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ifeness:
Are you an Arab?

No I am not

Rapsainot:
OP, is talking about relationship Ma

Yes I agree it's talking about relationship, but someone answered me , if u think money is not important, than u dunno what poverty is. So that is my answer to that. Not the topic..

djeezy:
Both are very important. Money is used to express love.

My husband express to me acts of love everday, and honey it's F.O.C. free of charge....

With that said about love, I still stand strong that love comes first in relationship. I have faced through tough time s with my then bf, but we let love menifest into out union and we are happily married with two kids and financially sound. All thanks to who? God. And God is about Love too. If u dunno God, u dunno love.

Apatheist:
Unlike the Qur'an, the Bible wasn't written by one person, and wasn't written together ie it was written at various times. If you see a Qur'an claiming prophet Muhammad raped someone would you believe it?


There are [url=http://carm.org/ contradictions - quran]contradictions in the Qur'an[/url] too.
There are contradictions in ALL religious books..

It's interesting that u claim there are contradictions in the Quran. I have nvr came across one. And I could not locate in carm.

I know I may be asking too much, but if u could please please, just give me one contradiction within the surahs in the Quran.

Rapsainot:
what if he doesn't make money in the process, maybe you don't understand what poverty really means

I do know what poverty is, though I have nvr experienced it on my own, but love is still number one even u face poverty.

I have seen young children in Somalia in poverty, orphaned and starving, but love kept them alive ,looking after each other just to keep them alive. That is love. Money will helped them , but love is their salvation.

Apatheist:
In 325 AD, the emperor Constantine in conjunction with the bishops at the council of Nicea accepted the Gospels of; Matthew, Mark, Luke and John as the only true gospels. In 382 AD the emperor Theodosius banned all gospels that had not been canonized. Christians were not permitted to read them and they were allegedly gathered up and destroyed as much as possible.

Consider this verse from the Gospel of Thomas:
the final saying Thomas contains:

(Thomas 114)
Does this sound like something Prophet Isa would say?


-- Infancy Gospel of Thomas
Would Prophet Isa do this?
This is the list of gnostic gospels

I am in awe of your knowledge in the bible, when ur not a Christian . Which one you have more knowledge on Quran or bible?

I am also confused , with the contradictions that is within the bible itself. It would be nice to have a Christian brother or sister to explain this to me. But since u have knowledge in it, u may also give it explanation.

debraleey:
Is this aimed at stirring up intolerance or what?.....when u know Christians will say Bible and Muslims will say Quran........just stick to urs n everyone else stick to their's........plus it doesn't make sense to post here that another religious book which is different from urs is not authentic cos dats wat u r saying in essence.....one thing leads to another......stay blessed! Shalom!

Intolerance is only when one cannot be open and be free with others and their differences. Growing up in a multi racial and multi religious society have brought me up as a person with a fairly good level of tolerance, being married to a Christian and live in a mixed religions family also shows I have tolerance, and appreciates others than is able to do so too. we also constantly seek the truth, and since Jews Christians and islam really had the same beginning, it is only normal to have discussions about it. That is also why, this site have 'religion' as a default subject o be to start a topic on. Peace be upon you.

Rapsainot:
fucck love, MONEY matters

Husband and I started tough,with love, we makemoney. Maybe u haven't experienced true love.

First is love . Second money.

salinakrogh:
I'm sorry, I dont quite get it, what did they remove that was thought to be forgeries?

And how can one decide which one add in which one to omit, if it's from God, u can't do that. It's just like editting God's word.

And even within the books, there are way too many contradictions, this boom contradict what the other books says, Isit a way of saying that God is unsure of what God wants to convey?

Apatheist:
It is related.
I apologize.

No problem.

Apatheist:
I do not have faith at all.
Is faith your reason?
Do you choose to have faith in Allah and Al-Qur'an?

That's is not the topic . Like I said if u want to talk about that u should start ur own thread.

Apatheist:
Ok then.


There are different "types" of the Bible because it was written in 4 different languages.
And the manuscripts were discovered at different times.
The Hebrew version was first and the people transcribing it understood Hebrew.
Also, some books were separated. Eg in the Hebrew Bible the book of Samuel is one big book, but it was divided into two-- Samuel 1 and 2. etc.
The Septuagint was written in Greek, and some scribes couldn't read Greek.
Later the Catholic Church combined all of them into the Bible you see today. They also removed some they thought to be forgeries/fakes.
At the time of the Reformation, Protestants decided that, because the additional books weren't in the Hebrew Bible, they shouldn't be in the Christian Bible, either (though they were included in early editions of the King James Bible). Catholics, at the Council of Trent (1546), decided to keep the "deutero-canonical" books.
Understand?

I'm sorry, I dont quite get it, what did they remove that was thought to be forgeries?

I would.also like to remind, that is not the topic I suggested, maybe u would like to start a new topic titled "who is your God and why?"

Apatheist:
I'm curious.
Why do you believe in Allah but not the other 50 million gods of the other religions?

If u happen to have faith, maybe u would like to ask urself the same question.

kevoh:
Proofs that have meaning and can be felt, experienced, touched e.t.c That an Arab or Arabs wrote the quran I can agree with you on that afterall the quran was first written in Arabic (Physical proof). Now show me how it was from god!

