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Truthseeker10:
So if I don't have the gift of interpretation and you are speaking or praying in tongues, how will I know that you are genuine or fake?

Did you give room for Holy Spirit to operate in you Jws members?

Truthseeker10:
So there was no holy spirit in the life of those who Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 14:28 to?

Quote it out!

Truthseeker10:
So if a person cannot interpret, does he have the Holy Spirit?

The answer to this your question is here. Not everyone is giving the gift of interpretation. I have said it before!

1 Corinthians 12:10
to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues

Truthseeker10:
So in a case where there is none with the gift of interpretation, how would we know if your tongues is genuine or not?

I said earlier give room for Holy Spirit to operate in your life. If you are one of those gather inside kingdom hall, ask your leaders why is Holy Spirit not allow in the member's lives?

Truthseeker10:
So why not miracles since you claimed that a person who has the Holy spirit must be able to speak and interpret tongues?

And I said I can speak and interpret, didn't I

Truthseeker10:
You claim you have both the gift to interprete and to speak tongues. So why not miracles since you claimed that a person who has the Holy spirit must be able to speak and interpret tongues?

Regards the question you asked based on the two you picked and I said BOTH

There are many gifts of the Spirit!

Truthseeker10:
So why is the Holy spirit giving you only two? But you claimed here that a person who has the Holy spirit must be able to speak and interpret tongues?

Did I said Holy Spirit gave me ONLY TWO?

Truthseeker10:
So why did Paul give an arrangement in verse 28 in the case of no interpreter since it was not possible?

In case there is no one to interpret should in case there is none with the gift of interpretation is what verses 28 is talking about!

Truthseeker10:
So I have asked you why you don't have all the gifts of the spirit mentioned below in this verse.

1 Corinthians 12:10
to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues

I believe you have ability to read and comprehend?

It says to another Miraculous power, to another prophecy, etc

Which means it is possible not to have all and it is also possible to have all the gifts!

Truthseeker10:
So "If" and "not possible" is the same?

It is not possible for two or more people with the Spirit led to gather without seeing anyone that can interpret

Truthseeker10:
So when people are praying in tongues, we cannot know whether it is genuine or fake? Can someone pray in tongues on behalf of others?

I said earlier that if you give room for Holy Spirit to operate in your life, you will know and understand which is fake and genuine!

Truthseeker10:
So where does this verse say that what Paul said in verse 28 is not possible?

He said IF

Truthseeker10:
You claimed that it was not possible for a congregation not to have an interpreter.

Explain 1 Corinthians 14:28 below.

New International Version
If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God.

Read from verses 26

RightChannel:
Read from verses 26


26 What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret.

Truthseeker10:
is there a difference between speaking in tongues and praying in tongues? If yes, explain.

Praying in tongues is a personal, spirit led prayer to God that builds up the individual praying, whereas speaking in tongues is a manifestation of the Spirit for the edification of others, requiring interpretation to benefit the church.

MaxInDHouse:
You have no excuse there is nothing like praying in tongues and apostle Paul has condemned it because it doesn't add up!

You still haven't answer my question, I asked as at the time Paul layed his hands upon them, what was he doing? Is he praying, singing or dancing?

Truthseeker10:
You can answer this as well.

is there a difference between speaking in tongues and praying in tongues? If yes, explain.

Read from verses 26


26 What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret.

Truthseeker10:
You can answer this as well.

is there a difference between speaking in tongues and praying in tongues? If yes, explain.

Too much questiona, do it one after the other

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible did not say, let's leave that as something not revealed but as for what is written no one prayed in tongue that is why Paul was correcting people who thought presumptuously saying jargons could be approved after all they can say it's praying and praying is part of worship in Christianity!

As at the time he layed his hand on them, he was praying after then they received Holy Spirit. Peter and John in Acts 8:17 did the same

Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

What you need to ask your elders in Jws is that why not giving room for Holy Spirit to operate in your Kingdom Hall and your lives?

Truthseeker10:
is there a difference between speaking in tongues and praying in tongues? If yes, explain.

You asked for this, we are not done with it before asking another question!

Truthseeker10:
Explain 1 Corinthians 14:28 below.

New International Version
If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God.

Truthseeker10:
Explain 1 Corinthians 14:28 below.

New International Version
If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God.

Are we done with the speaking in tongues before jumping here?

Truthseeker10:
Why can't you do that since it is from the same holy spirit?

Did you understand this very verse?

1 Corinthians 12:10
to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.

Truthseeker10:
Do you mean that you have all the gifts listed below?

1 Corinthians 12:10
to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.

You asked is there any gift that you don't have here?

And I said YES

I don't have miraculous gift to wake up the dead as some Apostles of Christ did and some are doing!

Truthseeker10:
In the verse below that you quoted, is there any gift that you don't have here?

1 Corinthians 12:10
to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.

Yes

We should give room for Holy Spirit to operate in our lives!

Truthseeker10:
Do you have the gift of interpreting or you have the gift of tongues? Which one sir?

I have both!

Truthseeker10:
So if I pray in tongues in your presence, you would be able to interprete all what I have said?

Yes because I have the gift!

Truthseeker10:
So everyone with holy spirit is a tongue interpreter?

Read this verse again, I've sent it to you earlier!

1 Corinthians 12:10
to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.

Truthseeker10:
So how would I know if your unknown tongues in prayer is genuine?

If you have Holy Spirit, you'll know

But if you don't give Holy Spirit chance to operate in your kingdom hall (so far if you are one of them) where you are gathered, you won't know all these!

Holy Spirit is meant for everyone who seek for him

Truthseeker10:
are you talking to me? How does this answer connect to the verse that I quoted?

Which verse did you quoted?

If you need explanation to the verse you are asking explanation for, I will send you a link to get all you needed!

Truthseeker10:
So what if there was no interpreter, would praying in tongues still be conducted? Would one be obligated to believe that a person actually speaks in tongues if one does not understand what the person is saying?

And it is not possible not to see anyone without the gift of interpretation of tongues among the congregation!

1 Corinthians 12:10
to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.

Truthseeker10:
Below is 1 Corinthians 14:16

New International Version
16. Otherwise when you are praising God in the Spirit, how can someone else, who is now put in the position of an inquirer, say “Amen” to your thanksgiving, since they do not know what you are saying?

In the bolded above, what was to be said "Amen" to?

What Paul did is exactly the samething Peter and John did in Acts 8:17

Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible didn't say he was praying all what he needs to do is LAY HIS HAND ON THEM!
Please stop adding to God's word speak differs from pray that's why Paul is telling them that they need to know the purpose of praying because when others don't understand what you are saying then it is futile and they are justified if they choose not to say "amen"😟

At the moment when he layed his hands on them, what is Apostle Paul doing? Maybe he was singing right?