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Car TalkRe: I Am Confused Which One Is Better? Camry 2001 Or Honda Accord 2001/2002 by Realpoint(m): 5:27pm On Jul 06, 2008
@all,

Well done guys on your contribution so far on this topic. Please which one is the best between Accord 1997(96) and Camry 1996?
AutosRe: 1997 Toyota Camry V6 For Sale (N1000,000) by Realpoint(m): 5:20pm On Jul 06, 2008
@Uwadiegwu1 ,

Please send the pics to my mail: ademustay1423@yahoo.com.

Thanks
AutosRe: Car Experts: Nissan Altima 2000, Toyota Camry 1996, Honda Accord(bulldog) 1997 by Realpoint(m): 5:09pm On Jul 06, 2008
@Fhemmmy ,

How much can you get good and neat Honda Accord 1997(or 1996) to Nigeria or Cotonou.Give me last price.My E-mail is ademustay1423@yahoo.co.uk

Likewise which car is the best between Accord 1997(96) and Camry 1996.Please expert comment on it.
AutosRe: Rover 600 Dash Board by Realpoint(m): 10:00pm On Jun 13, 2008
@ Siena ,

Please how much will it cost to convert 1999 Honda Civic LHD
BusinessRe: Shipping Goods From Usa To Nigeria - Which Is The Cheapest? by Realpoint(m): 6:07pm On Apr 13, 2008
@wweekes,

I have send a mail to you now as per how much it will cost me to ship a Toyota Corolla 2001 to Lagos from USA. Please reply on time.
Jobs/VacanciesHow Well Do Interconnectnigeria Pay Their Staffs by Realpoint(op): 2:44pm On Mar 06, 2008
Please is there anyone in the house that knows how well Interconnectnigeria(ICN) pay their staffs. Anyone who has this information should assist me on it.My e-mail is ademustay1423@yahoo.co.uk.It is an urgent issue please.
AutosRe: Honda Accord (86 Model) For Sale At 200k by Realpoint(m): 11:16am On Jan 19, 2008
@aiky,
Please put the pics online for us to see.Not everybody reside close to Lagos my bros like me I live in Kano so do as abbey10 said.
Car TalkSuv (sport Utility Vehicle) by Realpoint(op): 10:54am On Jan 14, 2008
Hi All,
Can anybody advise on any SUV (Sport Utility Vehicle)? I am interested ISUZU, CR-V, Grand Cherokee Jeep, but I do not have knowledge of any of these. Please your inputs are vital.
Thanks
Jobs/VacanciesRe: How Nestle Conduct Their Engineers' Test by Realpoint(op): 1:36pm On Jan 07, 2008
@all,
Thanks alot for all your concern.It not too late my brother kaliphman.
Jobs/VacanciesRe: How Nestle Conduct Their Engineers' Test by Realpoint(op): 9:42am On Jan 07, 2008
@bennygee,
I also applied for Post sales service specialist as well.My e-mail is ademustay1423@yahoo.co.uk or send your phone number so that I can call you.Thanks for your brotherly concern.
Jobs/VacanciesHow Nestle Conduct Their Engineers' Test by Realpoint(op): 6:02pm On Jan 06, 2008
Please anyone in the house that knows how Nestle Nig.Plc Engineer Test used to look like should assist in putting me through because I have a test with them on Friday.
EducationRe: National Open University of Nigeria by Realpoint(m): 10:01pm On Jun 29, 2007
@larryoncol

I am in Kano State and haven't get where to buy my scratch card for now. Maybe you will buy for me if I can't get it in the next two weeks.
EducationRe: National Open University of Nigeria by Realpoint(m): 9:19am On Jun 28, 2007
@larryoncol,

I called some of their co ordinator yesterday and they promised that everything is okay.That their problem was due to inaddicuate planning so let us hope that they will perform better now while risking our 2500 naira.
EducationRe: National Open University of Nigeria by Realpoint(m): 7:25am On Jun 27, 2007
@all,

Please I need to know if National Open University of Nigeria is doing fine now because many of my friend that started it in 2003 and 2005 respectively have to leave after so many disappointment.
I wish to put in for Computer Science or Communication Technology.Please guys advise me on what to do either to buy form or not.
EducationRe: National Open University of Nigeria by Realpoint(m): 11:36pm On Jun 26, 2007
@all

You guys are doing a very wonderful work with all these useful information as regards NOUN. More power to your elbow.
AutosRe: Used Cars Wanted by Realpoint(m): 8:12pm On Jun 21, 2007
@ Sultaan,
Thanks alot.
AutosRe: Used Cars Wanted by Realpoint(m): 12:23am On Jun 19, 2007
@ Sultaan,

