Kobojunkie:
1. I have confirmation of only two things on the list. I have not gotten confirmation of any of the others. When the disciples, who had walked with Jesus Christ for almost 3 years at that point, had problems casting out a demon from a child, what did Jesus Christ tell them?

What I have learned from my person research is that this is a process that happens over time, and it is beyond my control so all I can do is continue to trust and obey just as we are all called to doing.

2. Let's look at some of the rules as given by Jesus Christ, this in addition to "Love your neighbor even as you love yourself".
Jesus Christ also commanded that those who follow Him must be willing to lose their lives in order to save it.
Questions for you.
* Why would anyone who obeys these laws wait for a rapist to do harm to one, let alone a second child?

* Is it the case that such a one is somehow unable to throw his own self in the way of this "bomb" or what?

I have personally never been in such a situation as the one you describe, but one thing I know is doing what Jesus Christ commands is utmost in every situation, even if it means loosing ones own life in the process?

3. An even harder thing to do is to give/sell everything one has, and give it all away yo those who have need. We are talking of losing more than just your shirt and coat here. And this Jesus Christ said is what everyone who wants to enter into His Heaven must do. His own disciples had to do it too - Matthew 19 vs 16 - 28. In Matthew[b] 13 vs 44 - 46[/b], Jesus Christ told us two parables about the Kingdom of Heaven ezplaining this to those who will listen to Him.

If you have already given it all - all you own and are, career, family, friends, reputation, self/ego etc., - up for His sake, why worry then over losing a mere shirt and a coat to anyone?

4. Nope, the Sabbath was not abolished, just that the idea of a Holy day is not included in the New Covenant. However, the original idea remains in the Old Covenant Law where it always belonged.

In much similar way, what you know as the 10 commandments(though you should know that there are instead 613 commandments) remain there in the Old Covenant where they belong. The New Covenant is a different standard from the Old Covenant and so it would behoove you to learn the New laws rather than cling to an Old standard that had nothing to do with you in the first place - we will all be judged by the New standard.

1. Has it ever occurred to your credulous mind that Lord Jesus might not have said some of these things or might not have said them that way. You go straight to twisting to justify and claiming you keep what I know you can't keep!

2. So why are we suddenly celebrating it on Sunday?? What's wrong with Saturday that God preferred?

3. You keep saying 613. Those were laws for communal living mostly authored by priests.

4. You are stuck on this your law stuff. Christianity is not about obeying laws and rituals. That's what makes it different from religion. Christianity is FIRST AND FOREMOST about accepting and spiritually belonging to a Person, then following that Person the best you can, always remembering that your salvation is due to His grace, and not for any purported righteousness of yours!

sureway1:


its an answer of Yes or No.

to know if she drag the association too the social media go and watched all her videos where she spoke about the issue... better still read the association publication.

see this issue is dicey baba ijesha or whatsoever he calls himself is wrong.. i am fully against what he did.. but iyabo ojo on the other hand took the issue to far... i understand she is a woman but i refuse to believe that other women were not advising her... you see in a battle there are times you just have to retreat...

Define drag.
"Retreat" "the case is in court" "cover it up to protect the girl", that's why pedophiles keep thriving in
Nigeria!

Ayomi90:

You ar d one that shldnt get emotional because e no concern me. But lemme tell u something, if the girl is actually a minor then both Baba Ijesha nd Princess will be jailed in short Princess jail term will doubled baba Ijesha own coz using a minor to for such mumu investigation is a criminal offence. Princess herself has shut her mouth coz she knows d mess she's in. If u wanna continue ranting u can go ahead but all I knw is the matter is in court. So if u ar pained u can go nd sentence Baba Ijesha urself.

So mumu you do concede you were wrong - the girl did in fact say she was 7. Ojo did nothing wrong - at no time was the girl in any danger. In Nigeria, full of people like you, you have to catch him red-handed - the girl's word means nothing! There was no other way

sureway1:



how does your comment relate to what I typed...

I ask again if such happen in your place of work and your company is silent about it, will you drag your company to social media and not get a sack letter?


abeg make we dey use common sense.

