APOSTLECHUMA:
LETS REASON TOGETHER MY BROTHER AS IT IS GOOD TO SHARE KNOWLEDGE. THE OFFICE OF A JUDGE WASNT A RELIGIOUS OFFICE AS IT WAS THE OFFICE OF A RULER OR LEADER. SOMETHING LIKE WOMAN GOVERNOR OR PRESIDENT AND NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT. THE EMPHASIS IS ON A WOMAN PASTORING A CHURCH WHICH IS A RELIGIOUS DUTY. THERE ARE THINGS A WOMAN CAN DO IN THE HOUSE OF GOD WHICH ARE SCRIPTURALLY PERMITTED BUT GOING TO THE SACRED DESK IS NO GO AREA FOR THEM. EVE USURPED AUTHORITY OVER HER HUSBAND AND THAT WAS WHAT GOT HUMANITY INTO THE MESS WE ARE STILL IN. THEY CAN SEE VISIONS ETC BUT PREACHING FROM THE PULPIT IS A TABOO BEFORE GOD. I AM FAR FROM BEING A ROMAN CATHOLIC BUT THEY RESPECT THAT ORDER, EXPLAINING WHY REVEREND SISTERS DONT CONDUCT MASS.

So you have conceded Sabbath. You are disobeying Sabbath but obeying woman should not speak in church (even if she were the one God has clearly given the gift!). THE WHOLE OF ISRAEL WAS A CONGREGATION - A CHURCH! A woman should not have been allowed to speak, going by St. Paul's opinion!

livingchrist:


The sabbath is a shadow of christ,

Colossians 2:16-17 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

That a woman should not usurp authority over a man is not paul's personal opinion, it is the way God ordained it, Adam was first created before eve.
1 Timothy 2:13
For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

The disciples that the letter was written directly to kept the Sabbath. And all Christians kept keeping it until the Catholic church, whose pope decreed himself God on earth, changed it to accommodate Roman sun worship tradition!
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You are wiser than God who made a woman the only one of two people in the Bible to be both judge and prophet!

Agbebakun22:
Same thing weh happen for my hostel after I don pack out leave my junior roommate.. Fresher's weh just pack in to our hostel, e no reach three weeks my roommate weh be junior don dey Bleep the two roommate back to back.

Na wa o. But not every girl o. Me I be virgin

redsun:


There is no church that is not satanic in Nigeria. They all deceive and take advantage of inherently ignorant and gullible people. TB was not different from others, he only laid his game differently. He started very simple and timid, but he trained himself to be more sophisticated and relatively flamboyant.

But there are people in all those churches that are truly devout and who get their mojo from those churches. There are people like that in SCOAN too.. And that's why, contrary to what planetx said, it will not be shut down.

Qudsi:


You have been hoodwinked. Bisola was in charge of the team that even made this documentary for him. He is fake.

I disagree. Something was pushing this person. He could have gone into any other businesses. Different if he inherited it or was groomed into it. He STARTED it.
He was compelled to. He had no choice. You can say he later lost whatever it was and started scamming


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXgyXgyVWK0

APOSTLECHUMA:
.MY BROTHER, NO POINT FUSSING OVER THE SCRIPTURE AS IT SPEAKS FOR ITS SELF. IT IS HOWEVER REVEALED BY THE SPIRIT OF REVELATION AND IF YOU DONT HAVE THE DIVINE KNOWLEDGE OF IT, BEST THING IS TO HUMBLE YOURSELF AND ASK GOD FOR IT AND HE IN GRACE WILL ANOINT YOUR EYES WITH EYESALVE TO SEE. IF A WOMAN CAN BE A PASTOR, WHICH IS THE OFFICE OF A PRIEST, WHICH WOMAN HIGH PRIEST IN THE OLD TESTAMENT CAN YOU MENTION OR GIVE US HER NAME. THE FIVE FOLD MINISTRY IS GIVEN UNTO MEN (EPHESIANS 4;8-11 AND CHRIST WAS ON EARTH AND HAD 12 APOSTLES, OUT OF WHOM THERE WASNT ANY APOSTLE RITA OR BOLA.

See him, shifting the goal post. We are talking about Sabbath!

But even at that, there are only TWO individuals in the bible who were both prophet and judge. One of them was a woman: Deborah!
Yet a woman can't address the congregation!

livingchrist:
He spoke the truth, he didnt twist anything.

He didn't. Prove it from the bible.
Here's the TRUTH;

The Sabbath law was given by God right from creation. All the early disciples obeyed it, jew or gentile. THE ONLY REASON IT WAS MOVED TO SUNDAY WAS TO ACCOMMODATE ROME'S TRADITION OF SUN AND EMPEROR WORSHIP BY WHICH THEY RESTED ON SUNDAY. It is not Biblical in any way at all.

