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Let me just state here that its not like i just compromise anyhow but i like it when i am thoroughly understood and people step to my ideas and chain of thot.
@OKX
This is EXACTLY the style i want.Where we dont have to do too much detail but yet have believable characters that have that african mean-look which is kinda our trait.Also as neikid just pointed out, minimum clothing is welcomed too much.I really know now that u feel me and yeah, i'm drafting the scripts/storyboards. Yeah, i'll also look into jydekris, been seeing his stuff around.My problem is i want him to want to join so he gives his all to it
@all
Dont know wats been happening with the rest of u all but u guys are beginning to slack.Apart from Neikid, wots up wit da rest of u?no posts, no responses?Anyway, story has been adapted with only OKX's contribution as the change. An adaptation will be sent to your emails. Next posts are on the style and artwork.OKX just started the train and dats wot i had in mind also.Suggestions are still welcomed.Though the lead character wont be carrying a shield,

Time is NoOne's friend people, lets try to pick up the pace

Still gotta watch it so i'll be back but the hype on facebook is saying something already

Trying to keep the thread close to the main one so pls dont mind the unnecessary necessary statements.

@all
Glad to see u guys popping in. I just want to say that we should try to always focus on the matter at hand. Sorry for passing round the vibes that everyone should start what they can but hey, it makes u feel like u are working and it does help focus ur mind at the task at hand. I mean, look at what Neikid came up with, thats impressive. Lets all make sure we agree on the story first which should deadline today.
Next is the style we want for the setting and how much clothing should be worn. Also if we should use tribal tatoos and all.Lets create the look so that we will know what to pass on to the 2D artists(i am recruiting two guys not on nairaland to do the art work so at least i am covering that).
By tomorrow, we should have finished the story-proofing so lets us begin to post how the feel of the video should be like.Concentrate your description on Clothing, tribal tatoos, dwellings/houses, advancement in technology, weapon of choice for the main character, names for places and characters,facial appearances. As usual people, straight to the point, no dwindling.I've been happy with our clean-cut responses, lets keep it that way, FireOn

Well, sure do hope for responses so i dont feel alone

Sojioguns
Thanx for ur interest in our little project.Ur advice has been duly noted and all those positions will be filled in due course.We have a calendar, we have phases and we sure as hell know what we r doing.So, tanx again

@my crew
Guys,holidays are over and we have stalled enuf.1 more day now and we are thru with the editing phase.Barka da Salah peeps

First off, i would like to apologise for not posting this thread earllier.
Let me just cut to the chase, I am trying to start a team to do a pilot 3D animated movie of 5mins to be able to source for funds and then make a feature length movie. It will be the first of its kind in Naija thus opening up the graphics industry which our beloved country badly needs(home videos? ). Right now, the team needs serious minded people ready to work as a unit to make this project see the light of day. Do not take this lightly or as one of those pleas from an enthusiast. As long as you see it that way, there is already no room for you on the team. The team is already 5people strong which have been carefully selected amidst other entries(their presence here in nairaland has already been felt). If you think you have a good command of any related skill (3D modelling, 2D Art, Sound Efx, Post Production, Texture Artist, Animators, Rigging and Studio Access and other relative skills)that can be used in this project please hop over to the thread called "3D Graphic Guys&Girls:wake up Call" to see whats been going on. The summary of it all is as follows:
1. Project to assemble a team for a 5min animated movie to use in sourcing for funds
2. Funds generated will be use for team sustenance and making of a feature length movie.
3. Acceptance into team is on a serious basis thus u may or may not be selected
4. This is strictly a volunteer position for the 5min movie after which when funds are made available, the position becomes a paying job.
5. No need for relocation as this will be a 90% online project though face-to-face will be conducted so as to register bonafide team members.
6. Project materials will only be made available on acceptance into the team.
7. This is also a project based on trust and the sweat of people who believe in the SYNERGY of our beautiful and breathtaking skills/works here on nairaland. We believe the entertainment industry in Naija needs to recognise us therefore if u are not of this inclination, please avoid applying.
8. To be part of this team, simply browse to the thread "3D Graphic Guys&Girls:wake up Call" and paste ur details in the following format, stating ur skills and scoring urself on a scale of 1-10
format