How did she drag anyone to social media?? What kind of company would that be, instead of empathizing with you on your situation, sack you! How would they have reacted if it were them?!

Ayomi90:

Mumu, that's how u come online nd rant rubbish, when did d girl claimed that baba Ijesha molested her in 7years. That girl they claim is 14 does she resemble 14 yrs in ur own eyes? Same girl that was d one making the moves.

Why don't you people follow a story before getting emotionally invested in it?! THE GIRL TOLD OJO HE MOLESTED HER AT SEVEN! That's what triggered the video set-up. The girl is 14!! People were there when she was born 14 years ago! Don't let the fact you are also a pedophile cloud your judgment!

Ayomi90:

Mumu so u claim he is a pedophile, Olodo, do u even knw d meaning of d word?

It means people like you and baba Ijesha. A girl said he was molesting her at 7. And then he confirms it in a video with the same girl, now 14!

sureway1:

the truth is their is nothing wrong with speaking out in a case like this but she overdo the thing.. it now look like she has a score to settle with the guy... to the extend she said she will sell her house to send him to jail..aba! your colleague! can you say such to someone in your place of work if such thing happen put everything on yourself and drag your company to social media without getting a sack letter?

make we dey use our common sense oh...

Let's hope one day your teenage daughter tells you that your friend was molesting her when she was 7. Let's see how self-controlled you'd be

UchenduOkolie:
That girl that was abused deserves justice but when she grows much older she will hate Iyabo Ojo for messing up this case for her and making it more difficult to prosecute.

Nonsense. Most pedophiles are discharged at the police station, and go home to continue doing it, the family having learnt nothing they can do. That would have also been the case here too but for the Ojo woman

9niceguy:


Nobody is supporting evil here or there. Let's reason beyond one side story that have been circulating around and wait for final judgement from the court.

This is what the elderly people she is insulting was telling her. For crying out loud! How does telling someone to let court decide on a matter now become supporting evil.

I don't see anything wrong when someone tells you to let court decide on a matter.
On baba ijesha been tagged as evil, remember there is always two sides of a story.

Please note: Nobody is supporting child molestation. All we are saying is, if the man really did what he was accused of the court should do the needful

Stop deceiving yourself. We know how Nigerian courts work. Even, most pedophiles are discharged at the police station.
"Keep shut" "the case is already in court" that's always your mantra. Meanwhile Nigeria continues full of pedophiles because they keep getting away with it!

Ayomi90:

Nobody stops u from speaking but don't turn to a dog. We don't need her to b barking, the case is already in court.

Pedophile enabler spotted. "Keep shut" "the case is already in court" that's always their mantra. Meanwhile Nigeria continues full of pedophiles and they keep getting away with it!

kolarov93:


Keep pushing this woman ooo.
Her career is about to end. Make she keep shut for crying out loud, she should let court decide now.

Go and sit down, pedophile enabler. "Keep shut" that's always your mantra. That's why Nigeria is full of pedophiles and they get away with it 95% of the time! Keep shut

juman:
Baba ijesha was set up.
And he didnt rape.
When tampan leaders talked to her to take things easy, she should have listened.

Mumu, so the girl was lying he molested her at 7. Then the video at 14. Mumu!

Besk:



Keep deceiving her. She’s not fighting the case but pursuing an agenda and, in the process, she’s badly jeorpardising the case and winning more sympathy for a man the whole world hated at the beginning of the saga.

Question is: why do you slay girls always tell lies to one another and why are you all sycophants?

She's been suspended. For what??!! Did you think about that?
The issue is not slay girls. The issue is pedophilia and how to stamp it out of Nigeria!

lagusboyyy:
All this lady is doing is for clout chasing and to remain relevant.

When last as she acted in any A rated yoruba movie? Mtschew!

She should go and find somewhere to chill,the matter is already in court.
Wetin be her problem with baba ijesha gan sef

Pedophile spotted. Her problem with baba Ijesha? Mumu didn't you watch the video? What has her acting got to do with the issue? She's been suspended. For what?! Did u think about that?

