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CoronaVirusRelo:
True! But the green light is the cause of the surge. Trump in that point, even though mishandled, sent a clear message and we know surge would never have happened during Trump.

Biden's green light is not helping matters. That's his only policy I just don't buy.

Surge happened during Trump's era too hence the cages children and women were put into. The difference is dealing with the immigration policy in humane ways not to deal with these people like animals. If Nigeria is next door neighbor to US, it will be worse.

budaatum:
But surge did happen under trump! Or have you conveniently forgotten the caravans?

And note how you say "Biden's green light" while the right are accusing him of locking them up! Lol.

I hope you current about the recent surge. It's no hidden news. If 700% does not scare you, it does scare lots. The overflow in Trump's administration is backlogged, and recent happenings is only compounding issues.

Pelosi was trying to address the crisis at the southern boarder meaning she knows it's really going bad. To the extent, that ICE is seeking volunteers.

It's that bad!

CoronaVirusRelo:
I hope you current about the recent surge. It's no hidden news. If 700% does not scare you, it does scare lots. The overflow in Trump's administration is backlogged, and recent happenings is only compounding issues.

Pelosi was trying to address the crisis at the southern boarder meaning she knows it's really going bad. To the extent, that ICE is seeking volunteers.

It's that bad!

Read what PrideofLincoln wrote. If you think of it, it's the same reason Northerners and cattle herders are fleeing from boko haram in the North to the relatively safe South.

In the future that 700% will become tsunamis of like 7000%, as the economies of the countries they are coming from become much worse relative to the one they are fleeing too, and walls will not keep them out.

budaatum:
No! I do not agree in keeping people in ignorance and slavery! That's what has been done to people in the North of Nigeria, and now that their ignorance is disturbing us down South is when we too have begun wailing in pain. If we had bothered to go and free them with education all these years, they would not be thorns in our sides today, and they will not stop being thorns in our side until we do help them free themselves from the slavery of ignorance that binds them.

That's why I like HellVictorinho, though he is insufficiently knowledgeable enough to recognise that fact. He fears no evil, and with just a tiny bit more understanding on his part, greater things will he eventually do, so I encourage him daily despite all his attempts to scuttle the hope and faith I have in him.

We will not be unleashing a pack of wolves. We will build up powerful people instead.

PrideofLincoln1:
Surge happened during Trump's era too hence the cages children and women were put into. The difference is dealing with the immigration policy in humane ways not to deal with these people like animals. If Nigeria is next door neighbor to US, it will be worse.

Surge during Trump's era was not ofnthis magnitude.

ICE was not recruiting volunteers at this rate, if they ever did. And decongestion by release did not happen. It's happening now.

All this migrants have one clear thing in mind, and it was instigated by Biden's stance. At this pace, in weeks time, we would be discussing a more complex challenge at that boarder.

budaatum:
Read what PrideofLincoln wrote. If you think of it, it's the same reason Northerners and cattle herders are fleeing from boko haram in the North to the relatively safe South.

In the future that 700% will become tsunamis of like 7000%, as the economies of the countries they are coming from become much worse relative to the one they are fleeing too, and walls will not keep them out.

And that should be normal? That will lead to infrastructural collapse which also will be a threat to citizens.

I told someone with regards to Texas that if the $15 dollar wage is passed, it will only take more lower class citizens out of job. And this same surge would only fuel it.

The Biden administration is not making a clear-cut statement to deter illegal immigrants. It's more of encouragement, which is wrong.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Surge during Trump's era was not ofnthis magnitude.

ICE was not recruiting volunteers at this rate, if they ever did. And decongestion by release did not happen. It's happening now.

All this migrants have one clear thing in mind, and it was instigated by Biden's stance. At this pace, in weeks time, we would be discussing a more complex challenge at that boarder.

The surge of immigrants into America is proportional to how bad the economies of the countries the surge is coming from are doing, and if America is giving almost £2k relief to its own citizens, you must realise those in the neighbouring countries with no 2k must be doing really badly indeed.

Corona, would you remain in Guatemala without vaccine and starve to death if you can get over the border to America for some of that 2k?

CoronaVirusRelo:
And that should be normal? That will lead to infrastructural collapse which also will be a threat to citizens.

I told someone with regards to Texas that if the $15 dollar wage is passed, it will only take more lower class citizens out of job. And this same surge would only fuel it.

