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HungerBAD:
Story.

If I believe this story make i get hunchback.

Abi we forget the story of the pikin them born with Quran for hand for lagos?where that miracle pikin sef?laughing.

My verdict?fake story.

GreatSE:
Jesus is no man ......he is not isa your mere prophet

Tuham:
According to my loyal dictionary here, Superstitions are belief in magical and similar influences which are usually widely held but wrong idea.
I no wan carry you go far so make i talk am for my Nigerian English. Simply put, Superstitions are things we belief are connected with magical influences. For example;

#1 - People believe if you're going to a particular place and hit your left foot against something, that is a sign of bad omen.

#2 - If you spit your saliva on the ground whether knowingly or unknowingly and later someone step on it, you're going to experience throat problem sooner although not permanently

#3 - If you hear something like a sound in your ear, na in be say someone don dey talk about your matter for somewhere
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Now My thought is; I don't believe in No #1 and as an average science student, i do not believe in No #3 also. But that of Number #2 is causing confusion cos it seems it had once happened to me.
I even wan put No #2 for experimentation to confirm am but i dey fear for my innocent throat.
You guys can add the superstitions you knew also likewise your opinion on the one i mentioned here and yours.
HAPPY WEEKEND!

sekundosekundo:
Jesus died and paid the price for all believers and that is the end of all sacrifices. If you neglect this price and continue in your sins, you will face the consequences not your brother or sister but you.

dandydrey:
0lodo Jesus is not man!

Try again...

babatgtr:
with this Bible passage you quote, It shows that you are fully ignorant. do u think Bible is like story book that you will just open nd b saying everything there directly, in case u dont know, Bible is close book nd it can only b open for the pple who has the knowledge of God to interpret it. What you quote is fully misinterpretation.

Femiwilli:
NAIRALAND MODS AND THEIR ANTI-CHRISTIAN AGENDA

Many many muslims have turned to Jesus from Islam.
yet it never makes the headlines on Nairaland.
People turn to Jesus because Jesus is able to do what neither allah nor his dead prophet can do.
We all know that Jesus raises the dead and heals as the bible say's
Matthew 15:
29] And Jesus departed from thence, and came nigh unto the sea of Galilee; and went up into a mountain,
and sat down there.
30] And great multitudes came unto him, having with them those that were lame, blind, dumb, maimed,
and many others, and cast them down at Jesus' feet; and HE HEALED THEM


BECAUSE ALLAH & MOHAMMED CANNOT HEAL THE BLIND, DEAF & DUMB ARE HATED

SURA 8:22
Lo! the worst of beasts in Allah's sight are the deaf, the dumb,

SURA 2:17-18
Allah taketh away their light and leaveth them in darkness, where they cannot see, Deaf, dumb and blind.


So please tell me why you should leave Jesus that heals & is alive to follow mohammed that is dead and cannot heal?
This muslim man found out for himself that allah could not heal him so he went to Jesus that heals.
THAT IS POWER


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg8tFx4CKs

plappville:
Are the Apostles of Jesus Arabs or Jews? We got the Gospel through the Arabs or Jews? Did Jesus choose the Arabs to spread the gospel or the Jews? Sure they were aware. Just that they were minority. Clown

gimakon:
We don't worship that. When you say your Qiblah, where do u face? Direction of the moon, isn't it to bow before Muhammed and his Jinn who already has deceived you into scrabbling this.
Face it, Islam with all ideology of terrorism, multiple women etc and it's wickedness it's the dying religion. Christianity doesn't worship the cross unlike Islam... which waits for the moon to come out before they complete a prayer session , Bunch of sick people.

Jayceo:
Why is this on FP? I am starting to believe nairaland just wants to promote Islam.Everything is about somebody converting to islam..thats being a biased forum.Not helpful atall.Just two comments already on FP

Anas09:
And a Muslim in another thread " How Muhammed fits in God's plans for the Jews" is fighting very hard to proof to me that Allah is Yahweh. What is wrong with these muslims abeg. Can't you guys have one voice?
You are like your father the devil, when he speaks a lie, he speaks his natural tongue, for he is the father of all liars.

