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tunlex01:
Very easy.
Make sure your job descriptions align closely.
Use the Project List template to provide projects you have worked on
And provide organogram

Good morning, @tunlex01 @bellong and everyone.

Please kindly help with this question.

After making an unsuccessful ACS RPL attempt and you wish to try again, is there any chance they will compare your previously submitted documents with the new one or did they discard the old submission?

Thanks

tunlex01:
Tra does not access Ict support engineer. Only ict customer support and hardware technician however your degree MUST be computer science related. They don’t do Rpl

One quick question. Are there chances that tax clearance certificates will be verified for authenticity?

Thanks

tunlex01:
No. Get your previous/current companies to pay the tax or pay it yourself.

Okay! This one is now clear and noted.

Now for personal business, should you also go and make the payment yourself, if you have nothing to show for tax remittance?

bellong:
Tax certificate is a government issued document, no excuse will be tenable.


Yes, you can make a payslip if you worked for someone. For self-employed, it is not necessary.

Okay!

"Tax certificate is a government issued document, no excuse will be tenable"
But for this statement, do you mean for personal business or for a paid employment?

Thank you.

tunlex01:
Yes, you can use one stat declaration for both
yes, cash payment is not an exemption for payslip, pension or tax statement.

@Tunlex01

Sometime in the past, you mention including a proof to backup of your claim. For instance, a link.

Can these links be directly added inside the Status Declaration document itself or should there be another written stuff where the links/explanations/proofs can be written?

Then one can attach it along with the Status Declaration?

Thanks

tunlex01:
Yes, at the court. They gave me a sample and I edited it to suit my needs.
I haven’t seen anyone do stat declaration for tax or pension. They have gone to the tax authority to pay the previous taxes.

3. It’s the same process as long as you have valid reason and evidence to back up your claim. That’s all

Okay!

But I thought "gong to tax authority to pay the previous taxes" is for personal business.

That if your former employer can't provide you with a tax and pension proof, then that's when you make a Status Declaration.

Is that not so?

tunlex01:
you may have to ask them at the court or if there is anyone who can help here.

Okay! Thanks brother.
Have you ever done a Status Declaration yourself? How did it go?


Please @All experienced comrades and @Everyone

Please who has done Status Declaration before (especially for inability to provide pension and tax documents)?

1. How did you do it?

2. Do you or can you type it out and then take it to court to sign and stamp or how?

3. Is it the same procedure for doing something like (Affidavit of Change of Name)?

Thanks all.

tunlex01:
No, you don’t have to get stat declaration for all documents except your company has exemption from paying taxes or pension. Getting a payslip should not be an issue. If you don’t have it and you have bank statement, that should be good.
Stat declaration cannot cover pension or tax except you have genuine reasons why you are getting a stat declaration

Also, in this attached Statutory Declaration template, there is

"Declarant Name" and "Your Name"

What is the difference between the two? What/who is the "Declarant name" and who/what is the "Your name"?

Thanks

tunlex01:
No, you don’t have to get stat declaration for all documents except your company has exemption from paying taxes or pension. Getting a payslip should not be an issue. If you don’t have it and you have bank statement, that should be good.
Stat declaration cannot cover pension or tax except you have genuine reasons why you are getting a stat declaration

Okay! Thanks.

1. First, there is a genuine reason for the inability to provide the pension and tax documents. So, my question is, can you make one Statutory Declaration document stating proofs and why you're unable to provide the tax and pension informations, (inside one Statutory Declaration document)? i.e one Stat. Decla. document for both tax and pension.

Do you get?

2. Second, if the payments were made by hand (cash), can you still make a payslip for it?

Thanks.

tunlex01:
Get your letter from the HR of the company.
if that's not feasible, then you may prepare a statutory declaration.

Good day great guy.

Please for this Statutory Declaration thing, does one have to get a statutory declaration for every single document that he's unable to get?

