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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:30am On Mar 16, 2021 |
Ibime:Most companies in America won't hire illegals because they are mandated by law to do everify and ascertain their eligibility to work But there is so much you can do in the informal sector that you don't even need to go to a company to get a job You will get a flyer at your door for housecleaning, handymen, nannies, landscapers, plumbers painters and other artisans Nowadays they don't even need to take their kids along as interpreters they can do google translate make a living without going to a company |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 7:46pm On Mar 16, 2021 |
But health care for all is socialism? Yet the US can spend this amount on a jet
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 7:55pm On Mar 16, 2021 |
salford1:Exactly,The Obama method will be used. All these coming in were due to the fact that the Man that does not want to see them at all has left so it is normal for it to happen.. The administration will now do better to manage it, while giving genuine asylum seekers a chance at a better life |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:31pm On Mar 16, 2021 |
So Q na chinko man? lol. China virus dey use Trumpanzees heads since.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 8:39pm On Mar 16, 2021 |
Ibime:So Asian Americans are Chinese You sound like a Dullard and an illiterate |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 9:05pm On Mar 16, 2021 |
BLOODYSPERM:A dullard and illiterate who finished school timely unlike those who have spent 7 years in Akure University and nowhere close to graduation.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 9:35pm On Mar 16, 2021 |
happney65:The funny part of this immigration debate is that I know so many Africans including many Nigerians that came into the Fruited Plains and overstayed their visas and ended up getting permanent residency enroute to Citizenship. How convenient for them now advocating shutting the borders now. What would have happened if people were advocating the same thing against them when they overstayed their visas as they are advocating against those trying to better their lives. People will do anything to get their families out of poverty and I am not in favor of illegal immigration but it's what it's knowing the history of America and the geographical location of the United States. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 10:59pm On Mar 16, 2021 |
President Biden will hold his first presidential press conference next week Thursday |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 11:17pm On Mar 16, 2021 |
PrideofLincoln1:A greater percentage of Nigerians at one time or the other overstayed their visas . Everybody is looking for a better life. The process knows how best to go about it as this is not the first time it is happening. so it is a normal something.. I dont know why people are so worked up..Biden did not tell them all of them to come,this is normal and after a while it will subside. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 11:58pm On Mar 16, 2021 |
happney65:Exactly what I was trying to get to my friend Coronavirus the other day. It's easy for our people to denigrate immigrants that came to America undocumented knowing that majority of immigrants in America came to America with visas which they eventually overstayed. If Americans gave them a chance, how come they are against people having the same opportunity they had. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 12:05am On Mar 17, 2021 |
PDPGuy:Get ready for the Fox ultra spin. I wish Biden wears a tan suit or brings a coffee mug so they can have something to talk about. LoLz |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 12:29am On Mar 17, 2021 |
LordReed: ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 4:48am On Mar 17, 2021 |
salford1:I love your insight and realistic mention of Canada where it has played out. I think we trying to justify the fact that, for people to have become millionaires via fraud, justifies the crime. If you talk of well breed society in the world where citizens have exceptional social welfare, we need to also look at the immigration system of this countries. Switzerland is a typical example. I will same refer to the 80/90's, when Ghanians flooded Nigeria, they almost into every trade that likes of Nigerians on the forum, established the slogan "Ghana Must Go". Why did this happen? I allow someone else to answer that question. Legal immigration is valid, illegal is not. This should not be a topic of debate as it undermines basic ethics. It's far too stretched and putting heavy burden on institutions. We talk about high crime, drug rings, gang wars and lots of ills in the USA, and it's detrimental, that same country has a weak immigration system. It only takes a matter of time before collapse happen if status quo is maintained. Why have boarders and embassies if everybody deserves a better life. Those in prison also deserve a second chance if we have to go by pity. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:48pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
For the religious warriors, abortion is a gateway drug. Once they ban abortion, they can move on to ban the pill, then IUDs, diaphragms, and even condoms. After that, women can be returned to their "proper" role as chattel. Amber, the GQP doesn't care about families with mothers. They only care about controlling women. That is why certain states allow convicted rapists visitation rights with the children they made unwilling women conceive. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-anti-roe-v-wade-movement-is-increasingly-disconnected-from-facts/2021/03/16/42bfead8-8671-11eb-8a8b-5cf82c3dffe4_story.html |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:54pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
BLOODYSPERM:You wanna tell the shooters please? Asian Americans in Atlanta stunned by shootings as advocates demand action Asian Americans in Georgia have faced escalating verbal abuse and harassment, community leaders said, leading to fears that the shootings that killed eight, including six Asian women, were racially motivated. Authorities say they are working to determine motive. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/17/atlanta-spa-shootings-reactions/? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 5:56pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
