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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 4:25pm On Dec 04, 2022
basilico:
The Ivy league class is actually clueless. The parents funnel donations and in return their kids get admission.
Africans that I know who went to Harvard etc are smart guys They go rigolous admission process... Unlike these dumb asses who use their last name.
I am suprised this is coming from you. On a normal day, you would have said they got in through diversity, inclusion and affirmative programs. You know, the regular far-right talk.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2:
feedthenation:

---100% correct---one key ingredient is a very strong network---
Doctors, Pharmacists, Engineers, e.t.c need to be college educated except we are comfortable with quacks building your bridges, aeroplanes, mines or you prefer quacks treating you for illnesses.

With some professions, you could get away with it, but not for most STEM professions. Maher did stylishly mention that in the video though using the example of China but he quickly deviated back to the righty talking point to keep his target audience engaged.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2:
IjeBos:
I think you're missing the point of the Presidential Bully Pulpit. Whatever the President says has incredible power. That's why most US President's stick to a written script or are very careful with there chosen words. He should not have been on a podium jawboning about something he knew nothing about. A lot of people took his words as a SUGGETION of something they should try. And some people did try it.
You give MAGAts too much credit. The same people INGESTING poison were the same people swallowing horse dewormers. They are the same people that keep sending their widow's mite to the "dear leader" to stop the steal. The same ones that want Affordable Care Act but don't want Obama care. We can go on and on. A lot of them are uneducated and simple minded.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 12:55am On Dec 04, 2022
CoolUsername:
I thought you said the FBI didn't instruct them.
The only time I have mentioned FBI on this topic below:

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 10:34pm On Dec 03, 2022
CoolUsername:
Why should the time of election bother a fxcking social media company?
Direct your question to the FBI.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 8:55pm On Dec 03, 2022
CoolUsername:
That's their official position on the matter. Or are you saying that US Intel briefed the NYT before briefing Trump?
What I am saying is that the report was not from some goofy looking laptop repair shop owner.

US Intel vs laptop repair man, and given when the news broke. Around 3 weeks to election.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 8:54pm On Dec 03, 2022
basilico:
I repeat . Trump told nobody to drink bleach. He made a request to Dr Fauci to come up with a bleach formula to wipe out covid, inject it whatever Get rid of covid.
His MAGAt thought otherwise. Too bad.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 8:52pm On Dec 03, 2022
CoolUsername:
According to NBC news:

The Biden administration made clear Thursday that the CIA has only "low to moderate confidence" in its intel on alleged Russian bounties for U.S. troops.
A year or almost a year later bah

You sef said Intel

Thanks for proving my point.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 8:48pm On Dec 03, 2022
I am going out for lunch.

At the time Fox news reported the increase in poison control calls, they were still on Trump's side so you won't say it's leftist propaganda.

Ps:

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 8:44pm On Dec 03, 2022
CoolUsername:
You still haven't shown where he told people drink bleach.

How is him clarifying his statement after a follow up from a reporter damage control? It was during the same briefing. There was literally no damage to control.

Basic research.
You posted the below:

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside OR almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 8:41pm On Dec 03, 2022
CoolUsername:
You're really bending over backwards to justify unelected officials stifling freedom of press.

Why should the time of the news matter to a fxcking social network?
So it is the government that should stiffle freedom of press right? For your information, I don't support both
I.e. private citizen or The US gov under Trump.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 8:38pm On Dec 03, 2022
basilico:
He never He asked Dr Fauci and Birx whether they would come up with a disinfectant that would clear the virus that Fauci financed. It was evident that bleach would clear the virus from door knobs etc,
Media ran away with the claim that consumes you
Are bleaching company the media too?

Even The Georgia Department of Public Healthunder a Republican administration sent out an alert warning against consuming chlorine dioxide, a bleaching product.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 8:37pm On Dec 03, 2022
CoolUsername:
It came from an anonymous source.
US intelligence's official position is that the rumors were unverified.
The Trump adminstration did not deny the intelligence. What they said was Trump wasn't breifed on the intelligence report about the bounty program.

In a statement late Saturday Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe said he had “confirmed that neither the President nor the Vice President were ever briefed on any intelligence” related to a Russian bounty, and that all news reports “about an alleged briefing are inaccurate.”
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 8:35pm On Dec 03, 2022
CoolUsername:
There was a woman who claimed that her husband had done that but it was later found that she poisoned him.

These were Trump's statements:

"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"

He continued.

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

Later, Trump clarified his comments after a reporter asked Bryan whether disinfectants could actually be injected into COVID-19 patients.

"It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object."


Basic research
There were lots of calls to poison centers and not just ONE woman.

Cleaning agent companies were releasing warnings to advise people against ingesting bleach too.

Him clarifying his statement was damage control.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 8:24pm On Dec 03, 2022
CoolUsername:
Source of the NYT was anonymous. The NYT reported that US intelligence came to that conclusion without naming anyone. However, it was never concluded.

At least we know the laptop story came from Bannon and Giuliani and the Post did some basic due diligence and got a statement from the owner of the shop where the laptop was abandoned.
It came from US intelligence. Never in dispute from when the news broke out.

