Ibrahimmrfish:
OK,i enjoy making fun at Igbo's.But seriously if i am an Igbo person and someone asked me to mention an empire founded by an Igbo, my answer will be like this,Igbo are the only ethnic group in Nigeria to developed their own writing system and their own calendar. To Igbo people, learn to use what you have to counter other people argument.

Of course we know this things cause these are sacrosanct facts, we are just trying to beat the daft OP to his own game before we nail his fate.

thebosstrevor1:


So that link is where all the igbo research is located

Something poorly written by someone who edited and modified the write up 2 days ago.

No link, no historical context.

Please, stop the deception

are u sure u open the site??

cos there are a lot of links ok..

but anyway I am not interested in this argument..
let me focus on making money.. cos money is nontribal nonreligious.. Hunger dey 4 d land etc

Olatomiwami:



So all your Igwes are useless Uhmm, nahu talk am oh ,are the subjects useless too?

The Igwes were useful to the British that installed them of course, they made indirect rule easier. I'm just going to ignore the insult btw

thebosstrevor1:


When you can't make sense of something, it literally means it is unorganized.

Nope. It means its beyond your understanding.

That calculus doesn't make sense to me doesn't mean it's disorganized.

Ibrahimmrfish:
OK,i enjoy making fun at Igbo's.But seriously if i am an Igbo person and someone asked me to mention an empire founded by an Igbo, my answer will be like this,Igbo are the only ethnic group in Nigeria to developed their own writing system and their own calendar. To Igbo people, learn to use what you have to counter other people argument.

Igbo didn't discover any writing system, the real owners are the south south. They borrowed it and call it their own. Every tribe have calendar too

Monogamy:


This one strong oo.

Hope South East people would be able to dispute this

Why am i not surprised you’re the first to enter and take seat!

ajailer:
ibos benefitted most from the white man's coming to Africa...unlike other tribes, they only lived as clans. The white man was the one that came and labelled the ibo ppl a tribe.

Your post reeks of ignorance, and shows you don’t know the meaning of the word TRIBE!

They had no empire but they were organisd enough to give the British the greatest headache.

The British faced their greatest battles in the old Eastern region while they overran places with watery empire.

They were also organised to hold create nation state overrunning all in its part until they were betrayed.

I think they would have formed a mighty empire if they wanted to.

The Greeks didn't want to have an empire.
They were independent states until they were forced to create empires by Persia.

Well, the same applies to the Igbo.

Until the arrival of the British, no external force was daring enough to subjugate igboland.

So what is the point of an empire when they were no existential foes?

thebosstrevor1:


Apparently, you are proud that your people were slaves in the white man's plantation

And you are proud to be considered unfit to even slave. Ever heard of the phrase 'less than useless?

of course no one can wish away the sad slave era. the white man had everything to enslave us the less mentally endowed as of then..So dont talk as if your people had a choice or that it was ingenuity on your people's part to be less than useless to the whiteman

SuperBold:


Igbo didn't discover any writing system, the real owners are the south south. They borrowed it and call it their own. Every tribe have calendar too

The South South in pre colonial Nigeria?

Don't discuss history next time.

You have no clue.

oluwazt:
Typical afonja...lacks knowledge of history. Igbo was the last African tribe to be subdued by Britain. Britain vowed Igbos will never know peace in their lives for delaying their plans of Africa conquest and costing lots of money. The fact is Britain sees Hausa-Fulani and Yorubaa as a people with very low IQ; they will never tell you this, that's why they let you two run Nigeria because they know you guys cannot reason critically and nothing good will ever come out of Nigeria with you guys running it...that's a fact!. But Igbos, no no no, we can't use them at all.

See someone...

thebosstrevor1:


Which history books are you reading

The one created by Nnamdi kanu??

Yoruba - Old Oyo Empire.

Hausa - Hausa Empire

Fulani - Fulani empire

Benin - Benin Empire.

Igbo - ?

We know of jaja of opobo even in his small riverine area, he was a hero.

That guy told u d bitter truth. The reason why the British hate the Igbos is that we're the only ones in the enclave called Nigeria that made them suffer with their blood. Go and read about the Aro Confederacy and the Ekumeku Wars.

An empire that could not even challenge the British.

Is that one an empire?

Empire that was giving the white savages red carpet right from the sea.

The only empire worthy of respect is the Benin empire.

The rest na korofo.

See the way Usman Dan fodio overran the North.

Look at this enwe glorifying slavery.

The ancient igboman is the original definition of a freeman and the ancient igbos practiced the purest form of democracy.

You bragging about your ancient empires which your father didn't own is more like a slave bragging about the wealth of his master.

The igbos abolished the concept of authority because authority is a dangerous concept. Authority is an enemy of freedom, a God-given right. A person (king, president, emperor) with authority has the tendency to abuse it and oppress his people.

As a result of the abolishment of authority, the ancient igbos had no prisons, no military, no police, no kings, yet they lived peacefully for thousands of years and they were never invaded by any indigenous African tribe. Who born you?

