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Balogunodua:
Na fr south dem dey rip una o

For north reduction mst dey.

An average northerner doesn't really care about wellbeing....they just want to eat and sleep,,,marry n birth....


They don't want any wahala that comes with luxury lifestyle.....so they are satisfied with plain life unlike the southerners whose lifestyles hinged on competition...reason why yahooism is prevalent in the south....you would expect increasen of pay in your daily activities this side as a result

Balogunodua:
Yaradua is a figure he wasn't the one running the government, infact during his first year man was clueness.


How much is the total credit alert of Abacha loot again? That you think it enough to carter for our spending as a country.


The new government just got in power for Godsake...give them time.






Susbsidy has been removed since before the handover do I don't understand the... they enbark saga...
As for NLC and others, this time around subsidy won't be reinstated all they can do is join hands with this administration for what we all know will favour us in the long run.

Remove subsidy first day in office when?

Does subsidy goes beyond june?

Was there any budget for subsidy beyond?

You guyz are something else o.



Subsidy removal has been finalized before now...it is gone, we better adapt to it.

Let me react to just one of your post cos ot seems we are miles away from agreement.

Subsidy was stated to end in June but ended in May...wasn't that breach of agreement?don't give me no money excuse abeg.....


It doesn't make sense to begin a search for solution after removing something as sensitive as fuels subsidy wch happened to be the epicentre of our existence in this country.....

It still baffles me when you guys believes things thrown out by a Nigerian politicians after the enough shege we have seen.....

The most recent one that would have made everyone disdain and call out our politicians is the airline but because of our 2kb memory we are satisfied......

What happens if things are as it were then communications linger on with some obvious evidences to believe him b4 d June 30th

Emaprince:
My barber don already increase charges. Lol

And your income never increase...


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AdisaOwala:
Them go soon increase minimum wage

Na 9ja politicians mouth you want follow??
A politician way cut short d end date of subsidy without proper plan naim u want believe?Buhari no teach us lesson reach..


How much increment do you think can mitigate the effect of the aftermath of subsidy saga...do u know a 3k addition is an increment as well


What happens to private firms who still worry about light.....

patrickmuf:
Stretch it with which money? Did you not listen to Mele Kyari?

You want me to believe a Nigerian politician??


I saw someone trying to save face especially even when he said there was no money ......If BATs hasn't said anything abt subsidy at his inauguration,I bet d subsidy would have lingered on till June 30th despite his no payment yet statement....cos there was an agreement

OasisX:
....except the clip is longer than that, nothing of such.

Then he would definitely have been termed wicked n heartless for causing more pains........


Cos in all honesty,it is unrealistic for a 30k salaried man to survive

rooftops:
Am I seeing a different thing here?

Do you know that subsidy ended May 30th instead of June 30th?

NB:i still would have criticised BAT as I am today if by june 30th no plan was brought forth to cushion the extreme effect it would result to .

From the context.. it is obvious he was referring to june 30th......he would have meant same resistance from my end

OasisX:
He clearly said he will remove it first day in office completely and gives his reasons. Very good reasons by the way.

I will have to watch it tomorrow...
If he didn't say he had a concrete plan to alleviate or diminishes d effect of abrupt removal then he would have definitely receives same criticism.


It is beyond politics..it is all about humanity and a sense of understanding the effect of insensitivity of some policy especially when done at a very wrong time

OasisX:
.....watch with open mind bro.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrgp1pMZNSw

Can't watch any video now...is there any difference bw d video and what rooftops wrote...


NB:I would've called him out exactly how I am doing if he had taken same route as BAT'S.


Like I usually say,I don't have time to trust any politician's manifesto ...I criticised and eulogies what I see n witness

rooftops:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.channelstv.com/2023/01/08/its-organised-crime-obi-vows-to-remove-subsidy/amp/
You can check this

I checked and didn't see "won't last a day long".........


Also, I saw plans he drew out b4 embarking on the journey in a tweet

rooftops:
Don't even stress yourself, obi said subsidy won't stay a day long if he wins.

Source
Cos I am aware of this

You can't satisfy human.....

Modified:He didnt support BAT'S candidacy judging from his timeline

OasisX:
.....Ẹ̀gbọ́n! What are you saying for God's sake! Lets try to be realistic once in a while. Buhari shut borders, yet it has no effect on smugglings.

Nigeria borders are porous! From South, to West and North. How many personnel do we even have in Customs?

By the way, why FG is contracting Pipelines protection to Tompolo and co? Why not entrusting the job to navy alone?

We have talked about it several times, we need more bodies across all our security formations. Also we must change our mindsets, cutting corners to making money is seriously klling the country.

Nigeria is very complex and so hard to govern. Buhari even said its easier for him to control his cows than Nigerians.

Perhaps we should hire Trump to lead and build walls across our borders. Let's hope on palliatives to cushioning effects on the removal because its not the least rather very major problem that must be tackled onces and for all.

You said something about smugglers...who is to blame for porous border?People are being paid to prevent illegal smuggling

If Nigeria is too complex to handle...who should resolve it the best he can...