Anas09:
Hahahahahahahaha. My joy is that you know the truth, although you can't admit it. We have done our duty warning that Allah is Satan, it's left for you to give heed of walk away. Imagine Allah telling you that Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the only begotten son of the only living God, whom God called "My begotten Son" will descend from heaven to kill all the Jews and Christians and give muslims the whole earth. Imaooo. My God!!!.

plappville:
The law was fulfilled in Jesus. That was why He came to earth.

letsbet:
Why do I have a feeling that this thread was created by some ignorant jobless dimwits poking holes at issues too delicate for their comprehension and blaspheming blindly for the sake of cheap internet point. I'll piss on anybody that quote me to say thrash. bloody corksuckrrs.

lexiconkabir:
Bros you wan find trouble ba?

loveroftruth:
https://www.nairaland.com/3227245/breaking-news-terrorist-attack-nice#47600476

I wish to open this discussion with all since not all that would possibly had seen the above post and Thread.

So, rom the above, The argument seems a good rational one it seems, but I feel not all will agree with the above argument, especially the Muslims.

So, let's here from both sides.

Who do you think are the Genuine Muslims, is it the "moderate Muslims" or the ISIS and their co-hot?

loveroftruth:
Care to give evidence of such today?
Do you mean to say: A true Christian follower of Yahweh "will stone wayward kids"?
If the Above is what you meant to say, can you give evident of such a command in the Christian manual? (That will be in the New Testament, Since Christianity means follower of Christ, and followers of Christ started in the New testament of the Bible).

Anas09:
No Muslims are too daft to understand the difference. THey rather worship a moon god with his three daughter the stars. And who ascribes to a higher deity.

Have you heard Allah prays?

Can you imagine? Allah prays and quotes his Angels too. A god quotes his own Angels. Wonderful..

A three headed God that you can't do without.

You try by all means to convince yourself that Allah is Yahweh,

even when you know he is not. You try to make Muhammed his prophet. You can't stand on your own without quoting the Words of this three headed God to validate Islam.
Am here wondering why no Christian Passed and present, ever quotes the Koran to drive home a point.

Anas09:
I don't expect the truth from a man who worships the deceiver of all mankind. Go on man, nothing can save you from yourself.

truthmans2012:
Keep shaking your head and make sure it drops off.

You are not making islamic sense here. Do you own yourself or your allahh owns you?

If people own themselves, why was Muhammad forcing them to accept islam?

If people own themselves, why do you have sharia punishing offenders? Why not allow them to do whatever they like, if they own themselves?

No, you are wrong. If they didn't worship God should they be taking human lives?

There were other nations at that time which did serve God and they were not exterminated, Egypt for example.

truthmans2012:
The Reason

First it must be understood that the extermination of the Canaanites had nothing to do with race, religion, or land. It had everything to do with the judgment of a people for their sins. Yahweh did not command Israel to exterminate the Canaanites because they were a different race. In fact, the Canaanite people were Semitic just like the Israelites. Nor did Yahweh command Israel to exterminate everyone who did not convert to Judaism. There were only ten nations specifically marked for destruction (Deut. 7:1). Three of the ten were dealt with before Israel entered the land of Canaan, leaving seven after they entered the land. The Canaanites were a specific group of people, but their name was also used in a general way to refer to these ten nations. (Sometimes the Amorites were named in the same way.) Yahweh made it clear that Israel was not allowed to attack any of the other nations unless the other nation attacked first (Deut. 20). Israel was never commanded in the Bible to merely kill the Canaanites just to take control of the land itself. Rather Yahweh made it clear that the Canaanite people were being destroyed for their sin and only their sin (Gen. 18:20-21; 15:16; Deut. 7:3-4). The land that was then vacant after the conquest was to be given to Israel as a blessing for their obedience but if they sinned as Canaan had then they too would lose the land.
For whatever reason, Yahweh chose to use Israel as His tool of judgment in the same way that He had used the flood (Gen. 6), plagues (Ex. 7-14), and other empires (2 Kgs. 17:7-23; 24:20-25:30). Yahweh gave Israel the land of Canaan as a reward for their obedience to Him but not because He was playing favorites. In fact, he made it clear that Israel, too, would be judged and lose the land if they committed the same sins (Deut. 7:4, 7-11; 9:4-6; 29:16-29). Later Israel did commit the same sins, and Yahweh took them into exile as judgment as He said He would. He used another nation to do it just as He had used Israel to judge the Canaanites (2 Kgs. 17:7-23; 24:20-25:30). It is this fact that makes it very clear that the extermination of the Canaanites had everything to do with the righteous justice of Yahweh and nothing else. So what were the Canaanites doing that was so sinful that it warranted their destruction?