STRONG WOMAN! That's the only way or Nigeria will stay full of pedopholes!

Kobojunkie:
But I haven't confronted anything with convoluted reasoning even up this point in the conversation.

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** You said you could do two of eat poison or be bitten by poisonous snake! instead of wondering if Christ ever said such

** you said you turn your cheek; when told it's like bringing your other daughter for a rapist to rape after raping the first daughter, you obfuscated.

** You said when someone steals your coat you give him the other one.

Instead of simply admitting that these are too hard for a human being!

** You said Jesus saying Sabbath was made for man means Sabbath was abolished. So if he said the 10 commandments were made for man, that means they were abolished??!

What is your budget. How much are you working with?

Kobojunkie:
But you assume that by telling the thief that he will be with Him, Jesus Christ, in paradise, Jesus Christ meant the thief was become one of the saint or follower of Jesus Christ though, why is that?

Are you somehow of the mind that everyone whose sins Jesus Christ forgave, or who He healed healed up a follower of Jesus Christ?

Anyways, in John 5 vs 24 - 30, Jesus Christ speaks again of raising those who died to be judged at the end. Clearly paradise is not Heaven and Jesus Christ would be sending any of His followers anywhere until the end.

About John 11 vs 23 - 26, Do those who sleep in their graves not do so because they have life?

See now how you have totally confused yourself by insisting on the letter of words that could have been manipulated by men. Any that's mentioned you try to confront it with convoluted reasoning, instead of stopping to ask yourself: "I wonder if that was actually what Lord Jesus said."

And yes, the thief now had as much right as any follower of Christ. Stop confusing yourself. Christ made that clear in the parable where they were all paid same though some started very late!

BTW you didn't tell us what is paradise that the thief went, and where it is located

Kobojunkie:
1. But paradise is not heaven and we know this because

* Jesus Christ did not ascend into Heaven until after He had finished His mission here on earth, so His statement that the thief would be with Him that day in paradise was not in reference to Heaven .

* in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 40, Jesus Christ taught that Heaven and Hell will not be open to admission until after He returns, so again, Paradise could not be a reference to Heaven

* and lastly, the thief, did not meet any of the requirements set by Jesus Christ for entry into Heaven, so he couldn't, by Jesus Christ's own standards, be headed in Heavens direction

Do you see anywhere where He said the thief will be in grave - which is where you say the Saints wait??
Bros stop confusing yourself. See below

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ never asked anyone to give their other daughter... your daughter is not property for you to give anyone.

But speaking of doing what Jesus Christ commands, did you know that Jesus Christ said that anyone who does not hate father, mother, wife, children, etc., more than Him is not worthy of Him?

He even commanded that you store your treasures in Heaven and not here on earth.

2. God declared in Jeremiah 31 vs 34, that He alone is Teacher to everyone who belongs to Him in His new Agreement. Jesus Christ stated that He alone is Teache to each and everyone who belongs to His flock - Matthew 23 vs 6 - and also that only those indeed taught by His Father,belong to Him - John 6 vs 43 - 45.

Now the apostles may have lived with Jesus Christ 2000 years ago and some of them may have written of their walk but they are all dead and are sleeping in their graves, waiting, like every other believer who is dead and gone , for Jesus Christ to return and then judge their works.

Now, since I have the same Teacher, Jesus Christ, the very same Master who walked with and taught His Law, to the apostles, living even today inside of me -He teaches me the same things He taught to the apostles when they were alive - who do you think I ought to listen to?
The dead and buried or the living Master who even after 2000 years is still the same Law of God?

Dead and in their graves? Then why did Christ say the good thief who was crucified with Him would be in Paradise SAME DAY??

Kobojunkie:
1. I didn't have to "interpret" any of what was written though. I simply used the understanding to have - basic human language comprehension skills that most every human out there has.

Like I said, Jesus Christ taught that very same to the uneducated and poor of His time. He never asked anyone to interpret His words. He simply asked that we use the understanding we have to glean His teachings.