PrideofLincoln1:It's the selfish act of pulling up the ladder after they've reached the top. Those who've climbed up are the harshest at keeping others down. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 6:22pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
This US Intelligence is very unintelligent! How can they possibly have missed all the efforts of us here to influence the election in Biden's favour? Did they not notice the Corona virus we sent to reduce the trump voters and the dead we raised to increase the Biden vote? They must please give us the credit we are due! ![]() Putin targeted people close to Trump in bid to influence 2020 election, U.S. intelligence says |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 6:34pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
---Different treatment by Police Depts---between a white-male-mass shooter---and a black-male-who-tendered-a 'fake' $20 bill--- https://www.foxnews.com/us/atlanta-shooting-suspect-police-attacks-not-racially-motivated-sex-addiction
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 7:01pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
budaatum:Coming to the USA is reaching the top? You need to have a change of mindset. I will advice you to come-over and see for yourself. Its a wrong ideology.. You probably want to come here an become and Engineer, accountant or lawyer via illegal entry? The competition is very high here and few of The Nigerians who get to America make it to that class. Dont let me talk cos you will to be too shocked! But kill that idea of thinking coming to America makes you somebody else. America will only make you who you want to become, based on what you can offer. Forget all those home videos and sweet stories you here. If you want to see the life and work of what people you support do, you need to be in America first... Telling you can never paint a picture. You see cosmetics. Come-in illegally and see for yourself, and come compete for white collar jobs. You know what coming to America mostly end up for those likes, It becomes a point of know return. You cant fall back. Depending on the industry you coming from in Nigeria, You might even come to America and make lesser of what you earn in Nigeria cos you illegal and your work experiences might even make you redundant that you will be forced to return to school. You need to be here and see. Sweet stories you hear most. No one is going to tell you what they are going through. Appreciate me if I am breaking down to you. Once again, Travel and See. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 7:07pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
budaatum:Bhudhaman, you nailed it perfectly. God bless you for that. There was a Mexican lady here about a year ago advocating for shutting down the border during the Presidential campaign just to suck up to Trump. Guess what happened to her ?. She was going through the process of adjusting her status and the Immigration office found some information about her and she ended up being deported back to Mexico. Do these guys know the amount of Nigerians that overstayed their visas in Europe and America. Imagine our friends here advocating for all these Nigerians to be deported. I guess they think only Mexicans, Guatemalans and other undocumented immigrants from Latin America should be subjected to deportation. Some of them here probably know guys that are in America illegally. Imagine if Americans were shouting about deporting all these Africans that are overstaying their visas. What's happening is that our friends are being brainwashed by the Republicons immigration propaganda that comes out of bigotry, hatred and xenophobia against colored people. You don't see RepubliKKKans advocating for deportation of those illegal immigrants from Eastern Europe. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:10pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
CoronaVirusRelo:I think you are strawmanning and deliberately focusing on the wrong point of my statement. I mean, how the heck can USA that elected an idiot like trump be top of anything if you really think? It is those who have acquired America citizenship who might think they have reached a top. I spent a year in Mexico because I consider USA to be the bottom of the pit. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 7:14pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
Do your mass deportation should be used against Nigerians too. How do undocumented immigrants from Latin America affects you ?. Like I said before, I am not in favor of illegal immigration but if I am a Mexican and poor like a church rat, will cross the border in a jiffy to better my life. Have seen it all in America growing up here and I have no qualms about a guy trying to better his life knowing the history of how Europeans came into America and kill off millions of Native Americans. Immigration has a way of sorting itself out and I doubt if you can work in a farm like Mexicans do for little or nothing. Those immigrants are truly the bread basket of America and they commit little crime compared to native born Americans according to official FBI statistics. CoronaVirusRelo: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:17pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
PrideofLincoln1:Is it time to send an sos to Texas to save CoronaVirusRelo I wonder. Can you believe how he just misrepresented what I said? Has he been taking the qanon pill behind our back or something, he is surrounded by Gops in Texas after all so they might be poisoning him behind our back and I'd hate to lose him to basili&co! |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 7:22pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