For example, for any single past employment of mine, I have in mind that I should provide
1. Payslip
2. Reference letter
3. Pension document
4. Tax certificate

Now, my question is; If I'm able to provide only
1. Payslip and
2. Reference letter

Should I provide 2 separate statutory declaration documents, for the other 2 documents that I'm unable to get? like;
3. one for Pension and
4. another one for Tax certificate

Or should I make only one statutory declaration to cover for both
3. Pension and
4. Tax certificate?

I wonder if my question is clear enough.

Thanks as always.

bellong:
There is no way to circumvent it. For every claim you make in your application, you must provide supporting evidence. Evidence of payment is usually given proper attention.

Okay! Thanks.

In this case, I was talking specifically about the tax clearance certificate for my personal business. Do I have an alternative here?

bellong:
Does the payment shows that it is payment for your service? If it does, it is ok and you add tax certificate too.

What did you say is okay to do?

Also, I have never had a task certificate. But recently, due to this SA program, I went to inquire as to what is required to obtain a tax certificate, I was frightened by the amount of money they charged me. Is that how huge it costs because I do not have such money at the moment considering that I have a lot to pay for, for the Skill Assessment (SA) program?

Isn't there a way to circumvent this or at least to make it much more affordable?

tunlex01:
1. That should be enough for Vetassess assessment but won’t be for DHA. You need to have tax and/or pension statements.

2. Cash payment does not stop payment of PAYE tax or pension. She can get her school to pay her taxes.

3. She can do the assessment onshore after landing

Hi, Uncle @Tunlex01

I'm here again.

Please what would be the best thing to do in a situation where the person that would have provided your Employment Reference and other needed items, is no longer working in the company as well and as a result, no longer has access to the official emails and other contacts of the company as before?

I'm asking because, I was wondering what could happen if they send email to the email address in order to confirm, and either didn't get a confirmatory response or don't get any at all.

I wonder if you understand my tale here.

Thanks always.

tunlex01:
I’m not one of the admin but you can send an email to me

Thank you many times for all the clean responses.

Perhaps, you're a substantive teacher, lecturer or administrator of some sort (not some Nigerian types of lecturers oh!). A substantive one with 'information administration skills and passion' ingrained in DNA.

Please, where or how do you find someone's email address on this NL, so I can send you a mail?

tunlex01:
Where did you see SA? That link is for Nigeria PCC application

I meant SA for Skill Assessment.

What is PCC?

Thanks

tunlex01:
No, you cannot for primary applicant.

You should get your spouse to write the test too to increase your points by 5 points. For ICT occupations, you will really need any extra points you can get.
If IELTS is not working, switch to PTE

Thank you.

I saw that there is a WhatsApp group for the PTE, are you one of the Admins? Can you help in that regard or with a link to the PTE or IELTS quality learning sites, content or center?

tunlex01:
Tra does not access Ict support engineer. Only ict customer support and hardware technician however your degree MUST be computer science related. They don’t do Rpl

Okay! Noted.

Please do you have access to any Employment reference samples that you can send across?

Also, the ACS skills guidelines and other related instructionals don't seem to be super specific on the exact list of documents needed for RPL. Please can you make that available as well?

Thank you

tunlex01:
No, you cannot for primary applicant.

You should get your spouse to write the test too to increase your points by 5 points. For ICT occupations, you will really need any extra points you can get.
If IELTS is not working, switch to PTE

Thank you

This is wonderful!

Essentially, are you saying that as long as I'm married, that I must involve my spouse's Skill Assessments too (English Test) and that I cannot use mine alone to obtain success/positive assessment?

OR

Can I get assessed successfully solely based on my own credentials, move to australia and then arrange for my family to come over or must I leave with them at the same time?

This area isn't as clear yet.

Decentdave:
send ur WhatsApp contact to my mail

What is your mail, bro. I will appreciate getting the detail of the process as well.

@Tunlex01 and @Bodacious1

Please what is the essence of police report in SA?

Where is it relevant?
Thank you

tunlex01:
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1. https://possap.gov.ng/p/select-service
2. Yes you need to.

tunlex01:
You have different options to assess multiple occupations.

