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ChinenyeN:Everybody wants to get the win Changing the conditions in your favor ![]() |
ChinenyeN:Moving the goal post ![]() |
[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=227222.msg9163325#msg9163325 date=1316233249]When two people of different origins continues to marry and bear offspring through generations, wouldnt those tho groups be mixed. Correct me if I'm wrong, havent the Yorubas/Igbos, Hausas/Yoruba, Yorubas/Calabars been marrying for years now. oOf course, you have some people who are "pure" Yorubas (like me) and some who are "pure" Igbos with "no taint". At the rate everybody is mixing in Nigeria, in 50 yrs from now, what would we call those generations? Or is that not the standard we used to define "mixed" carribeans, i.e Jamaicans?[/quote]When I think of mixed I think Black and White or Asian and White etc. most people wouldn't count a Yoruba and Igbo marriage as mixed because they are of the same race, Black That's how I look at it ![]() |
Like I said I'm not an expert on Asians but that's what they say and what I heard ![]() |
[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=227222.msg9163240#msg9163240 date=1316229515]I still dont understand how some ppl can say Africans are not mixed. . . . please refer back to your colonial times. Really, if we're going by looks here, I wonder how you can tell apart a Yoruba man and a Bini man. Lol Nigeria is soooo mixed thanks to intertribal marriage and trade, so yes there is a mixture of blood within some families and groups. Before colonization forced us under one roof, each group was distinct from another.[/quote]Of course some Africans are mixed Cape Verde people most definitely are an example. But An Igbo woman and Yoruba man are of the same race, how exactly can one mix? |
I'll be honest I cant tell Asians apart except for Japanese but there are differences according to Asians, Japanese tend to be the Fairest while Chinese tend to be slightly tan, Vietnamese Laotian etc tend to be slightly darker than the other two and Indonesia and the Philippines are the tannest of the Asian groups. Then some of them divide by eye creases, they can tell like Nigerians can tell each other apart I guess, |
pleep:Lol lord knows we've all been waiting for the 411 on that ![]() Don't hold your breath for those facts though ![]() |
MsDarkSkin:Now that we know you know how to use a computer how's about finding those sources lol I love how you are busy correcting my posts yet can't do that simple task lmao, quick step away ![]() Never seen someone dodge like that ![]() |
MsDarkSkin:Yep I'm sad, next line of attack Instead of addressing what I said way back when you keep quick steping, that's alright though everybody's got your number its pretty clear now ![]() And even with your knowledge of other languages you have yet to master English ![]() |
MsDarkSkin:Yes unless I was arguing with a wall you are the with I'm referring to but on second thought the former statement might be true lol Um yeah I log off and on every now and then, is that a foreign concept? And I doubt you finished part one of Any Nigerian movie in such short time lol who are you fooling ![]() Then stop responding to me then. Simple. Maybe I sould say this all in Korean or something lol Lol when you start flying I'll follow ![]() |
MsDarkSkin:By being on it all the time ![]() I read and comment when I feel like it ![]() You've been arguing with me for the past hour even though you said I was not worth your time, so who is seeking out whom ![]() Spelling mistakes it happens didn't Nairaland was home of the Grammar Nazis lol ![]() Nope born and raised in the good 'ol USA And its the internet if you want private conversation try email lmao some people lolAnd if you post in a public people have the right to address your comments if you want to take videos of you crapping its your choice too lol am I stopping you? And I don't think I ever asked who pays for your internet ![]() |
MsDarkSkin:Um if you don't want others opinion I suggest you stop posting yours on the internet ![]() Ok then why are you still bothering me then, if you called a day ![]() Like I said stop responding to my post and I'll stop responding to yours, like I said if you don't have any facts then keep it moving its not by force you have to talk lol ![]() I'm glad you years of stalking Nairaland has improved your pidigin anything constructive you'd like to add? I doubt it ![]() |
MsDarkSkin:lol I guess you must be in the mood for singing, all I asked was for some out sources and instead you broke out in song lmao ![]() |
Anyway, anybody else have opinions on this topic ![]() |
MsDarkSkin:Well its an official document and its a dictionary which are considered credible sources. I'm asking[b] you[/b] who did you [/b]cite that backs up[b] your claim, is that clearer? And a source that does not come from Nairaland ![]() Then go watch you movie, I'm not stopping you ![]() I don't want to chat I'm only answering responses made to my post, if you don't want a response then don't quote me?! Yeah I doubt we have the same taste in films, I'll pass ![]() |
Anyway does anyone with actual facts and documentation of some sort have anything to add to this conversation ![]() |
MsDarkSkin:You didn't quote anything lol unless you typed up their quote in fine print lol Like I said even a wrong ill informed opinion has a right to be an opinion lmao ![]() I guess this is the part where you disappear as usual ![]() I modify my post to address stuff you said that I may have missed the first time around, and the reason I called your Theory bogus was because you have yet to cite any source other than your own opinion, I can think the sky is purple but until I back it up with facts that say yes it is purple then my opinion is moot ![]() Why do I care if you are offended, if you have an argument you should defend it. Simple. If you are tired I suggest you go take a nap ![]() |
