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PoliticsRe: "They Don't Want Me On The Ballot" – The Politics Of Perpetual Victimhood. by Scrap: 2:42pm On Jul 01
CharlesCNG:
This is a well-polished attempt to move the goalpost.

Nobody said Nigerians should not criticise APC. Criticise APC on inflation, naira, insecurity, unemployment, hardship, governance failures and broken promises. Those are legitimate issues. But that is not the subject of this thread.

The issue is Peter Obi’s repeated habit of suggesting that unnamed forces are trying to stop him from being on the ballot without presenting clear evidence of the specific plot, actors, process and legal mechanism.

You mentioned selective law enforcement, intimidation, unequal access and rally disruptions. Fine. Bring the evidence case by case. Name the incident. Name the agency. Name the victim. Show the document. Show the court filing. Show the official denial or confirmation. That is how serious opposition works.

But you cannot throw a basket of general political grievances into the air and use it to validate one man’s vague claim that “they don’t want me on the ballot.”

That is not evidence. That is atmosphere.

On structure, you also missed the point. Nobody said structure alone wins elections. But no serious candidate can treat structure as an optional decoration. Ideas without structure are speeches. Popularity without structure is noise. Public trust without organisation is a rally crowd waiting to go home.

A man who wants to govern Nigeria must know how to build, keep and manage a stable political platform. If every party around him enters crisis, every legal challenge becomes persecution, and every setback becomes conspiracy, then citizens have the right to question his political management capacity.

You also claimed I suggest criticism of APC means idolising Obi. False. Many Nigerians criticise APC without turning Obi into a saint. The problem is not criticism of APC. The problem is the Obidient reflex that converts every criticism of Obi into “paid agent,” “data boy,” or “APC dog.”

Finally, on evidence, I agree completely: demand evidence from everyone. Demand it from government. Demand it from APC. Demand it from Tinubu. But also demand it from Obi and his supporters.

That is the entire point.

Accountability is not selective. If government must prove its claims of progress, then opposition must also prove its claims of persecution.

You cannot ask for evidence from power and accept vibes from opposition.

That is not intellectual honesty.

That is selective skepticism wearing a suit.
The irony is that you accuse others of moving the goalpost while quietly raising the burden of proof to an impossible standard.

Political interference does not always come with a signed memo titled, "How to stop Peter Obi from contesting." Democracies are undermined through patterns of conduct, selective enforcement, institutional pressure, and coordinated actions. Those are assessed by looking at the totality of events, not by waiting for a written confession.

You demand the names of actors, documents, court filings, and official confirmations. That sounds reasonable until you remember that governments rarely issue official documents admitting political interference. By that logic, many abuses of power throughout history could never have been questioned until years later.

You also portray Obi's concerns as "vibes," yet Nigerians have witnessed opposition rallies disrupted, party members harassed, candidates challenged through endless litigation, and state institutions accused of acting inconsistently. You may disagree with the interpretation, but pretending those concerns exist in a vacuum is selective.

On structure, you continue to treat organisation as though it exists independently of Nigeria's political environment. Building a nationwide political movement against entrenched parties with access to state resources is not comparable to organising within an established ruling party. Structure matters, but so does the environment in which that structure is built.

More importantly, accountability cuts both ways. If you demand forensic proof from every statement made by the opposition, then apply that exact standard to every claim made by the government. Where is the evidence that the economy is improving for ordinary Nigerians? Where is the evidence that insecurity has significantly declined? Where is the evidence that anti-corruption institutions operate without political influence? The same skepticism should apply across the board.

Nobody should be above scrutiny, including Peter Obi. But scrutiny should not become a one-way microscope focused only on the opposition while the government receives the benefit of every doubt.

That is not objectivity.

That is selective accountability.
PoliticsRe: "They Don't Want Me On The Ballot" – The Politics Of Perpetual Victimhood. by Scrap: 11:11am On Jul 01
CharlesCNG:
Thank you for proving my point better than I could have done.

The thread asked for evidence. Your response is: “you are paid,” “you have no job,” and “you must be stupid.” That is not a rebuttal; that is Obidient heritage in full display — insult first, logic later, evidence never.

This is why many people no longer take your movement seriously. Once you cannot answer the argument, you manufacture a paymaster. If someone criticises Obi, he is paid. If someone fact-checks Obi, he is sponsored. If someone asks for structure, he is APC. If someone refuses to kneel before your political idol, he must be collecting dollars.

