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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 2:23pm On Mar 18, 2021
Cornpop:
What are you basing this lie on? You can't even seek asylum from Canada... You have to be outside the country to do that. And they are very far from flexible.

Notice how you said Canada is flexible with legal migration and student easily get permanent resident. So what are you talking about? Are you confused? The topic here is illegal migration and Canada does not tolerate that one bit.

Canada and Australia are two nations that are stricter than at US in terms of legal migration.
Here you go saying what you don't know
They are only two ways to claim asylum in canada

At the point of entry, or when you are inside Canada at the the office of immigration, refugees and citizenship

I don't know about Australia, because I have never read about there immigration policies

Last I read, only in 2018 canada accepted more refugee than the united states

Yet they are lesser than the united states by any measure

Link below
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48696974
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter:
Timiofak:
Sir you are one of the smartest republicans I know, you are smarter than this

you know that immigration reform can't happen without bipartisanship

especially with the filibuster system


And out of those years, mention the times democrats held the Senate for more than two years consecutively

I know you know, so mention them
You mean 2 years is not enough? How long will be enough for democrats to do something about immigration?

How many years did Republicans have full control to make their changes they did like the tax cut

If a legislation is important to any party, 2yrs is more than enough to pass it

But democrats won't do anything by next elections they will still be whining about what Republicans didn't allow them do though they have control of both house

Just like in Nigeria by 2023, APC will still be campaigning about what PDP didn't allow them to do
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:25pm On Mar 18, 2021
Cornpop:
Is Canada xenophobic or racist? They don't allow illegals in. This is not about trump anymore. Get sense oga.
Hush your mouth . Which Canada are you talking about. Have you been to Canada in your life to know that they don't let illegal immigration in. What about all these Nigerians crossing the Northern border from US to Canada asking for refugees status during the time of Trump. Are they not illegal immigrants since they don't have Canadian visas. Everyone think he can put mouth in something that's beyond his knowledge. Go back and deal with your stress wherever you live.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:27pm On Mar 18, 2021
Don't mind that brainless troll that doesn't know anything but trying to make himself relevant here.
Timiofak:
Here you go saying what you don't know
They are only two ways to claim asylum in canada

At the point of entry, or when you are inside Canada at the the office of immigration, refugees and citizenship

I don't know about Australia, because I have never read about there immigration policies

Last I read, only in 2018 canada accepted more refugee than the united states

Yet they are lesser than the united states by any measure

Link below
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48696974
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 2:29pm On Mar 18, 2021
raumdeuter:
You mean 2 years is not enough? How long will be enough for democrats to do something about immigration?

How many years did Republicans have full control to make their changes they did like the tax break
Lmao, you smartly ignored the point if the topic

That immigration reform needs bipartisanship

let me mention one that democrats sponsored

DACA

who tried to stop it again

REPUBLICANS

so what exactly do you want

If a large scale immigration reform is too be done

Bipartisanship is needed, Republican senators won't back that

what they would back is a total stop in immigration, which is insane.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 2:29pm On Mar 18, 2021
Cornpop:
What are you basing this lie on? You can't even seek asylum from Canada... You have to be outside the country to do that. And they are very far from flexible.

Notice how you said Canada is flexible with legal migration and student easily get permanent resident. So what are you talking about? Are you confused? The topic here is illegal migration and Canada does not tolerate that one bit.

Canada and Australia are two nations that are stricter than at US in terms of legal migration.
Here you go saying what you don't know
They are only two ways to claim asylum in canada

At the point of entry, or when you are inside Canada at the the office of immigration, refugees and citizenship

I don't know about Australia, because I have never read about there immigration policies

Last I read, only in 2018 canada accepted more refugee than the united states

Yet they are lesser than the united states by any measure

Link below
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48696974
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 2:29pm On Mar 18, 2021
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:31pm On Mar 18, 2021
Timiofak:
Lmao, you smartly ignored the point if the topic