How much can I get GALANT 2000 OR 2001 MODEL?Please assist me on this because I have being following this trend and see element of truth in your saying for average man like me.Thank more power to your elbow.My mail is ademustay1423@yahoo.co.uk.
AutosRe: Car Exporter I Will Find You The Car You Require At The Best Price by Realpoint(m): 7:43pm On Jun 17, 2007
@oaziz44

Thanks alot my guy. I will get in torch with u as soon as my money is up to 1.45mil but for now i have 1.04mil for car.
AutosRe: Used Cars Wanted by Realpoint(m): 7:37pm On Jun 17, 2007
@promise72,
Thanks alot my guy.

Please assist me on this issue Democrat


Good work guys,I love meeting people like you.Just keep the good work up.More power to your elbow. I need Honda CR-V 1999 or 2000 Model and wish to know how much it will cost me to buy and shipping it from the State to Lagos or Republic Benin.
My mail is ademustay1423@yahoo.co.uk or send your number so that I can call you which I will prefer most.
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AutosRe: Car Exporter I Will Find You The Car You Require At The Best Price by Realpoint(m): 6:09pm On Jun 16, 2007
@sultaan,

Good work my guy.Can I get Honda CR-V 1999/2000 plus landing cost in Nigeria at $8000 or Toyota Avalon 1999?
Hoping to hear from you soon.
My mail is ademustay1423@yahoo.co.uk or send your numbr to me so that I can give you a call.
AutosRe: Used Cars Wanted by Realpoint(m): 5:21pm On Jun 16, 2007
@promise72 and Democrat,

Good work guys,I love meeting people like you.Just keep the good work up.More power to your elbow. I need Honda CR-V 1999 or 2000 Model and wish to know how much it will cost me to buy and shipping it from the State to Lagos or Republic Benin.
My mail is ademustay1423@yahoo.co.uk or send your number so that I can call you which I will prefer most.
Christianity EtcRe: Men And Women Don't Pray Together In The Mosque. Why? by Realpoint(m): 10:51pm On Jun 01, 2007
Are you asking this question for learning sake or why?
I always wonder how some people respond to question in this forum.Anybody can say what he or she likes but the truth remain that every religion has it's way of worshipping and I don't know why you will be worry more than people that is practicing it.
babyosisi:
a full moon grin
Are you doing the right with this reply?
babyosisi:
Muhammad said women were deficient in intelligence and deficient in religion,inferior to men,almost equal to donkeys so how can they be allowed at mosques?
Before I get any hate mails,here is my proof,from Muhammad's own mouth,he is the Allah's apostle in this hadith.


"Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: Once Allah's apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) of Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's apostle?" He replied, "You curse frequently are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you". The women asked, "O Allah's apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in your intelligence. Isn't it true that a women can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said: "This is the deficiency in your religion." Bukhari, volume 1, #301, and vol. 3, #826:

end of story
let a Muslim woman respond!
Don't abuse Muslim women for your selfish reason.There are many Hadith that praised women I don't know why you only see this one.Let me enlightening you little The Prophet said the above hadith to caution women from going beyond the boardry of God.Remember you can't reverse what God has done.
official:
you Muslims are local in all doings.
It is better to follow your creator than follow your fellow human reasoning.What do you mean by being Local?

@ Ishmael
Your understanding of Islam is zero for asking this question and you bear Ishmael.Even in Ka'aba Muslims both men and women pray together.Prophet only encouraged women to pray at home is better.

@olutomiwa
na wa o,so man and woman dey jam for MOSALASI too?ol girl i fear you o,una make i run before me and you go jam here
Don't you know it is better for you to keep your mouth shut if you have nothing meaningful to contribute.

@goodguy,mazaje,hannydarl, feelgood & many others with reasonable reply.

Thanks alot for the useful contribution.Infact I decided to reply because of you guys.
IslamRe: Why Do Muslims Face The East When Praying? by Realpoint(m): 8:06am On May 20, 2007
I didn't know I can use part of someone message that was why I posted all nuru message earlier. I am very busy now.
The last reply was meant for davidylan.
Did I mention Islam ? I was talking of religion and All the prophet of God came with messege of God without tagging it religion until the time of Prophet.What is the religion of Abraham?You are wrong to say geographers at least 600 years before Islam emerged.Islam has being the religion of all the prophets including Jesus Christ(AS).

you know what I don't have much time as I have said earlier this discussion has taken most of my time.God knows the truth you can call it anyname you what.Dodge.

My friend I am not the type that find it so hard to leave with other religion.Telly B ,I know you are good in using words.

