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Now Nigeria can shut up about being the first miss World/Universe.

Great be to God. Beautiful Angolan woman! Kiss Kiss Kiss

What is this one talking about lol see what happens when you just type any fluff you like  

Plenty of Africans (ok 4 Africans ) have won Ms Universe
Nigeria still remains the only Black African Nation to have won Ms World

1. List them then
2. You were the one who tried to down play the fact that black immigrants do go to college in the US more than AA, and I said the AA go to college but its the women that make up the bulk of that stat. You were the one dividing from the get go.
3.This is what you said:

[quot]Black american men have shortcomings,no doubt about that. But black american men are overall more successful than black woman in areas of economics,science,entertainment etc. And there are plenty of black american men graduating from college. Furthermore it amuses me that africans point out the ills of black america.[quote][/quote]So you were the one bashing Black women not me, its only later you found solidarity when you couldn't argue your way out of facts and you sort of gave way at it.

4.Biology a real subject lol, just kidding before you complain about that too

5.If you say so, I'm korean lol, I doubt you are AA yourself but whatever if you enjoy pretending ill play along for your sake. And like I said Obama had majority black support after Iowa only a fool argues against facts, go look it up and come back.

6.Like I've said, if you are black period you have the worst reputation in the world, a few crumbs more doesn't change that fact.

Anyway Kony you have complained that Africans stereotype and generalize AA and in effect have done the same thing, what exactly was your point? Instead of being diplomatic about the whole thing and saying why some Africans have offended you, you added gas to the flame congrats you are your worst ememy.

You'll probably write some long story, insulting me questioning my AA, I honestly don't care, however I do know that you have made yourself a perfect example of the ignorant people that can be found on both sides of the fued.

PS its moot and not mute lol

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=670595.msg8372683#msg8372683 date=1306088783]1. Its quite obvious that i didnt mean voice in that way. What i was trying to say is that black americans are the most powerful and influential of blacks anywhere in the world. And our success benefits blacks worldwide yet we are constantly disrespected and ridiculed by africans. Dont make me seem like the bad guy here

2. Black american men overall are more successful than black women. What stats fall in your favor? If you look at the wealthy,ceos,highest  paid blacks etc that list will be dominated by black men. All i was trying to say is that blacks overall benefit from the success of black women. You cant separate accomplishments on sex

3. I guess i am doing something about that. I graduated from college lol. Are we really going to nitpick problems in the black community when africans have problems that are way worst in comparison?

4. Your not AA. Black people could careless about iowa or any other caucus. Most blacks voted for Obama just because he was black(especially black youth). WTF are you talking about

5. Like i said africans have the worst reputation on the planet

I find it laughable how those people could turn from being slaves dropped off in a foreign land-to being the most successful blacks on the planet. The BA gdp is 1 trillion US dollars, what is Africas(the entire continent)? lol

I didnt want to go there[/quote]1. So now you don't mean it like that, that contradicts what you said a page ago, but whatever,
2.Well because despite being black you are still men, so obviously black women who are black and female have to fight against racism and sexism, but you ignore that too I guess.
3.I doubt that, but anyway.
4.My father was Born in NC, the 3rd generation in family who just came out of slavery, he told me stories of talking to his grandfather about his work on the plantations in the South. So what am I then, Korean?
5.And so do AA, next page please. Instead of worrying who is doing worst worry about what can be done to fix both communities problems, but that would require a functioning brain wouldn't it?

Well you ignore the fact that the United States is rich, even if AA are not paid a fair wage they still make off much better than most third world people, this doesn't down play the strives AA have made in the US.

This summarizes my point:

Blacks are richer in America because America is richer.

The pie is so big in America that even when it is divided unjustly, as it is, it still leaves most people with more pie than any ordinary person would get in the Third World. Which is why people from the Third World come to America

And this is by a black guy so if you don't agree take it up with him.

And your point about that GDP what is being done in the community to utilize it? Hmm. get back to me when you figure that part out.