The Nature of the Canaanites’ Sin

One must understand when we talk about the sin and practices of the Canaanites that we are not talking about a small group of people in these nations; we are talking about everyone. Everyone, including women and, in some cases, children, were involved in the following practices. The Canaanite people were an extremely violent people involved in and promoting idolatry, gang rape, bestiality, child sacrifice, and many other evil and grotesque practices.

1. Idolatry

The idolatry and the worship of pagan gods would not seem like a sin to most people other than Jews and Christians. But in order to understand why they lived the way they did, one must understand the gods that the people of the ancient Near East worshiped. Anyone who has ever studied the mythology or religions of ancient people knows that their gods were not moral beings, according to anyone’s standard in the western world. The gods were always betraying and fighting against each other. Ba’al, the Canaanite storm god, became the high god by defeating Yamm, the sea god. Later, Mot, the god of the grave, attacked Ba’al in order to gain power. Anat, Ba’al’s wife and goddess of war and love, fought her way into the grave to rescue her husband. Ugaritic Ba’al myth describes Anat as taking joy in slaughtering her enemies, cutting off their heads and hands and wearing them as a necklace and belt. She is described as killing so many that she was wading through their blood. The death of Yamm and Mot involved cutting them in half, grinding them up, and sifting them in the wind.
Incest and adultery were also part of the gods’ lives. El, the father of the gods, was married to Asherah, by whom he had seventy children. Ba’al, one of his sons, was married to his sister Anat. One day Ba’al reported to his father that his mother had tried to seduce him. El told him to go ahead and have sex with her in order to humiliate her, which Ba’al did.2 One of Ba’al’s wives was his daughter Pidray.3 These are just a few examples, none of which are portrayed with contempt. If these are the beings that you worship, then you will not be any different or better.

2. Incest and Adultery

The earliest Canaanite laws did prescribe the death penalty for those caught in incest or adultery, but by the fourteenth century BC the penalty had been reduced to a financial fine. However, incestuous fantasies were looked upon with favor and seen as a good omen. The Egyptian Dream book has a section for men that begins with:
“If a man sees himself in a dream…
… having intercourse with his mother: Good. His companions will stick to him.
… having intercourse with his sister: Good. It means that he will inherit something.
… having intercourse with a woman: Bad. It means mourning.”4
Remember, the gods themselves were involved in incestuous relationships. This was so prevalent in the Canaanite culture that Lot’s daughters, after growing up in and being influenced by Sodom, both slept with their father and thought nothing of it (Gen. 19:30–.
Adultery was forbidden by law but only for a married woman. There were no restrictions on the man.5 In fact, temple prostitution was a large part of worship in the Canaanite culture. Asherah or Ishtar, also known as the Queen of Heaven, was a female fertility goddess who was worshiped through sexual acts, including orgies. Temple prostitutes were male and female priests who had dedicated their bodies to the gods and were considered holy priests. People would go to the temples and have sex with these prostitutes as an act of worship. The people of the ancient Near East viewed a sexual act with these priests as sexual union with the goddess herself.6