The Biden administration is not making a clear-cut statement to deter illegal immigrants. It's more of encouragement, which is wrong.

There's nothing normal about any of this! And it's not true that Biden is encouraging illegal immigrants! And saying so is about as ignorant as claiming Buhari is encouraging Fulani kidnappings, and I will not agree that you, personally, and specifically, can possibly be that dumb!

CoronaVirusRelo, I am emphatically refusing to accept that you can at this point in time have possibly swallowed a qanon pill and I am prepared to argue you haven't unless you convince me otherwise which I warn you now is almost impossible!

budaatum:
There's nothing normal about any of this! And it's not true that Biden is encouraging illegal immigrants! And saying so is about as ignorant as claiming Buhari is encouraging Fulani kidnappings, and I will not agree that you, personally, and specifically, can possibly be that dumb!

CoronaVirusRelo, I am emphatically refusing to accept that you can at this point in time have possibly swallowed a qanon pill and I am prepared to argue you haven't unless you convince me otherwise which I warn you now is almost impossible!

Naaa, Truth just has to be said at some point. Cos when it backfires, you would be remembered for your stance.

Biden is not encouraging it, his laid out immigration policy is what's fuelling it. It has been interpreted by this migrants has path way to citizenship. Why the surge and why i demanded that it takes a firm stance an illegal immigration. It will only get worse with his approach.

Everybody is aware about the situation, it's not a Qanon build up. ICE is already overwhelmed and seeking volunteers.

I am a Texan and why I might be somehow sentimental. Of this goes out of hands, trust me, it won't affect states so many states cos this illegal immigrants don't even explore them. The burden will be on this State and it's citizens

The administration need make a tough stance and balance. Trust me, the mentality they all have is Biden will put them all on a pathway to citizenship

budaatum:
The surge of immigrants into America is proportional to how bad the economies of the countries the surge is coming from are doing, and if America is giving almost £2k relief to its own citizens, you must realise those in the neighbouring countries with no 2k must be doing really badly indeed.

Corona, would you remain in Guatemala without vaccine and starve to death if you can get over the border to America for some of that 2k?

This is governance, . The root cause needs to be addressed, unless it will backfires even on the US like it's doing.

The US is the No 1 super power and can influence greatly. Seeing into the affairs of the nations where this migrants are coming from should be the number one focus. Seeing to it diplomatically and addressing with foreign government should be a bold step.

If the boarders are flooded, people would bare the brunt. The standard and quality you boast of would be stretched.

Quote me, at this pace, we would be talking about more complex issues few months from now when the whole of El paso will be a detention camp.

Personally my highlight of the week is seeing republican reps and senators, try to take credit for a stimulus they all voted against

after seeing 75% of the country is happy about it

shows, those guys are the real swamp of Washington, they are obviously aren't representing their constituents.

keep voting for them sha.

CoronaVirusRelo:
This is governance, . The root cause needs to be addressed, unless it will backfires even on the US like it's doing.

The US is the No 1 super power and can influence greatly. Seeing into the affairs of the nations where this migrants are coming from should be the number one focus. Seeing to it diplomatically and addressing with foreign government should be a bold step.

If the boarders are flooded, people would bare the brunt. The standard and quality you boast of would be stretched.

Quote me, at this pace, we would be talking about more complex issues few months from now when the whole of El paso will be a detention camp.

"The root cause needs to be addressed by the United States of America, lol.

NAFTA, signed by Republican President George H.W. Bush and passed by a Democratic-controlled Congress that was implemented under Democratic President Bill Clinton, was an example of such addressing. Need I remind you what trump did to it? He replaced it with another addressing called USMCA which seems to be making much less difference. Obama went even further with his Trans-Pacific Partnership that was slammed by all.

I'll add one more just to be devious. When Buhari proposed what the Livestock Transformation Development Plan that eventually got called Ruga, he was trying to address a problem at it's roots, but people saw it as land grabbing instead of realising superior ranching will put inferior Fulani cattle roaming about out of business.

I raise these to show you that attempts have been made to address the root causes, and that the No 1 super power may try to influence greatly, but we are talking about sovereign nations with diverse interests at play, so their powers are as limited as those they have over Texas!

And yes, I do agree that we will be talking about more complex migration into America, even long after Biden, and perhaps until America gets a leader who stations shoot and kills on the border, but be assured that that would only further complexify the problem, which is going nowhere soon.