[quote author=A.D.M. link=topic=670595.msg8372667#msg8372667 date=1306088650]You're avoiding my comment. You come to the defense of Africans that are attacked. Fine with me. Have you ever came to the defense of non-Africans that were bashed by Africans?[/quote]Yes I have.

This is what I said in another thread

Its misunderstanding and lack of communication on both sides that fuel the tensions, if people would attempt open up on both sides and learn about each other without demeaning the other it would go a long way, there are things that are different between the two groups but it cannot be so hard to find common ground.

In the thread that ask why Americans hate Africans, I said its not that anyone hate anyone but everyone is working off of stupid stereotypes about each other and both sides are guilty for allowing stereotypes to guide their opinion of a group of people. Its hard to defend AA when Kony is here justifyiing and reinforcing stereotypes left and right, but I'm not taking a side. Its everyone's da.mn fault for the "tension" between the communities I see the comments and insults made on both sides, no ones hands are clean.

[quote author=A.D.M. link=topic=670595.msg8372614#msg8372614 date=1306088110]And yet, saiyaman, you're tearing down AAs. I find it funny you will go after AAs who hate Africans and remain silent when some Africans express hate for AA. I guess you have hate for them, too.[/quote]Tearing down who because I pointed out the truth that everyone has their own problems? Please get hell out of here with that crap. I go after people who do nothing but create division, period. If you are like Kony period I dislike you whether you are African, AA, or whatever. This is Kony m.o. cause division and instigates fights.

Please you don't me so I suggest you go talk a bout your own problems and who you hate.
After this idi.ot said that AA men were going to school more than AA women where were you to correct him? Please maybe you have your own biases.

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=670595.msg8372225#msg8372225 date=1306083976]1. Its laughable that africans had to fight for equality in there own countries lol. Just had to get that out the way. But anyway, as far as the united states are concerned it was black americans that made it happen im not talking about what happened in africa. BA's have nothing to do with that. Blacks have made tremendous progress for a people that received equal rights only a generation ago

2. Since when did people divide women accomplishments between men accomplishments. Who does that? I dont look at the accomplishments of Martin luther king or malcolm x as black men accomplishments, they are black american accomplishments. Black woman accomplishments are for all black people

And black americans are working on their issues. What makes you think we're not

3. As far as schools are concerned. Blacks have 100s of HBCU's scattered across the country all full with thousands of black americans. Just another dumb african stereotype

4. You really think the WHOLE black community felt that way? Really? Dont speak for a community you know nothing about. Blacks have always supported obama. Half of us didnt even know he was biracial as he looks like the average black american. I've been supporting him since 2007

5. The stereotypes of africans are extremely bad on a global level. Africans and BA's are both black but we're looked at differently. Thats just the reality of it. The problems and poverty black americans witness in america is minuscule compared to africans and africa.

Egypt,mali,ghana lol You have to go back hundreds/thousands of years in the past to get positive aspects of africa? Black americans dont have to do that

Fela is known to africans. In know way shape or form is he a recognizable name. It wasnt even worth it to bring him up

Im sure there are plenty devery graduates more successful than you. lol[/quote]1. You said AA were the voice for Africans, so own up to your idio.tic statement lol
2.Yeah you are quick to say that now when stats are not in your favor lmao
3.And your point is? AA unfortunately have poor school attainment and at the High School level, a real issue to discuss, are you doing anything about that?
4.If I'm AA am I not part of the AA community? Shut up stupid, prove me wrong then, counter the posts that were written the polls, Did I say every AA did not support him retard? No I said a good deal were for Hillary Clinton until Obama won Iowa, which can be show in polls and surveys. Stop talking out of your a.ss.
5.And your point is, AA are looked at poorly by all immigrant groups as well as the majority group in the US and Africans the same thing, stop trying to split hairs
6. Once again you can quickly find negative aspects about Africans and AA, right now as we speak.

