different races throughout the earth have come together having known that our forefathers inherited idolatry and useless forms of worship that brings no benefit, but today there is lots and lots and lots of benefit we are enjoying in pure worship!

Zachariah 8:23

This is what Jehovah of army says 'in those days (our time) ten men out of all languages of the nations will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew saying "we want to go with you people for we have heard that God is with you people'"
Almost 9,000,000 people have come from different races and we are holding the robe of the spiritual Jews known today as anointed Christians (Born Again)

Isaiah 2:3

And many people will go and say: "Come let us go to the mountain of Jehovah (pure worship) to the house of the God of Jacob, He will instruct us about his ways, and we will walk in his path, for law will go out of Zion and the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem"

You just quoted the favourite scriptures of JWs!
Well we've gone round the world to proclaim the name of the God of Jacob and we are meditating on his ways and his path everyday.

But you omitted verse 4 which tells what will happen when this prophecy is fulfilled!

He will render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many people and they will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears, nations will not lift up swords (weapons) against nations and they will not learn war anymore!

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have successfully completed this assignment today!
So what we are waiting for now is when Jesus (Messiah) will come and destroy all those who refused to drop their weapons for PEACE! Daniel 2:44

I am an ex-military officer, when we go to make peace in any community the only people that we must not exterminate are those who have surrendered their weapons. So i fully understand this part of the scriptures! smiley

smiley


sonmvayina:
Hmm, no wahala..when the time comes..you will understand.
Jerimiah 16:19
Zachariah 8:23
Isaiah 2:3
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 12:29pm On Feb 20, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
That's better!

Now you know there is nothing occultic in a group of people sharing the same line of thought.
Jeremiah 16:19
Oh Jehovah, my strength and my stronghold, my place to flee in the time of distress, to you the nations will come from the ends of the earth, and they will say: "our forefathers inherited utter falsehood, futility and useless things of no benefit"
People from different races throughout the earth have come together having known that our forefathers inherited idolatry and useless forms of worship that brings no benefit, but today there is lots and lots and lots of benefit we are enjoying in pure worship!

Zachariah 8:23

This is what Jehovah of army says 'in those days (our time) ten men out of all languages of the nations will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew saying "we want to go with you people for we have heard that God is with you people'"
Almost 9,000,000 people have come from different races and we are holding the robe of the spiritual Jews known today as anointed Christians (Born Again)

Isaiah 2:3

And many people will go and say: "Come let us go to the mountain of Jehovah (pure worship) to the house of the God of Jacob, He will instruct us about his ways, and we will walk in his path, for law will go out of Zion and the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem"

You just quoted the favourite scriptures of JWs!
Well we've gone round the world to proclaim the name of the God of Jacob and we are meditating on his ways and his path everyday.

But you omitted verse 4 which tells what will happen when this prophecy is fulfilled!

He will render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many people and they will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears, nations will not lift up swords (weapons) against nations and they will not learn war anymore!

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have successfully completed this assignment today!
So what we are waiting for now is when Jesus (Messiah) will come and destroy all those who refused to drop their weapons for PEACE! Daniel 2:44

I am an ex-military officer, when we go to make peace in any community the only people that we must not exterminate are those who have surrendered their weapons. So i fully understand this part of the scriptures! smiley

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Do you guys teach people God's laws? As contained in the Torah. Or whst somebody who never met jesus said he said or what paul wrote to his friends??
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:41pm On Feb 20, 2021
sonmvayina:
Do you guys teach people God's laws?
As contained in the Torah.
The Torah was never part of God's plan in the beginning, it was added due to the fall of man.
Man only need the Torah like a mirror to see how dirty he is, that's why you can't just bring out your child and stone him to death today as the Torah says. We are to learn through the Torah what God detests, it's not to remain as the standard for all. That's why God only made the covenant with just one nation (Israel) if we're to take the Torah to the whole world it means people will be stoned to death on daily basis.

Or whst somebody who never met jesus said he said or what paul wrote to his friends??
The problem here is the unbelieving Jew that first met you!
You so much beleive the things he told you to the extent that you just don't want to listen to any other school of thought, yet what he taught is not practically applicable anywhere!
Jesus was a real person who once walked this planet and his disciples witnessed so many things he did including his assenssion to heaven.
The one and only group having that insight today are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that's why all the prophesies regarding nations coming under one umbrella and forming a global family of peace is fulfilling in the midst of JWs.

You can continue waiting for the Messiah those faithless Jews are expecting but let me tell you that the original Jews who occupied the place called Israel today in the world map has been misplaced and according to God's word they have lost the privilege given to them as the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
God now view obedient and faithful humans throughout the earth as Abraham's descendants today, it's no more because you are from Abraham's lineage but are you a faithful and loyal individual like Abraham?
If so God will relate with you just as he did with faithful Abraham and he sees you as Abraham's descendants not by blood but through your faith and loyalty! smiley
Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by sonmvayina(m): 2:46pm On Feb 20, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
The Torah was never part of God's plan in the beginning, it was added due to the fall of man.
Man only need the Torah like a mirror to see how dirty he is, that's why you can't just bring out your child and stone him to death today as the Torah says. We are to learn through the Torah what God detests, it's not to remain as the standard for all. That's why God only made the covenant with just one nation (Israel) if we're to take the Torah to the whole world it means people will be stoned to death on daily basis.


The problem here is the unbelieving Jew that first met you!
You so much beleive the things he told you to the extent that you just don't want to listen to any other school of thought, yet what he taught is not practically applicable anywhere!
Jesus was a real person who once walked this planet and his disciples witnessed so many things he did including his assenssion to heaven.
The one and only group having that insight today are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that's why all the prophesies regarding nations coming under one umbrella and forming a global family of peace is fulfilling in the midst of JWs.

You can continue waiting for the Messiah those faithless Jews are expecting but let me tell you that the original Jews who occupied the place called Israel today in the world map has been misplaced and according to God's word they have lost the privilege given to them as the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
God now view obedient and faithful humans throughout the earth as Abraham's descendants today, it's no more because you are from Abraham's lineage but are you a faithful and loyal individual like Abraham?
If so God will relate with you just as he did with faithful Abraham and he sees you as Abraham's descendants not by blood but through your faith and loyalty! smiley

Re: Jesus himself believes in One God his God by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:56pm On Feb 20, 2021
sonmvayina:
Torah
Covenant between God and Israel {Exodus 19:5} has nothing to do with other nations, by the time God promised to establish ANOTHER covenant that will involve other nations Torah will not be the standard anymore! Jeremiah 31:31-34 smiley
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