By the way, UK solved the problem somewhat by making it illegal to employ illegal immigrants, but our economy is smaller and much easier policed than America where different states decide what laws they wish to enforce.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Surge during Trump's era was not ofnthis magnitude.

ICE was not recruiting volunteers at this rate, if they ever did. And decongestion by release did not happen. It's happening now.

All this migrants have one clear thing in mind, and it was instigated by Biden's stance. At this pace, in weeks time, we would be discussing a more complex challenge at that boarder.

We might as well agree to disagree on this. Trump used the border issues as a racial bait to divide Americans. Being a doyene in America, will surely tell you that the border issues has been going on for generations in the Fruited Plains and it will keep going on for many generations to come. Trump being a racist just used the bully pulpit of his office to scare White Americans about the Browns coming into America to rape, kill and destroy. You remember that he started is Presidential campaign in 2015 descending from the escalator in his Manhattan apartment building with Melania calling Mexicans rapists, drug dealers and all kind of vile names.

budaatum:
"The root cause needs to be addressed by the United States of America, lol.

NAFTA, signed by Republican President George H.W. Bush and passed by a Democratic-controlled Congress that was implemented under Democratic President Bill Clinton, was an example of such addressing. Need I remind you what trump did to it? He replaced it with another addressing called USMCA which seems to be making much less difference. Obama went even further with his Trans-Pacific Partnership that was slammed by all.

I'll add one more just to be devious. When Buhari proposed what the Livestock Transformation Development Plan that eventually got called Ruga, he was trying to address a problem at it's roots, but people saw it as land grabbing instead of realising superior ranching will put inferior Fulani cattle roaming about out of business.

I raise these to show you that attempts have been made to address the root causes, and that the No 1 super power may try to influence greatly, but we are talking about sovereign nations with diverse interests at play, so their powers are as limited as those they have over Texas!

And yes, I do agree that we will be talking about more complex migration into America, even long after Biden, and perhaps until America gets a leader who stations shoot and kills on the border, but be assured that that would only further complexify the problem, which is going nowhere soon.

By the way, UK solved the problem somewhat by making it illegal to employ illegal immigrants, but our economy is smaller and much easier policed than America where different states decide what laws they wish to enforce.

You really raised good points if I must confess. But now that we have a new man in the helms of affairs, he should be ready to reinitiate such treaty. This is not a time for counting the mistakes of past administration, but a time to
make critical amendments. Illegal migration you cant solve but can limit. Every country deals with it. But when a sudden spike happens, definitely you know something is wrong, and that's bring about the question "What's wrong"

It's same in the US that you can't work without valid papers but that only practically works in most states. For boarder states like Texas, . You can get to work instantly after crossing the boarder- Menial jobs. They are exploited by individuals and companies seeking cheap labour which takes a toll on employment rate. I can't explain the brunt of immigration to Georgian, he barely sees it play outrightly. 90% of this illegal migrants won't make it to other states, they stay put at that boarder state cos they already have a strong network.

Let's be reminded that their won't be a country without borders. I am not clamouring for shoot at sight or inhumane treatment, but still canvassing for control and limitations. More action needs to be taken cos the status quo is not encouraging.

I can authoritatively tell you the music playing in the air is pathway to citizenship and everyone is exploiting that statement without even passed into law.

PrideofLincoln1:
We might as well agree to disagree on this. Trump used the border issues as a racial bait to divide Americans. Being a doyene in America, will surely tell you that the border issues has been going on for generations in the Fruited Plains and it will keep going on for many generations to come. Trump being a racist just used the bully pulpit of his office to scare White Americans about the Browns coming into America to rape, kill and destroy. You remember that he started is Presidential campaign in 2015 descending from the escalator in his Manhattan apartment building with Melania calling Mexicans rapiats, drug dealers and all kind of vile names.

Sincerely, outright truth and fact you stated out. But now that we have Biden, he needs to address. Republicans are already holding on to that fault. He needs to make a move. I have not led a million people in my life time, but I know situations like this calls for urgent measures.

It's Texas, the general believe by this lots is that, get into the US before the immigration bill is passed. The signal came from Biden himself and that, I believe, is the cause of the spike.

Trump is no human, he was close to getting immigration right but his racist nature set-in and wobbled everything.

