Myer:


Our discourse is not solely based on what you've said but what the bibke teaches. That being why I mentioned this.

Whether you admit it or not your Bible teaches you that except I believe in Jesus, I'm hell-bound.
Just like a Muslim believes except i believe in the prophet muhammed I'm hell-bound.

So my point being, you are only a victim of the religion you're exposed to which has shaped your perception of life and your judgment of it.

If God has ever spoken to you maybe that could justify you but all you know and belief is simply based on the book you believe to be inspired by God, the Bible. Just the same way a Muslim believes the Quran is inspired by God.

Is it not ironic that you both believe only your book is inspired by God?
I bet you believe the quran is the devil's book simply because you're not a Muslim.

Religion is really very ridiculous when you're detached from it.

Bro, you are yet to speak up what your real issue is. You are yet to come out plainly about your pains and issues. When you are ready, you know I will be here available for you to help. But before then, I am not ready to go in the direction you are going.

I believe in doing all things unto edification not unto destruction.

Myer:


Atleast you're our Apo-stle.

And while NL may have contributed to this, you do know that apostasy is way beyond NL.

You should be more worried that it's easy for a Christian to lose his Christianity on NL. Does that not prove that darkness has comprehended the light? Lol

Bro, you are reading all my text from a mirror view. Better turn your phone properly.

Who is talking about apostate on nairaland? Lol. What we have mostly on nairaland are set of confused believers who likewise have refused to receive proper learning and end of claiming apostate or atheist. Apostate that can be flogged within a seconds of humility.

See, the solution to confusion is proper learning not stronghead. And the indices to this is humility and simplicity of heart. Start from this very point.

hoopernikao:




Bro, you are reading all my text from a mirror view. Better turn your phone properly.

Who is talking about apostate on nairaland? Lol. What we have mostly on nairaland are set of confused believers who likewise have refused to receive proper learning and end of claiming apostate or atheist. Apostate that can be flogged within a seconds of humility.

See, the solution to confusion is proper learning not stronghead. And the indices to this is humility and simplicity of heart. Start from this very point.

Whether mirror or glass, I'm reading what the Bible says. Your interpretation is simply based on your belief that everything the Bible says God does is good. When God himself says he can kill and make alive, wounds and heals as he pleases. Deut 32:39-43
Even when God destroyed Adam and Eve simply due to their ignorance, not warning them of any form of evil.

Or when God blessed both Isaac and Ishmael which has led to the Christian and Muslim wars that have destroyed countless lives till date.

Or when God destroyed Job and his family just to win a bet with Satan. Even though the bible said God restored Job, I wonder what his original family that God allowed Satan to destroy would think about this.

Or when God rejected Saul simply for deciding to spare some lives of children, women and cattle instead of destroying everything. In case that went over your head, God was against sparing any form of life- both human (children and women) and cattle.

Did you read how God allowed Moses not to enter promised land cos he was angry people disobeyed God? Imagine God who gets angry that we disobey him now punishing you for being angry for his course to the point that the devil almost claimed the body of Moses?

I hope you read where God allowed Joseph to be killed even after restoring Israel back to God just because he was fought against an ungodly nation.

Pls read the story of Eli and see how God rejected him because of the sins of his children and all his service to God was not even remembered?

Of course there are other examples if you would only read your Bible.

When you realise that your faith in Christ as a Christian is no different for a Muslim's faith in Allah and Muhammed maybe it won't be too late for you to realise you're just another victim of religion.

Myer:


Whether mirror or glass, I'm reading what the Bible says. Your interpretation is simply based on your belief that everything the Bible says God does is good. When God himself says he can kill and make alive, wounds and heals as he pleases. Deut 32:39-43
Even when God destroyed Adam and Eve simply due to their ignorance, not warning them of any form of evil.

Or when God blessed both Isaac and Ishmael which has led to the Christian and Muslim wars that have destroyed countless lives till date.