2. I am glad I got the chance to properly explain what He has made known to me to you of what is indeed written.

I know it is not easy to break away from the lies one has been fed from, in some cases, childhood, that is what indoctrination does to us. Bit I urge you to be willing to wipe the slate clean and start over, having the Word of God Himself write, anew, His Truth on the tablet of your heart.

3. Sure, the blood of Jesus Christ was shed for the forgiveness of sins of those who He ransomed from the Old Covenant, but Jesus Christ never taught anyone to wash anything in His blood, let alone a robe though. You need to read through the Gospels for yourself to know this.

Ok, if someone rapes your daughter, give him the other daughter to also rape, or you are condemned.
Here you are, over 2000 years removed from the words of Christ and you know better than those who heard directly from Him and interacted with Him. You know better what He meant than they. How many words would such a teacher speak in a day. How many volumes if books will be required for just one day's words!

Why wouldn't she be telling the truth - that is the question!

Neither were Zik, Awo, Ahmad Bello

Ok

Kobojunkie:
Recall what I said in an earlier comment about who Jesus Christ is. He is the Contract agreement between God and individuals (not groups or people). So it doesn't and shouldn't matter how many others obey the terms and conditions of the contract, Jesus Christ. What matters is whether I obey the terms and conditions of my contract, Jesus Christ, with God.

2. Also, I already told you how I got saved from the condemnation of sin(Death) by obeying Jesus Christ's commandments which stipulate that I must believe and eat of his body and drink of His blood in order to gain His eternal life(grace) in place of Death.

As for thinking that I earned it by obeying laws, let me ask you two question. When you were a child, did you only obey your parents because you believed you would earn from them things when your doing what you were instructed to do?

Or did you obey them because you trusted their decision?

Jesus Christ said, "The truth is, you must change your thinking and become like little children. If you don’t do this, you will never enter God’s kingdom."- Matthew 18 vs 3

Heaven will be you and two other people who gave their belongings to whoever stole from them. The rest of humanity will be condemned. All to accommodate your ridiculous interpretation!

Bros, you are being verbally legalistic about things of the spirit. Ain't gonna work.
JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR YOUR SINS, that you be reconciled to God! Stop trying to law yourself into salvation. YOU CAN'T!!
See below.

Kobojunkie:
1. Recall that the same Jesus Christ declared to us, "I am the wWay, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through Me". So, Jesus Christ is the Way to the Father, and this way then tells us what to DO if we want to get to the Father - commandments. He then tells us that those who love Him are those who obey His commandments - John 6 vs 23 -26.

He even declares that His friends are those who do all that He tells them to do - John 15 vs 14. , but here you are saying that Jesus Christ was instead saying that we cannot be saved by obeying His commandments? Is Jesus Christ a liar and deceiver?
Jesus Christ even told you in Matthew 7 vs 21 that only those who do the Will of God .I.e. obey His commandments , will enter into Heaven

2. I am human and I have turned the other cheek and I have come close to giving someone who stole my shirt much jacket too. Stephen, in Acts of the apostle,is a vivid example of a human who did not defend himself when his enemies chose to attack him and he died for Jesus Christ.
Many of the disciples are said to have died in similar manner. Not resisting the enemy even when it meant their end. They too were humans, were they not.

So what do you mean when you suggest that somehow our very humanity keeps us from obeying the commandments of God?

You and how many other people can do that? My brother you have been miseduated. Accept salvation that has been offered free. Instead of thinking you earned it by obeying Laws!

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DarkJeddi:
The said Paedophile has been taken to a competent court of Justice for trial..

What else exactly are you expecting?

A witch hunt and jungle justice?

I'm expecting this stupid group to condemn pedophilia in society and advocate protection of the girl child. Not unwarranted condemnation of those aggrieved!

THIS IS WRONG!!! THIS IS WHY NIHERIA IS FULL OF PEDOPHILES!!!

Kobojunkie:
1. The Word of God is written of in the bible, is it not? The bible is a book which contains the written words of men, of even Satan and his demons as well. But so also is the Word of God, God's own Truth aka Jesus Christ.

I believe in the Word of God - the Word out of God's
Mouth- and every thing He says and how He says it matters in comprehending His Truth.