Poverty of argument is not cured by abundance of insult.

If the post is wrong, show where. If Obi has evidence that anyone is trying to stop him from running, present it. If the point about weak structure is false, rebut it. But if all you have is “you are paid,” then you have already lost the debate.

And for your information, some people write because they can think. I know that may sound strange in a camp where abuse is often mistaken for intelligence.

So please, leave my imaginary salary and face the issue. Who is stopping Obi from running, and where is the evidence?
Interesting. You condemn insults, yet your entire write-up is built on sweeping stereotypes about Obidients instead of addressing the issues many Nigerians have consistently raised.

You ask for evidence about attempts to frustrate Peter Obi, but conveniently ignore the broader concerns about selective law enforcement, intimidation of opposition figures, unequal access to public spaces, politically motivated disruptions of rallies, and the uneven application of state institutions. Whether you agree with those concerns or not, dismissing them outright is not an argument.

On "structure," Nigerians have heard that talking point repeatedly. If structure alone won elections, many governors and presidents around the world would never have emerged. Political structures are built by people, and people are driven by ideas, credibility, and public trust. Every political party started with little or no structure at some point.

You also suggest that criticism of the APC automatically means idolising Peter Obi. That is a false choice. Many Nigerians criticise the APC because of rising inflation, a weak naira, unemployment, insecurity, and the hardship they experience daily. Those are real issues that affect millions, regardless of political affiliation.

Finally, asking for evidence is fair. But intellectual honesty requires applying the same standard to everyone. Demand evidence from the government for its promises, its economic projections, and its claims of progress with the same energy you demand evidence from the opposition.

Debate should be based on facts, consistency, and accountability, not selective skepticism or partisan narratives.
PoliticsRe: "They Don't Want Me On The Ballot" – The Politics Of Perpetual Victimhood. by Scrap: 11:35am On Jun 30
CharlesCNG:
This is the usual escape route when argument fails.

Instead of answering the issues raised, you have now moved to “they are paid,” “some are paid in dollars,” and “the poster is also well paid.”

This just the normal Obidient habit of inventing imaginary paymasters whenever someone refuses to join the choir?

This is exactly the poverty of debate I keep talking about. You people do not engage arguments; you assign motives. If someone asks for evidence, he is paid. If someone questions Obi, he is sponsored. If someone exposes weak strategy, he is working for APC. If someone refuses to treat Obi as a political saint, he must be collecting dollars.

The thread raised a simple point: if Peter Obi believes forces are trying to keep him off the ballot, let him present evidence and pursue the matter properly. Instead of addressing that, you have brought payment conspiracy.

Answer the argument, not the imaginary salary of the poster.
Mr. Charles, enlighten me more. Why did you ignore responding to my last message? Or those points doesn't worth responding to
PoliticsRe: "They Don't Want Me On The Ballot" – The Politics Of Perpetual Victimhood. by Scrap: 7:03pm On Jun 28
TopBanter:
Indeed. Should this even be a topic of discussion? We are talking about the Presidency of the biggest black nation on Earth.

Ideally, anyone who will get to that position must be a leader of means, talent and focused achiever who has built things and people. No Nigerian who is honest can deny that about Tinubu.

Yet we all know Obi was a below mediocre Governor who, till today and over a political career spanning 2 decades, has built nothing and no one.

Are we serious in Nigeria? How do Nigerians reason so crudely yet we rate ourselves so highly? Obi is no leader and anyone who knows the qualities leaders must have will understand that.
The problem with your argument is that it is built on conclusions rather than evidence.

You say that no honest Nigerian can deny Tinubu's leadership qualities, yet millions of honest Nigerians have serious concerns about the direction of the country. Leadership is not measured by political longevity, influence, or the number of loyalists one has cultivated. It is measured by outcomes: the state of the economy, security, institutions, business confidence, and the quality of life of ordinary citizens.

Likewise, dismissing Obi as "below mediocre" without an objective assessment of his record is opinion, not fact. Whether one supports him or not, his performance can be debated using verifiable records. The same standard should apply to every politician, including Tinubu.

More importantly, this discussion should not be about personalities. It should be about governance and results. Is Nigeria better today? Are Nigerians more secure? Is the economy stronger? Has the cost of living improved? These are the questions that define leadership.