Or when God destroyed Job and his family just to win a bet with Satan. Even though the bible said God restored Job, I wonder what his original family that God allowed Satan to destroy would think about this.

Or when God rejected Saul simply for deciding to spare some lives of children, women and cattle instead of destroying everything. In case that went over your head, God was against sparing any form of life- both human (children and women) and cattle.

Did you read how God allowed Moses not to enter promised land cos he was angry people disobeyed God? Imagine God who gets angry that we disobey him now punishing you for being angry for his course to the point that the devil almost claimed the body of Moses?

I hope you read where God allowed Joseph to be killed even after restoring Israel back to God just because he was fought against an ungodly nation.

Pls read the story of Eli and see how God rejected him because of the sins of his children and all his service to God was not even remembered?

Of course there are other examples if you would only read your Bible.

When you realise that your faith in Christ as a Christian is no different for a Muslim's faith in Allah and Muhammed maybe it won't be too late for you to realise you're just another victim of religion.

There are so much of error in this writeup that i don't even know where to start from. The best place to start from will be to admonish you to open your heart to learning and reading properly. I have consistently tell you this and it will profit you if you take this.

It will be good if you avoid speaking about scriptures for now till you can fully grasp the progressive approach and explanation of the scriptures. Please do.

hoopernikao:


There are so much of error in this writeup that i don't even know where to start from. The best place to start from will be to admonish you to open your heart to learning and reading properly. I have consistently tell you this and it will profit you if you take this.

It will be good if you avoid speaking about scriptures for now till you can fully grasp the progressive approach and explanation of the scriptures. Please do.

Lol great advice. Let's not speak of the "mistakes and evils" of God in the Bible. Let's only talk about the good side.

But do you know God admitted making mistake?
When the Bible says "it repented God that he created man" just before the flood, what is your meaning of this?

Honestly, just as it's impossible to convince a victim of abuse that her batterer husband is evil because she's blinded by love, I don't expect to convince you. I'm only speaking as someone who is unbiased and irreligious about the Bible. Love is beyond Christianity and it's blindening. Be it the love of romance, religion, money, friendship, etc.

You know this discussion we've been having for months now would easily reach a valid conclusion if only you can manifest the gifts of the spirit since you already know that's my major bone of contention.

But I know you'll always have an evasive response that will only drag this further.

Myer:


Lol great advice. Let's not speak of the "mistakes and evils" of God in the Bible. Let's only talk about the good side.

But do you know God admitted making mistake?
When the Bible says "it repented God that he created man" just before the flood, what is your meaning of this?

Honestly, just as it's impossible to convince a victim of abuse that her batterer husband is evil because she's blinded by love, I don't expect to convince you. I'm only speaking as someone who is unbiased and irreligious about the Bible. Love is beyond Christianity and it's blindening. Be it the love of romance, religion, money, friendship, etc.

You know this discussion we've been having for months now would easily reach a valid conclusion if only you can manifest the gifts of the spirit since you already know that's my major bone of contention.

But I know you'll always have an evasive response that will only drag this further.

Your submission is still full of error of improper reading. You aren't listening to that. When you are ready to start reading properly I will be available to help.

You are still reading the scriptures like someone reading Facebook post. That's why you are getting your misinterpretation.

Bible interpretation is a serious matter. The scriptures acceptance and understanding is not based on emojis or retweets like social media posts. It rest on humble heart and a diligent spirit. I am not sure social medialist like you appreciate such. But I trust God for you, to see the light of His words.

hoopernikao:


Your submission is still full of error of improper reading. You aren't listening to that. When you are ready to start reading properly I will be available to help.

You are still reading the scriptures like someone reading Facebook post. That's why you are getting your misinterpretation.

Bible interpretation is a serious matter. The scriptures acceptance and understanding is not based on emojis or retweets like social media posts. It rest on humble heart and a diligent spirit. I am not sure social medialist like you appreciate such. But I trust God for you, to see the light of His words.

