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kinesis:
the Bible says ALL GENERATIONS... Jesus didn’t even need to call her blessed for her to be blessed. Since then till now all generations have continued to honor her and the blessing and or grace God bestowed on her cannot be erased by your conviction of things.

what is not certified by Jesus is null and void in CHRISTIANITY. Maybe in elizabethianity or gabrielity

nuggarito:
and how does that affect my prayers being answered. My point is no matter how anyone criticizes the church or my methods of praying or worship, provided it makes you better, its a go for me.

of course the devil can answer your prayers to gain your soul. Or do you think he was joking when tempted Jesus?

kinesis:
The problem is u choose to ignore what I just wrote. She was full of the Holy Spirit when those words came out of her. What else are you waiting to hear?

i'm waiting for just a simple truth. Did Jesus ever hailed mary or called her blessed?

kinesis:
Luke 1:41&42 gives reference to Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit and calling Mary blessed among all women. It’s there in the Bible. Either u don’t read or choose to ignore it

are you following Elizabeth or Jesus?

freshboi88:
Do I need to call my mother mother, to know she is my mother...this is God. The Angel relayed Gods messages...the greeting was from God not d angel..d angel only did as instructed

so you never called your mother mummy or mamma?
Jesus knew some bunch of deceivers will come up with the idea of affiliation to worship something else that's why He never lost to the devil nor call mary mother.

freshboi88:
The Arch angel hailed Mary, this is not about winning or losing but making u open ur mind not to judge others based on ur own interpretation of scripture.... Open ur mind, listen to other pples beliefs. I dnt need to show u place Jesus called Mary mother ....Mary gave birth to Jesus ....that's enough for me

are you a follower of angel Gabriel or Christ? Show me where Jesus call mary mother and i'll accept you're right all along. You see ,it's people like you that made Jesus never to call mary mother

freshboi88:
Both which u mentioned yes!!!.....but not what u tink...I said show me a place were condemned making images as made by solomon and as reveerneced by Joshua in d new testament

show me a place where Jesus called mary mother not to mention hail mary then you win

freshboi88:
This is what you think....Christianity isn't about wht u think

what is christianity if it's not following Christ? Hailing mary?

freshboi88:
But u said making images is not biblical now....I hve showed u were images were made even bowed to......if u r bringing Jesus, u will have to show me were Jesus condemned Solomon for making images Joshua for bowing bfre an image

if Jesus can condemn simple money exchange in temples then just hailing mary before God is sacrilege

gemale:
Mary interceded at the wedding at Cana, Galilee & Jesus obeyed even though it wasn't His. What I noticed was that even when Jesus stated that it wasn't His time, Mary knew that He would help hence she told the servants to do whatever Jesus told them. She knew who Jesus was & long believed in Him without asking for signs & wonders to convince her. The catholic church doesn't teach that Mary answers prayers; God does. She only intercedes (similar to what pentecostals call standing in the gap). I'm catholic & never have i heard us say "in Mary's name we pray". We pray in Jesus name or "through Jesus Christ our Lord". Finally John 1:1 says "in the beginning was the word & the word was with God & the word was God" verse 14 says "& the word was made flesh (became man) & dwelt among us". The word that was God became man. Who was that man? Jesus Christ. Who was His mother? Mary. The only way you can have issues with that is if you say Jesus isn't God. In the apostles' Creed we recite in every mass, we affirm our belief in Jesus Christ "true God & true man". Take some advice. Learn to be humble in knowledge. You donk know it all. The books of proverbs says to get understanding in all your getting. The problem a lot of pentecostals have is that they read the surface & think that is all. No, in depth study & research is needed most times by numerous individuals. That's why the field of theology exists. Yes the Holy Spirit gives revelations but an ill prepared mind might misinterpret the revelation. Regular mastication & chewing the cud of the word is needed. Grow more chambers in your spiritual stomach instead of just being monogastric.

why doesn't Jesus call mary mother or blessed mother or hail her? Please follow Christ not catholic

TheArchangel:
hmmm, you are losing the arguments, now on a merry go round of this and that.

over the years, catholics have turned away from God and started worshipping another god who dwell in statues and sacraments. They forgot all the teaching of Christ and imbued in idolatry. But there's still hope for those who Will go back to Christ and not 'maryianity'

TheArchangel:
You have the encyclopedia of catholic church...Mr onow it all...when did the prayers of Mary started or just shut it cos you are loosing steam.

why did mary offer burnt offerings for Jesus when he was born,wasn't she 'immaculate' as claimed?
Why does Jesus call mary 'woman' instead of blessed mother?

freshboi88:
Now u r changing the narrative... You said images are not bibilical....I have given u passages from sacred scriptures, what else is ur point

there's no point changed. Why did Jesus come to the world if we're going to be honoring statues?