2. God is a God of Laws/Covenants and each of His Laws is eternal and absolute. In the Bible alone, we read of several of these Laws/Covenants - Adamic Covenant, Noahic Covenant, Abrahamic Covenant, Mosaic Covenant aka Old Covenant Law of Moses(YHWH), Davidic Covenant etc.

The New Covenant, Jesus Christ is God's Law in the Kingdom of God and He is an agreement between God and individuals(not peoples or groups). Those who love Jesus Christ are those who carefully obey the details of the Law that is Jesus Christ, and no other Law.

Jesus Christ never asked His followers to obey the 10 commandments, nor the other 603 other laws that complete that set of Old. He gave to them a New Law Covenant complete with a new set of laws to which He called them to submit to and obey. Below are reference to some of Jesus Christ's laws which as you can see are not of the same standard as that of even the 10 commandments of Old

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A. Instead of “I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any gods before Me.” , Jesus Christ declared that you cannot serve two masters - Matthew 6 vs 24.

B. Instead “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”, Jesus declared that no harm will come to those who insult Him or God, but only to those who insult the Spirit of God, an act He deemed unforgivable - Mark 3 vs 28 - 30.

C.. Instead of "Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day", Jesus Christ declared “The Sabbath day was made to help people. People were not made to be ruled by the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord of every day, even the Sabbath.” - Mark 2 vs 27 - 28, essentially doing away with the need for a holy day.

D. Instead of "Honor your mother and Father that your days may be long in the land that He have their fathers...", Jesus Christ instead declared that only those who abandon their parents and families for His sake are worthy Him and eternity in His Heaven - Luke 14 vs 26.

E. Instead of “Thou shalt not commit adultery.”, Jesus Christ declared that even by simply lusting in your heart, you are already guilty of adultery - Matthew 5 vs 27 - 30

F. Instead of “Thou shalt not steal. ” , Jesus Christ declared that if you have in your hand something that your neighbor has need of, don't tell him to come tomorrow, give him that which he asked for - Matthew 5 vs 42

G. Instead of "Thou shall not Kill", Jesus instead declared that “You have heard that it was said to our people long ago, ‘You must not murder anyone.[a] Any person who commits murder will be judged.’ But I tell you, don’t be angry with anyone. If you are angry with others, you will be judged. And if you insult someone, you will be judged by the high court. And if you call someone a fool, you will be in danger of the fire of hell." - Matthew 5 vs 21 - 23

H. Instead of "Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor", Jesus Christ declared, " But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." - Matthew 12 vs 36 - 37

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Jesus Christ said His friends are those who submit to and obey His teachings and His commandments - John 15 vs 14

3. Well, I also made it clear from the start that my Trust is in God and not in men and their works, did I not? So, my Trust is in God and not inthe book that was put together by the hands of men. My belief is in the Word of God and in God's power to maintain the integrity of His Truth through time and men, remember?

P.S When it comes to God, I dont just read the books of the Bible. I read all sorts of books. After all, we are told that All knowledge of good and Evil belongs to God so there is not just one inspired book on this planet. Instead all knowledge - written and unwritten- are inspired by God.

My brother you are misguided. I don't have time to address these now. THOSE ARE NOT LAWS!!! Otherwise nobody will make heaven! His disciples even observed this. It was His way of telling you you can't be saved by obeying laws! You are human, you can't turn the other cheek, you can't give someone who stole your shirt your jacket too. You can only be saved throuhh GRACE!

mindtricks:



Woman already cleared all this. If you truly are abreast with her story you shouldn't be this unaware. You can in like manner search out videos of where she countered that twist by the church my friend.

I even think TB might be in heaven right now. Recall how four angels descended to come take him home?

There us NO WAY to clear that up. She said HERSELF that she left and came back and TB told her to bring her mother and her mother came and when they saw she was about to leave again, they tried to tape them.
What evil group does that, knowing she had all their secrets.
Look, TB had lots of money and SARS under his thumb. If he wanted Busola dead it would have been a piece of cake.

TB could be in heaven. Maybe he later changed. Remember, Bosola left 2008! That's a long time ago.