IT support technician, ICT Customer support officer, Hardware Technician, System Admin, System Analyst.
Although these occupations are assessed by TRA and ACS, you have a better chance of getting nomination with TRA than ACS.
If funds is not an issue, you can do two assessments (one with each of the bodies) to increase your chance as IT is competitive at the moment.

Please comrade, I just learnt from your comment that it is not only ACS that assesses the occupations you listed abobe - that TRA also assesses them as well. This is new to me.

Thanks

Does TRA also assess ones like ICT Support Engineer and the likes? If so, like you advised our fellow up here, can I also try my chances with TRA in addition to ACS for ICT Support Engineer and similar ICT occupations?

Thanks again.

Insightful. Thanks.

catchdwind4rmkd:
@Ashaju: it's sad to read about your unsuccessful application.

However, the subject you've addressed is a very critical aspect of the migration process and as such I'm obliged to comment.

Most of the Engineers on this thread, if not more than 70%, have used their undergraduate projects or thesis as their career episodes. I've also seen few that used their NYSC experience. In fact, I personally used my undergraduate project, MSc project and 4th year SIWES / internship for my 3 career episodes. We've even had someone on here who wrote a very convincing episode based on his personal research and got a positive assessment outcome. Hence, I find your advise misleading or probably it lacks sufficient information to make it valid.

Over the years, the assessing authorities have encountered many plagiarized and overclaimed reports submitted by different applicants which has made them become more strict in their assessments. Undergraduate projects are very much accepted and recommended by Engineers Australia, but they must be backed with both theoretical and documented evidence. The decision to request for more information, documents or interview is solely dependent on the assessor or case officer, and varies from one application to another. However, the most influencing factor is the content and quality of your career episode.

Some persons do not take time to right a good report, others copy directly from their original project report which was even also originally copied from another work. Thus, there is a very high chance that more than 2 persons have used the same project and more than 2 have also applied and submitted the same report to Engineers Australia. There are also those that make bogus claims on their report, especially reports which were based on internships that was obvious that the applicant was only there to learn. Yet you see applicants claiming to be the innovator, team leader, main brain behind a solution to a very complex or sophisticated problems. All of these only raise eyebrows and forces the assessor to request for proof, evidence, reference or even call you to test your knowledge through a short interview.

I agree that things have changed over time and the requirements have become tougher or more strict, however, a well written career episode containing clear, logical and valid theories, facts or even hypotheses stand a 99% chance of being approved even without a request for proof. And with verifiable and documented evidence, such episode has 100% chance of being approved. It is also worth stating that a commonly disregarded proof for undergraduate thesis is your grade in your transcript. Ensuring that you explain the significance of the project to attaining your final degree and the credit weight assigned to it as well as your actual grade as evident on your transcript will to a large extent be a sufficient proof for your work if you had a very strong career episode.

On a lighter note, I've seen an instance where someone wrote a career episode of over 2500 words, with drawings, designs, equations, result tables, experiments, etc. and when he was asked to send a copy of the original report, he said he didn't have it. I'm not an assessor but I was dumbfounded and disgusted. Such a person must be a genius of the 5th order...

Your case may not fall into any of those, and the fact that you're given the opportunity to defend your submission goes a long way to prove that the undergraduate thesis is accepted for the skills assessment, but you may have been affected by past applicants who have made the assessors to be more vigilant of bogus claims and unfortunately for you, you weren't convincing enough.

I'm sorry for the long post. To summarize, you can include your undergraduate project in your career episode and get a positive assessment if you did the work yourself and can prove /defend it theoretically and also provide required document evidence if requested. In all, KEEP IT SIMPLE!

Nicoletheo:
Hello Fam,

Greetings to all.

Please what is positive skills assessment? I am 31 years old and single.

Going by the first page on this thread, see my status below.

