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sekundosekundo:
A confused man have spoken.

lol..i knw ur type..u wanna play pascal's wager...after 32 years..when u knw say u dn de die na im u cm convert?..stories that touch..pascal's wager wont work for u...my friend u will burn in hell...
Weyrrey

janellemonae:
Dts d reason I'm not having a religious argument wt anyone here. Religion can't be proven. God can't be proven. Dts why it's called faith. Some accept it by birth or by a confluence of experiences they can't quite explain. It makes no sense to the human mind. Dts d truth, so no point arguing dt or convincing anyone.

exactly...i like ur style

naijadeyhia:
Abeg let me grab my popcorn and pepsi and listen to this movie being told.

ye..its a bloody movie...the earth being a sphere discovered by scientists ..i also love that movie...or is it the movie that men left earth and went to the moon...i remember that funny movie...
Lets all grab popcorns and wait for the next movie...
Keep on tryna deceive ur brain into thinking so..

sekundosekundo:
At least I believe in Almighty God but can you tell me who you believe in. And mind you, you were never a Christian but a church goer. Only a FOOL says ther's no God. Atheists are the most brainwashed and most confused people on earth.

lol...for u to say u were an atheist and say attheist are confused?...man u do not knw what atheism is...and u never were...its eida a lie..or u have been delusioned all ur life
what do i believe in?...i believe that ur book is a lie-book constructed by man...even the compilation of the bible was done by man....even now o...asin enternal delusion na im u de so...i dnt have ur time...
.keep on being delusional...its in u

naijadeyhia:
I am AA and I never suffer from malaria so how come?

So now you no longer want to argue about goats milk abi? Now you are shifting the goal post again. Amazing people.

shey i said ure mind is unsettled?..keep on displaying it for us to see....u asked me to research the left hand dna..i did..bt nw uve seen tthat m giving u truth..bt u refuse to open up ur mind...m nt a religionist..m nt coercing u to anytin...believe what u want...it doesnt change thee price of tomatoes in my area...bt when ever u wanna do facts..im always here...

naijadeyhia:
You do realise that no human is resistant to malaria right? Keep on posting.

http://lightyears.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/03/best-evidence-so-far-that-humans-are-still-evolving-scientists-say/
We could potentially know for sure in the next 20
years—we have a satellite (the Planck satellite)
surveying space for the patterns in background
radiation that the prominent theories on the origin
of the universe predict. It’s a long process, but once
we have that radiation pattern, we could have a better understanding of how our universe began—
and how it will end.

naijadeyhia:
You do realise that no human is resistant to malaria right? Keep on posting.

U seem to think evolution is smtin like a winged animal giving birth to a wingless one...it is a
evolution is not some magical transformation that
happens in the wild to dim-witted creatures,
propelling them ever towards greater complexity. Evolution is just the observation that creatures
change over time because varieties that do best at
surviving and reproducing in a given environment
are more able to pass their genetic traits on to the
next generation... Technology is part of evolution, as
is poetry and economics, in so far as they affect survival and reproduction, and can be passed on
genetically. Those races that use technology in
order to better survive and reproduce are able to
pass along their technology-minded genes to the
next generation....Weather forecasters can't predict
what a handful of elements in the sky will do a
week from now, so predicting what the complex
web of humanity will become in hundreds of years
is out of the question.it is very unlikely at this point in human
evolution that we will sprout wings, a third arm, or
purple skin. The survival advantages of such major
morphological changes have long been surpassed
by applications of human intelligence. Humans can
already use their brains to build airplanes. There is therefore no survival advantage we would gain
from growing wings. Any disadvantage that
humans have because of basic structure has been
compensated for by human-made machines. The
future of human evolution will therefore most likely
involve the brain and the chemical/hormonal systems that support the brain..
.http://web4health.info/en/aux/homo-sapiens-future.html
clink the link its frm a different webpage

naijadeyhia:
You do realise that no human is resistant to malaria right? Keep on posting.

pls do research on this..i beg u..i didnt jst spew this like im havin a visit to the toilet
..