YES to project
blog name:ur nairaland login name
skills: list skills with score by the side
software: list ur preferred software with a score of how good you are with it
preferred department: list 1st and 2nd choice departments
current location: list current location
email: ur valid email
phone:ur phone number

below is an example of mine

YES to project
blogname- resichild
skills: CONCEPTUALISATION(9) PLANNING/MANAGEMENT(8] 2D ART(4) MODELING(8]UV PLACEMENT/TEXTURING(2) RIGGING/ANIMATION(POST PRODUTION(6)
software: 3D MAX8,9(9) bryce6(8},mental ray(5), Fx-home's visual,composite and effects Lab studio(6)
preferred department: 1ST CHOICE- ANIMATION
2ND CHOICE- MODELING
current location: lagos
email: concepthaven@yahoo.com
phone: 0803 639 5922

Please use only this format and be truthful because its better for us to know ur weaknesses now than to discover it midway and have to drop u.

Lastly, this is not for the feeble minded and those who cannot dedicate time and effort to the completion of this project.
We have screamed for synergy over the past few years, its time to put ourselves to the test. I really look forward to working with the great talents, minds and hearts right here in nairaland.
This one na for naija

@Neikid
Nice work but i really need u to lighten up that picture so its visible and men ur effort and zeal is top notch, wish everyone else had a good dose of ur zeal.

@OKX
alrite, i will create a general thread giving people the idea and they will still have to undergo the same rules.thanx for the heads up.

@all
Like OKX said, are we asleep or just chilling

@tunslike
sorry man but i dont actually get u. U have another story?or just got the one i sent. Also, are u saying u dont want to be an instructor or u are stepping up to be one?i really want to understand u thats all
@all
people, i see the break is really good for us all but u can steal small time out to work.Whats up?

Hmm!
@Neikid
Its funny u didnt consider me being hindu, or a bhuddist or maybe an atheist ma sef. Anyway, i love the effort u've made with trying ur hand on a demigod model, pls post a render lets see but it may or may not make the final cut so dont get too attached to it. But remember that ur effort was supposed to be on editing the story also, i just hope uve come around to that.

@okx
Nice job. But know that we are on the same page. I just fleshed out the story dialogue so u guys could understand where i was heading and the mood i was trying to create.Trust me wen i say the only time i want to do facial morph targeting and lip syncs is when their is a solid backing(that thing is work). Originally, i wanted to do the whole thing with only gestures and head nods but i felt u guys wont dig it so i threw that concept out the window. All that said, i agree with ur mode and posting ur draft would be welcomed.

@all
Straight to the point suggestions people,in another day we are wrapping up the editing so we can move on.Any edits after deadline will not be welcomed. Make una no talk say i no talk am now oh!Happy holidays

Just checked for any updates.Whats up?u guys are hooked on the story or what
Get back here ASAP

@Gamine
U never seize to amaze me. I like ur criticisms and good dose of frankness. Hope thats how u are in person also.Cheers and all the best in ur career
@geemus
i'd go with gamine's take on the ads. The glo's promising but the leaves and font need work and really if i saw the zain ad, i would think its a body cream or soad ad cos of the excess skin

;DWell guys, an updated team list has been sent to ur boxes. We welcome the newest recruit JEMIT. Jemit, may i say welcome to the beginning of 3D Hell for you, no fear sha!
@z-pixel
comeon man, how long will it take u to read the thread. Join the winning team and sign-up as neikid said, work has started

@A2J
Guy, dont let me keep reminding u for ur info cos team list is already circulating and might soon close if we proceed too far ahead.

@Neikid
For now post comments here so we can pump up the thread but pls little details and be straight to the point. No long speeches or emotional crap.Since we all have the story, just refer to the place u want changed, state ur change and state why.
@all
Pls for the love of whichever God u serve nobody should write long drafts cos it deters people from reading and dat way we might drive away potential teammates.
Fire On.