3. Homosexuality

Just as fantasies of incest were seen as good omens, so was homosexuality. Some statements in the Babylonian magical text (pre-seventh-century B.C.) say:
“If a man has intercourse with the hindquarters of his equal [male], that man will be foremost among his brothers and colleagues.If a man yearns to express his manhood while in prison and thus, like a male cult-prostitute, mating with men becomes his desire, he will experience evil.If a man has intercourse with a cult prostitute, care [troubles] will leave him.”7
There was also a form of homosexuality that was far more violent and subjugating than what we know today. It was not uncommon for a man who wanted to demonstrate his authority and power to rape another man. This act of dominance was seen as a sign of power, and other men looked at this with high regard. The way that one proved his worth to lead others in politics or in the military was through dominating rape. To be the rape victim was so humiliating that no one would ever show respect to that person. The closest thing to this that exists today is when a group of prisoners corner a newcomer in the showers and the alpha male rapes him in order to put him in his place (Gen. 19:4-9; Judg. 19:22).

4. Bestiality

Not only was bestiality practiced and dreams about it seen as good omens, but it was also practiced as a form of worship. Remember, if the gods did it, then certainly the people who worship them would do it.
“Mightiest Baal hears;
 He makes love with a heifer in the outback, A cow in the field of Death’s Realm.
 He lies with her seventy times seven, Mounts eighty times eight;
 [She conceiv]es and bears a boy.”8
There were laws against bestiality but only for certain animals. The Hittite law states:
“If anyone has intercourse with a pig or a dog, he shall die. If a man has intercourse with a horse or a mule, there is no punishment.”9
There were even ritualistic practices involving animals tied to the bed of a woman in order to bring some kind of blessing. The ritual describes the woman not only doing grotesque things with the animal but enjoying it.10
The Egyptian dream book also describes which animals bring good omens when you have a dream about having sex with them. What is most interesting is that it goes on and states that if a woman has a dream where she embraces her own husband, she is doomed.11

5. Child Sacrifice

Molech was a Canaanite underworld deity12 that required child sacrifice in order to prove devotion to him (Lev. 18:21; 20:5; 2 Kgs. 16:3; 21:6; 23:10; 2 Chr. 33:6; Ezk. 16:21; 20:31; 23:37; Jer. 7:31; 19:5; 32:35; Isa. 30:33; 57:9). Molech was portrayed as a man with the head of a bull standing upright with his arms outstretched. Inside his stomach was a fire, and children would be placed in his arms for burning. Molech required that you sacrifice your firstborn son to him in order to ensure the blessings of the gods. Infants and children as old as four were offered up to him. If you built a house, you were to lay one of your sacrificed children as the cornerstone to the building to ensure that the gods blessed the house and family all of its days. If someone wanted to guarantee a victory in battle, they could sacrifice one of their children to ensure the gods fought on their behalf (Judg. 11:30-40; 2 Kgs. 3: 26-27).
“In fact, we have independent evidence that child sacrifice was practiced in the Canaanite (Carthaginian and Phoenician) world from many classical sources, Punic inscriptions and archaeological evidence, as well as Egyptian depictions of the ritual occurring in Syria- Palestine, and from a recently discovered Phoenician inscription in Turkey. There is therefore no reason to doubt the biblical testimony to Canaanite child sacrifice.”13
“No other ancient people, however, regularly chose their own children as sacrificial victims, or equated them with animals which could sometimes be substituted for them. The Phoenician practice indicates a definition of the ‘family’ and the boundaries belonging to it and alienation from it that was incomprehensible to others in the ancient Mediterranean.”14

Is Yahweh’s Judgment Just?

It is obvious that no one today would want to live in a culture where everyone was doing this and more, let alone raise their children in this culture. But the question is were they bad enough that it warranted their total destruction? Was Yahweh just in having them all killed? First, one must understand that there were no police force or prisons in the ancient Near East. Even in our culture we would imprison these people for their crimes. But where do you put them if there are not enough prisons to hold these hundreds of thousands of people and no police to keep the order if they live among you? There is a point at which humans can become so wicked that they will never change.