You disregard this clear God's law but insist on Paul's personal opinion (which might have been suitable for those times) that women should not speak in church!

livingchrist:

You are very correct, the old testament is a shadow of the new APOSTLECHUMA

Doesn't change the fact most of what he wrote is twisting of facts to suit his purpose instead of presenting the truth and admitting not to be following it - like most of us!

Qudsi:


He lied in his documentary. He was no small pastor from childhood. These were stuffs he made up for himself as he got popular in his documentary. Bisola was even part of the people that recorded his documentary when she was still with him.

How can this be fake? This man I'm looking at here is being pushed by something. Maybe he later became a monster


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXgyXgyVWK0

fuckingAyaya:
After seeing what many female students do in school in the name of happenings babes to marry graduate go weak ur bones

But not all o.

DDDEnterprises:
If you see one, ask her why. Na she go sabi the answer wella

I did. She told me love. I said which kind love be that

APOSTLECHUMA:
MY BROTHER OR WHO EVER YOU ARE, THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS A SHADOW OF THINGS TO COME AND IT HELPS IF WE HAVE THE SPIRITUAL REVELATION OF WHAT THOSE OLD TESTAMENTS SHADOWS SYMBOLISED. THE SACRIFICIAL LAMB USED IN SIN OFFERING THEN WAS A SYMBOL OF THE TRUE LAMB OF GOD (CHRIST) WHO DIED TO TAKE AWAY OUR SINS. SABBATH MEANS REST AND THAT DAY WAS GIVEN TO ISRAELITES TO OBSERVE AS A DAY OF REST, TO REPRESENT THE TRUE AND ETERNAL REST THAT GOD WAS GOING TO GIVE HUMANITY. THAT TRUE REST IS CHRIST, COME UNTO ME ALL YE THAT LABOUR AND I WILL GIVE U REST. THE REST HE MEANT HERE WASNT TO GIVE THEM SABBATH TO KEEP BUT ETERNAL REST FROM STRUGGLING WITH SIN SO THAT THEY COULD LIVE LIVES WORTHY OF THE GOSPEL AND HAVE THE ASSURANCE OF ETERNAL LIFE. ANOTHER ANGLE OF IT IS THAT GOD HAS DIFFERENT LAWS FOR GENTILES AND JEWS AND IT IS GOOD TO RECOGNISE WHOM YOU ARE AND FOLLOW GOD'S LAWS FOR YOUR RACE. JEWS STIL KEEP SABBATH AND THATS OK, BUT WHEN THE TRUE SABBATH (CHRIST) CAME, GRACE WAS INTRODUCED AND THE LAW DONE AWAY WITH BECAUSE THE REAL THING THAT THE OLD TESTAMENT LAWS SYMBOLISED WAS HERE ON EARTH. JEWS WORSHIP ON SATURDAY BUT GENTILE BRIDES OF CHRIST WORSHIP ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK WHICH IS SUNDAY AND IT DIDNT START TODAY, IT BEGAN WITH EARLY BELIEVERS WHO GATHERED ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK TO BREAK BREAD. SEE ACTS 20-7 ANY GENTILE WHO WORSHIPS ON SATURDAY, DOESNT KNOW HIS IDENTITY IN GOD, I PITY THEM THE WAY I PITY GENTILES LIKE NNAMDI KALU WHO IS PRACTISING JUDAISM WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THE JEWISH RELIGION IS STRICTLY FOR JEWS. cfountainoftruth@gmail.com

See this one, twisting the clear Bible out of shape to suit his misinformation. The Sabbath law was given by God right from creation. All the early disciples obeyed it, jew or gentile. THE ONLY REASON IT WAS MOVED TO SUNDAY WAS TO ACCOMMODATE ROME'S TRADITION OF SUN AND EMPEROR WORSHIP BY WHICH THEY RESTED ON SUNDAY. It is not Biblical in any way at all.

You disregard this clear God's law but insist on Paul's personal opinion (which might have been suitable for those times) that women should not speak in church!

Shetemi12:
That's misconception. You will also have someone you dating who is loyal to you.. Does that mean she's a wife to you??

Someone that does ALL the duties of a wife is what?

I personally think we females in general have a deep-seated need to take care of a man no matter how feminist we may seem

But why? Your comments please.