bolicks:
RaphieMontella lol...making noah ark proving the bible is correct...this guy has an A1 in stupidity...m guessing he used wooden nails and stones to make the arrk...lol bunch of deluded fools..pure evidence of the height of delusiion the story book they read cann cause...using modern day equipment to build and yet claimint it was so somee thousannd years ago...noah's ark in the bible is jst a bed night story people..complete bullshvt...christians the better u begin to open ur eye and reject delusion...the better...ve been readding comments nd jst been laughing christians talkin shvt...baby animals ni adult animals ko..
Maa go sip alomo till a better thread shows up joor. Hmmmmm. No wonder, you really never made it life. The fool says there is no God.

lol i never rreally made it in life?...
lol deranged creature..dats the simplest definition of urself...theres ntin in this life i ever needed nd didnt get....been toppin my age counterparts since i was a kid..so wats ur base?....
Its eida stupidity has been passed down in ur bloodline for ages now or u jst chose to be stupid...bt one tin is sure...
Stupidity....its inn u

naijadeyhia:
Again you just spewed ignorance as someone who does not even understand what I just posited. I will not bother anymore.

But will end with this.... if life is still evolving what then is the end position of this evolution? They say we have a beginning but what is our end? Manure? Continuous evolution till we disappear? Or grow wings? Or what?

What is the end of the evolutionary process. Let me test your reasoning ability with that.

All life on earth is constantly evolving: the process
doesn't stop. As living things, humans are still
evolving. Since we became Homo sapiens, has
evolution changed us in any way? Actually, yes.
Thousands of genes have evolved recently (in the
last 40000 years). Changes we are seeing include smaller brains (more efficient, not dumber),
resistance to diseases, increases in ADHD, and blue
eyes. Yes, blue eyes. Genetic analysis says the first
blue-eyed human appeared 6000-10000 years
ago somewhere in the Black Sea region. For
whatever reason, the phenotype became very popular (conferring a 5% greater chance for
reproduction) and today about half a billion blue-
eyed folk exist.
Another famous example is HgbS (sickling
hemoglobin), a gene that makes humans immune
to malaria. Malaria is the number one killer of humans, so it makes sense that a mutation
eventually arose that makes human red blood cells
resistant to the malaria parasites, and for the gene
to rise in frequency in malaria-prone populations
(Sub-saharan Africa). Unfortunately, the same gene
also causes sickle cell anemia. We all have two copies of every gene in our body (one from mom,
one from dad), and if one copy is the malaria-
resistant mutant HgbS, you're fine, but if both are
the mutant you get sickle cell disease. The good
news is that many other genes confer resistance to
malaria, and we are also seeing leprocy and tuberculosis resistance genes appearing too.
Another example is the gene for lactose tolerance.
Primitive man would drink milk as a baby, then
never again, so the amount of lactase enzyme
(which breaks down a common sugar in milk)
would fall after a few years of age. Over time, however, humans have evolved so that certain
populations will keep producing the enzyme into
late adulthood. As expected, the lactose-tolerant
trait appears most often in the regions where dairy
farming arose first and became an important part of
the diet (Caucasians). Tolerance for milk is supposed to have evolved only 3000-8000 years
ago, and is now found in nearly 95% of North
Europeans.
Our mouths are changing too. They are getting
smaller and more bullet shaped. Our teeth aren't
quite changing as fast, which is why orthodontistry and wisdom teeth removal still exist… for now.
More and more people are being born without
wisdom teeth, or have their wisdom teeth erupt
later if at all. Wisdom teeth were useful before
knives and cooking, when humans would
probably lose molars to chewing hard food and needed the wisdom teeth as replacements. Today,
35% of people lack wisdom teeth, although the
genes involved in this are unknown so we aren't
quite sure why this is happening yet.

janellemonae:
My eyes are much more open dn an atheists mind. There's no way ur a deep thinker and never get stuck at d perpetual never ending question of "how did dt get there?". If ur deeply philosophical, dt question eventually leads to apathy & an agnostic belief, which I have much respect for dn atheism to be honest. In my opinion u can't have a truly inquiring mind and be an atheist. Take a closer look at the universe. It's really amazing.