My personal grudge is just with the immigration policies, that even without being passed into law, everybody already has an idea about it and capitalizing on it....

Mistakes has been made, 4 years without a president is a set back, But now is the time to address issues as it is. Immigration is the last straw republicans are holding on to, and I feel it's a justifiable point to hold-on to

Put yourself as the POTUS, what actions do you think you can take to stem the situation. Trump used the divide and conquer stuff plus all kind of divisiveness and it all failed woefully. Let us know your recipe to stop illegal immigration to US from
Mexico knowing that most illegal aliens in America came in and overstayed their visas and that counts for thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Africans.

CoronaVirusRelo:
You really raised good points if I must confess. But now that we have a new man in the helms of affairs, he should be ready to reinitiate such treaty. This is not a time for counting the mistakes of past administration, but a time to
make critical amendments. Illegal migration you cant solve but can limit. Every country deals with it. But when a sudden spike happens, definitely you know something is wrong, and that's bring about the question "What's wrong"

It's same in the US that you can't work without valid papers but that only practically works in most states. For boarder states like Texas, . You can get to work instantly after crossing the boarder- Menial jobs. They are exploited by individuals and companies seeking cheap labour which takes a toll on employment rate. I can't explain the brunt of immigration to Georgian, he barely sees it play outrightly. 90% of this illegal migrants won't make it to other states, they stay put at that boarder state cos they already have a strong network.

Let's be reminded that their won't be a country without borders. I am not clamouring for shoot at sight or inhumane treatment, but still canvassing for control and limitations. More action needs to be taken cos the status quo is not encouraging.

I can authoritatively tell you the music playing in the air is pathway to citizenship and everyone is exploiting that statement without even passed into law.

CoronaVirusRelo:
You really raised good points if I must confess. But now that we have a new man in the helms of affairs, he should be ready to reinitiate such treaty. This is not a time for counting the mistakes of past administration, but a time to
make critical amendments. Illegal migration you cant solve but can limit. Every country deals with it. But when a sudden spike happens, definitely you know something is wrong, and that's bring about the question "What's wrong"

It's same in the US that you can't work without valid papers but that only practically works in most states. For boarder states like Texas, . You can get to work instantly after crossing the boarder- Menial jobs. They are exploited by individuals and companies seeking cheap labour which takes a toll on employment rate. I can't explain the brunt of immigration to Georgian, he barely sees it play outrightly. 90% of this illegal migrants won't make it to other states, they stay put at that boarder state cos they already have a strong network.

Let's be reminded that their won't be a country without borders. I am not clamouring for shoot at sight or inhumane treatment, but still canvassing for control and limitations. More action needs to be taken cos the status quo is not encouraging.

I can authoritatively tell you the music playing in the air is pathway to citizenship and everyone is exploiting that statement without even passed into law.

Biden's priority is corona, and getting the economy back running again, which is what he is doing, and its unrealistic to expect he'd be superhuman and deal with immigration too especially while he's still trying to get his cabinet in position. But when he does start dealing with it, citizenship for those who've been in the country awhile should be on the cards since its unlikely you'd be able to catch and kick them all out, which if you don't, will be exploited by those who want to pay them next to nothing to do a job they ought to pay more to be done.

In the long run, control might deal with who enters or not, but it will not stop me standing at the border hoping I do get in, is the problem. Its like Europe with their immigration boats in the Medditeranian Ocean. It don't stop me jumping in the ocean in Libya and swimming through sharks to get to Europe.

I guess I am a dreamer. I do dream of countries without borders, and I hope we find a way to make it work one day because the current system is too much like apartheid to me.

PrideofLincoln1:
Put yourself as the POTUS, what actions do you think you can take to stem the situation. Trump used the divide and conquer stuff plus all kind of divisiveness and it all failed woefully. Let us know your recipe to stop illegal immigration to US from
Mexico knowing that most illegal aliens in America came in and overstayed their visas and that counts for thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Africans.

Like you asked, if I were to be the POTUS, I would set a committee to look into illegal immigration and suggest the most brilliant recommendations without urgency. There would be a starting point.

But strongly believing such committee would definitely identify with partnering with this nations to curb, I will welcome move and submit the need for a joint task force at the boarder.

The USA has been known to be of great influence and me and you know that the political turmoil in those nations can be addressed with allieds if all hands are on deck. The bridges Trump burnt down.