The ancient igbos were free men. They had no prisons. If you committed a crime, the people banished you from the vilage so that you can go elsewhere to enjoy your freedom alone.

In time of war, the people would collectively fight because they all owned the land. They never had any military because they knew that having a military means the military would be headed by an individual and the individual would be vested with the authority to command the military. And the individual could oppress people with the military.

Thia nonsense judiciary wey whiteman bring, wey one person go dey administer justice. If you want your own justice, you bribe the judge. In the igboman's system of justice, we hear the case in the village square and the village will judge you. The people are collectively the judiciary.


Can you Nigerians live peacefully without police, military, president, rulers etc?


The igbos were far ahead. When you hear karl Marx, Engels, Stalin, Lenin predict that one day, the workers would overthrow the system, when they talk about communism, anarchism, dictatorship of the working class, the igbos were a perfect example of these concepts.


The ancient igbos were so advanced to the point that the future which the world is heading to, is the Igbo man's past

thebosstrevor1:


Which history books are you reading

The one created by Nnamdi kanu??

Yoruba - Old Oyo Empire.

Hausa - Hausa Empire

Fulani - Fulani empire

Benin - Benin Empire.

Igbo - ?

We know of jaja of opobo even in his small riverine area, he was a hero.

its obvious u wrote dis out of pure hatred or sheer stupidity. Jaja is an Igbo man. Go and read ur history. His run-ins with the British will confirm that.

SuperBold:


Igbo didn't discover any writing system, the real owners are the south south. They borrowed it and call it their own. Every tribe have calendar too

Nsibidi writing was a unique form of calligraphy invented by the Igbos and borrowed by Ibibio, Efiks etc... Go educate yourself you stupid clown. The four market day calendar system that was practiced by generations was also borrowed?

And when did South South become a tribe? Idiot!

thebosstrevor1:
We all know about the Hausa empire, the fulani empire, the benin empire, the Old oyo empire and their heros, we all hear about the history of some of their heros, we hear about usman dan fudio, Afonja, queen aminat, Sango and how they went to battle against other empires and defeated them.

But something amazes me, i have never heard about any igbo empire, never heard about any igbo hero, never heard about any igbo wars. other empires organized wars against the colonists, they resisted and fought until they were subdued, never read any resistance of the colonists by the igbos.

The only war, we know the igbos fought was the civil war in which they were defeated by NIGERIA.

The only igbo hero i know was a fictional one in Chinue Achebe book, Okonkwo in things fall apart.

This is something to ponder about, please if you know any igbo empire or any igbo hero, mention them, i am curious.

go and read about "aro Confederacy" and Anglo aro war

thebosstrevor1:


The Ekumeku war was fought by the anioma people..who were the heros??

Presently igbo people do not accept anioma people as igbos.

shut up!

CSTRR:

The South South in pre colonial Nigeria?

Don't discuss history next time.

You have no clue.

Tobrasky:

Nsibidi writing was a unique form of calligraphy invented by the Igbos and borrowed by Ibibio, Efiks etc... Go educate yourself you stupid clown. The four market day calendar system that was practiced by generations was also borrowed?

And when did South South become a tribe? Idiot!

The origin of nsibidi is most commonly attributed to the Ejagham people of the northern Cross River region

That's how u lie about your history, attaching other history to urs to claim relevance.

chigomiced:


go and read about "aro Confederacy" and Anglo aro war

War or village attack

Asides the ancient igbos, show me any tribe, state or nation in the world where the people live peacefully without rulers, military, police, etc

You idiots are completely ignorant of democracy. The whiteman tricked you into practicing a faux-democracy. Democracy is rulership of the people. Where the people rule. What you Nigerians and the world practice is not rulership of the people, rather rulership of the president.



If you idiots want to understand the concept of democracy in its purest and practical form, go and study the ancient igbos.

Samson0599:

why him no go catch cruise
no be ur ibo brothers dey display hatred always on Yoruba people?
Imagine this thread was about Yoruba,ur ibo brothers for don full here dey bash Yoruba join
Op continue catching your cruise till we get sense

lol
U sef dey funny.
Una no dey disturb us for Biafra matter?!
Na because we don dey yab una because Fulani dey deport una from una own homeland, una come dey vex!

chigomiced:


go and read about "aro Confederacy" and Anglo aro war

Aro Confederacy are slaves-raiders, the white people gave some igbos gun to capture their kind and you are here calling them empire Nonsense

thebosstrevor1:


You have changed history.

Igbo people were still naked when usman dan fodio was preaching in sokoto in the 19th century.


Below is a picture of how igbo people were in the 20th century.

people are still naked now.
That's the reason nude photographers are making it.
Go and read 'Things fall apart' and cure ur ignorance.

