₦airaland Forum

morpheus24:
I have ben arguing with South Africans on here for years about the same "generalization". IF you doubt it run a search on any of my posts, read through it carefully and see that I force ya''ll to stare your own stereotyping in the face

It is weird that these attacks have now forced some of you to realize this. Strange.

LeSudAfricaine:
Stereotyping is the order of the day on the site. Er...you don't seem to understand my points, I'm merely Stereotyping because evryone is stereotying South Africans as these Xenophobic monsters,while were'not.And I've Interacted with Nigerians a lot sir for your information

LeSudAfricaine:
I actually came to this site to condemn these attacks in the first place. Here's what you don't understand In south África almost everyone bar the Xenophobes themselves, is against these attacks, I know it's something you won't accept but it's true. The reason why I make these generalizations about Nigerians is that Im merely trying to show that generalizing is unfair,because all of a suddenN because I'm South African therefore I'm Xenophobic, I'm merely tryin to apply the same thing to Nigerians so you can see how unfair it is, No South African on this site has justified or supported these actions of a few,

LeSudAfricaine:
I don't Know Nigerians and you Know South Africans? Does'nt that reek of arrogance? How many South Áfricans do you know to reach the conclusion that you know enough about South Africans? How many Nigerians must I encounter for me to finally say I know Nigerians ? How do you even know that I don't know about Nigerians?

LeSudAfricaine:
I don't Know Nigerians and you Know South Africans? Does'nt that reek of arrogance? How many South Áfricans do you know to reach the conclusion that you know enough about South Africans? How many Nigerians must I encounter for me to finally say I know Nigerians ? How do you even know that I don't know about Nigerians?

LeSudAfricaine:
I don't Know Nigerians and you Know South Africans? Does'nt that reek of arrogance? How many South Áfricans do you know to reach the conclusion that you know enough about South Africans? How many Nigerians must I encounter for me to finally say I know Nigerians ? How do you even know that I don't know about Nigerians?

LeSudAfricaine:
and yet you assume I am a product of Bantu education. Double standards

LeSudAfricaine:
Please man Just spare me the lecture, When we South Africans condemn these attacks you call us names, you'have already painted us with the same brush so what's the point? Show me where I justify the maimimg of innocent people! I for one think these attacks are stupidity of the highest order, Instead of coming together Nigerians and South Africans in condemning these acts, what do you do? You call us names as if every South African was involved In these attacks

LeSudAfricaine:
We are very righteous these days are'nt we? Don't tell me about rudeness Nigerians are the epitome of this trait

LeSudAfricaine:
Once again you are assuming, what is it that i'm trying to justify?

PunkyOh:
Ok now you must be insane. Sensitive my àss! Do we all live in the cities where this thing is happening? What exactly do you want us to say? The stuff you see on tv is the same stuff we see on ours because none of us are there to give 1st hand accounts. You here talking like South Africa is a tiny town where everyone knows & sees everything.

Oh & we don't owe you fùck all. If you want more info on this, then stay glued to your tv screen.

LeSudAfricaine:
nna ke bona ekare bae rata Afrika Borwa, waistsi the thing you love most ke yona e o criticize the most

LeSudAfricaine:
I know about the highest number of graduates blah blah! But as soon as any African touches Heathrow airport, degrees and Phd's are the last thing on that country's authorities minds. And who is to blame?

osystein:
look, I wasn't the one who brought must go, go through the thread, must first post here was a reply to your comment about generalizing.

azezola:
Christian committing crimes, it's okay for Christians to kill.

osystein:
That was posted by a Ghanaian obrafour on one of the
xenophobia threads, I didn't know much about the saga before seeing that article. I open altleast 1 article each day on this, so posted that.

osystein:
7 in total, 4 foreigners, 3 south Africans.

This whole thing is tragic, don't think I'm in any way downplaying it, that king should be taken to the ICC, but this isn't the first time this has happened so the anti foreigner sentiment is big. I was just intrigued that you'd talk about not generalizing when that's all you ever do.

14:
The government is to blame, the lessons learned from 2008 xenophobia were never implimented just to avert future xenophobia attacks. SA government has tendency of not listening to the people, so the communities go violent to get government attention. The only thing government learn from 2008 was to minimize loss of lives, in 2008, 62 people were killed, government took long to react to the situation. in 2015, only 6 people have lost their lives. Government moved fast to protect foreigners from attacks.