A coalition of US allieds as it stands today can put a Maduro on his knees and put Obrador on his toes.

It can't be eradicated I agree, but can be curbed to great extent

CoronaVirusRelo:
Sincerely, outright truth and fact you stated out. But now that we have Biden, he needs to address. Republicans are already holding on to that fault. He needs to make a move. I have not led a million people in my life time, but I know situations like this calls for urgent measures.

It's Texas, the general believe by this lots is that, get into the US before the immigration bill is passed. The signal came from Biden himself and that, I believe, is the cause of the spike.

Trump is no human, he was close to getting immigration right but his racist nature set-in and wobbled everything.

My personal grudge is just with the immigration policies, that even without being passed into law, everybody already has an idea about it and capitalizing on it....

Mistakes has been made, 4 years without a president is a set back, But now is the time to address issues as it is. Immigration is the last straw republicans are holding on to, and I feel it's a justifiable point to hold-on to

No President in American history is going to stop the migration from the Southern border to the US. The only thing that can stop it is economic parity. Imagine people living at Banana Island being neighbors to people from the shanty areas of Lagos and the only way for those poor people in those shantytowns to feed their families is by working at Banana Island. Do you think you can stop them when they are ready to lay down their lives by swimming through Rio Grande or walking through 90 degree weather in the deserts of Arizona or New Mexico. Only good economy will fix it and that's why you do not see Canadians violating the border to stay in the Fruited Plains.

All that has been tested and done and the problems remains. Ronald Reagan did the amnesty in the mid 80s with Speaker Tip O'Neal of Massachusetts then to legalize millions of illegal aliens thinking it will solve the problem. Here we are today even after the amnesty and lottery Visa of 20+ years, immigration problems still persist. This problem will be with America for as long as America exists. It can be curbed a little but the only solution is for those poor Latin countries to be economically viable and those people will sit tight in their countries. Why do you think thousands of Nigerians troop to American Embassy in Abuja and the Consulate in Lagos everyday.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Like you asked, if I were to be the POTUS, I would set a committee to look into illegal immigration and suggest the most brilliant recommendations without urgency. There would be a starting point.

But strongly believing such committee would definitely identify with partnering with this nations to curb, I will welcome move and submit the need for a joint task force at the boarder.

The USA has been known to be of great influence and me and you know that the political turmoil in those nations can be addressed with allieds if all hands are on deck. The bridges Trump burnt down.

A coalition of US allieds as it stands today can put a Maduro on his knees and put Obrador on his toes.

It can't be eradicated I agree, but can be curbed to great extent

budaatum:
Biden's priority is corona, and getting the economy back running again, which is what he is doing, and its unrealistic to expect he'd be superhuman and deal with immigration too especially while he's still trying to get his cabinet in position. But when he does start dealing with it, citizenship for those who've been in the country awhile should be on the cards since its unlikely you'd be able to catch and kick them all out, which if you don't, will be exploited by those who want to pay them next to nothing to do a job they ought to pay more to be done.

In the long run, control might deal with who enters or not, but it will not stop me standing at the border hoping I do get in, is the problem. Its like Europe with their immigration boats in the Medditeranian Ocean. It don't stop me jumping in the ocean in Libya and swimming through sharks to get to Europe.

I guess I am a dreamer. I do dream of countries without borders, and I hope we find a way to make it work one day because the current system is too much like apartheid to me.

You mentioned getting the economy back and that's where my grieviences come from. I said earlier that I might be sentimental as a Texan, this same immigration will only send more people to social security offices for unemployment claims. I know how it plays here.

This menace has put heavy burden on the government from my critical observation. The exploitation and siphoning is huge. And who complains, the citizens, and still have to be paid benefits for the resultant effect of this menace.


It's taking jobs, compounding security and database, and siphoning the government of taxes.

It's just control that is demanded. It's not new but just out of control.

PrideofLincoln1:
All that has been tested and done and the problems remains. Ronald Reagan did the amnesty in the mid 80s with Speaker Tip O'Neal of Massachusetts then to legalize millions of illegal aliens thinking it will solve the problem. Here we are today even after the amnesty and lottery Visa of 20+ years, immigration problems still persist. This problem will be with America for as long as America exists. It can be curbed a little but the only solution is for those poor Latin countries to be economically viable and those people will sit tight in their countries. Why do you think thousands of Nigerians troop to American Embassy in Abuja and the Consulate in Lagos everyday.