As I predicted, your ever evasive prowess manifests in it's glory once again. The issue here is not even my interpretation. Do you manifest the gifts of the spirit as the Bible says these signs will follow those who believe? Mark 16:17

Jesus Christ himself said this.
Unless you people see signs and wonders," Jesus told him, "you will never believe." John 4:48

You already know my bone of contention. Neither Jesus nor his disciples demanded that people before performing signs and wonders.
Of course believing without signs is good and shows faith. But it doesn't negate the place of signs.

So why then is it so difficult for you to simply manifest the signs and wonders?

All these epistles would have been unnecessary if only you could.
You should be more concerned if you're following a different Jesus, if you can't manifest any of these signs he promised. Just saying.

Yes.
From different perspectives
The Christians see The Face of God daily
The Muslim see The Back of God.

Yes.
From different perspectives
The Christians see The Face of God daily
The Muslim see The Back of God.

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orunto27:
Yes.

From different perspectives

The Christians see The Face of God daily

The Muslim see The Back of God.

How does the face of God look like is he black or white?..

1 John 4
12 No man has at any time [yet] seen God. But if we love one another, God abides (lives and remains) in us and His love (that love which is essentially His) is brought to completion (to its full maturity, runs its full course, is perfected) in us!

Hope you are not seeing this actor sha?

Numbers 23
19 God is not a man, that He should tell or act a lie, neither the son of man, that He should feel repentance or compunction [for what He has promised]. Has He said and shall He not do it? Or has He spoken and shall He not make it good?

orunto27:
Yes.

From different perspectives

The Christians see The Face of God daily

The Muslim see The Back of God.

I don't know why this is just funny.
At least you agree its the same God.

haekymbahd:


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How does the face of God look like is he black or white?..

1 John 4
12 No man has at any time [yet] seen God. But if we love one another, God abides (lives and remains) in us and His love (that love which is essentially His) is brought to completion (to its full maturity, runs its full course, is perfected) in us!

Hope you are not seeing this actor sha?

Numbers 23
19 God is not a man, that He should tell or act a lie, neither the son of man, that He should feel repentance or compunction [for what He has promised]. Has He said and shall He not do it? Or has He spoken and shall He not make it good?

I guess you're a Muslim going by your moniker. Impressive counter verse there.

The Truth is even Jesus never said Jews were worshipping a different God. But Christians will tell you as far as it's not Jesus, you're not worshipping God but the devil.

Even Paul went to Athens and saw them worshipping an unknown God. He did not condemn their God but simply introduced that unknown God to them as the same God he's preaching to them. Though he later commanded that they must worship God through Jesus.

The truth is religion is divisive.

Just as Quran condemns anyone who doesn't worship Allah as infidels, Christianity also condemns unbelievers in Jesus as hell-bound.

Interestingly Judaism likewise used to condemn any non-jew as unclean and Gentiles until God decided through Peter that he has changed his mind and they were no longer unclean thanks to Jesus.lol

I guess we can't blame anyone for defending their religion. As long as it's not done violently.

Myer:


I guess you're a Muslim going by your moniker. Impressive counter verse there.

The Truth is even Jesus never said Jews were worshipping a different God. But Christians will tell you as far as it's not Jesus, you're not worshipping God but the devil.

Even Paul went to Athens and saw them worshipping an unknown God. He did not condemn their God but simply introduced that unknown God to them as the same God he's preaching to them. Though he later commanded that they must worship God through Jesus.

The truth is religion is divisive.

Just as Quran condemns anyone who doesn't worship Allah as infidels, Christianity also condemns unbelievers in Jesus as hell-bound.

Interestingly Judaism likewise used to condemn any non-jew as unclean and Gentiles until God decided through Peter that he has changed his mind and they were no longer unclean thanks to Jesus.lol

I guess we can't blame anyone for defending their religion. As long as it's not done violently.