Durban and KZN province are under control, no further protests reported for the past 4 days. The only concerns are Alexandra township and Jeppestown in joburg, the rest of joburg is safer. Pretoria is safe, cape town is safe, PE is safe. So by wednesday everything would be normal, the challenge would be how the displaced foreigners be returned to their homes, but i guess most of them will move to the safe cities. Its a pity these people have nothing or money. They came to SA for better life, even if they return home, they would be going back into poverty. SA government will be caught in the corner because majority of these people dont have papers. its not gonna be easy, but it was a lesson learned.

If SA tightens immigration laws, we will have more illegal people crossing the border. life ain't plesant north of SA. So people take deadly risk crossing the crocodile infested river to come to SA for better future. It will only get better when african economies improve, in such a way that migrants wont see SA as an economic magnet.

osystein:
You're mistaking me with someone else, where did I mention Ghana must on this thread.

osystein:
Come on, 4 foreigners have been confirmed dead since this started, wouldn't more be dead if most wanted foreigners killed.

osystein:
the bolded, you should take your own advice.

SirShymexx:
So, you agree with me that any foreigner with pale skin is treated like a king in Nigeria, regardless of status. Why is that? Are they better than when you might be more educated and more intelligent than these folks? Well, that is just how the average black person is programmed from Lagos, to Harare, to Cape Town, to London, to New York, and to Montreal.

I did not agree with you , you said white..I gave options that were not whites or Caucasian! and I also said other BLACKS are treated similarly if they are foreigners...Strange you ignored all that? and went 360 from WHITE TO PALE SKIN...SMH#

Not saying what is going on there is right - no one has a right to take the life of the next person. And I condemn it. However, how can you lot be spewing fire and brimstone, getting mad and cursing folks, when worse things happen at ya own backyard among folks from the same country? At least you weren't systematically destroyed the way they were destroyed for generations. Why were at least 250 people brutally murdered in Nigeria over an election? Who do folks use other folks for rituals? Why do people get maimed like rats all the time in Nigeria for no reason? Etc..

Classic case of pot and kettle - which of the two is blacker?

RANDYMUDA:
Well I think the big problem here is generalization , which is the actual problem with SAFRICANS.. White = racist, black foreigner= crime, steal our jobs..

I am sorry but I don't agree with that.. I think every man should speak on their own merits... I don't belive in hating any race... at all.. I also dont serve whites!The fundamental problem with black people is I am the king or I am the local chief ..no one can speak to me! The fact that African rulers can keep robbing their subjects blind and refuse to be accountable is a bigger problem... The day we stop blaming whites for our problem and actually own up to our own mistakes..that day we would move forward...

Nigerians for the most part treat all foreigners as king! tHAT IS WHY INDIANS/Pakistani/Lebanese and even other black persons from other countries hold steady high paying jobs there.. In South Africa ..you would never have that chance and if you do they would hound you!

SirShymexx:
The same reason why they fear their white oppressors is the same reason why a white plumber/peasant can go to Nigeria and he will end up being treated like a king and why a lot of Nigerians suck up to white people. And the same why black folks everywhere form gangs to kill one another - but develop cold feet when it is time to fight the white oppressors.

So, how are you different from them? The average black person is programmed to worship white people. That is ya reality on this planet loool.

Bollinger:
If that is your interpretation of his post, then you been cheated in college/high school and should demand a refund or your tuition fees.

Bollinger:
If that is your interpretation of his post, then you been cheated in college/high school and should demand a refund or your tuition fees.

SirShymexx:
Lol. Great you can see the bigger picture.

I think the fundamental problem with most Nigerians is that they are mostly ignorant and arrogant - and a lot of them don't take time out to study the history of different places before passing judgements, or knowing how to manoeuvre/act. It plays out everywhere.


[i][b]Mostly IGNORANT.BIG FAIL! NIGERIANS ARE FAR FROM BEING IGNORANT OR ARROGANT..PEOPLE ARE JSUT INTIMADATED BY THEM! SOUTHAFRICANS ON THE OTHER HAND WOULD ADMIT TO YOU THAT THEY ARE IGNORANT AND SHALLOW...BECAUSE THEY WERE MAJORLY ISOLATED FROM THE OUTSIDE WORLD FOR YEARS

If you understand South African history you definitely would understand why they are the way they are. The fact that they haven't even started attacking the white settlers in large scale is still a mystery. I think that has more to do with the innate fear apartheid instilled in them subconsciously. They messed those people up - and they are still messed up. And you don't mess with wounded folks like that who are still hurting, unless you want them to eat you alive.