Dervery? lol Like I said, a High school drop out is Kony


Too bad you can't get a refund on that junk degree lol

Anyway I don't have time for losers that have nothing better to do besides tearing down another person,

Actually quite a number of AA watch Nollywood films, I've seen a number of blacks in the African store asking the owners which films to buy. Instead of being proud of the fact that Nollywood, an entirely black industry, is the second largest in the world despite the challenges it faces in making fimls you are here being an idi.ot and demanding respect. And on the music front several Nogerians have been listed in the international catagory in the BET awards, who makes the nominee list, Koreans. Tuface has been interviewed on BET, Genevieve on CNN, and Oprah. Stop causing drama and focus on the positives, change and inform each other, its easy and lazy to insult but much harder to fix a problem.

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=670595.msg8369391#msg8369391 date=1306033151]So what about this
http://youtu.be/PrhmyqS-Qn4[/quote]So what do you plan on doing to ease tensions between both communities? Or do you plan on insulting Africans and making things worse?

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=670595.msg8369020#msg8369020 date=1306023895]As far as blacks in america, whether their be BA,African or Caribbean. It was black americans that fought the battle for equality. The only reason an african can escape the hell hole of africa and make it in america is because of black americans

The fact that africans allowed europeans and arabs to take over an entire continent of black africans has nothing to do with the united states

If all else fails, try turning the black american male vs the female. A tactic whites are known for. I didnt run away from anything. The accomplishments of black american females are accomplishments for all black americans dummy. Why are u separating the sexes, they both black lol

I can tell you as a real black american, that blacks have supported him since day one. Just because some blacks voted/supported for hilary means nothing

Black americans are in no way as stereotyped as africans. Your delusional if you think so. Africans have the worst reputation on the planet. Blacks have negative aspects and a'lot of positive ones. What positive has come out of africa? Even when a black american goes overseas he/she is looked at in a more positive light than an african

If for nothing else, you comparing fela to beyonce shows your an i.diot   lol[/quote]AA fought for their equality like everyone else did in their own countries, Africa is not a hell hole, but then again you are ignorant and ignorant people say ignorant things. Africa is a continent comprised of 54 countries each with their own situation and circumstances, You are playing the ignorant American stereotype to a tee lol

And your point? Who said it had anything to do with America? And they didn't allow anything, if you actually read some of the threads here instead of cooking up trouble you would know that.

You were the one being divisive, this thread is a case in point lol. You were the one who went around saying that AA males go to college more than the women which I corrected you on, so you quickly closed your mouth on that point. And no they are AA women accomplishments, don't take that away from them, they work take care of the kids and still find time to study, while not all but too many rather roam the streets making babies and getting involved with the wrong things. When you guys want to work on your issues you are welcomed to the table.  

And you keep going on about Africans should bow down to AA for helping to get into those schools, why are AA not going to these same schools that they fought so hard to enter, you open the door but don't want to enter what was the point of opening it? If you actually were serious, you would focus on real issues like that instead you are here making silly threads like these

Then why are there tons of articles by Black people asking if Obama is Black enough? Because they just thought of writing on that topic for fun Some, a majority of Blacks were for Hillary until the Iowa caucus and it was SC that really made AA root for Obama.

AA are called:
lazy
silly
baby makers
beggers
drug dealers
criminals
drain on society
ugly
monkeys


Africans:
lazy
baby makers
savages
criminals
drain on society
ugly
monkeys

^^
Looks like the same insults are used for both groups.
Which positive ones, was it only a couple of months ago on that 20/20 show What would you do, that in one of the scenarios people called the police on AA teens who were sleeping in their car in the wrong neighborhood (aka white neighborhood) were the people who were making those calls thinking of the positive aspects? Or do you really believe the AA are not treated to the same crap as the rest of the people of African descent are given?  

Positive things out of Africa? The Benin Bronzes, Egypt, Mali empire, Ghana Empire, the Benin Empire, Nri, and the list goes on and on, really are you that dumb?

Once again no one compared Fela to Beyonce, what I said is that he is an important figure in music because he has been recognized for his influence on several artists.