Neikid welcome to the team. You are on modelling duty also.Do any of the models. I will work on the staff
@all
Sorry for not posting for a full day, ran into some nitches. Anyway all of you should have the story in your boxes now along with the list of whose on board so that u can suggest how work is spread.
@A2J
We are still awaitng you info thats why u are not on the list. Lets start moving people

Wow!You just realised its been slow.Forgive my sarcasm because i can't help it. I'm funny that way.
@OKX
You are over qualified for ur job already and i am impressed but please make no assumptions that i hadnt taken a lot of that in2 consideration.The fact is posting it here will only do exactly what it is doing now, create more banter and make people lose track of what is supposed to be going on though i must say i dig ur rating technique and i believe from here on everyone down with this project should do the same.
People, lets not get distracted applying is the stage we are in right now.Lets leave the arguments for later eh!These my two backbones You guys are killing me oh!ahah!

Anyway, i think we should also show some stuff here to attract more hands.So i will be mailing the story to the following people who i believe are backing this project up 100%(thanx guys). OKX, A2J, tunslike. please Neikid&jemit i feel You guys but please You have to conform before i can send You guys the story.
@A2J
You also had better conform oh abi You no no say na lead by example
After You receive the story which is short, read it edit if You wish and send ur edited copies back but the action should start as follows
1. The main character should be modelled to have faze's type of face but a very athletic physique.The story will let You set the period so You will know his dress code.we don't have any bonafide 2D artist on board yet so sketches are going to be a problem seeing that OKX rates his 2D art as 6 and tunslike didnt even put 2D and i suck at drawing.
2.Tunslike, read the story and come up with a good forest area for just the first scene.Trees shouldnt be too dense but the ground can be very undulating(hope i used that word right?)At least with a model of the lead character and environment,even if untextured, we can make this thread look more serious
Guys, lets stop yapping and start tapping alright.

Reminder, Jemit and Neikid.Ur stats and breakdown ASAP so that You guys can jump right in2 dance with us. Yeah

Almost forgot

YES to project
blogname- resichild
skills: CONCEPTUALISATION(9) PLANNING/MANAGEMENT(8] 2D ART(4) MODELING(8]UV PLACEMENT/TEXTURING(2) RIGGING/ANIMATION(POST PRODUTION(6)
software: 3D MAX8,9(9) bryce6(8},mental ray(5), Fx-home's visual,composite and effects Lab studio(6)
preferred department: 1ST CHOICE- ANIMATION
2ND CHOICE- MODELING
current location: lagos
email: concepthaven@yahoo.com
phone: 0803 639 5922

U can download the trial versions of Max9 or 2008 or 2009 from autodesks website(www.autodesk.com) and then grab the crack at www.mscracks.com if u have a bittorrent client just google "torrents for max 9, 2009,2008".u will get a healthy list to download both software and keygen.All thats left is ur download speed.LOL

YES to project
blog name-resichild
strengths:modelling,animation,story writing,rendering,postproduction effects
software used:3D max9, bryce6,mental ray, Fx-home's visual,composite and effects Lab studio.
email:concepthaven@yahoo.com
current location:Lagos
phone :08036395922
Description of sample work pic:converted naijadey's robowheel sketch to 3D untextured

please use the above format only.Thanx and looking forward to assembling a solid team please lets not stray again thanx

Also, the main facts for the demo film are,
It has been brought down to 10mins since it will be used to source for funds.
As agreed from views, we are going with story two about the man in the forest
Story will end as if the best was just beginning.
any other info will be passed along as soon as it develops. Now start posting as below,

I stretch my fingers for more typing, jeeezzzzzzzzzzzz.
@all
Let me as much as say that if anybody brings up the issue of all those horn clashing issues on page one back here , he will buy all of us 200naira call credits cos it does not take a professor to see that we have ironed out those issues and are only interested in moving forward.Also , this 'OGA' title dat u guys are beginning to use,hmmm, u are on ur own oh!
Now on to the matters at hand.
@OKX and A2J
the answers to ur questions are as follows:
1. It will be mostly online when we consider the various locations of each member though if we mostly turn out to be in lagos, then we can make regular meetings.For those who wont be in lag for the meetings, we will have to convey the proceedings across to them.Along the way, we will definitely come up with good suggestions but for now lets orient ourselves to an online project.