That is exactly my point. And how does that happen., It's by America initiating it's influence.


It's a norm like you said, but if we having upward trending spikes, then we should know more needs to be done. The counter effects of this I see on daily basis and why I get worried. If will be so unpatriotic me if I don't stand by this stance.

Texas is not unique in dealing with that problem.
All the border States are facing the same problem but like I said, the economic parity is the only solution to the problem. Majority of the illegal immigrants in America do not come in through Mexico. Majority flew into America with visas and overstays their visas and never go back to their home countries. Mexicans and other Latin countries are just the political football to the politicians who uses them for their political shenanigans.

CoronaVirusRelo:
You mentioned getting the economy back and that's where my grieviences come from. I said earlier that I might be sentimental as a Texan, this same immigration will only send more people to social security offices for unemployment claims. I know how it plays here.

This menace has put heavy burden on the government from my critical observation. The exploitation and siphoning is huge. And who complains, the citizens, and still have to be paid benefits for the resultant effect of this menace.


It's taking jobs, compounding security and database, and siphoning the government of taxes.

It's just control that is demanded. It's not new but just out of control.

Even if it's curbed, it will be a drop of bucket in the vast ocean. If the Government cannot curb the ones they issue visas to with all the technology available in US, how can they stop people that are swimming through Rio Grande or jumping 20 feet fence or coming in refrigerated trucks. Illegal immigration is part and parcel of American life and there's little to nothing the Government can do because the rich elites in America loves free and cheap labor.

CoronaVirusRelo:
That is exactly my point. And how does that happen., It's by America initiating it's influence.


It's a norm like you said, but if we having upward trending spikes, then we should know more needs to be done. The counter effects of this I see on daily basis and why I get worried. If will be so unpatriotic me if I don't stand by this stance.

PrideofLincoln1:
Texas is not unique in dealing with that problem.
All the border States are facing the same problem but like I said, the economic parity is the only solution to the problem. Majority of the illegal immigrants in America do not come in through Mexico. Majority flew into America with visas and overstays their visas and never go back to their home countries. Mexicans and other Latin countries are just the political football to the politicians who uses them for their political shenanigans.

You made valid points, but we must note that boarder entry is documented and an accurate count can be provided when required. This documented aliens are in records with name and fingerprints. And this does not apply to someone who just crossed the boarder and can't even be identified.

All the points you raised still has to be attended to. It's a menace considering fellow citizens who bare the brunt.

CoronaVirusRelo:
You made valid points, but we must note that boarder entry is documented and an accurate count can be provided when required. This documented aliens are in records with name and fingerprints. And this does not apply to someone who just crossed the boarder and can't even be identified.

Even with what you said, most that got visas to enter US are documented from the Issuing Embassies and arriving Airports. Those are the majority of undocumented immigrants working and living illegally in US. Do you know how many Africans got a visiting Visa daily and never return to Africa when their visas or stays expires. No one taste a honey and spits it out.

CoronaVirusRelo:
You mentioned getting the economy back and that's where my grieviences come from. I said earlier that I might be sentimental as a Texan, this same immigration will only send more people to social security offices for unemployment claims. I know how it plays here.

This menace has put heavy burden on the government from my critical observation. The exploitation and siphoning is huge. And who complains, the citizens, and still have to be paid benefits for the resultant effect of this menace.


It's taking jobs, compounding security and database, and siphoning the government of taxes.

It's just control that is demanded. It's not new but just out of control.

Look on the bright side. I heard on CSpan today that Texas is one of the almost bankrupt states and would benefit from Biden's $1.9T handout and ain't that pretty nice of him?

Stop being selfish, Corona. Practise charity. It's good for humanity.

PrideofLincoln1:
Even if it's curbed, it will be a drop of bucket in the vast ocean. If the Government cannot curb the ones they issue visas to with all the technology available in US, how can they stop people that are swimming through Rio Grande or jumping 20 feet fence or coming in refrigerated trucks. Illegal immigration is part and parcel of American life and there's little to nothing the Government can do because the rich elites in America loves free and cheap labor.

Your statement is a bitter pill one must swallow. But knowing it wrong, makes it wrong. I heard sometimes, I don't know how true though. That they stamp "No adjustment of status" on visas at POE.