You are the idi.ot that uses his free time to complain and cause division, and when provided facts and figures quickly bails out lol

Devry is just giving those degrees away apparently

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=670595.msg8365782#msg8365782 date=1305981514]Wow your an african american and you;ve spent all tyour time downing other african americans. LOL. Pathetic

Nobody has lost or has been beat. If it wasnt for black americans, people of african descent would have absolutely no clout on a global scale whatsoever. This is common sense and common rationale

Your college argument makes absolutely no sense. It makes no difference whether its men or women going to college. They're both black americans . Im not understanding your rationale or lack thereof

Black people have supported Obama since day won. Nobody ever that was black took obamas presidency for granted ever. Obama is in that office because of the hardnwork of black people before him. Thurgood marshall,martin luther king,malcolm x etc. Obama is not the first or last great black man. It didnt take a kenyan and a white, there have been great black men before him. I wouldnt put obama on the same level as a martin luther king-the man responsible for a black man to even become president in the first place.

And barack obama is black american . He has said it himself. Who are you going to believe me you or himhimself

Your last paragraph either points you out as an or an african. You cant be a BA saying dumb sh.t like that. Black Americans make the most strides in science,politics,economics,influence,art,literature etc The black american GDP is way bigger than that of the whole continent of africa. When you cut on your tv anywhere in the world, you will see a black american before an african. Dont try to downplay the black american influence

Where did you get your degree from?[/quote]Downing who exactly, I'm downing your stupidity, instead of working to diffuse tension you are here creating more strife over nothing honestly. Its all you do period.

And you know this how? Did Blacks in America fight for the independence of Africans or West Indians? No they did not, everyone fought their own battles.

You brought the point up not me. Why when confronted with the fact that Black men are not going to college at the same as Black women, you want to run from that fact

No they did not, Blacks were behind Hillary until Obama started wining, mainly the Iowa win, before that it was "Is Obama black enough" and it was talked about in most black media. After that win and Clinton's SC fiasco, Blacks started to pull for Obama.

And my point still stands, Obama was treated as a non-AA even though he identified as one until he proved himself
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1584736,00.html
http://www.cjr.org/politics/is_obama_black_enough.php
http://newsbusters.org/node/10912

^^^

Is that made up too

I believe Obama, but not everyone believed him at one point and that is a fact.

Because you ignore the fact that AA are stereotyped to the tee as much as Africans are, if you think otherwise you are a dummy

Hopefully not at the same place you received yours, dude you can't write for anything lmao, its like a monkey typing with his foot wrote that post

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=670595.msg8365821#msg8365821 date=1305981981]Well since your supposedly black american, you tell me?

Lol where was africans during civil rights?

And you were basically to dumb to understand what i was really saying in the first place lol[/quote]Um the were in Africa, fighting for their independence from Europe
You said AA are the voice of Africans, good or bad, Darfur was bad and I remember White teens on college campuses with the "Save Darfur" posters
[quote author=A.D.M. link=topic=670595.msg8366915#msg8366915 date=1305994689]I didn't want to get involved, but I could not resist. K.o.n.y., if you're going to talk about black accomplishments, don't just mention entertainers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_inventors_and_scientists

http://www.blackentrepreneurprofile.com/fortune-500-ceos/

Tada!

K.o.n.y., why are you trying to start trouble? What's your problem?

Saiyaman, you're not AA. I noticed you used the term "daft." That's a British slang I think an overwhelming majority of Americans don't know. As for Barack Obama, he self-identifies as black/AA. Look it up yourself. Inked_Nerd, is akata some kind of ethnic slur like spic and guido?[/quote]Believe whatever you want, I'm not here to prove to you who I am, if you want to also believe I'm Japanese, Indian, Brazilian, and Pakistani, you are welcomed to lol

Look what up, it wasn't me who was doubting the man. AA at the very beginning were, go ask WTF was that about.

A word is what you make it to be, Akata is not a slur, but some use it as such.