2. Designated roles will depend on each persons strengths and weaknesses also how compatible his software is with the mainstream production.I cannot give u this info now cos nobody has actually come forth with their pros and cons.
3.The art style is going to be simply like the way it is with INCREDIBLES.the detail wont be maddening but still very catchy.Would have loved to do cel shading but it cuts our audience in half being that the adults wud simply write it off as a cartoon.And i mean, we need their cash to progress.
4. I am a 3D max user. But it would be unfair to make this the mainstream software but that might be the case if most people on the team turn out to be max users but anyway, the wisest decision i think would be to use either Maya,Max or SoftImage Xsi for the final rendering output. Modelling can be done in virtually any 3d package since a standard .3ds file can be exported and imported by most of them. I'm not sure about rigging and texturing though textures can be done in photoshop and fireworks or paint-shop pro.2D art is pen and paper.Sounds would be Adobe Audition and post production effects would be Adobe After Effects/Premiere.Though all this will still be subject to change regarding the team's comfortability.
5. As of now, the only people i can say are definitely onboard are OKX and A2J but i still lack any info on both of u.Jemit looks very promising but still no info.
6.@A2J i am sure u dont want to kill me yet.Pls everyone will need their pcs or laptops to work and their softwares.Those i can provide are the full adobe suite CS3, 3Dmax 9,max8,softimage xsi 7.0.Of course u know it involves installing ang crakin(naija faktor).Anybody who can get any other are highly welcomed.
7. Partaining the story, i will email it to u guys when u post ur details.Along with the storyboards i have written out and other details only team members should know.U can then take ur time to post it back to me after editing what u deem fit 2edit.Pls i wud like to state here that if ur corrections dont meet the final cut, u shudnt think ur opinion is nit sought its just that it didnt make it period, no BAD-BELLE follow am oh!
8. I believe i wud also pick up three people +me and my partner(Demmy) making 5 dat will be the final decision makers on all the issues we encounter so we dont spend too much time on unnecessary arguments and, as jemit says, grammar.For now, i think OKX is very technical,foresighted,serious and always looking for a way to forge ahead.So i am sure u guys wont vex cos i want him to be one of the decision makers.But, i still need ur info.A2J, u ma na correct guy so i think u are second.All we need is one more professinal and level headed guy.Like i said the rest should not shake but the fact is, every gathering must have a leadership and dats what we are doing


I hope i have cleared some doubts and thats about it for doubt clearing.I am going to start this thing anew again and anybody who is interested in this project should just follow suit and do as i am going to do in the next post.OKX and A2J including u both.We must show examples.This way to gather the various details would be easy.Okay here we go,

@Okx
the skills are def, u sure we shouldnt try to recruit the guy??
@jydekris
i wonder if i have met u before.Ur skills strike me wit an aura of one guy that sketches like this crazily bak in my skool days

i would like the first subscription when its out.Damn u are talented

Love ur sketch work man.for old sketches, they r tite.Hey, try reading the thread of "wakeup call for 3d graphics guys/babes".If u feel interested just follow the instructions cos we need good 2d sketch guys, keep the pen rolling dude

@A2J
Guy u are three much.I have tried to nail those kind of cars before so i know for urs to come out that sweet, u are baaaaaaaaddddd!!!!!!!!

@A2J
my email too is concepthaven@yahoo.com.i need all the educational material i can get.thanx

A2J:
with just one click of a filter in photoshop, you will get that effect.
https://i36.tinypic.com/azevep.jpg

@A2J
haba!we all knew but kept quiet.U didnt have to say it outright.Have mercy on the starters, .LOL

Wow!Social life??bin long since that word made sense to me Anyway, i still stand by mt offer when i say if there is space put me in. This project of mine looks like its of to a slow start cos till now no responses.Anyway, i just wrote out(not draw) 25story boards for scene I. i am on scene 2 now.I think its going to have like 4scenes.The intro,journey,confrontation and outro.Like u said, i am going to drop it at a cliffhanger point, . Anyway, what do u guys want to start with?tell me so i can forward details.

