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You see the problem we're talking abt now..See someone saying "virtuous virgin". Those two words don't go together. Whereas virtuous is a character thing built over time. Virginity is jst a physical thing that u lose once under a wide possibility of circumstances. If a girl is a virgin as a matter of principle or what she feels is culture or her principle, I can and will respect that. Atleast she knows what she wants and is going for what she believes in. I will love to marry a decent virtuous woman. And to me, virtuous and decent means not sleeping around ,having a good character, being hardworking, remaining loyal, being committed to the family, training the children well, and other good things. Virginity will not make u virtuous or decent. What our society is trying to make us believe is that once you're a virgin, you're decent and virtuous and perfect and without and should be grabbed like hot cake for marriage. (Nobody is indeed perfect) But what of a woman that u marry a virgin and she makes your life a living hell at home or starts being unfaithful compared to a non virgin that you're comfortable with makes you happy, gives u peace of mind and loves you. I knw one of my friends who jst becos a girl told him she was a virgin he wanted to marry her and he was alredi saying ow nice and decent she was. Some1 he barely knws well. If a girlfriend tells me she's a virgin? I will ask her why. And if she says becos of religion or principles or her culture....I will accept her and accommodate her. But it better not be becos she wants to be forming decent cos then I'll definitely be hittin that.lol.

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Basically what we're saying is that YES we respect virgins. But pple do crazy things wen they are in love and I understand that cos I av been in love too and I cannot be judgemental if my girlfriend is not a virgin becos I'm not one. But then I knw what I want in a woman. Virginity is nt rily a criteria. It won't matter to me in 10 yrs time...Oda things being equal.

ivee22: Ranti Fadahunsi: Abegi, what is with the virgin, non-virgin thingy? Virgins are people who have placed a value on themselves and will not allow just any silly guy to deposit their Fluid inside them, put them at risk of contracting STDs, or spending the last 2 days before their period wondering if one silly guy has gotten them pregnant and they have to go for abortions because the silly guy will either deny the pregnancy or deny his responsibility. Virgins are people who VALUE their body and peace of mind ABOVE 5 minutes of pleasure. If you have a problem with that, then please don't go near them. There are many of us guys who respect such ladies that respect themselves (we know that they most probably have no STDs, have not done any abortions and they are disciplined people that can withstand peer pressure and remain principled. Sleeping with a virgin is not a difficult thing of done at the right time (after you have put a ring on it). And it is a wonderful thing for the guy and the babe. Afterall, non-virgins were once virgins!!!! Please, if you have any inferiority complex because you cannot discipline yourself (only animals have no ability to discipline themselves and want to Be Intimate every time they are in the mood), then go find girls/guys that fit into your shoes and stop disrespecting virtuous virgins!!!! Pshewwwww!!!!

Beautifully put, u v said it all. Its nyc 2knw dt dia r stil guys out dia wu appreciate virgins. Thumbs up.

swiftycool:

Awww come of it jor, with this ur new deffinition of virgins, I can also coin out mine to suit my argument. The dictionary deffination of A true female virgin (sexually)is someone whose hymen has not been broken by a dick so all ur other explanations r just unnecessary jara. From personal experience many supposedly pure virgins have suceeded to only protect their hymen while they have done and keep doing every other thing sexually possible besides viginal sex; like blowjobz, fingerworks* complete naked handling and taking it up d arse. Yes technically, nomatter how u try to twist it, these ones R still virgins, but truly aint worth shite! Hence I stand by my belief, virginity is OVER RATED

ayosmiles: u keep mentionin my daughters thinking it will make me change my mind. Virginity is not and will never be a way of measuring virtue nd sorry, got no apology 4 not allowin society mess with my head. That does not mean i don't respect anybody's decision to b virgin just like anybody could be gay if they want but am not gay. When u talk about happines, it is relative. Wht i said abt clinton nd co has to do with success nd prosperity which can b seen but u are not sure if they r happy cos u cant c them, even d chelsea. Prince harry lived with kate b4 they got married, has anybody in england called her a slut? I know of a sis that married as a virgin nd is yet to give birth while a cousin that got preg b4 weddin had her bouncin baby boy. Infact my mom was already pregnant with my brother b4 d weddin to my father. She was not a slut nd they r still 2gether 30yrs later. Want more?

werthy: i think u are just dumb ayusmile

dani1luv: [size=13pt]Am a virgin [/size]

Ranti Fadahunsi:

Pally, what is your definition of success? Wealth is different from happiness. Happiness occurs when expectation = acquisition. Simple mathematics. The fact that Clinton and co are world leaders does not mean they are happy? Jeez, do you know what Bill put Hillary through with his philandering? Do you know if they are just together because of a political compromise? Do you know a lot of babes think Hillary is stupid for staying with a serial cheater And who told you she si happy? Do you know that Chelsea (Hillary's daughter married a very young, focussed, disciplined hardworking guy (I don't know about their sex life so I will not comment about that). It shows that everybody wants the best for themselves and their family. There has been no news of Chelsea sleeping all over the place and no news of her husby sleeping all over the place. Pally, being a virgin and waiting for the right man who values you, will wait for you and put a ring on it before he starts asking for sex gives the babe complete peace of mind. Freedom from unwanted emergencies. And peace of mind helps your happiness. To each his own jare. Just preach your message to your daughters. I pray they take after their father. Chikena.

ayosmiles: U just won't get it. Virginity is not what makes u successful in life. Look at d most successful women in d world. Havin pleasure does not mean u are not responsible. Do hilary nd merkel have to be virgins b4 they got there. Stay there and don't live life 2 d fullest. Gals keep self servicin in ur closet while more socialy conscious folks enjoy their lives with wisdom nd live good lives. The world is changin, pls stay yoked to tradition. Just don't wake up 2morow nd say u have missed nd ur life is borin

tgirl1986: Later the same women who say they cannot marry a virgin man would come to NL and complain that their husbands are cheating on them. And ask questions like: "Do all men cheat?"..forgetting that in MOST cases, it is a fornicator that graduates to an adulterer..shm

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Ayosmiles as said it all... @ranti why will I specifically tell my children or daughter to engage in pre marital sex...I have no business in doing that. If they get pregnant b4 18 the blame lies directly on me becos they r constantly under my roof and under my care. And whatever baggage she brings into the house in the name of a teenage pregnancy will be my responsibility too. When a child is under your care as a parent you're expected to make decisions that will secure their future. But once a child is leaving home for the tertiary institution they are basically on their own as u cnt be there all the time... So the onus lies on me to teach them the effect and consequences of their actions while they are under my care. If she is sleeping with her bf as long as she doesn't get and STD pregnant or it doesn't stop her schooling ow will I knw. And if she wants to follow religion or culture and abstain frm pre marital sex...It's also her choice. I'm actually referring to 'her' a lot becos it is women that r most affected. It is she dat will get pregnant. It is she that will stop her schooling or go under the knife for an abortion that may destroy her womb.
Are u trying to tell us that they r no virtueuos non virgin women that are everything a particular man wishes for? Or that non virgin women find it difficult to marry. Those r the things that are important. Unless ofcourse u want to involve religion and culture in the issue. But analytically it's no different as long as her womb is not spoilt or she has not had a son b4 marrying or an STI. Plus pple change. Life is abt choices. So.....

ayosmiles: getting a gal disvirgined often starts this way.

ayosmiles: my daughter will be free to decide what she wants when she is old enough whether to b sexualy active or otherwise. I don't detest virgins i just don't place a value on it. Ur being a virgin will not make me want u if u lack good manners nd stop paintin nonvirgins as indisciplined or lose. what does sex have to do with discipline. A lose girl is one with multiple sx partners nd unhealthy sexual attitudes like not usin contraceptives. U can be a nonvirgin nd be more disciplined. Its just like sayin because too much sugar causes pile u now say sugar is bad. Dude d only way u can win dis argument is to use religion nd culture, and both are created by human beings.

Jaykizz:

Wen u gv birth, kan u adv ur female child or evn ur younger sister to b bleepin guys around? Or kan u evn brng guyz to ur house to sleep wit dem?
If nt den u r a BLOODY HYPOCRITE N U NID TO B BOOKD.
Onila I respekt virgins a lot. Jst continu to b 1 til d ryt guy puts d ring into ur finger n u'l knw au secure u her wit ur hobby coz he'l neva 4 once tink u'l b sleepin around wit ur boss at d off.

rokiatu:
You are a guy? Oh wow you just won a fan in me.

rokiatu:

Post f the century. Seun should put this in Nairaland hall of fame or something.

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Why should I celebrate a virgin. Did she win an award. Or was she promoted @ work? Abeg.. Plus some pple always practice safe sex. And I think women should insist on safe sex cos it affects them the most.