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=670595.msg8367805#msg8367805 date=1306004470]I was going to get to that. Black americans have invented more things than any other race of blacks in the last 100 years or so

And yes there are many more black businesses than there are african ones. I mention entertainers because they are the most well known and an example of black american influence. Which is by far greater than africans

And it would make perfect sense that she was black british. What have they done but be a watered down version of BA's but with an accent. They cling to everything we do here in the states.lol[/quote]Yeah, despite the fact I've never been to Britain lol.

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=670595.msg8363914#msg8363914 date=1305951585]Black americans are the main voice for africans in the world. POSIVETIVE OR NEGATIVE[/quote]Really? Well where were AA for the people of Darfur? Laryngitis?

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=670595.msg8363894#msg8363894 date=1305951145]silly african. Obama accomplished what he accomplished because of black americans like Martin luther king and  Malcolm x. Both are traditional african americans and paved the way for him

Africans are looked at as being bombed out and depleted on a worldwide level. Show me the african michael jackson or michael jordan,  than i'll take you seriously[/quote]By the way I'm African American just like you silly

Congrats, when one knows they have been beat they use fallacy to make an argument
What happen to AA men going to college more than the women? Or the fact that you guys spend more time behind bars than behind a book?

But Obama is not traditionally African American, and I remember at one point that was a big issue until Obama started winning, that was when Blacks gave their supports so don't act like AA were there from day one. And the fact remains, were there no AA that could do what Obama did? It took a half Kenyan half White guy to have a black guy in the White House

Because all AA can do is sing an play sports? That is your definition of success? You are a monkey in every sense of the word, shiny things make you happy easily What is your fixation on celebrities, the richest black man in the world is a Nigerian. The Banker of the Year was Sansui.

Start naming things of substance and maybe I may take your Devry degree a little more serious 

And in America AA are looked at the same way, what is your point?

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=670595.msg8360271#msg8360271 date=1305904498]How did i sweep it under the rug. People dont know who fela is whether beyonce gave her a cosign or not
Your comparing a no name to a global icon. What african global icon,personality is close to a beyoncel, lol at not even having a beyonce level icon

1. Barack Obama is a BLACK AMERICAN. He recognizes himself as such-married a BLACK AMERICAN woman and has BLACK AMERICAN kids. When addressing the african american community, he refers to us as "WE "OUR" ETC. I understand there are very few africans to look up to in 2011 but dont steal ours. BA is genetically closer to black americans than he is an african

2.Lol africans number one trump card they pull out is -College. Ya need to get it through your thick heads -BLACK MEN GO TO COLLEGE. I give the few african immigrants who go through college a pat on the back. good for you. But to suggest there are more black men going to jail, than enrolling in college each year is absurd. The statistics are so skewed.

Black american men still hold the biggest and most powerful positions across the board of any blacks anyway so the college thing is irrelevant. For all the african college grads you have, they still arent dominating top positions as black americans

Im actually a college graduate. And no this is not the oppressed olympics its simply calling delusional africans out on their bull sh.t[/quote]1.Ok if you say so, congrats
Steal who? Obama is a person not an object to be stolen The honest to god truth we should be ashame that it took an African man and White woman to have an AA president, why couldn't the person be a traditional AA are there no leaders or politicians of Obama's caliber in the community? Who is BA, if you mean Obama he is closer to Europeans and Kenyans than African Americans, unless you want to link to his white ancestry If you look at his Kenyan ancestry he is even farther from AA who are primarily of West African descent.

2. Ok bring out the stats then, prove to us that Black men go to college more than black women? I'll save you the time no they don't, so get that through your thick head lol, but you can't make up stats can you

http://www.jbhe.com/features/50_blackstudent_gradrates.html
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/691287/why_do_more_black_women_attend_college.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3919177/ns/us_news-life/t/number-black-men-college-dwindle/

All lies right

What top positions, can you list them? And preferably not celebrities.
And what is more important, college education or a few Blacks in high positions? Really don't be that daft.