atheism is simply the rejection of an idea that god exists..its nt a religion..so long u claimm there is no god..then u re one..an atheist may have a verry inquisitive mind another may not...its all in the human brain different choices...bt if u wanna follow a religion then be able to prove it if nt u follow u religion on ur own nt tryna coerce someone into believing what u cant prove...sm believe in science...some choose to believe notin..its all in u

@naijadeyhia...
Notin stopped life frm evolving tru right hand amino acids...bt it cud be a case of favourable selection by various agents....it cud be the right handed ones were nt suitable and invariably died off and led to a specialization of left handed onces...the evolutionists annd ur source are all assumin...because modern day tecch hasnt gotten to that potential yet..
If i recall i told u evolution aint complete yet..bt in the not distant future..it certainly can be completed or a more clearer theory be stated...thats science for u...the earth was once believe to have been formed trru a steady earth theory bt tuday the big banng disproved that...
So like i always say...the minnd is frree to believe what it chooses...bt one tin is sure...science has the best proof abt the creation of life

naijadeyhia:
Wow indeed you have no idea what DNA is do you? Allow me to give you a simple crash coursd on DNa.

Let us suppose that, as evolutionists suggest, there actually was some way for organic, biologically important molecules to have formed in a significant quantity on a primitive Earth. An indescribable mess would have been the result. In addition to the 20 different amino acids found in proteins today, hundreds of other kinds of amino acids would have been produced. In addition to deoxyribose and ribose, the five-carbon sugars found in DNA and RNA today, a variety of other five-carbon sugars, four-carbon, six-carbon, and seven-carbon sugars would have been produced. In addition to the five purines and pyrimidines found in DNA and RNA today, a great variety of other purines and pyrimidines would exist.

Further, of vital significance, the amino acids in proteins today are exclusively left-handed, but all amino acids on the primitive Earth would be 50% left-handed and 50% right-handed. The sugars in DNA and RNA today are exclusively right-handed, but, if they did exist, sugars on a primitive Earth would have been 50% right-handed and 50% left-handed. If just one right-handed amino acid is in a protein, or just one left-handed sugar is found in a DNA or RNA, all biological activity is destroyed. There would be no mechanism available on a primitive Earth to select the correct form.

This fact alone destroys evolution. Evolutionists have been wrestling with this dilemma since it was first recognized, and there is no solution in sight. All these many varieties would compete with one another, and a great variety of other organic molecules, including aldehydes, ketones, acids, amines, lipids, carbohydrates, etc. would exist. If evolutionists really claim to simulate plausible primitive Earth conditions, why don't they place their reactants in a big mess like this and irradiate it with ultraviolet light, shock it with electric discharges, or heat it, and see what results? They don't do that because they know there wouldn't be the remotest possibility that anything useful for their evolutionary scenario would result. Rather, they carefully select just the starting materials they want to produce amino acids or sugars or purines or whatever, and, furthermore, they employ implausible experimental conditions that would not exist on a primitive Earth. They then claim in textbooks and journal articles that such and such biological molecules would have been produced in abundant quantities on the early earth.

the amino acids in proteins today are exclusively left-handed, but all
amino acids on the primitive Earth would be 50%
left-handed and 50% right-handed. The sugars in
DNA and RNA today are exclusively right-handed,
but, if they did exist, sugars on a primitive Earth
would have been 50% right-handed and 50% left- handed. If just one right-handed amino acid is in a
protein, or just one left-handed sugar is found in a
DNA or RNA, all biological activity is destroyed
what u jjst did is copy out an assumption frm an assumer..invariably no difference between the evolutionist and ur source....

sekundosekundo:
You can call me names but I was like you an Atheist just accept this fact.

okay o..since u wanna talk that way...okay...
I was once a christian like u...jst accpt this fact also...lol
u found god..can u prove?...better not use ur bibble if nt u wud have jjst killed urself befre u begun..its ur same story book that i'ld finish u off wit...

MrPresident1:
Bullseye! , there is no man who knows the mind of God at this time who is not completely depressed, so you see, you hit home!
How do you think I am able to identify you? It is by that same knowledge that causes depression . THE DEAD WILL RISE AGAIN, and you are finished.