SuperBold:


Aro Confederacy are slaves-raiders, the white people gave some igbos gun to capture their kind and you are here calling them empire Nonsense

a kingdom that grew into a Confederacy that grew as far as equatorial Guinea...

just buy selling palm oil and later slaves... sold oil and slaves better than the British...

almost crippled the British slave trading activities across the Niger...



goan read ur history well bros

chigomiced:


a kingdom that grew into a Confederacy that grew as far as equatorial Guinea...

just buy selling palm oil and later slaves... sold oil and slaves better than the British...

almost crippled the British slave trading activities across the Niger...



goan read ur history well bros

Aro Confederacy that couldn't defeat Efiks? the British gave u guns which gave u edge over civilization more advanced than you. Aro were only known for their slave raid nothing else

EzeNri:

Your people are still living in hut houses today. It's only in the north you will a full city filled with only hut houses.

When Aro was conquering the South, all the way to ND, where were your ancestors?

.


una go make this aboki drink sniper o
my hand no dey.
lols

thebosstrevor1:
We all know about the Hausa empire, the fulani empire, the benin empire, the Old oyo empire and their heros, we all hear about the history of some of their heros, we hear about usman dan fudio, Afonja, queen aminat, Sango and how they went to battle against other empires and defeated them.

But something amazes me, i have never heard about any igbo empire, never heard about any igbo hero, never heard about any igbo wars. other empires organized wars against the colonists, they resisted and fought until they were subdued, never read any resistance of the colonists by the igbos.

The only war, we know the igbos fought was the civil war in which they were defeated by NIGERIA.

The only igbo hero i know was a fictional one in Chinue Achebe book, Okonkwo in things fall apart.

This is something to ponder about, please if you know any igbo empire or any igbo hero, mention them, i am curious.

you asked for wars bro


below are the wars ooooo


British penetration in Igboland clearly did not end with the Anglo-Aro War. In the years that followed, the British had to deal with many other conflicts and wars in various parts of Igboland such as the Nri Conflict (1905–1911),
Ekumeku War (1883–1914), Igbo Women's War (1929), etc.
Major battles
Battles in the Oguta/ Owerri area (November 1901)
Battles of Esu Itu (December 1901)
Battles of Arochukwu (December 1901)
Battle of Edimma (January 1902)
Battle of Ikotobo (January 1902)
Battle of Ikorodaka (February 1902)
Battle of Bende (March 1902)

AlexBells:
You know nothing About Igbo people, first of all, we were not the empire people, then we had the Aro confedracy, which was the biggest market and force within the East, The Igbo federation was going to be as the advancement of the Aro confederacy continue as far in as Enugu.

Within the Nsukka Opi axis, a contact with the Middle belt kingdoms of Igala and Tiv/Idoma having long been established trade in horses and the rest was profound, the iron smelting town of Leja Nsukka and the Environs was there.

Onitsha (Aniocha) and Across to Asaba (Anioma) was booming and Nnewi Axis too was springing up, we are nation states just like Ancient greek, before Philip Alexander the greats father, the city states in greek was scattered, Alexander took it a bit far by unifying the nation states.

It was going to happen, but Aro confedracy held more repute to the British than most other empires, note also that government by elders was very common in most part of AlaIgbo, so maybe you were not paying interest to AlaIgbo just how even today you had not travelled to AlaIgbo.

It had always been a little restricted here especially for Invaders and foreigners, AlaIgbo remains a sole area by Igbos abd for Igbos, say whatever you want no inch of AlaIgbo is open to invaders so you can call us empire, we are Igbos and we are unapologetic

So, bottomline: No Empires, right?

chigomiced:



you asked for wars bro


below are the wars ooooo


British penetration in Igboland clearly did not end with the Anglo-Aro War. In the years that followed, the British had to deal with many other conflicts and wars in various parts of Igboland such as the Nri Conflict (1905–1911),
Ekumeku War (1883–1914), Igbo Women's War (1929), etc.
Major battles
Battles in the Oguta/ Owerri area (November 1901)
Battles of Esu Itu (December 1901)
Battles of Arochukwu (December 1901)
Battle of Edimma (January 1902)
Battle of Ikotobo (January 1902)
Battle of Ikorodaka (February 1902)
Battle of Bende (March 1902)

No, give examples of incidents that happened in, say, like the 3rd Century or 11th Century. Everything you’re giving is when the white man exposed you to civilization.

MajorLeaguePlay:


So, bottomline: No Empires, right?

We had our class of civilisation, we were Republican, were there ever an empire in Nigeria, what you had is kingdoms, so you would call the Benin kingdom an empire, did it have an emperor or empress, if you call Britain an empire, then Aro confedracy was an empire, becuase there was no official empire in The west African region today known as Nigeria

9japride:
Op is a funny person and just catching cruise. I didn't bother to read the writeup. Everyday, they keep coming up with one controversial topic or the other just to keep Nigerian youths distracted from the true situations of things in the country. While the evil ones are mortgaging the future of youths underground. Tomorrow again they will come up with another senseless topic so as to keep the youths arguing aimlessly. It is well. If southerners are wise they should ignore any topic that encourages division of southern Nigeria.

There is nothing like “Southerners”. You’re an Eastener, and if you’re ibo you’re a “Southeasterner”.