You graduated from college really? And you busy yourself with this, I would ask for a refund from your Alma mater because it was a waste. If anything you are the delusional one here

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=670595.msg8356447#msg8356447 date=1305860673]1. Yes in the grand scheme of things, the africans you've mentioned are completely irrelevant next to the african americans i mentioned. They dont spark a plug with the global populous in the same way. They are at best african legends,not global icons like the AA's i

2.I could careless about harvard statistics, which btw i think your wrong anyway. Black americans are still the biggest political,social,economical figures in the united states. For all africans "supposed" success in ivy league schools. They come no where close to black americans in positions that matter or of importance

3. Black american men have shortcomings,no doubt about that. But black american men are overall more successful than black woman in areas of economics,science,entertainment etc. And there are plenty of black american men graduating from college. Furthermore it amuses me that africans point out the ills of black america. Africans and the state of africa is like 10x times worst than anything in black america. African men are a joke compared to black american men. Samething with women[/quote]1. Ok if you say so, noticed how you swept it under the rug on Beyonce, but you never keep it classy so I digress

2.Here:
http://www.examiner.com/public-education-in-chicago/african-immigrants-affirmative-action-and-harvard-university
http://clutchmagonline.com/2011/04/harvard-has-more-black-students-than-ever-but-are-they-african-american/
http://www.nuatc.org/articles/pdf/CollegesTakeMoreTopBlacks.pdf

Um Obama is African, if you get technical about it, but there are plenty of Africans being hired by the Obama administration to high level positions and a Nigeria was in very prominent positions at the World Bank/IMF. And Africans make up quite a bit of the Doctors and Nurses in the US, you are very likely to run in to an African doctor and most often they are Nigerian

3.Um no you are not Black men are being out paced by black women when it comes to college education, its hard to go to college behind bars which is where a good deal of black men already are or will be heading too. And what are you talking about economics and etc, are you BSing like usual, please Negro black women are the only reason AA stats are not as bad as they could be, take them out and its a very bleak outlook.

And your point is? Are you competing for the goal medal in the Oppressed Olympics? If AA and Africans are both doing poorly and one is doing slightly better but still poorly does it matter? Or is -6 and -10 that big of a difference to you Really the only joke here is you lol a jobless bum that has nothing better to do than create divisiveness and strife instead of fixing the problem. Has Wal-mart stopped hiring that you can't put what little talents you do have to better use? Mc Donalds? Some one has to be accepting applications in your area, go hit them up and ask for one

[quote author=k.o.n.y link=topic=670595.msg8356274#msg8356274 date=1305857205]None of them are known period. Fela is not a name that people worldwide are familiar with like the people(black americans) i've mentioned. Beyonce a black american, is way bigger than fela and ive never heard her mention her. One african gets a broadway play and your going to compare that to the accomplishments of black americans, really

And only mlk is worthy, lol I mentioned michael jackson and michael jordan two of the most famous people on planet earth. What african is close to that? In anyway shape or form

And why do delusional africans feel like black americans arent making strides till this day. We have hundreds of hbcus across america giving thousands of black americans degrees. And black americans are still the most influential blacks in the world. So what the hell are you talking[/quote]Because you don't know them that makes them irrelevant, ok lol
And I guess you don't read because Beyonce has said several times her new album was influenced by Fela
Man you are not serious, Harvad themselves said that a bulk of their black minorities were not AA they were Africans and West Indians, and so have the other Ivy Leagues schools so take that up with them.

If African Americans were attaining degrees, which if you break it down its really AA women who deserve that distinction, the guys seem to be busy with other things why have gains in certain areas have either stagnated or reversed? Instead of worrying about real issues you are here trying your best to put down people by citing celebrities as accomplishments to be proud of, ignorant fool. Honestly you did your own self a disservice with that idiotic list

Influential to who? Did you help Nigerians gain independence with said influence? Or Ghana? Or any of the multitudes of African and African descent states?


Please Negro go back to your minimum wage job while the adults, both African and AA discuss real issues ok