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[quote author=Atheist:-D]I agree. Without digressing,[/quote]
Hahaha, you want to eat your cake and have it at the same time. (nothing wrong here)
[quote author=Atheist:-D]there are circumstances that can lead to people changing their perception of things. This might lead to their interpretation and actions to be different from what it would have been if they had prhaps a different outlook or more information. So I would say it is not necessarily different but it would sway their thinking differently. So maybe it hasnt changed but something in them has.[/quote]
Sorry but I lost myself in this part...
We went too far from the original topic of the thread....

[quote author=Atheist:-D]Ok. Used? How can a woman be "used" in such an act. Did she not enjoy it? It is a God given duty to enjoy intimacy. If she didnt enjoy it then she needs to address that. If she enjoy it then it is a "all win" situation. Both win [/quote]
Hahaha, I concede that I didn't take in account the 'enjoyment' part.

[quote author=Atheist:-D]Sluts and easy girls are still better than pros. A LovePeddler is a pro.[/quote]
Do you believe that. It's your opinion, I respect it.
I have more respect for professional than for non-professional... (Maybe I'm twisted ? )
[quote author=Atheist:-D]Also, who mentioned many partners. have one partner and enjoy intimacy with them. Why does it have to be many?[/quote]
Most of the men who enjoy intimacy for women doesn't marry them after...
Some men promise marriage but doesn't back up their chat after the act...

[quote author=Atheist:-D]A girl sleeps with 100 men once each and another girl sleeps with 1 dude 100 times... which is considered cheap and easy? Also, who is most likely to enjoy themselves (that last question might be subjective).[/quote]
I can't answer for the 'enjoyment' part, but I do share you opinion on the last part.

[quote author=Atheist:-D]Because objectivity changes with changing circumstance.[/quote]
I can't really answer because I don't understand your point here.
To me, objectivity is always the same in any given situations...
There are not many ways to be objective, if not it is not called 'objectivity' anymore...

[quote author=Atheist:-D]Take it easy babes. I didnt say that
Women can earn more than men. Women can earn nothing. Earnings is subjective to the man they want. The kitty kat should be free or they are pros. Women should try to target men with more in mind than financial benefits. Women would be advised to try and make something of themselves, career, education, general development. Also, there are character traits that can aid. Also, love plays a role
But the woman decides because, they are the ones who choose their man. So they should decide what they want.[/quote]
Hum, but when the kitty-cat is given for free how do you not want us to feel 'used'.
Pros at least have an earning, if they don't charge men, they'll fall in the category of
's/l/u/t/s' ; 'easy girl' ; 'w/h/o/r/e/s' and all these names that society likes to give them.
Trust me, pros are more respected than these ones...
I believe that it's the men who chooses the women, as they does the chasing, the courtship and it's men that set the pace in a relationship... women are more passive (I think).
You're a real advocate for love it seems

[quote author=Atheist:-D]But you dont. Are you sure you are not in love but dont just know it?
Willpower and objectivity can be fuelled by love to really push when things look bleak. I have been tested and seen the true benefits of love. I have also seen the downsides too [/quote]
Of course I'm in love, but with myself.
Willpower OK, but do you really believe that objectivity can be fueled by something as subjective than love ?
Hard to imagine...
I'm glad to know that love has things work out for you.

[quote author=Atheist:-D]Precisely. Women can work through it. Not all but a lot can. It is the wealth factor in the country creating problems for both.[/quote]
So the solution is that women should work hard but not too much in order to not scare away men,
she must give the kitty-cat for free,
then wait to get married to earn big but not more than her man, to not hurt his ego... That's it ?
Poor women, we have it difficult in this world...

[quote author=-Mr Cork-]...can find someone i swant to..yea right!!...
.. Sweery ama lover not a fighter & I will help u ... r you light skin and hav u been to London? [/quote]
Thanks for the offer but I don't need your help.
'No' to each one of your question.
Take care.

[quote author=Atheist:-D]The bitter irony. I myself have indulged in such foolishness
But a traditional woman is not my preference. I know a lot of guys want that. And also, why must a woman look at only 2 alternatives, either he is rich and loaded or she is rich and loaded. Why cant they both work together to get there?[/quote]
I also want both me and my man (when he comes) to work together, there is no ambiguity on this point.
I also don't know why most women put themselves in this situation...

[quote author=Atheist:-D]But surely love adds to all the other mentioned traits. Without love how do you fight through the difficulties?[/quote]
With willpower and an objective view on the matter.
But you can continue your ministry for love, many people need it.

[quote author=Atheist:-D]We didnt create the problem. How did men create the problem? It was women who wanted the good things in life and didnt want to work hard for it. Men always want nookie, why do they get it by barter now when it was not always so?
Oh yeah. And maybe poverty has escalated it.[/quote]
When women works hard to get things, you guys are insecure and don't want to marry them.
Then open threads like: 'The consequences of Women leaving the kitchen'
Here is the adress: https://www.nairaland.com/1301657/consequences-women-leaving-kitchen
Let's not turn this into a man vs. woman threads, it's pointless.
'Peace be with you.'

[quote author=-Mr Cork-]...Sweery calm dow...how do u expect to find a man wit this kinda attitude... U nid Anger management classes! [/quote]
I'm not (yet) angry.
I know that you guys can't manage my dark side, that wasn't even a preview...
I'm not looking for a man but I believe that I could find one when I want to...

[quote author=Atheist:-D]Remedy? Men? I doubt it. Unless they stop wanting nookie then maybe [/quote]
Hahaha, you should have faith in mankind.
Men can't create problem and expect women to solve them...

