₦airaland Forum

Lostz:
every governor build one road or more.
I actually have close to 24hrs electricity in the community I am working now "in Delta"
you can only know if he invested in education when it start bearing fruit.

apart from the capital, the other part I visited were in decay

In roads, your governor didn't do up to Aregbesola.
Despite the little revenue.
Why did you think he went into debt?

About the electricity.
Every town/village/city in Osun are enjoying best electricity..

Every state has its own slum, even in delta, warri is next to Asaba and warri is nothing to write about not to talk about other towns/villages

Lostz:
you don't know what you are talking about.

apart from Rivers, there is no state that can be compared to Delta. Delta is even more balanced than River State or you think Rivers is just port Harcourt.

Edo is not a state. it is only better than bayelsa

I know rivers is not port Harcourt.
But yet till apart from Asaba, you guys don't have anything to show.
Even warri self is nothing to write about.

Just like Aba is to abia/umahia Same thing as Warri to delta / Asaba.

I still maintain it.
Rivers and Akwaibom is better off delta.

Lostz:
osun 2016 was my last visit and ogun 2018.


are you trying to tell me those state are now London in few years?

It was even when Aregbesola was the governor.
Tell us, he did roads or not?
Tell us, you enjoyed electricity or not
Tell us, he invest in education or not.

I await your answer

Lostz:
I spent months in osun, moving from the capital to other part.

all I see is a decaying state.

only ogun is a bit livable.

haven't been to Ekiti and the rest but I know they are not better off . there is more to a state than dressing the capital.

Okay, I heard you, what year was that?

Lostz:
no state can be compared to Delta in the Southsouth apart from River State.

a state is not about dressing the capital and leaving the rest to decay....... unless you never been to any of those state and you only read from the media

I've been to Akwaibom, port Harcourt, in SS, akwaibom has a good road networks and it's very beautiful.

Port Harcourt too is very beautiful, I can still remember Bonny island (or what's it called) very well.

Delta can't be compared to these two in SS, even Edo

Lostz:
I have been to 2 of those " ogun and osun.

ogun is the only one a little bit livable. osun nothing to write home about.

all those States have is the capital and nothing more. you should be comparing them to bayelsa not Delta.


no Yoruba state can be compare to Delta

You're funny sir.
Your delta state received more allocations than Osun and Ondo.

Yet these two states will beat delta hands down.

Apart from Asaba, what do you have in delta?
Warri??


Maybe you should re visit Osun.
Or probably you went to the village.

Benevento:
Bro that guy is a fool, abeg ignore him.

The statement he made caught my attention.

Only Akwaibom, Port Harcourt and Edo fit talk in the whole SS.

Others are nothing to write home about.

Lostz:
you should have mentioned that state

Remove Lagos.
Ekiti
Osun
Ondo
Ogun
Oyo.

Which of this states, can you stand?
Abi no be the same delta wey dey Nigeria

Lostz:
there is no Yoruba state that is better than Delta

I've been following you guys comments.

But, this area.
Don't even go there.

gidgiddy:
So its all about what Ironsi said, but not what he did? You cant state anything Ironsi actually did to abolish the Regions? I rest my case.

But it may interest you to know that military era is different from civilian era.

Anytime a decree / edit/ act is made, it has become a law..

I also rest my case.

gidgiddy:
What exactly did Ironsi start? Did Ironsi abolish the Regions or not? If you say he abolished the Regions then how come the 4 Regions were still in existence even to the day Ironsi died?

Gowon came in after Ironsi and within months, Gowon abolished the 4 Regions and replaced them with 12 states.

Dwelling on what Ironsi said, rather than what he actually did is the reasoning of kids. I dont care what Ironsi said, Im only interested in what he did and he did nothing wrong

I know you won't agree cos he's of your tribe.

Read this report carefully and tell me if there is nothing wrong with ironsi.

If you insist he didn't do anything wrong I don't think I can engage you further

Benevento:
The name of the town is Ajase-ipo.

It was built by Saraki's houseboy.

Thank you..

Benevento:
Oponun my state has one already built few years ago, I'm sorry we don't celebrate mediocre.

Google Kwara state vocational centre, Ajase ipo.

I repeat, we don't celebrate mediocre.

I told them, there Is something like that in. Kwara state.
I know it's along Ilorin road, but I don't know the town.

Thank you jare.

PericomaNwankwo:
Lol, you have seen everything before in Yoruba land!!! Chai, you can't even afford to hide your fear.

That's why you have goggle.
You can google it.
Kwara state vocational centre, Ajase ipo.

Or are you using freebasics

Dedetwo:
Sammy, enlightened Nigerians must have hands on their hips to save the county if it is not too late already. Nigerians want Nigeria to look like USA yet they talk about what is disadvantage or advantage to the regions hence a fight to rubbish.