Please feel free to advice me on any pitfalls to avoid. Kindly advice on the next steps

1. Check if your occupation is on the occupation list
ICT Business Analysts(Medium and Long-term Strategic Skills List (MLTSSL) ANZSCO codes assessed by the ACS)

2. Go to the website of the assessing body for your occupation for information about the assessment process
Assessing body = ACS. Fee costs $500 Current Stage

3. Write English test. This step can come before skills assessment, it depends on the requirements of the assessing body for your occupation. Some do not require English test for assessment while others do.
Proficient English(You have achieved a score of at least 7 in each of the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and writing) in an International English )
Score: L7, R6, W7.5, S8. Would rewrite IELTS


4. Once you get positive skills assessment, submit an expression of interest (EOI) here if you have minimum of 60 points for 189, 55 for 190 and 50 for 489.
What is positive skills assessment??
Age = 30points
Skilled employment in the last 10 years – outside Australia - 10points
A Bachelor degree from an Australian educational institution or a Bachelor qualification, from another educational institution that is of a recognised standard. 15
To rewrite IELTS


5. If applying for 190 or 489, ensure a state is sponsoring your occupation before going ahead with the process.

6. After submitting EOI, wait for invitation to apply for the visa

7. Invitation received, apply for the visa and sit back till DHA finalises your application.

8. Grant received, pack your belongings and move.

Can you use the English Language Proficiency Certificate obtained from school?

Thanks

ogbevireo:
I took the RPL route as did others here. for that, you would need to give up 6 years for non closely related education. do if you can afford to do that, then all you need do is write your project and JD.

Please can you share a sample or template of the RPL project report and JD.

Thank you

You included partner's English test or proficiency. Does that mean the principal applicant can also use English proficiency from university not the test result from IELTS and co?

Phlunter01:
Congratulations!!!

Ok so for your application, Ensure you upload all documents that support every point you claimed i.e

Education (Certificate & Transcript)
Age (Birth Certificate / International passport)
Names (Birth Certificate, in case of any changes, Sworn affidavit and Newspaper publication)
Work Experience (Employment letters, promotion letters, pay slips, reference letters, and Statement)
Health (Ensure you generate your HAP ID and go for your medicals before you are asked, Yellow card from port health)
English (PTE score should be sent directly from your profile on the PTE website, or send the IELTS result)
Partner (International passport, Yellow card from port health, Evidence of name or any changes as above, English docs as above or Proficiency in English letter from sch)
Child (International passport, Immunization card)

all applicants will have to do the medicals as above.

I am not certain ii have covered it all.

Others can modify

stifo2012:
Employment letter is not necessary.

You can get your tax clearance from the state revenue board, though you will have to pay some money.

What if you no longer work with that company? Can you still get your tax clearance certificate for a company you no longer work with?

Do you want to assess via RPL?
What did you study?

Yes oh! But I'm sorry to be crashing in on your question. Yes I want to assess via RPL for ACS and here are my details so far.

1. Bachelors Degree in Electrical/Electronics Engineering
2. Various Sources of previous and present self-administered learning
3. Post Graduate Diploma in Business Administration
4. I have more than 6 years experience in 2 companies as an IT Support Engineer (which is my nominated skill/occupation). In one of the companies, I have also worked as an Electrical Maintenance Technician before transitioning to the ICT department.
5. Outside the companies, I have been working as a freelancer/self-employed and can have reports of at least 2 projects related to my nominated skill/occupation.

Please, I will DEEPLY appreciate a specific guide or specific information on the things I need to proceed in this pathway.

Thanks in advance and remain blessed.

Bamz:
Hi stepo707,

How's it going? We met on the PTE section. Glad to know you're making some headway on your application. I reckon our job roles will be very similar since you do IT support.

Please, I need to make some clarifications.

How many points did you garner assessing with TRA?

Checking suitable places for HW Technician, why did you opt for SA? NT & TAS were available options.

There's a likelihood that I will assess with TRA and I'm contemplating ICT Support Technician nec, with just NT open to applications but it seems that they require an employment offer.

PS. I think I may also be able to tailor my job roles to suit any job within the 3131 Unit Group though. ICT Customer Support Officer looks good right now for SA.

Alphadoor, please I need your advice here too. I hope you remember me, the Systems Engr guy (torn between assessing for EA or ACS). Seems there's so much competition for these bodies and the points requirement keep increasing. I have 10 points for English, and seriously considering 489. I will rewrite my English exam much later after I initiate my assessment process.