Christ is risen from the dead and become the firstfruits of them that slept

Now answer the question, slimy piece of s.hit, since Noah's ark and his animals are literal stories, surely, creation was also in 6 literal days, isn't it?

noah ark story is a story...the creation of the world is also a piece of junk...

naijadeyhia:
If you did research then you would know that we have 98% DNA similarity with apes but DNA not being a living thing cannot evolve another life from it and that 2% advantage we have are actually about 3 billion chromosomes and these chromosomes are either left handed or righthanded in aminos and proteins and must be perfectly positioned which can never occur randomly.

If I give you the analysis here you would probably need a scientific calculator and a science referencd book to understand me and the the whole thing.

You do not know science bro.

..its actually 95-99 percent mmister man..
Also i never said dna is a living thingg..u made that up...
I never said dna evolves into another dna..
I dnt knw if by ur statement abt chromosones ur tryna say chromosones are found in dna...its the reverse...also i dnt knw science?...i cant argue that..jst a conclusion of an unsettled mind...
Dna is also used in evidencing shared ancestry of living tinz..
Dna is the blueprint of all living tinz...its the storage of information and instrucctions on hw creation of cells..living tinz function..growth etc..so i tink u better understand well before u quote someone..

naijadeyhia:
This whole thing you are arguing about is obviously light years ahead of your understanding. Those who understand do. So in this statistic if you alone do not understand I will borrow a leaf from your beloved science's law of natural selection and leave you behind.

Enjoy your life.

lol...man dntt mis quote me..i never said i didnt understand...i said i may have put my wrriting down in poor english

naijadeyhia:
So everything came from nothing and the nothing became everything?

go read up ur big bang...u still dont get the picture yet...

naijadeyhia:
Show me the fossils and the fossil traces? Unlike you some of us do read and research and not just swallow any and everything.

Science itself has said their theory on evolution is inconclusive so where are your conclussions coming from?

I think your mind is playing tricks on you.

lol..by inconclusive..i mean lil facts needed to be added etc...go to wikipedia and search human..u will have the evidence u need on fossils....thats all i can tell u...im nt sure u did ur research man..if u did u wud begin to ask urself why u share a 95-99 percent dna similarity wit apes...pls do ur reasearch before u quote me..or ask me reasonable questions..thats why i said it will be...common man wtf u sayin sef?...sayin science cant conclude is like sayin u refuse to believe u can see someone in usa tru video call because it hadnt been done when u were three years old...

naijadeyhia:
I guess you also either did not read the link or you did not see where I helped him highlight his area of interest in the link which is why he shut himself up.
Some of you are actually under an illusion that anything you say makes sense simply because what the other person said sounds ridiculous to you. I suggest you read the link yourself because some fish are self fertilizing and kittens drink goats milk and a komodo dragon is self ferrilizing.
Go and get educated

this human is bemused...he said many species of fish self fertilize...u showed him it was one...what does that mean..he lied..tho not completely bt he did...kittens drink goat milk...unprocessed cow milk to humans is dangerous...or where there only kittens on the ark?...u fink m delusional?..i actually tink ure the person who needs to knw his stand or forget abt commenting....u forgot exitinct animals once exxisted?...eg dinosaurs...take two of each species of dinosaurs and tell me the space left on the ark?..many other huge extinct species...
Ok..take a look at the story in the bible...pls tell me how an olive tree survives such a marvelous flood...
Such a flood...with no archaelogical evidence of smtin like conncentrated /huge washed up fossils of animals/humans / buildings etc..dunno if i put this last sentence corrrectly in terms of english..jst think for urself man....

sekundosekundo:
I was like you, in fact my parents were Atheists I mean my father and my mother. Atheists are the most brainwashed on the planet earth. I have a huge documentary on Atheist very soon I will upload it here. I came out Atheism in April 2010. Pls I urge you to come out. I was an Atheist for 32 good years. Let me stop here. Take your Tongue and count your teeth.