The laptop story - From a repair shop via Giuliani.

The time difference too is substantial. Months to elections vs about 3 weeks to election.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 8:23pm On Dec 03, 2022
CoolUsername:
The article has a list of timestamps were Google staff showed their bias and desire to do everything within their power to control the narrative.

Check wikipedia, Fox News, Sky News AU, Breitbart, etc are all explicitly described as right wing or conservative news outlets. In comparison, MSNBC is not.
Furthermore, they do not have a monopoly on the news, you can simply watch CNN, MSNBC, CBS news, etc. which most people do. It's not quite the same story with Google's search engine, Twitter, or Meta.




I stopped reading at the point where you said that Trump told people to drink bleach. It simply means you are either unwilling or incapable of doing even most basic amount of research before parroting left-wing talking points.
Did Trump Suggest Injecting Disinfectant Could Be COVID-19 Treatment? Correct attribution.

Some MAGAt interpreted it at just that and started injesting the substance.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2:
CoolUsername:
But the story of Russia putting bounties on US soldiers didn't?
It could be source and timing.

Source of NYP's Hunters laptop story was Trump's Attorney. Source of NYT's Bounty was US intelligence.

Russian Bounty news was published in June 2020. Hunter's story was published in October 2020, less than a month before election.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 6:18pm On Dec 03, 2022
CoolUsername:
Do you also think the FBI telling Facebook to remove the Hunter Biden story is a First Amendment issue or are you a shameless hypocrite?
Mark said the FBI did not warn Facebook about the Biden story in particular - only that Facebook thought it "fit that pattern".

Pattern of Russian miss-information.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 6:12pm On Dec 03, 2022
wirinet:
I am not understanding o. MAGAs are still looking for excuse on why they lost the elections. I can't believe they are still wailing two years into the Biden adminstration.
First it was dominion machines switching votes from Trump to Biden, then it was 2000 mules, then it was dead people voting. Now it's Twitter (a private tech (media company) suppressing Hunter Biden's laptop from hell. Can't wait for the outcome of the house hearings we will be entertained to for the next two years.

So what MAGAs are telling us is that every private media company must publish every story they they are given. Even Elon Musk's new Twitter cannot not delete or ban any user it does not like for whatever reason.

Meanwhile Oga Seun and his moderators will be banning people here up and down for no reason at all.
When someone else buys Nairaland, the new owner would have to publish emails nairalanders have been sending to Mods on who deserves to be banned or what post to hide. It would be interesting to read that of the politics section during the GEJ campaign era. The days of Beef (PDP) and Gbawe(APC) grin
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 5:34pm On Dec 03, 2022
Ibime:
No one cares about smear politics

Far-right keep flogging a dead horse that won't benefit them at the polls

The public see through "digging dirt" election strategies by now. 5 years of Trump have made this shyt of little impact. Campaign on your policies, not whose son sniffed crack and fúcked prostitutes.
They should keep flogging it. At this rate, Hunter would be on the ballot in 2024.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 5:26pm On Dec 03, 2022
Obrigardo:
I initially thought the suppression was when Biden was already President. But he was just a private citizen then.
I feel so ashamed for elon.
Remember that he bought a company valued for $13B for $44B. He needs everything he can get to keep discussions alive. Even Trump snubbed Musk when he (Elon) tried to get him back on the platform.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 4:29pm On Dec 03, 2022
basilico:
Twitter knew it was not hacked material. Twitter with other big tech killed the story
Maybe if the so called story had been leaked earlier, it would have been trashed out right before the election.

I also think the nude photos and drug use that came with the leaks caused a lot of damage to how the story was shared/distributed.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2:
CoolUsername:
Did New York Post publish dick pics? What about Kayleigh McEnany?
Twitter policies at that time prohibited “directly distribut(ing) content obtained through hacking that contains private information”. Twitter’s policy against posting hacked material was established in 2018, 2 years before the leak. Many posters account were locked as a result. Alot of SM companies weren't also sure if it was also Russian disinformation given the time the leaks were released. They erred on the side of caution. Plus she was given an opportunity to delete to restore access to her account but refused.

This is also information NOT NEW to us.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 3:27pm On Dec 03, 2022
James Wood said he is going to sue because the porn he posted was deleted grin

https://www.foxnews.com/media/james-woods-fires-back-twitter-vows-sue-censorship-tucker-carlson-tonight

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 3:17pm On Dec 03, 2022
It's unbelievable that some People are angry because twitter posts with dick pics were deleted, and the accounts posting such were banned accordingly. e.g. Jared87983561

And Elon Musk accidentally revealed that the Trump White House was using Twitter to censor his critics in violation of the First Amendment. You can't make this stuff up. grin

Christianity EtcRe: Japa: Rev Esther Ajayi Advises Nigerian Couples Against Relocating Abroad by saxywale2: 2:07pm On Dec 03, 2022
CoronaVirusRelo:
If your wife is not giving you peace in Nigeria, don’t think of family japa!

You will live to regret your decisions, cos she will frustrate your soul the more and the government will 90% of time be on her side.