TheArchangel:
Your arguments are without premises. When did the praying to Mary started since you knew so much about it. Meanwhile, your bible started the hailing in the gospel of Luke, Catholics are continuing from there.

like i asked ,why's mary name not in Lord's prayer?

freshboi88:
U r the one who needs your eyes to be open....pls read Joshua 6:7 and 1kings 6:23-37...den come back let's talk

does it mean Christ didn't come at all,died on the Cross and resurrected on the third day? For us to still worship God from afar and burn offerings?

TheArchangel:
I asked you when the praying to Mary started and you are yet to answer that.

doesn't your prayers start with hail mary? What is mary's name doing in a conversation with God?

nuggarito:
Lotta I'd*0ts talking rubbish about Catholics, if I pray to Jesus through mother mary and she grants my prayers , then why the f you Protestants keep masturbating on this issue. You say she's not important but when you want miracles you plead with your pastors to intercede for you to Jesus. The Catholic church has been criticized from every angle, keep on trying, the church will never fall.

mary is dead and long gone , catholics are praying to another entity which uses statues and sacraments as conduits to siphon their spiritual essence QED

Ubenedictus:
nobody prays to an image or chaplet, people may pray in front of it but not to it

if you don't pray TO it why stay IN FRONT OF it?

freshboi88:
U c I want us to get somewerw n we r getting der....so if I ask a living person to pray for me it is okay.......mind u I can't ask an image to pray for me...I pray with a chaplet not d other way round...so to d last part...a dead person.....now Mary been the subject here.....who told u Mary is dead, were did u get tht info??

mary died long ago . Jesus died why won't mary?

SalC:
I've come to realise that people just come here to argue with closed minds and so whatever you say that is not in sync with their preconceived mindset is considered void.

For instance, I read someone on this thread saying he/ she believe in the trinity yet the same person doesn't believe Mary should be called the Mother of God. And you wonder why someone would believe the trinity and by implication believing Jesus is God and yet see it as wrong when the Mother of the same Jesus "God" is called the Mother of God.

did mary come before Jesus?

SalC:
And you didn't read how Protestants massacred Catholics after the Reformation too? So why don't you fear Protestants too?

please present your evidence for this claim of yours or be branded a voracious and blatant lai mohamned

pesinfada:
lol

Dat guy blong

i just tire for the sideways talk the guy dey perform

TheArchangel:
Where is the boy and the worshipping?

sorry that's not the clip. But why do you still call mary virgin after given birth to other children?

TheArchangel:
They don't worship any statue of anybody...you are the one forcing the " perceived worshipping " on them.

http://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7L8rcgP_jJY&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwj3kdmcmoXXAhWLbhQKHfA1AjMQtwIIDA&usg=AOvVaw3lZ4skfZRJ11pCqgRoDeF1

TheArchangel:
Was he worshipping it? You have no knowledge of catholic church? Start from the beginning. !...the reformation and how it spread to the whole world. South American has a big problem with incorporation of their Mayan pagan religion in to the church....so also the Philippines which the church abhors. Read....

so because the poor boy wasn't worshipping it well that's why they didn't tend to him 1st?

Ubenedictus:
I don't need another, that one is enough

as rich as the bible is

TheArchangel:
Catholics dont worship images or any other thing except God. Period. Take it to fort Knox

i once saw a clip of a boy that was almost killed by a statue of mary he was carrying. Instead of saving the boy they were tending to the statue

TheArchangel:
go ahead.

sweet dreams

TheArchangel:
Open the thread he ask you to open so that this thread won't be derail, is it difficult to ask?

never mind i'll do exactly that and tag you guys

Simonchester:
So Old Testament is irrelevant?

why did Christ die on the Cross?

freshboi88:
Create a topic thread for that, then ill school u on that...and mke you see how ignorant u are

concession of the truth is always bitter

Ubenedictus:
if the Israelites could erect images and prostrate before it and still have the spirit, I see no reason why not

that was before Christ. If you continue like that you don't believe in Christ