European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 4:12pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
In other news, Man Utd will lose today, our play is shitty and uber useless. Fúck you Gaal!! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 4:02pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 4:00pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:58pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:57pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:56pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:51pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Ibime: Can and Lucas bring the basic requirements of a standard midfielder, energy and physical strength plus can trap a ball. They are 6/10 in everything, not great but acceptable. They also had Milner with them who is 6/10 in everything.
Mikel and Ramires do not bring the basics.
Mikels ball retention is 10/10. His energy is 1/10 and speed of passing is 1/10.
Ramires energy is 10/10. His strength on the ball is 1/10, his control and passing is 1/10.
You cannot put both of them together and expect them to compensate for each other. Mikel wants to slow the game, Ramires wants to speed it up. If Ramires runs forward, you just counterattack Mikel easily. If you catch Ramires 1 on 1 and shove him off the ball like Charlie Adam, Mikel will not make up the ground to cover him.
It is a HORRIBLE combination.
Any standard average midfield will better them all other things being equal.
There is a reason David Luiz and Kurt Zouma have been drafted substantially into midfield in the last 3 years. You've said it all!! I agree with this. Meanwhile, Moaninghoe said he's got nothing to say about the match. Even while being grilled, he remained unwaivered. For once, he sounds subdued. I feel pity for him.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:39pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:39pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:36pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:36pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:34pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:28pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Hahahahah. No Hazard and the pummeling continues.
How come no one is blaming the poor DM and defense but Hazard only?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:24pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
FBS: No one is asking about his defensive duties. What was his output with the ball? Coutinho scores outta nothing. Poor output, he was terrible today, but Moaninghoe's set-up didn't help him either. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:19pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Okay, Hazard is out, and Coutinho still scores. What again? Can you see the DMs are no where to be found? Oya blame Hazard again.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:17pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Willain is the undisputed Shekpe player of the first half of the season.
That was a brilliant chip from Oscar. What a genius. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:10pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
FBS: Why sack a top manager cos of a useless player? You just said it yourself. He's been uber useless today. Moaninghoe caused it, or at least half of it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:09pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Ibime: You can't support attacking players with midfield of Mikel and Ramires.
I've been bleating myself hoarss over this issue for 4 years. Now I just siddon look and laugh them TBH, me don tire. If Mourinho chose to defend in his home turf thinking this is last season, that's his headache. He'll be the one to be sacked not me. Make I siddon enjoy the outcome of the match. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:04pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
FBS: We are watching. He is back on the wing. Wonder why? Manager does not know what to do or just a simple fact that he could see that he was a waste of space in that position? He's been removed. Chai. He's been terrible today. This problem is beyond me. I think sacking Moaninghoe is the best option. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 3:02pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
nateevs: Thank you very much sirrr! Finally someone saying it as it should be. Not just blaming a player for the sake of it but looking critically at the tactical set-up and judging how this improves and hinders attacking and defensive flows.
Thank goodness you are not even a Chelsea fan. Even as a rival fan, I pity Hazard sometimes. Maybe coz I'm a fan of his. The truth is, Chelsea's midfield is lagging behind. No pressing, no tempo, no support for Hazard up front. Even the commentator is complaining of Mikel and Ramires not supporting those upfront. The full backs are not even turning up. I don't understand why Moaninghoe will come to Bridge and structure his formation to defend in front of his home. That's madness. Chelsea don't have that psychological advantage to defend a one goal lead like they do before. The defense is leaky, why not try to subdue your opponent by out-scoring and pushing them back to their own halves? Hazard can't make any magic without support. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 2:54pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
FBS: His had the ball on a few occasions but made a mess of them. Coutinho received a very simple pass but we all saw what he did. Okay nau. Make we watch 2nd half. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 2:52pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
nateevs: Why do you analyse football like this?
Watch when Countinho does his magic and see how many Liverpool players are within 5 yards of him and how many are within 5 yards of one another.
This is a structure of attacking football. They all move forward as a unit and defend as a unit, making simple passes very easy to make and therefore Coutinho able to create magic.
On the contrary watch what happens when Hazard receives the ball and how many players are within 5 yards of him. 90 percent of the time, only Willian is. Both players are overloaded. What do you want from Hazard? To dribble everyone from 60 yards? Or Willian and Hazard to keep doing one-twos until they reach the edge of the box and hope they don't lose the ball?
Jeez, look at forking Ramires in midfield and look as snail as Mikel in midfield. How do you sustain an attacking moment when your midfield is shit?
You don't analyse players like this bros. Plus Hazard is not only what is wrong with this team. I mentioned at least 4 different tactical errors. May your days be long, iseeeee!! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 2:49pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
FBS: Coutinho doing his Magic like top players should. Hazard on the other hand just not on the pitch. Oga mi, there's no magic Hazard can create in this match with Moaninghoe playing a defense-minded football right on his home turf. Who will Hazard give passes to overlap? Who will bring up ball for Hazard to make his mark? Hazard is fùcked in this match!! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 2:46pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
FBS: My guy. Fans can never be satisfied. I'm not saying Mikel is fantastic at the DM spot, I was explaining why he was selected ahead of Matic. Okay, I understand. But about your assessment on Hazard, I think he'll perform better if Moaning had choosen an attack-minded wingers or full backs. Zouma and Azil are just stuck at their position, not supporting one single attack especially Zouma. See how Moreno and Clyne are ripping them apart. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 2:39pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
nateevs: Slow but simple passes is actually the wrong approach against a side that presses aggressively in midfield. This is why he has not even been able to make those simple passes.
Plus slow and simple against an univentive Ramires in midfield, is isolating the attackers and nullifying Hazard's potential influence in the middle.
Add Oscar playing on the left instead of a conventional winger and two full backs who cannot overlap, then you wonder why we struggle to create chances.
I just hate this defensive football. FBS, are you reading? Just coz I attack Shekpe coz of rivalry doesn't mean I can't be unbiased in my appraisal. Ramirez and Matic combo is better than one with Mikel. I said this with the truest of intentions. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 2:35pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Coutinho scores. I saw this coming. Weakened DMs to safeguard the front of the defence. I repeat, Matic is a better option |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 2:31pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
FBS: You missed the point why Mikel is on the pitch.
Mikel= slow but simple passes.
Matic= fast but too many touches and risky passes. I just feel a lil bit tempo is needed, the match is too conservative and slow. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 2:29pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
On a normal day like last season when Shekpe still held sway in EPL, Skertel wouldn't have gotten away with that elbow on Costa without Costa giving him the "Arsenal treatment." He seems so quiet today maybe because of his antecedents and Moaninghoe's advice. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 2:22pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
FBS: Mikel is not and never will be a DM. That's not his game at all. I will choose a weakened Matic over Mikel even while drugged. This is not a rocket science. He even slows the midfield and doesn't inject tempo to the play when Hazard and Ramirez are trying to counter Liverfool. Mourinho got this one wrong IMHO. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 2:10pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Mikel is uber useless in that DM. He'd subbed. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 2:01pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Mikel losing posession since 52 BC. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by sinizia: 1:59pm On Oct 31, 2015 |
Hazard killed that counter-attack. |