When I say fuel diversion .I am not talking militancy bro but the corruption at its peak .....ships still come in for the purpose of moving crude that would definitely be unaccounted for....so who is to blame

Back to base...subsidy is the only thing the poor emnjoys despite the corruption playing around it wch can be nipped by a determined FG.....

If you cannot put things in place to some extent... You have no business removing it even in d midst of distrust in the heart of the masses u are presiding over...

We must see some reasonable changes b4 thinking of removing it a d not remove it at once,then think of solution later

OasisX:
.....of course not and that's why subsidy must go. I retract my objection against palliatives but subsidy? It must go!

Niger, Benin Republic and co are crying more than the bereaved.... you and I know why bruh.

Like I said b4....smuggling is a crime that reflects the corruption we all are against....

It is the duty of the FG to capture the true amount we are supposed to consume then juxtapose it with our expenditures to know if it is worth it or not.

Crude diversion/stolen is worse than subsidy....this must be treated b4 thinking of prosperity..

Diesel and kerosene ain't subsidised anymore but the outcome of it isnt felt cos the FG didn't face the real problem wch is Crude dieversion......



In summary, Subsidy is among the least things to worry about if we really want to progress..

OasisX:
Nigeria is making $40B on crude oil sales and spending $12B on fuel subsidy from it annually.

Do the maths bruh.

Expenditure as high as that isn't feasible only when things are working.

What does an average Nigerian paying tax enjoys...

Be truthful bro,do you think d subsidy funds really reflects the amount of fuel we are consuming?

OasisX:
I agree with rest of your points except removal of subsidy in phases. It has to go now to make other things work.

We can't achieve Nigeria of our dream without removing it.

But it head-scratching to remove subsidy when things are at it worst....and expect the masses to believe in your manifesto..



Batches removal or giving crudes to Dangote at a discounted price is ideal until the masses starts to believe in you....



Wait o... how much does crude fetches us yearly..cos I saw we produce 2.12m barrel per day.....Multiply dat by 365 days and Multiply it by d amount for 1 barrel....

Does that mean we will not exist to peradventure there was no crude??how does other country with no crude flourishes...

OasisX:
.......and can you suggest palliative measures that you think will help?

The only palliatives reasonable here is to stretch it till we are ready to remove the subsidy..


We are ready only when we see other things working or at full display..

Things like ..

Reasonable electricity n cutting of unnecessary bonuses....

Truth in the amount of fuel we consume as a nation

Block smugglers and be thorough about it.

Let farmers believe they can work in their farm....

Give Dangote crude at discounted price while working on those things I highlighted

Our lives depends on fuel here Nigeria......

OasisX:
.....seem you missed the part where I called for salary increment for civil servants? Palliatives seem to me another version of subsidy?

Palliatives in what sense by the way? Subsidizing Transportation? I do not expect prices of Foodstuff to be affected because trucks run on diesel.

It may sound insensitive but assuming I am not empathetic to plight of average Nigerians is wrong. Any form of subsidy should be crushed. We shouldn't move from one subsidy to another, that's the main reason I do not buy palliatives stuff.

Palliatives will beget corruption as it was evident during EndSars. Thank you once again for the prayer, I do not doubt the sincerity.

How many public worker do we have in Nigeria?how much increment would really reflect the plight they would be passing thru as a result of the abrupt display of insensitivity?


Does other private organisation free from paying tax...does a graduate who is making ends meet with bolt less of a Nigerian?

Does the salonist,barber,welders and many other hustlers deserve so less due to no light?

If food items are relegated to diesels..why are food items and other commodities flies high in the absence of fuel...?

The poor people trekking deserved it since they are too inferior to pay for high transportation.....


Anyway,it is as it is....This doesn't affects you and your famz doesn't give you d right tobl disparage others...

iamoyindamola:
You missed the laughing smiley








Bro

He uses d smiley on any posts

izzou:
[color=royalblue]That has to be the height of insensitivity, just because you want to win an argument

I support the removal. Even before now, I wanted it removed. But I would never say the government should not provide palliatives to cushion the effect. What kind of statement is that?

Because one can afford it doesn't mean millions of Nigerians can

I started leaving home around 9am this week, and i see students trekking distances at that time, just because the 200 naira transport is no longer 200 again.

Palliative is fcking to you because you dey Dubai ba?[/color]

It isn't about humanity anymore but politics where APC is always right and any other criticism should go fvck themselves.

Fuel presently is the most useful commodity in everything we do in Nigeria...one would expect the FG to be very sensitive in dealing with it.......

Removal of subsidy is good but must not be hurriedly removed without proper plan...........no security of food..no electricity....nothing just nothing.


What does an average Nigerian who pays tax benefit from d damn country apart from subsidised fuel?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]This is a very insensitive thing to say, as a human being

My prayer is that God Almighty will not put you in a position where you will have to suffer as Nigerians are suffering now.

And before you type any long explanation, i support the removal. I have always said it here before now.[/color]

It is always cruise when you are rich and people beneath you are suffering....

There wasn't any mistake when Oshiomole told a poor widow to go and die........

It is as it is.........

raumdeuter:
How much is the bonus of the elite?