That immigration reform needs bipartisanship

let me mention on that democrats sponsored

DACA

who tried to stop it again

REPUBLICANS

so what exactly do you want

If a large scale immigration reform is too be done

Bipartisanship is needed, Republican senators won't back that

what they would back is a total stop in immigration, which insane.
Like Republicans that did the diversity lottery which brought many immigrants into America

Republicans proposed a merit based system like the one used in Canada and Australia that you all love, guess who tried to stop it? Democrats
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit: 2:40pm On Mar 18, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Exactly what I was trying to get Coronovirus and others like him to understand. It's like climbing a tree and then kicking the ladder away. There's no single country that illegal immigration destroys in World's history and you rightly noted that bad political leaders like Trump and probably Buhari are the ones destroying countries. All my life growing up till today, never felt threatened by undocumented immigrants in America as long as they are not into criminal activities. If our guys here are advocating for shutting the US borders and mass deportation, do they know how many Africans including thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Nigerians that will be affected. Last point, I have been to Central Iowa and you couldn't believe what these Hispanics do at the farms for peanuts that Americans or Nigerians won't even do. That's why I refer to them as the Bread basket of America.
well said.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Cornpop: 2:45pm On Mar 18, 2021
Timiofak:
Here you go saying what you don't know
They are only two ways to claim asylum in canada

At the point of entry, or when you are inside Canada at the the office of immigration, refugees and citizenship

I don't know about Australia, because I have never read about there immigration policies

Last I read, only in 2018 canada accepted more refugee than the united states

Yet they are lesser than the united states by any measure

Link below
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48696974
We are talking about illegals here again. You cannot enter Canada illegally and make asylum claim. You better stop mixing up stuff. There is a process to seek asylum in both US and Canada. People who seek asylum in-land Canada was already given a visa. They did not get there illegally. Know the difference. It's not hard.

I was talking about travelling to Canada vs USA. Canada is more strict. This is a fact.

Here is cic policy that says they are screened abroad, check security clearance before they are given visa then they can apply for asylum
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2017/03/claiming_asylum_incanadawhathappens.html#:~:text=Asylum%20seekers%20make%20a%20refugee%20claim%20in%20Canada,being%20issued%20a%20visa%20to%20come%20to%20Canada.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 2:48pm On Mar 18, 2021
Cornpop:
We are talking about illegals here again. You cannot enter Canada illegally and make asylum claim. You better stop mixing up stuff. There is a process to seek asylum in both US and Canada. People who seek asylum in-land Canada was already given a visa. They did not get there illegally. Know the difference. It's not hard.

I was talking about travelling to Canada vs USA. Canada is more strict. This is a fact.
And what you keep missing is

70% of illegals in the US came with a valid visa

can't you get that
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:55pm On Mar 18, 2021
Timiofak:
And what you keep missing is

70% of illegals in the US came with a valid visa

can't you get that
That guy is a clown. He doesn't know that majority of illegal immigrants in America came in through the Airports with visas that they overstayed. They are falling for the RepubliKKKan crap which is based on prejudice and bigotry of Brown and Black people. You can see the perfect example of that with the Klannish Trump four years of disaster as the POTUS.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 2:55pm On Mar 18, 2021
raumdeuter:
Like Republicans that did the diversity lottery which brought many immigrants into America

Republicans proposed a merit based system like the one used in Canada and Australia that you all love, guess who tried to stop it? Democrats
Lmao, seems you having partial forgetfulness here oooo, same visa lottery trump and his cronies decided to get rid off?