MsDarkSkin:Um no offense but your source was Nairaland lol Wikipedia would have been even more scholarly ![]() What are you talking about, are you offended because I challenged your opinion? Is that not how people discuss things or would you prefer for all of to agree with your line of thinking even if it doesn't have much fact beyond "they have to be mixed" Those sources come from writings of Europeans who actually went to the region which is a lot more credible in my opinion, they documented what they saw. In addition to a Jamaican English dictionary and writings of the ethnic groups brought to the Caribbean. Well we all have the right to believe in whatever we like even if its completely false and devoid of fact ![]() I'd like you to bring out some sources not from Nairaland please ![]() |
pleep:I have no problem with having different theories of the reason why some Igbo people are light, but the problem is that she is not showing any facts to back up her claims. At no point in Igbo history was there contact with Arab people nor are there any places for overlap to occur between the two groups. In addition to that the Igbo practice their own religion until the British arrived, the trend through out Africa is that where Africans and Arabs came in contact they often took up Islam which is the case for much of the sahel of West Africa, why would the Igbo be any different? The fact that in recording from Europeans they remarked that some Igbo were fair and yellow in appearance, if they were having se.x with Igbo women would they not already know the reason for their looks. The fact that fair features have cropped up Igbo art for ages before Europeans set foot And I say this as a Black American woman |
MsDarkSkin:Its called sarcasm http://books.google.com/books?id=_lmFzFgsTZYC&pg=PA168#v=onepage&q&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=KGrKMP9AiGsC&pg=PA251&dq=igbo+light+skin&hl=en&ei=nM1zTurJMoKCtgex_Ly7DA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CFIQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=igbo%20light%20skin&f=false http://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=igbo+light+skin&btnG=#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&tbo=1&tbm=bks&source=hp&q=igbo+yellow+skin&pbx=1&oq=igbo+yellow+skin&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=227359l231100l0l231397l13l12l1l0l0l1l1074l5792l0.1.4.1.0.2.1.2l11l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=49f6548467eb52ff&biw=1366&bih=665 http://books.google.com/books?id=-WA7AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA315&dq=eboe+yellow+skin&hl=en&ei=cc9zTsmdI9C4tge56eiqDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=eboe%20yellow%20skin&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=oZItAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA369&dq=eboe+yellow+skin&hl=en&ei=cc9zTsmdI9C4tge56eiqDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=eboe%20yellow%20skin&f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=QAfma-TdZpIC&pg=PA119&dq=eboe+yellow+skin&hl=en&ei=cc9zTsmdI9C4tge56eiqDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CFIQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=eboe%20yellow%20skin&f=false I prefer science and figures, some like stories I guess, |
MsDarkSkin:No the fact of the matter is that when ever Africans came in contact with Arabs they often took up Islam which is why most of the ethnic groups across West Africa who are closest to the Sahara are Muslim (places of contact with Arabs). The reason why Somalis are muslim parts of Ethiopia and so on and so forth, Focus West Africa and Tainos are two different things ![]() Even though genetics which is more credible says otherwise, well ok I guess a story is proof over DNA science, Even recording by Europeans remarked that some Igbo people had a yellowish color surely since they were rap.ping left and right they would not have noted this, The origin of the Igbo people is as controversial as that of the Yoruba and the Bini. There are so many versions and it is very difficult to say which is the most acceptable. The biggest tip off not to take anything as true and whole fact, |
michelin89:https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-759038.0.html#msg9140997 |
MsDarkSkin:Ethiopians are not mixed if anything Arabs came from out of the area and not into it, Do you have any proof for the mixing or do you assume that every black African should be three shades midnight to be a true African, if people could leave out of Africa and become lighter it is very likely for those same conditions to occur in Africa. The South East has portions of it that is heavily forested, its possible that created the need for lighter skin to maximize the available light to create Vitamin D The fact that Igbo people are not Muslim is the biggest flaw, how can most groups that have come in contact with Arabs become Muslim but the Igbo? And what area are you assuming Igbo people to have previously lived in to even come in Contact with Arabs. The fact you don't believe evolution occurs makes your theory pretty bogus ![]() |
MsDarkSkin:No not really, Hausa people have slight Arab ancestry and often darker than Southerners from the pictures I've seen, so it not left to admixture, climate, diet, and plenty of other things can cause melanin count to be higher and lower in some groups. Monalisa Chinda is light and Igbo not because admixture but because somewhere along the line one of her ancestors adapted the trait for lighter skin. The San people are their color because something may have caused the need for that adaptation. Quite a few Ethiopians are fair in complexion and time and time again there is no sign of admixture, so its not always being mixed, |
Changing the conditions in your favor 
That's how I look at it 
remember what you said? that all light skinned Africans are caused by mixture with other races? that would mean a huge number of Africans are mixed. 
Anyway I didn't look for OR speak to you, 