Take good care of yourself.bye for now.
IslamRe: Why Do Muslims Face The East When Praying? by Realpoint(m): 2:49am On May 20, 2007
davidylan:
the sole issues on ground are staring you in the face. What direction do Muslims face when praying? What is the significance? merely observing nature in worship? Don't dodge issues.
I have answered the Questions:
What direction do Muslims face when praying? Kaaba,it now depend on how to locate it from anywhere you find yourself in the world.

What is the significance?Obedient to God's command and it is an act of worship to obey Him.

Look I don't and can't dodge issue.You rather asked yourself whether you answer my question in the follow post?

Realpoint:
Is it until God come in human flesh before he can save the world? Remember He created the world.God is might than coming to human level before doing any thing?
God's came in human flesh and killed by His creation so that He could forgive them?How rational,logical and realistic is that?Do you mean God can't forgive without embark on such suicide mission?
I don't argue neither my dear friend.I hate deviation due to any reason in which that is what u are doing mostly.Haven't I answer these question since.Stay focus and be precise my dear.

Take good care of urself.
IslamRe: Why Do Muslims Face The East When Praying? by Realpoint(m): 2:14am On May 20, 2007
I still mentain my ground.If you want us to open a topic to clear the issues on ground fine.But let us be precise in our answer rather than deviation.That is the point I am making since.
davidylan:
@ Realpoint, i will not be drawn into arguing with you so you can successfully derail the topic. the question is about the direction muslims face when praying and not whether Jesus Christ makes sense to muslims who are determined to see nothing but contradictions and then sob desperately when they are on the recieving end.

Tell us: stop using the alleged "might of god" to sweep it under the carpet. Are your muslim brothers correct when they avow that east is east whether in Japan or Mexico? What is in the qiblah that you all bow down to 5 times a day and why do you do so if it is merely a way of "observing nature in worship"?

Answer that first before you start looking for a way to dribble out of your confusion. If you truly seek answers to your questions run through several threads on the religion board. They have been treated more than 1000 times, you are merely recycling the question the same old quranic accusations that do not stand the test of time. If you are not satisfied, open a separate thread and ask your "questions" there. In any case you are yet to provide any concrete explanations here beyond attempting to run us off track!
IslamRe: Why Do Muslims Face The East When Praying? by Realpoint(m): 1:40am On May 20, 2007
davidylan:
again the usual "questions" all in an attempt to deflect the main issue, Allah's poor command of the geography of the earth he claimed to have created.

Why are you confused that Jesus Christ who came in human flesh is our Saviour and Lord?

Where you not the same person who told us that "Remember that human being know little of God's knowledge so why this comparison??I think you are truly ignorant of the might of God."?

If you can use the "we know little of God's knowledge" excuse to explain away the discrepancies in the Quran, why are you reluctant to accept same logic when we insist that God could humble himself to come down in human flesh for the sole purpose of dying for our sins on the cross?
You always deviated from the point but I will still answer you.
You are actually confused not me.Is it until God come in human flesh before he can save the world? Remember He created the world.God is might than coming to human level before doing any thing.
God's came in human flesh and killed by His creation so that He could forgive them as you've claimed.How rational,logical and realistic is that?Do you mean God can't forgive without embark on such suicide mission.My friend you are lost but failed to realized better wake up before it is too last.A word is enough for the wise.

Remember that human being know little of God's knowledge so why this comparison??I think you are truly ignorant of the might of God Is just a quotation by me.Why can't you use this word to believe in Allah that beyond comparing HIM with humanbeing.I used this quotation to tell you God's power is more than geographical knowledge and not for you to say I am using it justify Quran.Another deviation

Go and read DADINCI CODE BY Thomas Hank.
IslamRe: Why Do Muslims Face The East When Praying? by Realpoint(m): 12:22am On May 20, 2007
Telly B:
@Realpoint,

The answers given so far by Muslims - whether facing EAST or Kaa'ba - are borne out of ignorance! Even common sense geography is vacant in most of their answers - except the forthright and honest answer from one Muslim so far: sandoka!!

Should we even leave the issue of cardinal directions (east, west, north south) for a moment, have you taken a closer look at nuru'[/b]s questions and answers which you quoted in your response, and see how he flunks it out of IGNORANCE!! The guy is clueless about who Christ is; and I've had to show him answers from the Bible!

Now, I observe that anytime the Muslim is pointed to straightforward, no-nonsense answers, they come up with some verses from the Qur'an which they apply as soothing balm to the bruise of the ignorance. You may be a Muslim and be proud of it; and we're all happy for you. But to plaster the shame of the vacancy of thought and scholarship at the basic level is, to me, simply out of this world!