Gbam!
Thread closed.

Dedetwo:
It became bigger than what an undiscerning onlooker thought because the Emirs, political elites from northern region, cronies and local authority were rendered out of service. In addition, the Emirs and northern political elites jumped into the normal conspiracy theory that it was designed by Ironsi to bring more educated easterners to take over civil service jobs in northern region. Yet the goons turned around and shouted One-Nigeria. I want nothing but unconditional disintegration of shithole called Nigeria.

Yes, I agree.
Because it was at the disadvantages of the North

Gidgiddy, dedetwo


Aguyi ironsi started it
Gowon finished it.

gidgiddy:
So in other words, you dont have anything practical that Ironsi abolished Regionalism and removed true federalism except that Ironsi said "All Nigerians want an end to Regionalism"


Well if you dont know it, know it now. Ironsi never abolished the Regions. In fact, all 4 Regions were existing and functioning even up to the day Ironsi was killed.

The person who abolished the Regions was Gowon. Gowon came in after Ironsi and enacted decree 14 of 1967 that abolished all 4 Regions and replaced them with 12 states. The decree is below

Bottom line Is
Aguyi ironsi started it
Gowon finished it.

If you don't accept it like that, then you have many questions to answer then.

You can check my previous comment above yours and pick a line of question to answer

Dedetwo:
Nigerians must stand in the way of falsehood. Please do not join Gowon's decrees 8 and 14 with decree 34. It will amount to mockery of Nigerian educational system. The dumbass Gowon claimed decrees 8 and 14 abolished certain aspect of decree 34. When asked to show the aspect of decree34 abolished by his decrees, Gowon drew blank. Decree 34 was mere unification of civil service structure in Nigeria. Gowon abolished regionalism in Nigeria with decree 8 which created states in place of regions and he appointed state administrators which Ukpabi Askia was one of them.

That mere unification you called it, it's more bigger than you thought.

Check this statement that was issued.

The Supreme Military Council met on 7 and 8 June 1966 and issued the following statement:

“The public must not be led to confuse the Military Government with government by a civilian regime under a constitution approved by the people. Nobody will expect the present Military Government to cease to function until new constitution has been approved or to be compelled to operate the old system of government with its obvious weakness. It cannot be too seriously emphasized that the Military Government while in office can only run the government as a military government under a unified command. It cannot afford to run five separate governments and separate services as if it were a civilian regime.

Final decisions on the territorial structure of the country and the public services will be matters for the Constituent Assembly and the referendum.

What do they mean by

1. 5 separate governments and separate services.

2. Military government while in office can only run the government as military. Remember the regions were operating on their own.

3. .......as if it were a civilian regime.
What does civilian regime means?
By abolishing the regions and making them come together?
By using resources of other regions?
By making the centre powerful?

Dedetwo:
If he had abolished regionalism, would it not amount to foolhardy on part of Ironsi to appoint regional governors?

Get it right, He didn't abolished it finished

It was gowon that created two more decree 8, 14 in addition to 34 which completely abolished regionalism.

Aguyi ironsi started it..

Maybe you should read more


Lt-Col Ejoor was reported as saying that the ’National Government’ set up by the army was the prelude to ‘the reintroduction of a unitary form of government’ and insisted that it would create future problems. Shortly afterwards, the Supreme Military Council announced that a senior government official, Mr. Nwokedi, had been asked to consider and to report to the Supreme Military Council on the establishment of ‘an administrative machinery for a united Nigeria’ and the ‘unification of the Public Services and Judicial Services.’

Dedetwo:
For the sake of argument, if you are smart as you would want us to believe, please explain how unification is unitary. The unification decree brought the civil service under one umbrella where level 14 in Enugu is the same thing as level 14 in Kano thereby sidelined the Emirs, their cronies and local authority in northern region of Nigeria. The same civil service structure created by decree 34 is being used in Nigeria today. Nigeria is simply a joke and earlier the shithole is disintegrated the better for all.

For the sake of argument, what does he meant by this.


In a speech to the nation on January 28 1966, he denounced the evils of the Abubakar Tafawa Balewa regime and outlined necessary reforms. ”All Nigerians”, he declared,” want an end to REGIONALISM.



On February 21 1966, General Aguiyi-Ironsi again addressed the nation on the issue. He said: “On the question of the political future of the country, the experiences and mistakes of the previous governments in the Federation have clearly indicated that far-reaching constitutional reforms are badly needed for peaceful and orderly progress towards the realization of our objectives. I have already touched on some of the major issues involved in recent broadcast to the nation. It has become apparent to all Nigerians that rigid adherence to ‘REGIONALISM’, was the bane of the last regime and one of the main factors which contributed to its downfall.