I shall tell you a short story.
I was in year 3 (300 level) at the University and staying off-campus when Hope resumed school as a fresher. She was very young, not yet 20, and had this innocent kind of beauty that made every head give her a second glance. She also had a friendly aura and a loveable spirit that made everyone liked her as soon as they saw her.

According to what she told me, she had paid some of the dues late and so was unable to secure accommodation in the school’s hostel. She had plans to move into our compound with another girl as roommate but something happened that I don’t remember and that was how she came to stay all by herself in the room.

Hope and I only had long conversations a couple of times and kept the rest at “Hello-hi” “May I borrow some matches from you?” etc.

In the second month that Hope moved into our compound, Dayo, a 300 level student appeared. He came in to squat with Quadri, a final year student of Economics.

Dayo wasn’t handsome nor did he have any distinctive physical feature about him. He was short and his head was too large. But he carried himself with such grace and confidence that made people respect him even before they knew who he truly was.

But you know that talk about face-me-I-face-you compound and see finish?

Well, we saw Dayo finish. Quadri was constantly complaining loudly of Dayo’s dirty habits and his lazy nature. For the life of me, I cannot understand how somebody will be squatting with another person and still have the guts to wait for the owner of the room to come back and fetch water for them to use.

If only Quadri knew that indolence and a filthy environment were the least of things he should have been worried about! Whenever Quadri was away, Dayo would bring in girls to come and spend the night in the room.

We all observed this in the compound. I saw this, the seven other students in the compound saw this, Hope also saw this yet she opened her two koro koro eyes and her slender arms wide to take Dayo in when Quadri finished up with his project and moved out of the house some three months later.

This thing was like a movie but I assure you, dear reader, that it really happened. Hope turned herself into a full-time housewife in the room that her parents paid the rent for.
She cooked meals for both herself and Dayo with the weekly allowance that her parents sent her.
She became the dry cleaner, washing all of Dayo’s jeans, singlet, boxers, and socks with the soap that her parents gave her money for.
She swept, cleaned, and fetched water for both of them with the buckets that her parents gave her money for.

Because it is impossible for one to serve God and mammon, Hope soon started to skip classes. Before Dayo came to the house, I usually spied her through my window all dressed up and leaving for morning lectures. When Dayo came into the picture, I don’t remember the last time I saw her all dressed up for school in the mornings.

Dayo would eat her food without contributing one kobo, mess up the room and cross his legs while she swept, grumble loudly if she asked him to help her with fetching water and beat her up at will.

She does all the house chores without complaints

We were all students and no one wanted to get involved in a matter that frankly was none of their business. Okay, I remember, someone did. I think it was Erica who went and did the Lord’s business by advising Hope to kick Dayo out of her room.

Ehyah! If only Erica knew that an outsider should never try to come in between a couple. Well, Hope went and reported Erica to Dayo who in turn insulted the living daylight out of Erica.

How did this Hope and Dayo affair end, you might want to know? Well, I do not know because as at the time I graduated and moved out of the compound some two years later, Dayo had an extra year and Hope had a couple of carryovers but they were very much still living together.

https://9jabeat.com/shes-a-part-time-student-but-a-full-time-housewife-on-campus/

APOSTLECHUMA:
SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN CALLED SYNAGOGUE OF GOD AND BY THEIR FRUITS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM. ITS AN ABOMINATION FOR A WOMAN TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH BUT THEY REFER TO TRAMPLE ON THIE SCRIPTURE RATHER THAN OBEY IT SO THAT THEIR BUSINESS WILL CONTINUE AS USUAL. PASTOR RITA, NKECHI ABIMBOLA, OR AMINA IS AN ABOMINATION UNTO GOD. 1 COR 14:34-38 AND 1TIM 2:11--

Bible also says many other things you don't obey- like Sabbath. How come this is the only part you are bent out of shape about?

chidifrank:

many i mean many called their selves.
some have the passion for Christ and felt its enough and felt dts what is needed n they venture into it.
We dont know for sure who is and was called by Our Father but Our Father said it , by their fruits we shall know them.
plus the bible said a woman should not be preaching in the congregation. why are our churches full of all these women preaching and reading the same bible that i am reading which kick against such act�

But the Bible also said many things - like keep Saturday holy. But, speaking of calling, why is it that the most successful pastors are always eventually exposed as not even being Christians talkless of calling? WHY?

IgweBUIKE1:
you only know the TV version of fatai no the real him behind the cam

What's all this Fatai. Who named him Fatai?

Andres28:
The wife of prophet t.b Joshua taking over doesn't mean she alone is going to be the minister in the church.some one has to be the leader oence.
The most notable face in scoan now after prophet t.b Joshua is prophet Racine...This man is synonymous to t.b Joshua in every way.
The wife can become the leader but this minister will be the driving force of the ministry hence..(there are still two others).