Hello @Alphadoor and other experienced people, Please I beckon on you gurus here again. Kindly help.

Please, I need urgent help from experienced and knowledgeable members on this Australian migration Assessment program.

I have reasonably read through the requirements for the various Assessment pathways and have settled for the RPL (Recognition of Prior Learning) option, given my peculiar situation. However, sometimes the entire instruction in all the referenced pages and documents can seem quite cumbersome or a bit ambiguous on a number of issues and not exactly specific on what needs to be done at a particular instance. I have also browsed Nairaland very well and have not seen any full info related to any successful RPL assessment application and requirement details.

Please, kindly offer helpful information on the specific things I need.

These are the things I have:

1. Bachelors Degree in Electrical/Electronics Engineering
2. Various Sources of previous and present self-administered learning
3. Post Graduate Diploma in Business Administration
4. I have more than 6 years experience in 2 companies as an IT Support Engineer (which is my nominated skill/occupation). In one of the companies, I have also worked as an Electrical Maintenance Technician before transitioning to the ICT department.
5. Outside the companies, I have been working as a freelancer/self-employed and can have reports of at least 2 projects related to my nominated skill/occupation.

Please, I will DEEPLY appreciate a specific guide or specific information on the things I need to proceed in this pathway.

Thank you in advance and remain blessed.

pdlibra:
I want to use this post to encourage all those waiting for their assessment and to also appreciate all the advice i got with regards the earlier feedback i got from EA.

I waited for 31 Oz working days and 50 days before my application was picked up by an assessor despite the fact that i paid for fast track.

Quoted here was the feedback from the assessor.

I responded by writing an explanatory note with the following comments:

1, For NYSC, please provide:

- I stated that i do not have the requested document because i was only paid stipend during the period and i also attached my NYSC discharge certificate.


2, For upto 6 years job experience:
Please provide Electronic Tax Clearance Certificate Card for the whole period of employment at ......


- I explained that my state does not issue out such card. Also mentioned that Lagos state only recently commenced issuing it out but other states in Nigeria are yet to follow suit.

Less than 48 hours after i responded, I got the positive assessment for all my experience and degree. To God be the glory.

Please keep your faith alive, it will definitely happen.

Thanks for your insight.

Please for your situation, aside the requested NYSC document and the Electronic Tax Clearance Certificate Card, did you submit any other documents with respect to your employment payment?

bellong:
Is your company registered?

Do you lodge your payment in the bank?

Hello, @Bellong. Sorry I had to crash your question but I think your question may apply to me.

Yes, please. It is registered but i don't have a separate account for it. If it is cheque, I simply pay into personal accouunt or collect the full cash or have them make a transfer.

Fomskie:
Please I need guidance in writing the ACS Recognition of Prior Learning Report so I can assess with ACS as Quality Assurance Engineer. Anytime I pick up the project template, I get more confused. I just don't know where to start. I previously assessed as an External Auditor with CPA Australia but got a negative assessment and was told I didn't meet one of the competency areas. I had the option of writing Financial Accounting and Reporting paper to obtain a positive assessment but that would mean all my experience no longer counts so I won't score any points for experience. It didn't seem like a very viable option at the time because I needed all the points I could get as age was not on my side + I was aiming for a 189. Moreover, most States require post qualification experience of 2 - 3 years before they will nominate you for External/Internal Auditor. Right now I'm looking for 489 anyhow but finding very hard to get past this stage of RPL report writing. Please help somebody! I really need guidance with this. Secondly, hubby has nominated Financial institution branch manager which is on the Regional Occupation List. Does anyone have experience with this occupation. Graçias�

I think I'm on a similar page with you. How far have you or did you go with the RPL assessment pathway or have you move with it? I will also like to have a copy of your Project Report Template.

Thanks a lot

adeomoade:
You can use your appointment letter, promotion letter, pension statement, tax clearance etc.
Prepare your mind for employment verification.
Best wishes.

Sorry, Mate.

By "prepare your mind for employment verification", do you mean that the Assessing body will verify your employment or that you will be required to provide employment evidences?

Thanks