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Lol...u can stop where ever u want..lol..ion give a fvck..u and ur white mans unprovable religion...biblical retards

naijadeyhia:
What if I say you are evolutions left over trash? Since you want to hold brief for the big bang, show me one proof. I don't want theories o and I dont want assumptions. I want proof.

the big bang theory has its proofs...intact...google is awt there for u to check it..or wikipedia...i dnt have the luxury to do so and bring it to u...m nt tryna convert u to being an atheist..lol..thats the difference between christians and an open minded person..
Evolution also has its proofs..tho not complete yet...fossils are being found year in year out...and better tech are being made also...thats the beauty of science..notin is impossible...it may nt be completely possible to do so now..bt it is...so u have to choose ur path urself..
Every man with his will to life and belief...i rejected being deluded..

DJHANDSOME:
I think he should have had himself thoroughly beaten and nailed on a cross to prove Jesus story was TRUE. mitchwwww

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janellemonae:
Word. I believe in d bible & also believe in science. I believe in evolution but definitely not d Big Bang theory. One of my hobbies is watching science research documentaries. I too have read a lot & agree wt everything u wrote here. Even physicists are amazed at d order & patterns in d universe. The more u learn d more u realize nothing is random.

As a Russian scientist once said "I don't believe in miracles in d sense of d word, I believe there's a law governing everything, it might be a higher law and it only appears as a miracle because I don't understand it yet".

That's a logical statement, but not contradictory to faith. I just don't get d pride in atheism. Science doesn't in anyway disprove d concept of intelligent design.

open ur eyes more and u wud see..frget religion..its a white man's left over trash...
The earlier the better...the big bang has pure evidences

Lagazine:
You are a confused human being. U need to think very well before u react to a sensible discussion like this. Anyway, if u don't believe, go to Turkey, u will see d real Ark of Noah on d mountain Hararat. Stupid bigot.

some discovered it in 2010..other 1977..lol...
Some refused to disclose its locations..the others said sm funny tinzz....the carbon dating of some showed it to be over 6k years old...some(noah' ark ministries)precisely said it was 4800 years old...wow...bunch of wavering stuffs upon stuffs...all i saw were inconclusive stories..the most baffling was the discoverry of nails lol..metal nails...how that came to be at that time baffles me.....u guyz shud find smtin more comprehensive...rubbish

wirinet:
You make fallacious generalizations, and when someone points out your obvious errors, you then show links showing rare or one off examples to justify your fallacy.

This is what you wrote;


But this is what the link you provided wrote;

It seems you did not even read the link you provided.

The same thing with your self fertilization fallacy.
You wrote this;

But on Google search I only found just one specie of fish that is said to be capable of self fertilization.

thumbs up...u kkilled him...thats what they all do..bring stupid proofs...they dont have a single proof abt the bible...the nexxt tin he will start tellin u
May god have mercy on u...or i will remember u in ur prayers...mtcheew

sekundosekundo:
The Almighty God have the capacity to do things that are beyond human understanding. Including your conception and delivery. It's only a FOOL that says there's no God.

lol...another brainwashed mammal...is that the only passage u can remember in ur storybook?...lol read urr bible man...u'd knw its jst a story book to entertain a bored man...

lol...making noah ark proving the bible is correct...this guy has an A1 in stupidity...m guessing he used wooden nails and stones to make the arrk...lol bunch of deluded fools..pure evidence of the height of delusiion the story book they read cann cause...using modern day equipment to build and yet claimint it was so somee thousannd years ago...noah's ark in the bible is jst a bed night story people..complete bullshvt...christians the better u begin to open ur eye and reject delusion...the better...ve been readding comments nd jst been laughing christians talkin shvt...baby animals ni adult animals ko..
Maa go sip alomo till a better thread shows up joor