Take the issue of government obligations to indigenous companies. Across the country, many contractors who executed Federal Government projects since 2024 are yet to receive payment for completed and certified works. These are not mere political talking points. They are real businesses employing real Nigerians.

The consequences are severe. Companies are struggling to pay salaries, service bank facilities, meet tax obligations, and retain staff. Loans that were taken in good faith to execute government projects are becoming increasingly difficult to manage. Some businesses are facing the risk of insolvency, while thousands of jobs hang in the balance.

This is how economic hardship spreads through a nation. When government delays payment to contractors, the effects cascade through the economy. Suppliers are not paid, workers lose income, banks face increased loan defaults, consumer spending drops, and economic activity slows. Anyone who understands how money circulates within an economy knows that government payment obligations are not just about contractors, they affect entire communities and industries.

Democracy is not about idolizing politicians. It is about holding leaders accountable for their decisions and the consequences of those decisions. Once we replace evidence with hero worship, we stop evaluating performance and start defending personalities.

So rather than asking whether Tinubu has followers, influence, or political achievements, the more important question is this: after years in power, are the policies and decisions of his administration producing the results Nigerians were promised? That is the standard by which every leader should be judged, regardless of party, region, or personal loyalty.
PoliticsRe: "They Don't Want Me On The Ballot" – The Politics Of Perpetual Victimhood. by Scrap: 4:33pm On Jun 28
shivisee:
This bullcrap you wrote up here just show that most of you know that tinubu is doing the right thing but just criticising him out of desperation of putting your tribes man as the president.
Your assumption is incorrect. I'm not Igbo, so reducing my views to tribal sentiment is misplaced.

My position is based on governance, not ethnicity. A government that repeatedly operates without timely budget implementation or relies extensively on extra budgetary spending cannot simply be described as one that knows exactly what it's is doing. There are numerous governance, economic, and institutional issues that deserve scrutiny, and I can discuss them one by one if you're interested.

Also, being in the corridor of power has given me insights into how many sensitive matters, including some court cases, unfold behind the scenes. So, my views are not driven by emotion or tribal loyalty but by what I have observed and the facts I have assessed.

Let's debate the issues on their merits, not on assumptions about tribe. Nigeria will benefit more from objective discussions than from ethnic profiling.
PoliticsRe: "They Don't Want Me On The Ballot" – The Politics Of Perpetual Victimhood. by Scrap: 1:06pm On Jun 28
This argument would have been persuasive if history had not exposed its glaring double standard.

The same Bola Ahmed Tinubu who is today presented as a defender of institutional integrity built much of his political identity by accusing the PDP government of weaponising state institutions against the opposition. During the Jonathan administration, APC leaders repeatedly alleged intimidation, selective use of security agencies, judicial interference, and attempts to weaken the opposition. Those concerns were never dismissed as "paranoia" or a "persecution complex." They were celebrated as courageous resistance to authoritarian tendencies.

Was Tinubu not one of the loudest voices warning Nigerians that democracy was under threat? Did APC leaders not repeatedly accuse the PDP of using the machinery of government to suppress opposition? Did they not claim that federal might was being deployed against political opponents? If raising those concerns then was democratic vigilance, why has it suddenly become "excuse-making" when an opposition figure voices similar concerns today?

The late President Umaru Yar'Adua famously declared, "The rule of law must be allowed to take precedence over the rule of power." That statement remains one of the finest democratic principles ever expressed by a Nigerian President. It reminds us that democracy is not sustained merely by conducting elections. It is sustained by public confidence that institutions are impartial and insulated from political influence.

Those asking, "Who are they?" should remember that political interference rarely comes with a signed letter. Democratic backsliding is often gradual. It begins with subtle pressure on institutions, selective prosecution, strategic litigation, intimidation, and the misuse of state power. Citizens are expected to question these developments before they mature into constitutional crises, not after.

Even President Tinubu himself once understood this reality. He endured years as an opposition leader, spoke repeatedly about the abuse of federal power, and insisted that democracy required eternal vigilance. He did not wait until the damage was complete before speaking out. That is exactly what responsible opposition leaders are expected to do.

Peter Obi has every constitutional right to express concern if he believes the political environment is being manipulated. Expressing concern does not amount to rejecting the courts. In fact, he has consistently pursued electoral grievances through lawful judicial processes rather than violence.

The real question is not why Peter Obi is speaking. The real question is why the standards have changed.

When APC raised alarm under the PDP, it was called defending democracy.