Republicans were not the ones that sponsored visa lottery

Go and read about it

A democrat named TED KENNEDY, did that

And it passed by bipartisanship when Republicans were still reasonable

though plenty of them voted against it

out of the 8 people in the Senate that voted against it, 5 were Republicans

in the house, the major nays were republicans

George bush, only did his job by signing it into law because it passed both houses

The merit-based system is a system that wont do shit to America's system right now it's broken

I'll post the visa bulletin below

they are some cases that were petitioned for in ’98

That hasn't been processed

a through revamping is needed

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Cornpop: 2:55pm On Mar 18, 2021
Timiofak:
And what you keep missing is

70% of illegals in the US came with a valid visa

can't you get that
They came lawfully. That your argument no make sense. They can be tracked, they have their records. If they meet all your immigration requirements you have no choice but to let them him. If they choose to remain illegally it has nothing to do with their immigration process Because they came in legally.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Cornpop: 2:57pm On Mar 18, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
That guy is a clown. He doesn't know that majority of illegal immigrants in America came in through the Airports with visas that they overstayed. They are falling for the RepubliKKKan crap which is based on prejudice and bigotry of Brown and Black people. You can see the perfect example of that with the Klannish Trump four years of disaster as the POTUS.
If they were given visa at their respective country before they got to the US... Then they did not come in illegally. Maybe you are the clown who can't distinguish between illegal and legal migration
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:02pm On Mar 18, 2021
Timiofak:
Lmao, seems you having partial forgetfulness here oooo, same visa lottery trump and his cronies decided to get rid off?

Republicans were not the ones that sponsored visa lottery

Go and read about it

A democrat named TED KENNEDY, did that

And it passed by bipartisanship when Republicans were still reasonable

though plenty of them voted against it

out of the 8 people in the Senate that voted against it, 5 were Republicans

in the house, the major nays were republicans

George bush, only did his job by signing it into law because it passed both houses

The merit-based system is a system that wont do shit to America's system right now it's broken

I'll post the visa bulletin below

they are some cases that were petitioned for in ’98

That hasn't been processed

a through revamping is needed
Visa lottery was passed under a Republican president yet Democrats are trying to claim credit for it. Should we also credit any law passed under Trump when Democrats were in control of Congress to Democrats?
Democrats had 16yrs of Presidency since then what have they done about it? Nothing yet every election cycle becomes a catchy phrase for them to get votes. WHen will Democrats push their own immigration reform like was done under Bush

Why won't the merit system work in America? Is it not the system in use currently by our favourite example Canada? Is it not working in Canada?
When you propose healthcare for all using Canada as an example, you forget that healthcare in the US is broken right now

The immigration system is broken, Canada system won't work
The Healthcare system is broken, Canada system is the solution
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 3:03pm On Mar 18, 2021
Cornpop:
They came lawfully. That your argument no make sense. They can be tracked, they have their records. If they meet all your immigration requirements you have no choice but to let them him. If they choose to remain illegally it has nothing to do with their immigration process Because they came in legally.
And this right here is the point

Border illegals, are minute compared to visa overstays

that's why I kept telling you your comparison to Canada is wrong, Canada is a not within borders with any third world country you can't compare them

Most of the illegals in the US and Canada came by planes, the only reason canadas own is different is because they are immigration friendly

So far you are clean, you can apply

Americas own is way different

They were immigration friendly in 70’s up to the early 2000’s

But it isn't so anymore
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 3:06pm On Mar 18, 2021
raumdeuter:
Visa lottery was passed under a Republican president yet Democrats are trying to claim credit for it. Should we also credit any law passed under Trump when Democrats were in control of Congress to Democrats?
Democrats had 16yrs of Presidency since then what have they done about it? Nothing yet every election cycle becomes a catchy phrase for them to get votes

Why won't the merit system work in America? Is it not the system in use currently by our favourite example Canada? Is it not working in Canada?
When you propose healthcare for all using Canada as an example, you forget that healthcare in the US is broken right now

The immigration system is broken, Canada system won't work
The Healthcare system is broken, Canada system is the solution
Sir I am really disappointed in you sincerely

I saw you as a reasonable person

It's clear here that republicans didn't sponsor the lottery bill but Democrats did

But because Bush signed it's suddenly republican?

wow

I gave you reasons why the merit system won't work right now.