But without saying much, all needs to be curbed. UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are bringing in the best brains via programs. I see no reason why American can't follow suite and tighten illegal migration.

Let me digress a little Bro, do you know a plumbing job you will do in Illinois for $300, I can get it done for $100. When I happen to do this, I have denied an American. My pain!

Americans have been dealing with immigration issues for ages and it ain't gonna change. I do not support illegal immigration but it's what it is. If I am living a hard life and I can find a better place to upgrade my life, will surely do the same thing and damn the consequences. Why do you think Africans will get on a rickety boats to cross the Mediterranean for easy life in Italy, Spain and other European countries.

CoronaVirusRelo:
You made valid points, but we must note that boarder entry is documented and an accurate count can be provided when required. This documented aliens are in records with name and fingerprints. And this does not apply to someone who just crossed the boarder and can't even be identified.

All the points you raised still has to be attended to. It's a menace considering fellow citizens who bare the brunt.

budaatum:
Look on the bright side. I heard on CSpan today that Texas is one of the almost bankrupt states and would benefit from Biden's $1.9T handout and ain't that pretty nice of him?

Stop being selfish, Corona. Practise charity. It's good for humanity.

Trust me,. I am very welcoming. But won't trade you for anything. It will be very unpatriotic if I don't say this truth. You know how much I HATE Trump. So if you see me talk to some extent, it's because I feel for people, I have young kids in the system and desire the best for the country.

I have mentioned in this forum that America's strength is it's diversity. Now, you don't have to compromise that diversity.

CoronaVirusRelo:
Your statement is a bitter pill one must swallow. But knowing it wrong, makes it wrong. I heard sometimes, I don't know how true though. That they stamp "No adjustment of status" on visas at POE.

But without saying much, all needs to be curbed. UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are bringing in the best brains via programs. I see no reason why American can't follow suite and tighten illegal migration.

Let me digress a little Bro, do you know a plumbing job you will do in Illinois for $300, I can get it done for $100. When I happen to do this, I have denied an American. My pain!

Do you know that what you said is not limited to Texas alone. Texas is a border state but most of those illegals that crosses the border moves to other States. The plumbing work you will have done for 100 bucks, I will get it done for the same amount in Chicago too. All I need to do is drive to any Menards or Home Depot Stores in Chicagoland and see hundreds of illegal immigrants looking for jobs to do. My point is that illegal immigrants never threatened my livelihood all my life and if I was in there shoes, will jump the fence or cross the river to better my life. Poverty is not something to wish for. The Africans that never went back to Africa when their visas expired are as many as the Latinos and Latinas from Latin America. So we should put everything in context

PrideofLincoln1:
Americans have been dealing with immigration issues for ages and it ain't gonna change. I do not support illegal immigration but it's what it is. If I am living a hard life and I can find a better place to upgrade my life, will surely do the same thing and damn the consequences. Why do you think Africans will get on a rickety boats to cross the Mediterranean for easy life in Italy, Spain and other European countries.

It is just what it is.

But shouldn't be an open gate. It's all putting a load on the system me and you boast about. Just a matter of time, the collapse will happen. It's bound to happen

Like I said and reemphasized, it can't be stopped, but can be curbed. Brilliant brains emerge from this same illegal immigration, it's just about check and balances.

I am always of the opinion that a norm is only accepted as a norm by the mind.. it can be altered.. And a counter immigration system in place.

PrideofLincoln1:
Do you know that what you said is not limited to Texas alone. Texas is a border state but most of those illegals that crosses the border moves to other States. The plumbing work you will have done for 100 bucks, I will get it done for the same amount in Chicago too. All I need to do is drive to any Menards or Home Depot Stores in Chicagoland and see hundreds of illegal immigrants looking for jobs to do. My point is that illegal immigrants never threatened my livelihood all my life and if I was in there shoes, will jump the fence or cross the river to better my life. Poverty is not something to wish for. The Africans that never went back to Africa when their visas expired are as many as the Latinos and Latinas from Latin America. So we should put everything in context

Sure, I am not biased by racial differences. The system I am biased about. Like you said, when you do such act, you know deep in your mind you have taken jobs away from an American and only exploiting and immigrant. You not helping them in such situation cos they don't have an option in the first place.

The first day I say that played out, I was scared. I saw the doom ahead. Two guys offered to offload a 20ft container with metallic hardware's for $200. I knew slavery was still real.