When Peter Obi raises alarm under the APC, it is suddenly called making excuses.

That is not principled analysis. That is partisan hypocrisy.

As the saying often attributed to Thomas Jefferson goes, "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance." Democracy is protected not by silence, but by citizens and leaders who are willing to question power, regardless of who occupies office.
PoliticsRe: When Last Did You See Fuel "Black Market" Sellers On The Road In Nigeria? by Scrap: 7:36am On Mar 28
They are in front of NNPC tower in Abuja. Almost everyday you will see them there selling their fuel
TravelRe: Civic Organisation Offers Free Legal Services To Female Passenger, Emmanson by Scrap: 9:56am On Aug 12, 2025
Ibom air staff are generally very rude and nonchalant. They treat their customers without any respect and rudely. When air peace started flying to Uyo. Ibom air had a bit of character change. I stopping using them a long time ago
PropertiesRe: REASONS TO INVEST AT IKORODU LAGOS. by Scrap: 8:25pm On Jan 19, 2025
I noticed how you ignored CELEBRITYSAND complain. You didn't care to respond to his message. If Parliament estate owners can behaved in such a deceitful manner. Is it the clients you guys won't treat the same way. I will advice you guys to settle that matter and get that guy to retract his statement
PropertiesRe: Installmental And Solar Installation Financing by Scrap: 9:36am On Jan 16, 2025
What is the cost for the 15kva?
RomanceRe: Please, I Have Beautiful Children Jeans And Shirts/polos. Where Can I Sale The by Scrap: 10:58am On Oct 04, 2024
Post the pictures of what you are selling, their prices and your phone number
PropertiesRe: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Scrap: 10:10pm On Sep 09, 2024
chingynas:
Good day fam,

Please I need a good opinion .. I’m getting a 100kva transformer for a project.. I need to know the price of it, the approval process and price of the cables and all .. I think this nepa people around me here want to rip me off o
Why not drop your email address for further communication on the transformer. Also, state if its 11kv or 33kv. Also, is it a residential building, factory or plaza. Also, your location would help to determine the disco
PoliticsRe: Salaries Of Doctors & Lawmakers In Nigeria Vs In US, UK, SA & Kenya (Video) by Scrap: 11:04am On Aug 24, 2024
Nigeria federal house of rep basic salary is about 700k monthly. I always wonder where you guys are getting this millions info from. Stop being emotional and get actual facts. Some members can't even afford to take care of themselves financially. Their consultants are always on their neck for financial supports. Some do regret running for the office
FamilyRe: Urgent Sales by Scrap: 10:04pm On Mar 23, 2024
The door is how many in number? Also, let's see the door pics
FamilyRe: House Clearance Sales, Abuja Only. by Scrap: 11:14pm On Jan 31, 2024
Viqtour:
2000 litres (500 gallons) Tank with accessories for sale
2 months used
Location : Kubwa
Price : 75k
You advertised without listing your number. I am interested in your tank
PropertiesRe: Hotel And Event Hall For Sale by Scrap: 8:48pm On Dec 07, 2023
How many rooms
AdvertsRe: We have Lpg gas tanks,and also Build/install Skids & Gas Plants. by Scrap: 11:31pm On Jun 04, 2023
How much to set up a 10mt gas plant l?
PoliticsRe: 2023 Nigerian Election Result According To Arewa Republic. by Scrap: 8:16pm On Feb 06, 2023
APC can't win FCT and Akwa Ibom. Rivers State is actually drifting to Labour but its still PDP state traditionally. Forget Wike and his rubbish. APC will gets Benue state due to the non performance of the Governor. Jigawa state is not voting APC
CrimeRe: Bank Manager Attacked By Kids Of Man Who Went Naked At Their Bank To Get N5k by Scrap: 9:20pm On Feb 05, 2023
tooth4tooth:
Mr when people discuss issues affecting them stop bringing all these crap to deceive the gullibles. The same Atiku that withdraw 500 million new naira note. The joke is on you.
What about Tinubu that withdrawn 1B new naira note? What do you to say about him.