You conveniently overlooked where I mentioned the same republicans tried to scrape off the lottery.

lmao

enjoy. No conversation from me anymore

Look at the data I posted earlier

enjoy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Cornpop: 3:13pm On Mar 18, 2021
Timiofak:
And this right here is the point

Border illegals, are minute compared to visa overstays

that's why I kept telling you your comparison to Canada is wrong, Canada is a not within borders with any third world country you can't compare them

Most of the illegals in the US and Canada came by planes, the only reason canadas own is different is because they are immigration friendly

So far you are clean, you can apply

Americas own is way different

They were immigration friendly in 70’s up to the early 2000’s

But it isn't so anymore
Still does not make sense. Because people overstay there visa let's open the borders for everything to pass through. This is stupid reasoning
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Cornpop: 3:17pm On Mar 18, 2021
Timiofak:
And this right here is the point

Border illegals, are minute compared to visa overstays

that's why I kept telling you your comparison to Canada is wrong, Canada is a not within borders with any third world country you can't compare them

Most of the illegals in the US and Canada came by planes, the only reason canadas own is different is because they are immigration friendly

So far you are clean, you can apply

Americas own is way different

They were immigration friendly in 70’s up to the early 2000’s

But it isn't so anymore
"that's why I kept telling you your comparison to Canada is wrong, Canada is a not within borders with any third world country you can't compare them"

That's not a problem. The ones in us already wanted to enter Canada and they realised that Canada is stricter. They are being sent back asap to the US.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:18pm On Mar 18, 2021
Cornpop:
If they were given visa at their respective country before they got to the US... Then they did not come in illegally. Maybe you are the clown who can't distinguish between illegal and legal migration
Look at this bumbling foool. What's the difference between a guy that comes in with a visa that he overstays and the ones that cross the border. ICE will treat them equally as undocumented aliens. Go back and discuss your local politics foool. Your idiocy is being showed every time you type your tripe.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 3:22pm On Mar 18, 2021
Cornpop:
Still does not make sense. Because people overstay there visa let's open the borders for everything to pass through. This is stupid reasoning
Who claimed this? Not me

what I just want you too know is

Republicans pretend like they are against, only illegal migration

When they are generally anti-migration

Ask anyone that knows about US immigration

How slow and frustrating, trumps admin made legal migration

especially to countries of color

It's clear, they are NAZI’s

I.e Stephen miller and the rest.

Something needs to be done to the border crises yes

But it isn't a wall that would stop it
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Cornpop: 3:39pm On Mar 18, 2021
Timiofak:
Who claimed this? Not me

what I just want you too know is

Republicans pretend like they are against, only illegal migration

When they are generally anti-migration

Ask anyone that knows about US immigration

How slow and frustrating, trumps admin made legal migration

especially to countries of color

It's clear, they are NAZI’s

I.e Stephen miller and the rest.

Something needs to be done to the border crises yes

But it isn't a wall that would stop it
That is what you and that other Chicago umadike has been making arguments for. Sad to know you are not aware of the arguments you are making
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Cornpop: 3:42pm On Mar 18, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Look at this bumbling foool. What's the difference between a guy that comes in with a visa that he overstays and the ones that cross the border. ICE will treat them equally as undocumented aliens. Go back and discuss your local politics foool. Your idiocy is being showed every time you type your tripe.
The one that comes in with a visa has to follow the law and meet the migration requirements to come. They pay a fee, take their finger prints and do medical test as well as background test. While the other ones just walked in. Are you too foolish to not know the difference?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 3:53pm On Mar 18, 2021
Cornpop:
The one that comes in with a visa has to follow the law and meet the migration requirements to come. They pay a fee, take their finger prints and do medical test as well as background test. While the other ones just walked in. Are you too foolish to not know the difference?
I have gone through your details and see the idiotic fool I am discussing with. It's my bad. This the foul mouthed midget that has mud for brain. Like I said before, I am done with you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Cornpop: 3:57pm On Mar 18, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
I have gone through your details and see the idiotic fool I am discussing with. It's my bad. This the foul mouthed midget that has mud for brain. Like I said before, I am done with you.
Lmao. Look at this slowpoke is angry because he has no arguments so he went through my details on Nairaland which has none of my details so he can cook up an excuse to run away.