Is he a true Christian or also a scammer like tb joshua? Do you know?

Calitoscassius:
So what kinda miracles will she perform? Healing, raising the dead or what? When she couldn't heal or raise her own husband from the dead.


The gullibles would still believe her lies.

Her husband performed no miracles either. People's faith performed their miracles for them. That's why the church will survive regardless of who is leader

Qudsi:

I am a Christian but with what AbdulFatai did to Bisola whom he had sex with for 14years and other little girls. He was a false prophet like MuhamMad who used the name of Jesus as an associating tool for credibility.

He was an occultist fake miracle enchanter who deceived many. Infact, in recent years. He was one of the biggest false prophet from Africa in recent years and he was a sleek smart manipulator laundering his image through philanthropy while getting the money back from his ablution type of "anointing water", sale of his praying bead, his pictures, writings in an Arabic type of writing not understandable when you personally consult him and claiming it was the Holyspirit revelation. He acted like a humble man in public but behind the scene was a wolf.

But he must have been a true prophet initially. Because he started this from childhood - he was even called small pastor.
A question: did he truly wed this woman?

And how come he has so many names??

Rozcol:
I think its unGodly,there's a reason why God didn't choose any woman as a prophet

This na LIE o!
Deborah was not only a prophet but also a judge. Only one of two people in the Bible like that!

anthonyuncle:


confirmed typical nigerian
hope you've had breakfast.

one thing i know for sure is that even though the american government are against him, he is going to be treated with softer hands in an american prison than in a Spanish prison because he is (partly) american.

just imagine if hushpuppi is extradited to nigeria to face charges for his crimes, how would he be treated?

My typical African, depression doesn't work like that. All he could see was months of tawdry tabloid headlines detailing all bad things he ever did for his family and friends to face. Then followed by 30 years of being locked up - which at 75 means life sentence. In your African conspiracy mind it is far fetched someone in that situation would choose suicide!

But she already said they smoked.

AntiChristian:


According to the dictionary produced by your ancestors right?

No, according to common sense. Think: who else does what you do. We have speakers of French, Latin, Yoruba, Hausa, etc on this Forum. But they all understand this is an ENGLISH forum, except brainwashed you!

anthonyuncle:


good morning typical ogbonge nigerian, hope you slept well.
it is a pity you neither know how the media can slander nor how people can secretly divert their wealth to make it appear gone(to people like you).
i don't expect you to change your believe that this is suicide (you are a typical nigerian anyways)

Oh my typical African, I slept like a baby as usual because I don't have all sorts of conspiracies and "spiritual attacks" running through my head. I know you probably didn't because you be wondering who exactly has you under attack. As to the topic, name one thing you believe to be true and I'll use conspiracy to show you doubts. You can show doubts in ANYTHING. That's why we go by preponderance of evidence. Get that into your African head!

Conner44:


school me please

Legally adopted son is same as your natural son in the eyes of the law, with full rights and privileges of son

Conner44:


what was there not to understand?

Simple: ADOPTED son. Do you know what adopted means?

Conner44:
any child the man makes with a woman who he wedded LEGALLY is his heir no matter the age difference

This one does not understand the question

Legally, of course the adopted son. But culturally, may be different from place to place.
A person angry at his natural sons can even adopt a son and declare him his heir

anthonyuncle:


typical nigerian. always claiming to know it all, but is unaware of the fact that lots of murders have been arranged to make it look like suicide. the murderers have always walked free cause they know that people like you will come with your so called reasoning and logic to defend them.
btw, ha wasn't a nonentity

Typical African still hasn't understood that at some point he needs to go with what he has otherwise NOTHING can ever be settled. You can always find doubt. See below, while his mates were becoming billionaires, at 75 he had no job, his fortune was disappearing fast, and he was facing a harrowing front page trial, then possible 30 years in jail. In your small conspiracy mind that's not enough to say it was suicide, given absence of any contradicting evidence

anthonyuncle:


original typical nigerian. claims to be logical but is ignorant that logic can be used against a person; doesn't even know that timing is very important in issues like this.

Typical African, doesn't know that at some point he needs to stop splitting hairs and rely on available evidence. Why wait to kill him and call it suicide since 9 months ago? What if he had escaped all that time? And why would anyone want a nonentity dead? Did any of that occur to you at all?

1nigeriamyfoot:


Thanks

Let's have your opinion

Well, the answer is all around you - poverty. Hollywood makes movies with millions of $. Nollywood manages their's with thousands of Naira!