Neither did Allah say Jews and Christians and muslims are worshipping a different God. The Quran is saying if they people of the scripture do not stick to the commandment given to them in Torah and Gospel they are in for doom.. i tell you the message of the Quran is clear don't worship any other deity except God alone....

Allah SWT said:

"This [Qur'an] is notification for the people that they may be warned thereby and that they may know that He is but one God and that those of understanding will be reminded."
(QS. Ibrahim 14: Verse 52)

"They have certainly disbelieved who say, Allah is the third of three. And there is no god except one God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 73)

"Say, O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord. And that which has been revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in transgression and disbelief. So do not grieve over the disbelieving people."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 68)

"Indeed, those who have believed [in Prophet Muhammad] and those [before Him] who were Jews or Sabeans or Christians - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 69)

"We had already taken the covenant of the Children of Israel and had sent to them messengers. Whenever there came to them a messenger with what their souls did not desire, a party [of messengers] they denied, and another party they killed."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 70)

Mathew 23

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, murdering the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would I have gathered your children together as a mother fowl gathers her brood under her wings, and you refused!

38 Behold, your house is forsaken and desolate (abandoned and left destitute of God's help). [I Kings 9:7; Jer. 22:5.]

39 For I declare to you, you will not see Me again until you say, Blessed (magnified in worship, adored, and exalted) is He Who comes in the name of the Lord!(F)

Allah says

"And to Allah belong the best names, so invoke Him by them. And leave [the company of] those who practice deviation concerning His names. They will be recompensed for what they have been doing."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 180)

"And recite to them, [O Muhammad], the news of him to whom we gave [knowledge of] Our signs, but he detached himself from them; so Satan pursued him, and he became of the deviators."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 175)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com


All prophet of God came with same message
Mark 12
29 Jesus answered, The first and principal one of all commands is: Hear, O Israel, The Lord our God is one Lord;

deutronomy 6
4 Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God is one Lord [the only Lord].

5 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your [mind and] heart and with your entire being and with all your might.

6 And these words which I am commanding you this day shall be [first] in your [own] minds and hearts; [then]

if Christians say Jesus is Lord and Jesus is not the father then that contradicts the first commandment.. Hence we don't worship the same God..

Myer:


As I predicted, your ever evasive prowess manifests in it's glory once again. The issue here is not even my interpretation. Do you manifest the gifts of the spirit as the Bible says these signs will follow those who believe? Mark 16:17

Jesus Christ himself said this.
Unless you people see signs and wonders," Jesus told him, "you will never believe." John 4:48

You already know my bone of contention. Neither Jesus nor his disciples demanded that people before performing signs and wonders.
Of course believing without signs is good and shows faith. But it doesn't negate the place of signs.

So why then is it so difficult for you to simply manifest the signs and wonders?

All these epistles would have been unnecessary if only you could.
You should be more concerned if you're following a different Jesus, if you can't manifest any of these signs he promised. Just saying.

Bro morning.

Dont be driven far,

Read this statement very well: BIBLE INTERPRETATION IS EVERYTHING ABOUT BIBLE DISCUSSION.

For example, all you wrote up there is still your interpretation of the scriptures. So you cant shy away from interpretation in all your submissions from the scriptures. But a true bible study and interpretation must access and present the mind and the intent of the original writers not a manipulation of their texts.

So, my all time point for you is that, you have a very bad view and interpretation of the scriptures. Either it stem from point of deliberate manipulation, carelessness or ignorance, this i am yet to ascertain.

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But i will stay with carelessness (lack of proper reading). Hence, the reason i asked you always to read properly before concluding.

In this tread alone, you have raised so many doctrines that will fall flat in the face of proper reading and scrutiny. But i am not ready to do that for now as i found out there is a more fundamental issue to your scriptures misinterpretation than just what you writes. It is a belief issue.

A fundamental facts of believing the scriptures you read is missing from your heart. That alone opens you up for all forms of manipulations and misjudgment of the texts and its inspiration.