Even a monkey from a zoo will win a debate with you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 4:00pm On Mar 18, 2021
Guys, watch out for the brainless midget with name Cornpop. He's the misogynist never do well that people are avoiding. Let him choke on his own puke. If anyone is in doubt, check his profile and confirm it yourself.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Cornpop: 4:06pm On Mar 18, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Guys, watch out for the brainless midget with name Cornpop. He's the misogynist never do well that people are avoiding. Let him choke on his own puke. If anyone is in doubt, check his profile and confirm it yourself.
Hahaha he went and checked my post calling him b!tch nigga during the election so he says I am a misogynist because he is confirming himself to be a b!tch cheesy

Please check my profile and see all the curse I give am cheesy he went there and see how I hurt his feeling back then now he says I am a misogynist because he is a bich grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 5:11pm On Mar 18, 2021
Cornpop:
We are talking about illegals here again. You cannot enter Canada illegally and make asylum claim. You better stop mixing up stuff. There is a process to seek asylum in both US and Canada. People who seek asylum in-land Canada was already given a visa. They did not get there illegally. Know the difference. It's not hard.

I was talking about travelling to Canada vs USA. Canada is more strict. This is a fact.

Here is cic policy that says they are screened abroad, check security clearance before they are given visa then they can apply for asylum
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2017/03/claiming_asylum_incanadawhathappens.html#:~:text=Asylum%20seekers%20make%20a%20refugee%20claim%20in%20Canada,being%20issued%20a%20visa%20to%20come%20to%20Canada.
Did you actually read what you posted cheesy

How come ilegal immigrants were showing up at our border and some of them successfully made refugee claims. Note that majority of them did not have Canadian visas. Most were ilegal in US. They fled up north when Trudeau tweeted about Canada being welcoming to people fleeing prosecution. Some just came straight from overseas and immediately found there way to the border. No Canadian visa whatsoever.

While majority were not granted asylum and deported, some were granted asylum. Canada aims to process everyone of them (fair hearing).

You might want to read up on:

Canada–United States Safe Third Country Agreement
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 5:15pm On Mar 18, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Look at this bumbling foool. What's the difference between a guy that comes in with a visa that he overstays and the ones that cross the border. ICE will treat them equally as undocumented aliens. Go back and discuss your local politics foool. Your idiocy is being showed every time you type your tripe.
I am getting confused reading popcorn's posts, especially about Canada.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Cornpop: 5:33pm On Mar 18, 2021
salford1:
Did you actually read what you posted cheesy

How come ilegal immigrants were showing up at our border and some of them successfully made refugee claims. Note that majority of them did not have Canadian visas. Most were ilegal in US. They fled up north when Trudeau tweeted about Canada being welcoming to people fleeing prosecution. Some just came straight from overseas and immediately found there way to the border. No Canadian visa whatsoever.

While majority were not granted asylum and deported, some were granted asylum. Canada aims to process everyone of them (fair hearing).

You might want to read up on:

Canada–United States Safe Third Country Agreement
Maybe you should read what I posted before you reply. Sorry for any confusion you may have had. Not my fault brother.

You may want to check if those people who were given asylum cross the border or they went through what was stated in that link I sited. I mean the cic link.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 6:03pm On Mar 18, 2021
Timiofak:
And this right here is the point

Border illegals, are minute compared to visa overstays

that's why I kept telling you your comparison to Canada is wrong, Canada is a not within borders with any third world country you can't compare them

Most of the illegals in the US and Canada came by planes, the only reason canadas own is different is because they are immigration friendly

So far you are clean, you can apply

Americas own is way different

They were immigration friendly in 70’s up to the early 2000’s

But it isn't so anymore
Popcorn has no clue on the topic. He is just trying to wing it.
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