Animals, Women, and Children

Most people can understand the men being killed, but for Yahweh to command the death of the animals, women, and children is much harder to understand.
In the wild, most animals fear humans and stay away. However, if an entire culture has practiced bestiality and has trained its animals to have sex with humans, then the animals would have not only lost their fear of humans but would expect to have sex with them. Now imagine that animal in the backyard with your children while it is in heat.
The women were killed because they participated in the violence, child sacrifices, bestiality, and sexual immorality just as much as the men did. The women would often fight in battles and participate in the cutting off of the heads and hands along with the men. They would often seduce men from other villages so that their men could kill them (Judg. 16:4-22). They also willingly offered their own child as a burnt sacrifice.
The destruction of the children is much harder to understand. There is a concept known as generational sin, wherein not only will a child become like his parents because he was raised under their instruction and example but also because he came genetically from those parents. There are certainly exceptions, but they are the exceptions. We already know that people are more genetically disposed to alcoholism and other tendencies; scientists are even trying to find the gay gene. Ultimately, this question can only be answered when one comes to understand that Yahweh is good and that a God who is willing to die for us—even for the Canaanites—is a God who can be trusted with where babies go when they die.

Yahweh’s Patience and Desire for Repentance

Yahweh did not just fly off the handle and punish people when they first did something wicked. Yahweh was extremely patient, waiting for hundreds of years for them to reach a certain point of immorality before He judged them. Yahweh is “slow to anger” (Ex. 34:6,7; Ps. 103:. At the time of the flood, Yahweh told the world that they would be judged, and Noah preached to them for 120 years to bring them to repentance before God judged them (Gen. 6:3, 5-8; 1 Pet. 3:19-20). In Gen. 15:16 Yahweh stated that Abraham’s descendants could not take the land of Canaan because the people there were not bad enough to be destroyed yet. This implies that Yahweh waits until nations or people have become wicked enough before He judges them. Yahweh only destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because they had become bad enough for His judgment.
Yet that destruction served as a warning to the rest of the Canaanites that if they did not change, they would be judged as well. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah (2000 B.C.) came 600 years before Israel destroyed the Canaanite nation. We also know that Yahweh placed Abraham and his family in the land in order to witness to the Canaanites, as Noah had previously. From historical records, pre-Abraham, we know that the Canaanites were decent people who became worse and worse and that by the time Israel entered the land everyone was doing the things described above. The Canaanites did not heed the warnings and change.
Yahweh showed this same patience with Israel when He warned them in 1406 B.C. that if they lived like the Canaanites, He would, through another nation, send them into exile (Deut. 7:4, 7-11; 9:4-6; 29:16-29). Yahweh did not punish Israel (the northern kingdom) until 722 B.C. with the Assyrians (2 Kgs. 17:7-23) and Judah (the southern kingdom) in 586 B.C. with the Babylonians (2 Kgs. 24:20-25:30).
When Israel first entered the land, Yahweh did not send warriors to kill people; rather he sent two witnesses to give the people in Jericho a chance to repent and escape the judgment (Josh. 2; Jam. 2:25). Rahab and her family repented, and they not only escaped the judgment but also became a part of Israel. Jericho should have served as an example to the rest of the cities, but, unfortunately, it did not. The Canaanites’ unwillingness to repent and change even to escape judgment shows how bad they really were.
Yahweh has made it clear that He is willing to relent in His judgment if a nation repents of its sins and changes its ways (Jer. 18:7-. He demonstrated this willingness in his dealings with Nineveh (Jonah 3:4-10).
The biggest reason the extermination of the Canaanites bothers us so much is that we do not really appreciate how horrible sin is, nor do we hate it enough. We—being sinners and having sin as an everyday part of our lives, woven into the fabric of our beings—will never be able to understand how a holy and righteous God can be so offended by and justified in His punishment of sin. If we truly understood this, then not only would we understand the extermination of the Canaanites, we would truly be blown away and appreciate the death of Jesus Christ on our behalf. The minute we sinned we forfeited the right to judge a righteous and perfect God.

truthmans2012:
Didn't you see this?