This is what needs to be addressed.

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hoopernikao:



Bro morning.

Dont be driven far,

Read this statement very well: BIBLE INTERPRETATION IS EVERYTHING ABOUT BIBLE DISCUSSION.

For example, all you wrote up there is still your interpretation of the scriptures. So you cant shy away from interpretation in all your submissions from the scriptures. But a true bible study and interpretation must access and present the mind and the intent of the original writers not a manipulation of their texts.

So, my all time point for you is that, you have a very bad view and interpretation of the scriptures. Either it stem from point of deliberate manipulation, carelessness or ignorance, this i am yet to ascertain.

---

But i will stay with carelessness (lack of proper reading). Hence, the reason i asked you always to read properly before concluding.

In this tread alone, you have raised so many doctrines that will fall flat in the face of proper reading and scrutiny. But i am not ready to do that for now as i found out there is a more fundamental issue to your scriptures misinterpretation than just what you writes. It is a belief issue.

A fundamental facts of believing the scriptures you read is missing from your heart. That alone opens you up for all forms of manipulations and misjudgment of the texts and its inspiration.

This is what needs to be addressed.

Ok I agree interpretation is everything. My interpretation is poor, thanks.

Now to signs and wonders. Biko help us heal some of the sick both online and offline.

Thank you sir.

Myer:


Ok I agree interpretation is everything. My interpretation is poor, thanks.

Now to signs and wonders. Biko help us heal some of the sick both online and offline.

Thank you sir.

Good, so now that you agreed that your interpretation is poor, you need to firstly humbly apologise for dragging all through and presenting the scriptures falsely. Then I await your apology too for taking my time before your confession

Do this for your own good o. �

Myer:


Ok I agree interpretation is everything. My interpretation is poor, thanks.

Now to signs and wonders. Biko help us heal some of the sick both online and offline.

Thank you sir.

Are you one of the sick or you supervise a sick ward?

hoopernikao:


Good, so now that you agreed that your interpretation is poor, you need to firstly humbly apologise for dragging all through and presenting the scriptures falsely. Then I await your apology too for taking my time before your confession

Do this for your own good o. �

Spiritual pride is when you can't even admit that you have never been used to heal anyone.

From the very time I asked you to share your testimony on here, you've employed more evasive tactics than a taichi master.
In case pastoring doesn't work out, you'll certainly make an excellent politician.

My emphasis on healing and spiritual gifts is, it is what confirms that Christianity is not just another religion.
It is what confirms you're not just ever studying and never coming to knowledge, speaking empty words.

As Paul aptly said,

1 Cor 2:4-6 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.

Likewise Jesus rightly answered John the Baptist, when he doubted him;

Luke 7:22 So he replied to the messengers, "Go back and report to John what you have seen and heard: The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is proclaimed to the poor.

This being a confirmation that when the Spirit of the Lord is upon you, signs follow. Isaiah 61:1

So as you see my friend, until you manifest the gifts of the Spirit as well as the fruit, you're at best just practising religion and not manifesting the life of Christ.

I leave you to chew on that and let it ruminate.

Myer:


Spiritual pride is when you can't even admit that you have never been used to heal anyone.

From the very time I asked you to share your testimony on here, you've employed more evasive tactics than a taichi master.
In case pastoring doesn't work out, you'll certainly make an excellent politician.

My emphasis on healing and spiritual gifts is, it is what confirms that Christianity is not just another religion.
It is what confirms you're not just ever studying and never coming to knowledge, speaking empty words.

As Paul aptly said,

1 Cor 2:4-6 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.

Likewise Jesus rightly answered John the Baptist, when he doubted him;

Luke 7:22 So he replied to the messengers, "Go back and report to John what you have seen and heard: The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is proclaimed to the poor.

This being a confirmation that when the Spirit of the Lord is upon you, signs follow. Isaiah 61:1

So as you see my friend, until you manifest the gifts of the Spirit as well as the fruit, you're at best just practising religion and not manifesting the life of Christ.