But for those of you with loving wives and sellable skill, your bounds are limitless outside Nigeria.
99%
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 2:05pm On Dec 03, 2022
Obrigardo:
Ahh but Elno Wusk is a massive disgrace shaaa.
Methinks gym jordan, pedogaetz, kkkmcarthy, mtg space lasers will be so dissapointed with the reveal.

Team Biden did nothing wrong at all, na da.

But kanye is still an anti-semite, Criminal trump is still a loser and elno wusk, the apartheid baby, does not understand the American constitution.
More.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 1:57pm On Dec 03, 2022
Obrigardo:
This is exactly what the massive reveal was just about. grin

basilico, let me save you from traficking in conspiracies. We are bigger than that here.
Both parties and one held the Presidency.

Tim Young below in a seperate tweet also forgot that it was a Trump presidency.

Like I mentioned earlier, nothing has been released that we weren't aware of already.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 1:51pm On Dec 03, 2022
Obrigardo:
Yeah, right, tell me another thing.

All this fake rage you maga cultists are on is just pure trash. Need an example?
Just check out this ignorant tweet below (the fool rushed to delete it after he learned who was president when this happened), doesn't it make you laugh?
LMAO

There are more.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2:
CoolUsername:
So you new that social media companies were conspiring to influence the elections, huh?

Now the conspiracy theories have turned out to be true, the new response is to say that all of it was already known.
Nothing has changed from what we already knew. The only incredible thing that's happened is the fact that we are now reading it all on real time.. on Twitter and not on Gab or Parler LOL

Maybe the part two will be more interesting.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 5:12am On Dec 03, 2022
adamusuleiman11:
LONG POST ALERT.
Summary of Musk Twitter Release:


For days, Twitter owner Elon Musk had teased a massive bombshell disclosure based on internal company documents that he claimed would reveal "what really happened" inside Twitter when it decided to temporarily suppress a 2020 New York Post story about Hunter Biden and his laptop.

But on Friday, instead of releasing a trove of documents to the public, Musk's big reveal pointed to a series of tweets by the journalist Matt Taibbi, who had been provided with emails that largely corroborated what was already known about the incident.

Attracting thousands of retweets, Taibbi's winding tweet thread reaffirmed how, in the initial hours after the Post story went live, TWITTER EMPLOYEES GRAPPLED WITH FEARS that it could have been the result of a RUSSIAN HACKING OPERATION.

It showed employees on Twitter's legal, policy and communications teams debating -- and at times disagreeing -- over whether to restrict the article under the company's hacked materials policy, weeks before the 2020 election, where Joe Biden, Hunter Biden's father, ran against then-President Donald Trump.

While some questioned the basis for the decision and warned that Twitter would be inviting allegations of anti-conservative bias, others within the company, including senior officials, said the circumstances surrounding the Post story were unclear and recommended caution, according to screenshots of internal communications shared by Taibbi.

(Then-CEO Jack Dorsey -- whom Taibbi said was not involved in the decision -- has told US lawmakers that in hindsight, suppressing the story was a MISTAKE.)

The emails Taibbi obtained are CONSISTENT with what former Twitter site integrity head Yoel Roth told journalist Kara Swisher in an onstage interview EARLIER THIS WEEK. During that interview, Roth said he felt at the time that the Post reporting bore the hallmarks of a Russian hack-and-leak operation, an assessment that was shared at the time by dozens of former US intelligence officials.

Taibbi said the material he reviewed referenced general FBI warnings about potential attempted Russian interference in the elections, which also dovetails with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg's public account of Facebook's handling of the New York Post story and affirms how Twitter was on high alert for possible foreign meddling.

In the wake of the article's suppression, Taibbi said one Democratic congressman, California Rep. Ro Khanna, wrote to Twitter's chief legal officer suggesting it was a bad look and a departure from First Amendment ideals to suppress a news report containing details that affect a presidential candidate. Khanna noted in the email he was saying this even though he was a "total Biden partisan."

The tweet thread also highlighted how officials from both political parties routinely wrote to Twitter asking for specific tweets to be removed. Taibbi included a screenshot of an email from the "Biden team" asking to delete tweets. A review of those tweets on an archive site showed some purported photos of Hunter Biden, including nudity, that may have violated Twitter policy.

Taibbi said the contact from political parties happened more frequently from Democrats, but provided no internal documents to back up his assertion. He also did not say that Democrats requested that Twitter suppress the Post story, and his account did not suggest that the US government had ever pressured Twitter to suppress the story.
Exactly.....
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by saxywale2: 5:11am On Dec 03, 2022
CoolUsername:
The milkiest of milquetoast platitudes when Twitter just got caught with their trousers down.

There's a difference between Twitter just being left-leaning and Twitter literally soaring suppressing negative news presidential candidate, banning news outlets, and banning the fxcking press secretary of sitting President.

Now you're calling Twitter right-leaning for reinstating banned accounts who just so happened to be disproportionately right-leaning because the ban hammer was used disproportionately on right-leaning Sony's in the first place.
My Bottom line is that nothing was exposed in those tweets that wasn't known before.

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