Guy, u go tire but dont give up.Like grafikdon said, u really nailed that bike.The resemblance is uncanny.Grease to ur fingers and Naija level is rising fast

@A2J
:oSolid. I really like the fact that u are all coming around and yes oh, someone has to pick up the tab.I've taken the advice and will stick to a 10mins video that will be the John the Baptist of 3D graphics in naija. Right now i am writing out the story boards for the artist(which i havent found yet) and i am going with the second story as suggested.i am also writing the story in full to be distributed to team members. After that i will list out the models we will need for the film.I wont bore u guys here but the the document would be complete and when everyone knows and has a feel of whats to b done, we will divide the jobs and kick off.Intermittently we wud create a thread on nairaland to post some progress to get initial feedback. If u are willing ti join dont forget the rule.At least OKX just modified it.
Paste your YES with your email,phone number, strengths and work sample or links to the samples.when we are 10 strong, we can fire down. right now i think its only neikid who has shown some commitment.i will email codename47, tunslike to see whats up.

People respond to this wake up call

@OKX
Thanx for the mag, just dL it.U didnt still answer me.Do u have an opening cos u dont understand how badly i want 2work with like minded people.i'm getting tired of being a loner and trying to out do the 3d guy next door or wherever i meet him.So what say ye?

Huh!Now i feel kinda refreshed.This is actually what i wanted, questions and advice not reproaches though my good pals OKX and A2J were being true to the core in their way.
@xothermilk
Loved ur speech,encouragement and ur work.

@OKX
my email is concepthaven@yahoo.com.just notify me when the mag is is coa i wud really love more technical insight into that movie.
@A2J
This is the best way i am going to put it
1.I have 3stories basically written with time and environment as constraints.The 1st is 25th century naija as a large mass floating on antigravity devices.Things have gone sour a long time ago and the rich were the only people who could afford to stay on the mass.The rest were hauled over the edge.The epidemic that was released due to wrong toxic experiments turned all those overboard to black bodied people referred to as shadows.Every decade, they amass and try to take over the floating mass.Within the 10yrs, 2 people, a male and female are trained with one goal, to exterminate the shadows.These duo are called Omo-Ehis.This whole beginning is narration while the film is basically 30mins of shadow ass kicking with some hi-tech gadgets.The duo wud eventually discover why and how they regroup after every 10yrs but , i cant give out the ending twist. The 2nd story starts in a forest, with a young man strung up on a tree and left for dead.In his dying moments, he calls on a demi-god that grants him a staff with unknown powers. The god tells him the only chances of him surviving is to complete two tasks, race an enchanted beetle-guy(it was originally a tortoise but, KungFu panda happened and i dont want to be referred to as a lifter) and fight a gargantuan creature.I,ve already seen a sketch on nairaland that i wud like for this creature but we can come up with better.It ends with the man reaching the edge of his village, there's a twist here also but, my lips gotta be sealed.3rd takes place in just a 5 0r 8floor story building where 2young boys are trying to rescue a senator that was kidnapped and held hostage somewhere in the building.Initially they dont even know cos they were just trying to save their necks from the armed men in the apartment block.
My plan for making the work short is simple, i am going to have just very few xters in each story.the first will have just the main xters(2) a lot of mass produced low polygon xters that will be horrifyingly black so there's practically little detail and the environments are going to be caves wich can be randomly generated and reused.the 2nd, has only 4xters.The young man, the demigod, the beetleman and the creature.Environment, forests.i assure u with 3dmax, u can come up with a pretty good looking forest and mountainsides in a day.Rigging&Animation would just be for 4people.The third will have just the senator, the 2boys, a voice over the phone and two masked guards that will be repeated with just clothes variations.The idea in all three is to keep the viewers focused on the thrill and action.Trust me here when i tell u i know what im talking about.

My role would include moderator,modeller,storywriter,rigging&animation,rendering.i am not good with texturing and sound production.Just picking up after effects so not too strong in postproduction.