I leave you to chew on that and let it ruminate.

1. I asked you a question you haven't answer, do you need healing or you supervise a sick ward?

2. You can also help me share a scripture where Jesus shared his experience on healing the sick or Paul sharing his, since you want a sharing formula
You so much focus on what is not to miss what is.

hoopernikao:


1. I asked you a question you haven't answer, do you need healing or you supervise a sick ward?

2. You can also help me share a scripture where Jesus shared his experience on healing the sick or Paul sharing his, since you want a sharing formula
You so much focus on what is not to miss what is.

The very post you quoted answers your question.

Myer:


The very post you quoted answers your question.

You asked him to show signs how authentic is the verse mark 16 vs 17-18 i doubt he would be able to show you the signs... Let him drink sniper so that you can confirm if Jesus truly said those words... it was a corrupted verse that was inserted into the gospel of mark and it is not found in the early manuscript

Mark 16
17 And these attesting signs will accompany those who believe: in My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new languages;

18 They will pick up serpents; and [even] if they drink anything deadly, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will get well.


Although the vast majority of later Greek manuscripts contain Mark 16:9-20, the Gospel of Mark ends at verse 8 in two of the oldest and most respected manuscripts, the Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus. As the oldest manuscripts are known to be the most accurate because there were fewer generations of copies from the original autographs (i.e., they are much closer in time to the originals), and the oldest manuscripts do not contain vv. 9-20, we can conclude that these verses were added later by scribes. The King James Version of the Bible, as well as the New King James, contains vv. 9-20 because the King James used medieval manuscripts as the basis of its translation. Since 1611, however, older and more accurate manuscripts have been discovered and they affirm that vv. 9-20 were not in the original Gospel of Mark.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Mark-16-9-20.html

enilove:
We don't worship the same God.

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Christians can face anywhere to worship their God .
Muslims must face the kabah to worship their God .

Well Yahwe the God of Jews thinks otherwise, i dont know about Jesus the God of the trinitarian christians

According to (1 King 8 vs 44-45) RSV. "If thy people go out to battle against their enemy, whatever, thou shalt sent them, and shall pray unto the Lord toward the city (Jerusalem) which thou hast chosen, and towards the house that I have built for thy name, then hear thou in heaven their prayer and their supplication, and maintain their cause".

Again let us take a look at another verse in the Bible (Daniel 6 vs 10) "Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his house, and his window been open in his chamber towards Jerusalem, he kneeled upon his kneels three times a day, and prayed, and gave thanks before his God, as he did before. Then these men assembled, and found Daniel praying and making supplication before his God".

(Psalm 5 vs 7) ASV. "I will worship towards thy Holy Temple, and praise thy name for thy loving kindness and for thy truth, for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name".

Myer:


The very post you quoted answers your question.

Invisible answers?
Did you write the answers with UV pen or infrared keyboard?

hoopernikao:


Invisible answers?
Did you write the answers with UV pen or infrared keyboard?

I know you're just being evasive as always but let me indulge you yet again.

I quoted where Jesus responded to John's disciples that they could all see the signs viz healing the sick, blind seeing, etc.

I quoted where Paul said he did not come speaking just words but by display of the Power of the Spirit.

Why you find it difficult to share one single testimony of healing here is simply a confirmation of my stand that Christianity is just another religion. Apparently you've spent time learning the word. I would expect you to have countless testimonies of how God has healed the sick as you shared the word with them.
Or how souls have been saved on this platform through your threads.

But rather you've employed every evasive tactic in the book.
You accuse me of Strawman here where as it's you who has been doing that all along.

Just share 1 testimony, is that not what it means to be witnesses of Christ?

Myer:


I know you're just being evasive as always but let me indulge you yet again.

I quoted where Jesus responded to John's disciples that they could all see the signs viz healing the sick, blind seeing, etc.

I quoted where Paul said he did not come speaking just words but by display of the Power of the Spirit.