1. Who and who sat down with him to discuss the end of regionalism

2. Why is it that other leaders rejected it and only Ojokwu accepted it, except Fajuyi that didn't talk.

3. Why is it that there was crisis later after he made the speech in February

Frankdaz9:
This is not his office, Osibanjo granted interview from the cubicle where he was held hostage hence why the room was so dark. Oh my goodness! why will Vice president and prof Osibanjo be maltreated this way.

You claim to be Yoruba Christian.

Why running away from my question

Dedetwo:
Please show me where such crap is written in Nigerian constitution or military code of conduct of either 1960 or 1963. This type of behavior, the regurgitation of nonsense planted by tribally engrossed section of Nigerian society, keeps Nigeria hopelessly behind the curve of progress in world. Decree34 has nothing to do with regional structure of Nigeria. The decree sought to unify civil service in Nigeria which is ironically used in Nigeria till date. If decree 34 abrogated federalism and regionalism, why did Ironsi appoint regional governors? Most of the times, Nigerians tend to display stark idiocy which is regrettable.

In a speech to the nation on January 28 1966, he denounced the evils of the Abubakar Tafawa Balewa regime and outlined necessary reforms. ”All Nigerians”, he declared,” want an end to regionalism.


On February 21 1966, General Aguiyi-Ironsi again addressed the nation on the issue. He said: “On the question of the political future of the country, the experiences and mistakes of the previous governments in the Federation have clearly indicated that far-reaching constitutional reforms are badly needed for peaceful and orderly progress towards the realization of our objectives. I have already touched on some of the major issues involved in recent broadcast to the nation. It has become apparent to all Nigerians that rigid adherence to ‘regionalism’, was the bane of the last regime and one of the main factors which contributed to its downfall. No doubt, the country would welcome a clean break with the deficiencies of the system of government to which the country has been subjected in the recent past. A solution suitable to our national needs must be found. The existing boundaries of governmental control will need to be re-adjusted to make for less cumbersome administration.’

As a follow-up on May 25, General Aguiyi-Ironsi promulgated the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)(No. 5) Decree 1966. Decree No. 34 (the ‘Unification Decree’).

Frankdaz9:
There is confusion in aso rock, after weeks of unrelenting campaign about whereabouts of Vice president Yemi Osibanjo, the Fulani cabal have finally decided to make him public to avoid further raising of eyebrows. This same cabals have decided to place him in a dark room, restricting his movement. Good people of Yoruba Christians, let's join hands to liberate Prof. Yemi Osibanjo from the shambles of northern Fulani cabal.

You're a Yoruba right?
Should I ask you a question in Yoruba which you must answer..

BTW, seems you never use zoom b4

joeyfire:
I still didn't see where Regionalism was abolished by Ironsi in this your copy and paste. Or you don't even understand what you posted

gidgiddy:
Can you show anywhere in this write up that decree 34 abolished Regionalism?

How will you see it when you're blinded by hate.

Go and Google it, who abolished regionalism in Nigeria.
It WILL and ALWAYS bring irosin


In a speech to the nation on January 28 1966, he denounced the evils of the Abubakar Tafawa Balewa regime and outlined necessary reforms. ”All Nigerians”, he declared,” want an end to regionalism.


in a speech to the nation on January 28 1966, he denounced the evils of the Abubakar Tafawa Balewa regime and outlined necessary reforms. ”All Nigerians”, he declared,” want an end to regionalism

You don't know the Road to Abuja??

joeyfire:
Did his speech say that he had abolished regions? Please help and paste the part you are referring to

Read and re read, then comprehend what is being said here..


In a speech to the nation on January 28 1966, he denounced the evils of the Abubakar Tafawa Balewa regime and outlined necessary reforms. ”All Nigerians”, he declared,” want an end to regionalism.


in a speech to the nation on January 28 1966, he denounced the evils of the Abubakar Tafawa Balewa regime and outlined necessary reforms. ”All Nigerians”, he declared,” want an end to regionalism.

joeyfire:
This copy and paste doesn't prove anything. Ironsi unified the civil service but there were regional governors (Katsina, Ejoor, Ojukwu, Fajuyi) who could make laws subject to the approval of the Federal Military Council

It seems you can't read Or comprehend

Didn't you read Ironsi speech??
I even bold it.

OFFICIAL336:
Simple question, is Osun governor better than Abia State governor?


Leave long grammar and answer the question.

Yessssss

Not in Lagos.

If every state obeys them, trust Lagosians

Surulere, Lagos.


Ramadan intervention??

SLAP44:
It's actually Jonathan's gentleman behaviour that put us in this problem, if only he was more firm as a leader, people couldn't have rushed him.

Or maybe he doesn't know the type of power he has a President