Subsidy cost 7.2 trillion a year

Cutting their cost is a way of saying we are all in it...we can't be crying for 7.2t and be paying unnecessary bonuses while d poorest dies of hunger...


If they are too dull or dishonest to say the true reflection of our daily consumption and (2) are too corrupt to disallow smuggling of d fuel then they should continue d paying until they are ready....


In addition...How much does Nigeria make per year from same crude??.....

raumdeuter:
Segedinho govt has been borrowing to fund subsidy. Should they continue this?

Yes....

.if they can satisfy the bonuses of the elites without blinking

Balogunodua:
The the man never get to use half of his first tenure sir, but he never showed any sign of subsidy removal.

Same thing we are saying,he didn't remove it cos he understood d problem the people would face afterwards if nothing is put in place but he didn't borrowed heaven and earth either.




Buhari failed the economy and the so callee anti-corruption is a scam that I won't denie..he also perfomed pretty well in some sector.[/quote]what you called performance is what dropped us into this situation...borrow borrow n borrow despite Abacha's credit alert




It not an heartless decision...we can't continue fuel subsidy anymore, by doing so we are only postponing our suffering to promaxx level.[/quote]You are missing the point...removal of subsidy is good but things must be ideal b4 embarking...we are not ready yet cos cost of governance as well as corruption is the issue we have....no stable light..no security of farm products...it is heartless if the conditions of the poor isn't addressed properly.





Subsidy does not go beyond june does it?[/quote]Yea.but all of a sudden,it happened in May when everyone were unprepared n d nation not ready...minimum wage is roughly equivalent to 60 ltr of fuel...
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The present administration is not even 2weeks old...they need time. But we all must accept the fact that subsidy is gone for good.[/quote]They need time to think and plan b4 embarking on a life saving saga...as it is now,it is goin to be backward due to reaction from NLC and other folks....there would be daily loss in economy when the strike is activated.....u don't remove something as sensitive as subsidybon ur first day even without official ministers to give advice on how to go about it.


NB:As it stands now,Subsidy should go (despite no trust)but it must be gradual and things put in place.

Amigoss:
Is this not what people you call insincere are complaining about too?

Lols...

People just dey dribble themselves hoping say dey male sense all in d name of opposition............

Balogunodua:
It wasn't his Messiah that removed it.

Who removed it... .atleast..let's start from there

Balogunodua:
Yar'adua didn't get the chance..man was sick from the start of his administration.

Buhari stop fuel subsidy, but drop the balls on the intended May removal date.

Tinubu said it during his campaign, announced the removal during his inauguration and still stand by it....He gat the balls none of those you mentioned has.

On Obj....who started the so called fuel subsidy in the first place?

How long does it takeba president to remove subsidy that yaradua couldn't.

Buhari allowed extreme looting and couldn't remove it because he was too focused on borrowing for less important projects for 8years despite Abacha's credit alerts

It doesn't take balls put people into hardship....it is an heartless decision cos d effect is directed to d vulnerable.


Removal of subsidy isn't an issue but what is on ground to help d poorest........u don't just remove it then begins to solution.......you create solutions b4 removal....




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TrebleChamp:
I know all this jare, my mail was well addressed and the recipients got it. You no see sey Segedinho vex for me 😁..

Are yo sure Emefiele is not in jail yet??

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BlueRayDick:
Removing subsidy because unscrupulous elements smuggle fuel across the boarder is a silly thing to do.

It’s like those of us who attended government schools where name of sweepers per week are pasted boldly on the wall . Then a teacher Walks into the class , meets the class dirty and instead of calling out names of sweepers for that particular day (who failed to sweep and made the class dirty) ; he decides to punish the whole class including those that swept when it was their turn.

Nigeria customs are one of the best paid para military units in Nigeria , yet they are corrupt as they come . A serious government will task the Nigerian customs and their immigration partners to reduce to the nearest minimum smuggling activities across our boarders within a certain period or their bosses face the axe…..

But no! The common man must always bear the brunt for an inefficient system in this country . The common man must be punished for being a common man . The common man should suffer cos NNPC does not have an accurate figure of our daily fuel consumption(which gives room for oil marketers to game the system) , the common man must suffer the consequences of senior customs officials opening up smuggling routes which allows smugglers carry on their business and remit what’s due to the customs guys, the common man who is already alarmed with almost 40% unemployment rate must still find way to understand that 30 billion needs to be paid NASS members as severance package but the FG does not have the funds to make his life easy by making fuel available to him at a reduced price on his meagre income .

Those Agbadorians are confused to high heaven....looking for excuses every now and then to justify nonsense...

Balogunodua:
It politics sir.....Jona lack balls to stand his ground.

Jonathan..yaradua.Buhari n ObJ have no balls...it is only the obvious vegetable that has ball I guess.....

OasisX:


.....subsidy removal situation is already a case of spilled milk. Fuel are sold at actual price in most countries in the world.

It makes no sense. Its not just a sham, its also fuckin scam and it must go.

Fuel are sold at actual price in country that doesn't have to worry about light or having approximate meagre 30k as minimum wage...

We have crude in abundance compared to several other countries but leaving in extreme poverty...