PrideofLincoln1:Discussion is not aabout Nigerians, Mexicans or Europeans, it's about check balancing illegal immigration. Nations have done and curbed to extent. Biden has refused to visit the southern boarder, probably can't stare into those ICE staffs. You can't make illegal legal by remorse or pity. It is what it is. So do I say you support the recent surge at the Southern boarder? Between the last 10 years till date, as America been stronger or weaker in it's immigration policies? Now it's termed wickedness for advocating what's right and I have to be on the open the boarders side. Do you think of the impact and effect of this policies you support? I know what plays around and I can authoritatively tell you that, amongst great Nations, America has the weakest immigration system. Does that mean nations who have buffered the system are evil? How about people who migrate legally, are they fools? Let's call a spade a spade, cos no point will make illegality legal. It's weaken the system. Peolosi has acknowledged surge and blaming on Trump, thats an acknowledgment that she is aware of the rise. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 7:23pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
budaatum:He is a good guy but I disagree with him and others here advocating for mass deportation of undocumented workers. I just want to ask him if all these thousands or Tens of thousands of Nigerians 8f not more should be mass deported too. I bet you there are so many people here on Nairaland with families in America that are undocumented. Maybe he think illegal immigration is only from Mexicans and other Hispanic countries. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 7:24pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
budaatum:Not at all, I deter Republicans, and can never be a part of them. No government gets all the marks. Everyone has a fault. Obama did not debate much about immigration, but had one of the toughest policy. Deportation was on a high... Biden just shot himself in the leg with those policies he made mention of. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 7:28pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
PrideofLincoln1:You are not in favour of illegal immigration and still canvass for it in subsequent sentencesw. I seem not to know where you stand at this point. Are you advocating for free boarders or not. What is your opinion about immigration in US. Should it be lessened or tightened. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 7:29pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
You keep on harping on the same fiction. Did you get your Green Card from Nigeriaor did you come in by visit Visa or student Visa. I ask of that to tell you that if you are a Mexicanand you are suffering, You will jump the fence or swim across Rio Grande just to feed your family and better your life. Do you think immigration problem just started with Biden. Trump was very anti immigration but it didn't stop illegal immigration. Obama deported more undocumented immigrants more than any American President and it didn't stop illegal immigration. Tell me once more what you will do if you are the immigration Czar or the POTUS. CoronaVirusRelo: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 7:36pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
PrideofLincoln1:Canada, Germany and UK have stronger policies. Adapting into the systems of this country is tough. Unlike here, we both know anyone will adapt and get rolling in less that a weak. The ring keeps getting bigger every year. Like somebody said, America only need to adopt policies of Nations that have succeeded. It can't be completely eradicated but their should be checks. I would I have thought of risking my life to cross the boarder when I actually know other routes to immigrate. Australia, Canada, New Zealand and some likes are running programmes. Unskilled labour programmes. Nigerians are exploiting this programs and getting results. (Nairaland travel section is a reference) And we are here canvassing for illegal immigration and terming it as wickedness for advocating for tighter POE. I will say once again, their is no way to make illegality, legal. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:38pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
CoronaVirusRelo:Well do not discuss like those brainless daponobasili&co please. America lacks universal healthcare, is continously arguing what a woman does with the content of her womb, has lots of people who think the darker the skin the less human the being, and has just lost the most people to coronavirus than any other nation so it really can't be the top of anything but an ego. If my country behaves the way America does, we will burn it down in shame! Damn, we burn my country down in shame of USA already!
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 7:39pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
CoronaVirusRelo:I'm with you. Illegal is not the right way to travel and "becoming" worst still pushing children over the finishing line...Goodness what those kids go through- sigh Very tough choice coming to America through the river like we saw last week or 2weeks ago or doing one flew over or under the barb wire - only to await the hard life ahead if not deported. If people want to come, go through the normal way of applying for whatever visa. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 7:40pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
CoronaVirusRelo:How many times will I tell you I am against illegal immigration but I do not loathe undocumented immigrants like you do. What brought you to America and how did you change your status. Advocating the same xenophobia Republicans are used to because most of the undocumented immigrants are Black and Brown People. All those vegetables and fruits you buy at the Grocery stores are the products of Hispanic workers and the beneficiaries are wealthy Republicans who employed them knowing that they are undocumented and Americans will not do that back breaking work for peanuts like Mexicans do. You are talking like America immigration problems started 10 years ago. It's been going on for ages and it's going to work itself out. I think you are falling for the RepubliKKKan propaganda of hate and division of people that ain't White. Biden has enough to deal with now with the pandemic and the stimulus that just passed not to talk of the bad economy and the infrastructural bills that will soon come out of the House of Representatives. Why should he be fixated about the border when Trump with all his open bigotry and hatred of Mexicans didn't amount to nothing in his four lousy tragic years. |
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