Thats why i wanted a cross section of people to apply so that after selection, we can all participate as much as we can.And b4 u say it, i dont run things like a dictator.Inputs will definately be sought after but ultimately instead of arguing unnecessarily, we will make a quick decision and move on.thats why we also need team spirit.
i have already opened a yahoo mail and secured an online storage facility where we can keep and exchange the files so that wherever we are wont be too much of a problem.And u all can see xothermilk is along my thinking.if its better dan what i have on youtube,then its presentable
And the final thing i need to say here is this, IF THIS PROJECT GOES UNDERWAY I, LIKE THE REST OF YOU AM CONTRIBUTING OUT OF THE SHEER FACT THAT WE WOULD EQUALLY SPLIT THE PROCEEDS.I DONT HAVE MONEY TO PAY YOU THATS WHY THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT THAT WE MUST REAP IN THE END.Also thats why i dont want to take too much of peoples times so they dont get disenchanted and leave halfway becos i know my naija guys.
@A2J
Trust me, if we pull this off, we would definitely continue so that we will be the pioneers.Wont u like dat?
@OKX
hope i hav been a little convincing.Also, the stuff/project u are doing, abeg space dey for this guy?wont mind at all

o boy!See gist.Hope u guys have enuff time to read all this.Tell me what ya think.I'm waiting anxiously

My connection to nairaland was horrible yesternight and i felt like calling seun personally, if only i had his phone number and before u all start asking it wasnt my isp cos i just downloaded softimage 7 in one night(bittorrent rocks)
@naijadey
This is what i think ur Robotwheel looks like untextured.I'll post the textured pic later and a link to a short animation i'm doing wit it.Really loving the little guy and hope u dont mind .Also modified it a tiny bit

Just sat back and pondered on something.I will post a work flow,plan and summary of the story and also where i am deficient. At least let me take a last stand for what i believe we can do and after dat, whatever happens,happens!

hmm!Amateurs they call me,

@ OKX
it takes a gr8t deal to offend me so dont sweat it. Let me just say that in nigeria and with the resources at hand, a render farm is impossible and u know it so dont go all technical with the graphic aspects. What i am saying is clean-cut, we' ve all done videos at home and they look good enuf to be a FIRST in Naija, two points u are missing.Have u seen the new south-african cgi series, have u seen grafikdon's cel-shaded series?u think he used a render farm?i have three different cel-shaded videos which i rendered with an assembled desktop and onboard nvidia graphics card way back 2003.It took me 4hrs to render each and it looked really good. My point is we are not hitting kungfu panda or incredibles with this film but its going to be presentable enuf to attract nigerians in general and from there, it keeps improving. When Styl+ Olufunmi music video came out,people tripped.Why?it wasnt because we had never seen stuff like that b4, it was solely because people were proud to associate it with nigerians.Period. Thats the edge here.We arent going after disney, pixar or dreamworks yet, just what shud be enuff to put 3d graphics on the nigerian entertainment industry.
Being so professional,as u rightfully say, what amount of stress will it be to join up?After u see the plans, story and work distribution on a private space and not aired here in nairaland, u can decide to quit if its "amateurish".
U say i am unknown, but u seem to 4get that i also dont know any of u here.thats why its a project of synergy as the goal and profit as 2nd place. U can take ur time to model and post them here for free so where's the harm in doing it for the project.
Anyway, i see clearly that i made a move i thought people were just generally afraid to make.Thats not the reason at all, the problem is everyone who's quite good thinks he knows too much.Instead of lending the knowledge, we all try to show ourselves.i think synergy in this area still has a long way to go.I am officially discouraged from continuing and anyone who feels more capable can continue this journey. But let me say this, LETS TRY TO PRACTICE THE UNITY WE ARE SCREAMING FOR.

@neikid,codename47,tunslike,bizkit
sorry i wasted ur blogging time but i'll keep u guys in mind.We cud start stuff off the record so send me ur emails and phone numbers.i'll mail the story and its concepts to u all.We dont have sketches and art, and none of u put up 2d art as a skill so we still need that.
@OKX
just an after thought, since u are quite versed in production, whats keeping u from pitching this project?Because if u are quick to point out the loopholes, then u shud hav a waterproof plan.Why havent u executed it yet?Wud like to know so i wud hav learned some strategies at least