God commanded the Israelites to wage war against those mentioned nations because of their wickedness:

Deuteronomy 9:5
“It is not for your righteousness or for the uprightness of your heart that you are going to possess their land, but it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the Lord your God is driving them out before you, in order to confirm bthe 1oath which the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The reason God commanded the Israelites to wage war against Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites was because of their wickedness. Their extermination was a capital punishment for their sins.

jabojafa:
even for Kuje prison?

Demmzy15:
You can lie woo

truthmans2012:
I cannot keep repeating myself on the same questions, it is up to you to read through if you want to know the truth.y for.

truthmans2012:
Lying? It shows you didn't read the thread from the start, you only want to argue for argument sake.

You don't have MB, but you have it to post all your trash. Why did you start what you can't finish?

truthmans2012:
Nonsense!!!

So this is all you want to come up with despite your "bragado".

Refer to my earlier posts, your questions are already answered. The fact that all you guys are repeating the same questions shows you are exhausted.

For your further education, visit here:

https://www.knowingthebible.net/the-extermination-of-the-canaanites

oaroloye:
(3) WAR OF INVASION.

[color=#FFFFFF].[/color] EXODUS 17:8-16.

8. Then came Amalek, and fought with Israel in Rephidim.
9. And Moses said unto Joshua,
"Choose us out men, and go out, fight with Amalek:
to morrow I will stand on the top of the hill
with the Rod of God in mine hand."
10. So Joshua did as Moses had said to him,
and fought with Amalek:
and Moses, Aaron, and Hur went up to the top of the hill.
11. And it came to pass, when Moses held up his hand,
that Israel prevailed: and when he let down his hand,
Amalek prevailed.
12. But Moses hands were heavy; and they took a stone,
and put it under him, and he sat thereon;
and Aaron and Hur stayed up his hands,
the one on the one side, and the other on the other side;
and his hands were steady until the going down of the Sun.
13. And Joshua discomfited Amalek and his people
with the edge of the sword.
14. And the LORD said unto Moses,
"Write this for a memorial in a Book,
and rehearse it in the ears of Joshua:
for I will utterly put out
the Remembrance of Amalek from under Heaven."
15. And Moses built an Altar,
and called the Name of it Jehovahnissi:
16. For he said,
"Because The LORD hath sworn
that The LORD will have war with Amalek
from generation to generation."

THIS IS WAR- PURE AND SIMPLE.

It does not matter what the JUSTIFICATION for fighting was.

[color=#FFFFFF].[/color] [U]DEUTERONOMY 23:2-6.[/U]

2. A Bastard shall not enter into The Congregation of the LORD;
even to his tenth generation
shall he not enter into The Congregation of The LORD.
3. An Ammonite or Moabite shall not
enter into the Congregation of The LORD;
even to their tenth generation
shall they not enter into The Congregation of The LORD for ever:
4. Because they met you not with bread and with water in the way,
when ye came forth out of Egypt;
and because they hired against thee
Balaam the son of Beor of Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse thee.
5. Nevertheless the LORD thy God would not hearken unto Balaam;
but the LORD thy God turned the curse into a blessing unto thee,
because the LORD thy God loved thee.
6. Thou shalt not seek their peace nor their prosperity
all thy days for ever.

THE STIPULATION WAS "RELIGIOUS WAR."

These people worshipped a different God than what they worshipped, so these Outsiders were not welcome.

Their Seers also would have informed them that THE MOST HIGH GOD, Whom they HATED, had given the Children of Israel their land- so they knew very well what they were doing.

What would you have done, if you were an Amalekite?