[quote author=Atheist:-D]yes you are. gay people are diverse. just like normal people. Most people thought lesbians wer all butch but we are seeing loads of hot, feminine lesbians too.
And as for looks, why not maintain it?[/quote]
If you say so, it must be true.
Looks are more something valued in women (or so I though all my life...).
A girl has to be pretty.
Society's expectations for men are different than just 'being handsome' (or so I though...)
Time has changed... Sad

[quote author=-Mr Cork-]...sweet hat..calm dwn..my name is not *this parson*...the name is Mr Cork..a.k.a Corky Joe, a.k.a London Peckam yuppy, a.k.a God,s gift ... Sweeeery am only tryin to help u (no oofencie) [/quote]
Trust me, you guys wouldn't like seeing my 'dark' side, you'd regret it...
Let's end this matter here.

[quote author=Atheist:-D]It is all the mens fault
Men are only part of the problem. But let us not argue on the topic.[/quote]
I didn't mean to put all the blame on men.
But if they are ruling the world, they are also the sources of the problems in the system... (and the remedy too).
Hum ok, peace.

[quote author=Atheist:-D]I carry a mirror too and a soap case with lots of exfoliating creams. I need to look good and sharp in todays high flying world. And youth ful too [/quote]
That's too much for me, why would a man be walking around with ex-foliating creams...

[quote author=Atheist:-D]And how do you know they are gay? Do they eye up men or hit on other guys?[/quote]
They are wannabes, for me it's gays that are obsessed with their looks, not the average men...
I guess I'm too old fashioned for this new era which pushes men to act like women...

[quote author=Alyricist★Laura] Royal always spits tha Real.... [/quote]

[quote author=Atheist:-D]A tip for you babes, any lady who takes care of herself can never be matched by a metrosexual man in terms of time in the bathroom [/quote]
That's a stereotype, I take care of myself and don't spend much time in the bathroom.
You're saying because you have never met a real metro, they are so obsessed with their looks that it's disturbing...
I have a friend who's man walks with a mirror in his pocket for him to check his face through the day.
he even waxes his brows! that's a sacrilege for me...
[quote author=Atheist:-D]Gayness or homosexuality has nothing to do with looks. There are some very macho gay men who look more macho than an average thug. Yet they are gay. It is se.xual preference rather than character.[/quote]
Sure, but I can't walk with a wannabe Gay by my side... Sorry for them...

[quote author=Atheist:-D]I am in the West. The UK to be precise... London.
Are our Nig girls doing any better? Go on facebook, 2go and whatsapp and see what they all get up to. They just only do it where there is some sort of financial reward. And There are loads of Nig guys who like free se.x. It can only add more spice to a relationship. Virgin issue aside of course (which is all hypocrisy anyway because they still cheat on the virgins with experienced women)
Why not? I did. And they all got along well. Though I regret it now
Even though a girl cannot tell her father it doesnt stop most of them from doing it anyway. They all have se.x they just dont do it for free. The only innocent parties are the virgins. but a virgin is a virgin right. They arent sleeping with anyone.
The point above is agreeable. Most women in financial difficulty are sort of strong armed into doing things they might not be proud of. We all understand that. No one can blame them. I just feel it is right to call a spade a spade.
So what about these 2 scenarios:
1. A girl sleeps with 50 men, each pay her amounts of money, support her financially through school and get her a job, she is now a career high flier.
2. A girl works hard to put herself through school and gets a job through determined hard work. She has lots of fun partying and sleeps with 50 men for pleasure and gratification.
Out of the two, which is the lesser evil? Gratification or necessity? [/quote]
We're just putting back the blame on each gender, it's a vicious circle...
I believe that if there must be a change, it must come from the men.
Because it's men who makes the world go round (sad to say...)
I don't find anything wrong with your two scenarios:
'The end justifies the means' as they say.
AS long as they consider s/e/x as something extremely valued that they should not have for free,
women will continue charging them in/directly.
Good morning to you too.

[quote author=-Mr Cork-]..she wants me! [/quote]
Neither.
(I must stop being kind on this forum people are misunderstanding me.)

[quote author=Atheist:-D]Why, why, why, WHY? You were so on point until the bolded? Why no metrosexuals? They can be more manly than the most aggressive, scarred men.[/quote]
I don't want a man who spends as much time as me (or even more) in the bathroom...
I put metro in the same basket than G/a/y/s (I don't have nothing against them).
They are between the 2 genders (men and women), I just can't bear it:
either you're a real man, either your effeminate (so gay).
I'm not looking for an aggressive man neither...
I am kind of tall 168cm (don't what it gives in feet and inches...) and I don't want a man shorter than me.
And you definitely has to be charismatic, it is not so difficult...

[quote author=Atheist:-D]No they dont. Nigerian men want a traditional woman. How many modern Nigerian women would want to be traditional housewives? I can count the number on 1 hand
The only thing we want from the West are women who believe in free se.x and arent frigid with the se.x for goodies philosophy. Se.x is not a currency or a barter method and western women dont believe in stuff like that.[/quote][b]
I suppose that you're in the West to say these kind of things.
Why would Nigerian women believe in free s/e/x if Nigerian men don't.
Each time a man has the kitty-cat for free, he brags to his friends and even come on this website to do so,
he presents it as something that is valued and that his malice took advantage of for free.
I've seen it numerous times.
Women in the West don't have the same traditional values as the local women when it comes to s/e/x.
Nigeria is still closed up on this matter compared to them.
Can you bring your girlfriends (not wife) at home (to your parents) to sleep overnight ?
Can a girl tell her father that she has a boyfriend that she don't intend to marry and that she is s/e/xually active ?
Also the economic situation in Naija is not the same than in the West, people (and women yes) are more concerned about making money or getting 'things' than considering s/e/x as some philosophical part of life.
I can't blame women for not giving up the cat for free.
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