Swazzkid:
used amplified version N I didn't see pillars...so wats ur point ..I said earlier you know d truth.. pls stop doubting yourself.. * cased closed * don't bother to quote me coz I just discovered u know d truth.. find yourself Bro *....CASE CLOSED

lol...amplifiedd version?..and u wanna lie u didnt see pillars?...i can restate them back for u o...if u really wanna say that..i'll state them bak for u..and u snap it to me thats there's no pillars...even in reviseddd standard and ggood news the pillars were statedd..wat u saying?...u forggot the bible has been modiifed to fit the needds of the church for generatiions now and even in the future will...some books were scrapped off the bible..do ur research..i always tell u this....
U saaid i knw the truth?...lol yeah..that the bible is shvt and no such tin as god....why i said that there's truth in the bible is because of passages like isiah 40:22 which said the circle of the earth....bt its highly possible it was modified and t was changed to circle..that i dnt really knnw...because take job for example...no sane humann wud say the earth hangs of pillars and later says it hangs on nothing...t cud be a case of rewritten to make the bible seem true...or arre u sayin ur ggod is confuseed on what he created?..lol..rubbish upon rubbish...
If i tell u i bought a torchlight fone for 1mil dollars wud u believe me?...and laterr on u saw me wit the torchlight fone and i tell u its nt a torchlight fone that its an iphone 7..wont u say am a mad lier?...and i later told u i didnt buy the fone that i dnt even knw if it is a phone or tell u its an oven nt a phone..what wud u call me?...
The tin is...ur bible is a story book created by humans to fool other humans because the human minnd wud always long for a connection etc...i for list reasons give u..bt no need... U can search up the human brain etc urself or forgett.....
One more thing..if u wanna follow a god....find its authencity and if its true...nt sm lame proofs....like showing me a blue color and tryna convince me it is red...
Uve been tryna close the case for long..ts what a christian who cant prove his god is real does...they always shy away when they beginn to realise they have no true proof...so betterr close it...i understand cant do any better...
The earlier u realise and reject delusion the better forr u

[quote author=Swazzkid post=47549100][/quote]u made case of where the bible said abt the earth being circular..bt u refuse to acknowledge that ur bible also claimed it to be flat...and when u showed job which said the earth hangs on nothing u didnt prove me wrong in the plaaces it said the world hangs on pillars...and foundations..
why?..because u ccannot and its the simple truth..the bible has some true sayings which i do knw of..bt the lies outweigh the lil truth in it simply because it was human mind who wrote them..oh are u tellin me that the same job who said the job which said the earth hangs on pillars and later said it hangs on notin was high on wee*d when he said the former?...shey na god guide am take d wee*d as he de write am ni abi na me?

Swazzkid:
hmmmm re you tired or convinced? nyways from Google as u demanded check https://answersingenesis.org/answers/books/taking-back-astronomy/the-universe-confirms-the-bible/

tired ke convinced ke?...what did u bring to convince me?..not a single stuff..if u were bringing good defense to ur faith..all uve done is simply say..
Dude u misquote the bible..well lol..tired? M tired of tthat...m tired that u cannon defend ur faith and m tired that u keep tellin mme the sun moves round the earth rising frm east to west ...,,m tired u keepp on sayin misquotin d bible which u fail to prove...m tayad that of aall the fallacies i gave u abt ur bibble...u prove me wrong in each step by step bible verse by bibble verse...even if u cant do all cs u cant u made no effort at doing so...no half no qquaarter...this shows u cant defend ur faith and ur god...ur lucky ur god doesnt exist...if not he wud be very angry wit u and who knws may have sent 4 lions to maul u...no offence to u..m jst sayin it cs accordinng to ur story bbook he does so....
Religion is a family passed down stuff..simple truth..religion factions the mind of the child into bbelieving such jargons..when u cann defend ur bible..then i will start stating my facts completely cs former ones have been of no use

Swazzkid:
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did u See filament in dat verse? no I didn't see.. oh sorry science ======= ASSUMPTIONS. hahaha

firmament i didnt see..bt in other passages in the bible..firmament was a kinda separation tool/mark of heaven frm earth and of the lower waters of earth and the higher waters supposedly kept in heaven...thats why i said so...k..lets assume am wrong...what abt the moon producing its own light?..and the billions of stars falling unto earth? I used firmmament inn my exxplanation..i never said it was in the original verse..now who's misquoting who?...al u say is i misquoted this...o misquoted that..bt u have apparently not a preview of proof