Since you guys likes to make bogus claim
PoliticsRe: 2023:Atiku And APC Govt Are Brain Behind Fuel&Naira Scarcity, Says Tinubu by Scrap: 1:30pm On Feb 05, 2023
adekolaelect:
this Annalise represent that of who lack knowledge of what they call governance . Kids everywhere political party represent that of politics but governance represent that of individuals .
Buhari is the dame president. He is the leader of your party. He is the individual whose policy we know. PDP 16yrs misrule Nigeria. Is that right?
PoliticsRe: 2023:Atiku And APC Govt Are Brain Behind Fuel&Naira Scarcity, Says Tinubu by Scrap: 8:10am On Feb 05, 2023
adekolaelect:
Buhari is from apc but Tinubu separates Bad and good governance from political party by speaking out what his party men are doing but many of you from out side of the party now embrace Buhari and Emefele bad policy with the hope that it will hort your perceived Enemy " Tinubu" Oga there is different between political party and good governance . Stop deceiving yourselves. Wike is from pdp , Sanwolu is from Apc they didn't perform BCS of the party they come from but BCS of who they are individually. Tinubu against bad policy from Buhari and cbn but Atiku and children of 8 embrace it for their selfish interest it is not about the political party but who they are Individually. In Wikes' voice " POLITICAL PARTY IS JUST A Vehicle to every leaders .
Your explanation doesn't make sense at all. As at yesterday, Tinubu at a rally said "we would have asked asked Buhari to continue ". The Buhari you claimed introduced a bad policy. The same Tinubu that said he will continue Buhari legacy.

We liked to say that PDP 16 years of ruling destroyed Nigeria. Now, its not about party but individuals. Chai, why are we like this? Speaking from both mouth. Your party is in charge of everything in this country. If your party and Buhari felt some cabal are sabotaging their chances at the poll. Let them recall or suspend CBN governor. Appoint someone else, reverses all the policies by extending the deadline and printing more money.

Let your party fire NNPCL MD, release enough petrol to every state. Make sure that fuel price isn't more than govt directives. You guys still have time to do all that. Unless you guys are saying that Buhari is not in charge anymore. That your party and Buhari has lost control over the govt. That Buhari is weak and daft like Jonathan.

Or stop this blame game. Stop this cabal bullshit. Stop pointing fingers at PDP and its presidential candidate Atiku.
PoliticsRe: 2023:Atiku And APC Govt Are Brain Behind Fuel&Naira Scarcity, Says Tinubu by Scrap: 12:14am On Feb 05, 2023
adekolaelect:
shop up !!!! Are you not feeling the bad impact huh You don't allow your sense to work because of politics. Are you not among those that insulted Tinubu when he raised Alarm on bad policy tht only meant to hort a particular politician in the name of northern politics and many of you slowpoke celebrated it simply you thought it will fight your political enemy.
Is this policy not that of APC? Is PDP still in power? Which party is Atiku contesting under? Is CBN reporting to who? Who is heading the economy of this country?

Please answer the above questions. You guys need to stop beating a child and turn around to ask who is beating that child
PoliticsRe: Exposed: How Dino Melaye, Others Smuggled N50 Billion New Notes Out Of The CBN. by Scrap: 11:19pm On Feb 03, 2023
This country is full of ogogoro people with ogogoro news. APC govt introduced a new monetary policy. The same APC are turning around to blame PDP for their own policies. Abeg, dey swear for una?

If Dino could be able to moved 50B naira out of APC govt CBN. Then, citizens money is not safe at all. We are not safe at all under APC govt. Pls stop this mockery of your party. Na wa oooo. Wetin Musa no go see for gate
SportsRe: Senegal Would Destroy England Today by Scrap: 9:54pm On Dec 04, 2022
Op, what happened? I heard Senegal beat England so badly that the late Queen started crying inside the grave
PoliticsRe: PDP Rep Says He Earns N697k As Salary, Allows TV Station To Display Credit Alert by Scrap: 3:56pm On Jun 16, 2022
He is actually telling us the truth
BusinessRe: The Guy Who Blocked A Nairalander After Placing An Order (pics) by Scrap: 3:34pm On Feb 07, 2022
You intentionally ignoring this question.

what about the linoleum?

As she won't be able to easily sell it due to the cutting. What happens to the item
FamilyRe: Acute Bad Luck Is Making Me Suicidal by Scrap: 5:32pm On Jan 19, 2022
Where is your location?
Drop your number or better still, drop your email address
AutosRe: Super Clean 2010 Mercedes Benz E350 With Original Custom Duty by Scrap: 10:30am On Dec 04, 2021
Pls the pictures of the dashboard while the engine is on
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The link
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Never in your life buy a flooded car. Never Never

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