Himi15:
I have the fear of God, but HELL NO i wont even date not to think of marrying a virgin guy. its eeewwwh[color=#990000][/color]

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Read my post well....I said there is no difference not that a non virgin is better. Even if she has commited abortion b4 as long as it as not affected her womb (I'm not in no way supporting/discouraging abortion) ow will I knw except she tells me. Some virgins get married and find it difficult having children. Same for non virgins...Being a virgin doesn't mean u're virtueous or hardworking or that u are a good person either. It may jst make me assume that u either are heady or u knw what u want. I knw non virgins that her wonderful pple too so wat the fuss...And before getting married pple usually do STD tests...So in summary...The questions I'll like to ask a person I want to marry her 1. Does she truly love me and believe in me?
2. Will she be faithful and will she stay?
3. Is she hardworking and an asset not a liability?
4. Is she a good christian?
5. Am I comfortble with her
6. Is she presentable and hospitable
7. Can she bear me children and train them?
And all these av nothing to do with virginity. If she is a virgin and inexperienced I cn teach her wat I knw...If she is experienced...no wahala too...Something I av noticed is that virgin girls believe that they are "special" and we shud give them standing ovation or something. It's character that matters. You will lose ur virginity in jst one sex encounter so wat the fuss.

owanku:



Discipline?! If I decide not 2 be a virgin or marry one, how does that make me undisciplined? Who're u 2 judge people's choices in a supposedly free world? My sisters and other female relatives live their lives as they wish (which is the way it's supposed 2 be) and my kids (as agreed with my wife) will be independent once they're 18 and make their own choices. Good or bad, they will live with them. People need to remove the logs in their eyes b4 looking for the speck in other peeps eyes.

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U're talking as if girls don't enjoy sex too...Not acceptable.

ayosmiles: that u have taken time to type dis shows d strenght of wht u believe in. Human being is a psychosocial being nd his beleifs are usuall shaped by existin norms in his society. U think dis way becos of ur background, ur religion nd tradition which may sometimes contradict reality. I have always believed sex is not d problem but sexual behaviours. Havin sex does not make u less of a person but indiscriminate sx nd unsafe sexual practices does. Thus a more sexualy educated person is able to engage in safe sex practices. Reality has shown dat hiv is more prevalent in africa where women are poorer, less educated nd less independent than europe where women are more liberal nd educated, nd so have access to safe sex nd contraceptives like condoms. So, negative outcome in life is not a result of premarital sex but a combination of several factors includin social norms and wrong decisions just like takin too much sugar might make u sick doesn't mean sugar is bad just dat u do everythin in moderation.

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Whether virgin oooo...Or non virgin ooo...All na the same thing. Both have advantages and disadvantages...A virgin will be inexperienced but u cn TRY and assume she will not cheat and most likely be satisfied with whatever sex u give her since no basis of comparism...A non virgin will be more experienced but may av a basis of comparism...Being a non virgin doesn't mean the person is lose. It may even be one guy she has slept with b4... Since losing virginity is a one time thing...So in conclusion I dnt rily care if she is a virgin or not as long as she is faithful, loves me and is compatible...If she is a virgin it's her decision.

ayosmiles: I don't really see d diff btw virgin nd non-virgin. Virginity does not confer any virtue on u as far as am concerned. Whts d diff btw a virgin dats given ten guyz bj nd smooched 20 guyz, nd a non virgin dats only been with one guy dat she loved. I thnk placin 2 much value on virginity makes us blind to greater virtues in women. This thing is just a thin membrane. Atimes it doesn't just cover d kitty, it also covers d eyes of d suitor nd makes him abyssmaly blind to her flawed character. That is why more liberal societies are usually more advanced than d conservative, hypocritical ones.

ayosmiles: Life is not as simple as u make it seem. Some of the bookworms in my school then are still lookin 4 job or masters while many of d more sociable ones now own their businesses nd earn well. Some of the gals formin decent nd not outgoin are still waiting for suitors while some of d more socialy conscious ones are now married to d men of their dreams with kids.

justsmile:

don't mind them my dear! like them gals were disvirgined from the womb! tomorrow it will still be the same guys that will come and complain of how loose chicks are! pls if u don't like virgins then leave them! abi na them virgins dey pursue u?! o ga o! Virgins this Virgins that........ Abeg go find a more articulate article to write.... We have many issues confronting the world @ OP

owanku:


Nwoke m carry ur medicine drink!! U just dey sound like u were forcefully disvirgined as a guest at Kirikiri. U've chosen ur side on this topic so there's no need 4 u 2 bash those who hold contrary views 2 yours. "One man's meat na anoda man poison". The fact that I will never date nor marry a virgin does not mean that I detest them, just my choice. I'm a grown a ss man and I know what I want in a woman and a virgin isn't on that list. FYI I've popped 3 cherries and av sworn never 2 do it again 4 very personal reasons. All man to im own and IMO, a virgin is more likely 2 cheat after marriage (wondering what other bulalas be like)

onila:

u make me wanna keep my virginity more

UncleJJ: i think you should convert to mohammedanism, kill yourself then go to heaven and sleep with em virgins