Why you find it difficult to share one single testimony of healing here is simply a confirmation of my stand that Christianity is just another religion. Apparently you've spent time learning the word. I would expect you to have countless testimonies of how God has healed the sick as you shared the word with them.
Or how souls have been saved on this platform through your threads.

But rather you've employed every evasive tactic in the book.
You accuse me of Strawman here where as it's you who has been doing that all along.

Just share 1 testimony, is that not what it means to be witnesses of Christ?

You see, pay attention again here. A man's theology is the fulcrum of all his actions and deeds. This also is the driver of your thoughts and intents. This is where you have missed it. And again you missed it up there.

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You quoted Paul, yet out of context. Paul never talked of Power as miracles in 1 Cor 2:4, go and READ PROPERLY. He is referring to the message of the gospel. The preaching not a miracle or wonders. The effectiveness of the preaching, he called it spiritpower. He already explained to you in 1Cor 1:18-31, the preaching is God's power, speaking about salvation.

Your explanation missed the anchor words of the chapters. Paul repeatedly state, PREACH, TEACHETH, PREACHING, TEACHING, all through chapter 1 and 2 but you missed that. This is the very thing I have been correcting you on here to follow context not snippet of verses and I trust God you will yield.

You are always missing the context and has been your undoing and affecting your motives and knowledge. Take this well, as you will observe, unlike me, I want to avoid doing any scriptural text explanation here, I want you to be the one to go back and read things again this time.


Jesus, you mentioned too, didn't give testimony of healing, the audience do. Except you show me a single scriptures where Jesus did such or the Apostles. So, since you want to be an audience, go on the streets of men, or move around the body of Christ, you will have what you seek. The church isn't called to showmanship but to saving of lives. Hence, the sharing of experience on miracles will be left to you as a spectator. Because those are who shared such in the scriptures.

So Bro, miracles abound everywhere, take up your cloak and walk around to spectate.

haekymbahd:

You asked him to show signs how authentic is the verse mark 16 vs 17-18 i doubt he would be able to show you the signs... Let him drink sniper so that you can confirm if Jesus truly said those words... it was a corrupted verse that was inserted into the gospel of mark and it is not found in the early manuscript

Mark 16
17 And these attesting signs will accompany those who believe: in My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new languages;

18 They will pick up serpents; and [even] if they drink anything deadly, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will get well.


Although the vast majority of later Greek manuscripts contain Mark 16:9-20, the Gospel of Mark ends at verse 8 in two of the oldest and most respected manuscripts, the Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus. As the oldest manuscripts are known to be the most accurate because there were fewer generations of copies from the original autographs (i.e., they are much closer in time to the originals), and the oldest manuscripts do not contain vv. 9-20, we can conclude that these verses were added later by scribes. The King James Version of the Bible, as well as the New King James, contains vv. 9-20 because the King James used medieval manuscripts as the basis of its translation. Since 1611, however, older and more accurate manuscripts have been discovered and they affirm that vv. 9-20 were not in the original Gospel of Mark.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Mark-16-9-20.html

God bless you, haekymbahd.
Na their Pastorpreneurs DECEIVE them.
In another thread, this is same point I had explained to KNOWMORE56.

Janosky:

God bless you, haekymbahd.
Na their Pastorpreneurs DECEIVE them.
In another thread, this is same point I had explained to KNOWMORE56.

And up till now you've not told us your preferred version, which means you know that the KJV remains the best...

KNOWMORE56:


And up till now you've not told us your preferred version, which means you know that the KJV remains the best...

Do you agree that there are versions of the Bible that contradict the original text?

I had to find the hebrew-english Bible when I realised that even KJV and NKJV contradicted each other in some core verses.

Myer:


Do you agree that there are versions of the Bible that contradict the original text?

I had to find the hebrew-english Bible when I realised that even KJV and NKJV contradicted each other in some core verses.

contradict? No there's nothing like that