Let me ask you: when have Muslims ever believed anything when they've been pointed out lucidly?? Only the sensible ones are leaving Islam and finding grace and salvation in Jesus Christ!

It would be such a delight to read from the likes of [b]sandoka
who, in telling the truth, has earned my respect!
When Sandoka has answered your question why all the problems again?
I don't have much time to discuss on line that is why I went through some contributions and try to answer your question.I got to know sandoka case now that u mentioned him.To me I don't fight or create enemy for religion sack. In all ur contribution to this topic ur deviated more that anybody as far as I am concern on this topic.
@ Flowjay
But for those who are honestly interested in the topic, I personally wouldn't have responded again to the Blasphemy and Ignorant "intelligence" of people like Telly B, davidylan, babyosisi, and olutomiwa.

Do you think this guy is not right about you??You only know how to play with words not that you are saying the right thing as you have claimed.Geography came after religion has being established so I do not know why I should apply geography of common man to the directive of Al might God as you claimed while praising sandoka.

Remember that human being know little of God's knowlegde so why this comparison??I think you are trully ignorant of the might of God.

The question is again:Why Do Muslims Face The East When Praying?[/b]Does this has to do with geography?I repeat my answer we do not face East ,we face Kaaba periods and it in obedient to Al might God.

Are you sincere to yourself?If yes answer this question.
[b]Does God that created Adam without father and mother,then created Eva from Adam without mother then created Jesus Christ without father is the greatest or Jesus His creation .Is only people that doesn't think to this length will take Jesus Christ as their Saviour.


Try Islam with it uniqueness in everything.
IslamRe: Why Do Muslims Face The East When Praying? by Realpoint(m): 9:04pm On May 19, 2007
nuru:
God created the world and all in it. Observing different aspects of nature as commanded by God for the purpose of worship is not idolatry. What is idolatry. It is to ascribe and to believe and to act upon such believe that there is another diety worthy of worship beside or alongside your creator. That is idolatry. Muslims believe in God, the One and Only Creator of the entire universe. So what is so special about the Kaaba. What is special about it is that God commanded believers to face it when observing salat. How was the commandment communicated. Of course it is through the Quran revealed to the most noble of mankind, Muhammad the son of Abdullah, the Prophet of God.(Salla lau alaehi wa salam)

Will Christ know what you say in your heart. No

Will God know what you say in your heart. Yes

Why is that. Because God is your Creator and Jesus is not.

But Jesus is special. Yes, to the extent that he is a Spirit of God

But can't Spirit of God be God. No, they are different. One is the Origin, the other is subservient to Him

But this issue of Qiblah. Yes, facing it for salat is only symbolic. All mankind must focus on God, that is the lesson

Why is it in Makkah. To get an answer, you must first answer this '' why is River Niger in Nigeria, why does the tide rise and fall, why must the earth orbit the sun, why must man live and die. A lot of whys. that you may not be able to answer.

So, if the Lord of Wisdom says face a particular place for salat, who are you to dispute it.
Thanks alot for the explaination so far brothers.A lot of points had been made for you guys on why Muslims face Kaaba not  East as the initial message wrote.
We are doing that out of obedient to Almight Allah,Who creats everything you can either see or know and those behind our ability to know. People mostly utter some words out of ignorance, If any of you wishes to know more on Islam or Muslims let him peak Al Quran and read it very well with all sincerity of knowing the truth.I believe God will show him alot of reality which are in Islam only and no other religion.

For the believes: ALLAH said they will never believe no matter what u show or tell them.

As for me I am proud to be a muslim that understand his religion very well.

Any matter on religion is very broad but most people know less about what they are talking about.I don't think any religion issue can be finalise online.
BusinessRe: Sending Money To America by Realpoint(m): 8:01am On May 17, 2007
seun001:
you can also try OCEANIC BANK.THINK ITS 1% OF MONIES TO BE TRANSFERED.PLUS USD26 OR GBP16(FOR SOFTWARE CHARGES) .MINIMUM OF USD100 OR GBP60.THIS IS POSSIBLE WITOUT HAVING AN ACCOUNT. IF YOU WANT MORE INFO CONTACT ME.CHEERS
State your contact address or phone number for lissom

As for me Lissom go to any branch of both Banks nearest to you for enquiry.
AutosRe: Used Cars Wanted by Realpoint(m): 11:17pm On May 16, 2007
sultaan

Thanks alot
AutosRe: Cars From The U.s. by Realpoint(m): 8:59pm On May 15, 2007
I need Golf GTI 1999 or 2000 model.How much will it cost me.

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