Likewise I would.like to ask you if u have happen to have any knowledge of the bible, how can one do that? Feel experienced and touch it, show that it was from God?

kevoh:
Proofs that have meaning and can be felt, experienced, touched e.t.c That an Arab or Arabs wrote the quran I can agree with you on that afterall the quran was first written in Arabic (Physical proof). Now show me how it was from god!

The Qur'an itself is a physical evidence, it is written in Arabic itself, if there is a translation, it will be written underneath each verse.

A physical proof of the Quran itself is the large number of manuscripts found , dating back to the early times of Islam. I do not have with me, to give to u to touch and feel.

kevoh:
Sir, I said give me physical proofs not blanket statements. It is the same thing as me claming Spiderman comics is from ''god" written by Marvel comics.

What do u mean by physical proof?

Apatheist:
OP, which god-- there are over 50 million gods?
And why do you believe in the Qur'an but not the bible, or Buddhist Sutras?

Since I have told u I believe in the Quran, then it's the one and only God . Which most Muslims will refer asAllah, which is the Arabic term for God.

Apatheist:
There are different translations of the Qur'an (follow the link)

You still haven't told me the god you're talking about.

Please do not misunderstood me, when. I am saying versions does not means translation. Even bible have different translation, originally was Hebrew,Aramaic and Greek. I accept that, we need these translations to understand what is written. Same goes to Quran we have Sahih international translation, yusuf ali and so on. Because we do not speak Aramaic, Greek, Hebrew or Arab.

Despite the translations, Quran is only one, we do not have different versions of Quran. But the bible have, many, with different numbers of books, and no Quran does not have different numbers of surahs .it all remains the same. If it is from God, how can there be different versions, did God decide that, oh for these group of people I shall not reveal this and that book from the bible, and these people I shall reveal all 80 books. And this group of my followers can only be reveals 66 books. But the Quran has only one version, and it has a total of 114 surahs unchanged.

kevoh:
Sir, How do you know quran is from a god/supreme being and not written by some arabs? What are the proofs?

It is from God, written by Arabs.

Apatheist:
OP, which god-- there are over 50 million gods?
And why do you believe in the Qur'an but not the bible, or Buddhist Sutras?

Because it has nvr been changed or altered and there is only one Quran. Compared to the bible.

Unlike the bible, it was a written revelation, which Christians believed the writers on the bible was inspired by the holy spirit. However, how can there be many versions of bible ? If it's from God, how can God gives different versions of the bible? How can two bible differs? How can there be 80 books in one bible, 73 in another bible and 66 in another bible? Anything that is. From God should not be altered, when it is altered, that is a fabrication, and a fabrication is not authentic.

It's is not written by God, the Quran is a verbal revelation given to Muhammad (pbuh).And was then written as the Quran. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was illiterate, but one of his amazing capabilities is to memorize. However, he needs to compile all the revelations given to him.


He employed for this task a number of his companions whose number totaled 29. Many of these were of the highest caliber in their faith and integrity. They included all the first five caliphs, Abu Bakr, Umar, Usman, Ali and Muawiah. However, the task of writing the revelations was most particularly associated with two of them, Muawiah and Zaid ibn Thabit, despite the fact that Muawiah was a latecomer to Islam. Paper, as we know, was not yet invented. Those scribes wrote the Qur'an on various forms of writing material which was available to them. These included sheets cut out of the branches of the beet tree or other writing sheets made of wood, animal hide, stone or bones.

This started even in the period when the Prophet and his companions were a small persecuted community in Makkah. Many of the companions of the Prophet had some parts of the Qur'an written down and treasured in their homes. The Qur'an is divided into 114 surahs, some of which are short, while others are very long. The revelation did not proceed with only one surah at a time, but the Prophet might have continued to receive parts of several surahs at the same time. When a passage was sent down to him, it was followed by an order from Allah, through the Angel Gabriel, indicating its position in the surah to which it belonged. These manuscripts did not form a single or coherent set.

The Prophet did not keep anything written down in his own home. But most of his companions who were with him in Makkah and Madinah memorized much of the Qur'an, and some of them were able to learn it all by heart. The Prophet used to teach his companions either individually or in groups. We note that Abdullah ibn Masood, a learned companion of the Prophet, was pleased to assert that he memorized more than 70 surahs as he learned them directly from the Prophet. In Ramadan every year, the Prophet used to revise the Qur'an with the Angel Gabriel to ensure that he did not overlook any verse or part of it. In the last year of the Prophet's blessed life, Gabriel recited the Qur'an to him twice.

For infection control,we are not suppose to wear anything below our elbow. Including rings. How are you supposed to do proper hand washing after every patient , when u wear al that stuffs on your hands. Unless nurses not practicing the proper infection control..

If u correct nursing, wristwatches are not advisable, even bracelets. It harbours germs.

Who wrote them? How do you know it's from God?

pesty100:
so you are saying God can give what he doesn't have

I can see you have nothing better to do.

Please discuss with open mind, no name callings, no other subject, strictly discuss just base on the subject alone. The aunthenticity of both holy bible and Quran.

I believe Quran is the word of God not bible.

God is perfect. However, man is not. Though God is perfect. God can create anything God wants to, including man.duh...

Please discuss with open mind, no name callings, no other subject, strictly discuss just base on the subject alone. The aunthenticity of both holy bible and Quran.

I believe Quran is the word of God not bible.