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Eastlink:
Proof! This thread had made me understand that proof and Ijo are world opposite. A typical Ijo man will be showed proof but the Ogogoro in him will make him see white and call it black

The biggest proof of this argument is the current King of Opobo affirming Opobians are Ijaws.

Verdict of this Argument: Opobians are Ijaws

emperorshaokahn:
if it makes you sleep better at night,fine.as for bonny and opobo,they are and will forever remain igbo.

I sleep well at night, Opobians and their king sleeps well too knowing that they have affirmed their Ijawness.

The only people having nightmares are people like you and your goons who wants to forcibly identify them as Igboid.

You can't tell a man where he is from if he already knows where he is from.

Opobians knows their true identify.

What me and you think about them is inconsequential

Alabo7978:
that is what they do.
they set up kingdoms in any where they enter.
Ezecanada
eze'ndigbo Ghana
eze'ndigbo Germany

heck there is even eze'ndigbo in Japan.
in 400 years time or 500 years time, one descendants of the slaves lieng here will tell us how igbos owned those countries.

Very shady and fraudulent

emperorshaokahn:
is that all?.

That is all that matters.

The King of Opobo has affirmed him and his Subjects Ijawness.

Any other opinion that contradicts this claim is inconsequential

Alabo7978:
lol, they keep cumming hard whenever they see their masters from the ijo Ethnic nation.
they don't even know Opobo (Opubo) was renamed after King Opubo of Bonny.

I ask them again, why was there an enculturating ritual where igbos are renamed and enculturated into the ijo tribes by a master who bought them when they claim igbos owned Bonny they went mute.

Lol , They don't even know the origin of King Jaja

EzeCanada:
I am still wondering why anyone is unable to realise that these places are concoctions and imaginary. They look like mere geographic expressions to me ( evil imagination in high places).

If in doubt lets review his identity: "Gbaramatu Clan in Warri South West LGA in Southern Ijaw LGA of Bayelsa in Delta State"

Does this even make sense? Looks shady and fraudulent.

Perhaps the only thing shady and fraudulent is your existence.

Take a look at your name EzeCanada.

An Igbo King in Canada?.

Isn't this fraudulent and shady?

Alabo7978:
those clowns are yet to say anything every since I asked them those questions up there.
they probably might have drowned or something, or who knows the lies they are trying to concort in their Den of thievery.
they're really working hard in their mischievous WhatsApp group.

How can they say anything when they haven't even stepped a foot on Opobo or Bonny.

The king of Opobo has affirmed his Ijawness but yet this online wailers keeps masturbating on Opobians ethnicity

Eastlink:
So she mush inform you about her identity. I guess the Ogogoro you drank this morning is affecting your brain.

Go and meet Mary and question her whether she took permission from you before starting her Igboness. Majority Opobo identify as Opobians. You’ll hardly hear them say something else.

And please when did Mary Data Uranta stated her Igboness.


At least it is widely known that the current King of Opobo has affirmed his Ijawness

Eastlink:
So she mush inform you about her identity. I guess the Ogogoro you drank this morning is affecting your brain.

Go and meet Mary and question her whether she took permission from you before starting her Igboness. Majority Opobo identify as Opobians. You’ll hardly hear them say something else.

And please when did Mary Data Uranta stated her Igboness. Show proof.

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Omanambala:
Is Uranta an Igbo name , Kalabari or Ijaw ?

Uranta is not an exclusive name for Nigerians alone.

Mary Uranta whose full name is Mary Data Uranta is from the popular Opobo Uranta family.

The Uranta family is an Ijoid family in Opobo and a popular member of that family is the late
Tony Tamuno-Ipriye Uranta.

At least you can see the Ijoid middle name of late Tony

Eastlink:
So she mush inform you about her identity. I guess the Ogogoro you drank this morning is affecting your brain.

Go and meet Mary and question her whether she took permission from you before starting her Igboness. Majority Opobo identify as Opobians. You’ll hardly hear them say something else.

Mary Uranta is from Opobo and Opobo is confirmed as an Ijaw territory which is affirmed by the King of Opobo His Majesty king (Dr.) Dandeson Douglas Jaja JP, Jeki V, Treaty king, Amayanabo of Opobo

Eastlink:
A Bayelsa clown want to be informed about a person’s identify. I guess the Ogogoro you drank this morning is affecting your brain.

I guess king of Opobo His Majesty king (Dr.) Dandeson Douglas Jaja JP, Jeki V, Treaty king, Amayanabo of Opobo is also a drunkard for affirming the Ijawness of Opobo?
Or perhaps you are the drunkard who can not accept the King of Opobo affirmation on being Ijaw

Pass11:
This is ijaw constitution ,read it and understand

What are you trying to say?

Igboid:
So because you have marital ties to Opobo and Bonny people, that makes Opobo and Bonny people Ijaws?
So you reckon we don't have Igbos from SE married to Opobo and Bonny people and vice versa?

No my marriage ties doesn't make Bonny or Opobo Ijaws.
What makes them Ijaw is their self identification of being Ijoid and this is affirmed by current King of Opobo, His Majesty king (Dr.) Dandeson Douglas Jaja JP, Jeki V, Treaty king, Amayanabo of Opobo.

DitariDisciple2:
Yes he did.
He said they are Ijaws.

Since His Majesty king (Dr.) Dandeson Douglas Jaja JP, Jeki V, Treaty king, Amayanabo of Opobo has affirmed his Ijawness, the debate is over.

"Opobian is Ijoid" so says the His Majesty king (Dr.) Dandeson Douglas Jaja JP, Jeki V, Treaty king, Amayanabo of Opobo

emperorshaokahn:
stick to your bayelsa and stay off igbo issues(bonny and opobo)

Current King of Opobo His Majesty king (Dr.) Dandeson Douglas Jaja JP, Jeki V, Treaty king has already affirmed his Ijawness.

End of Discussion

9Pluto:
You don't seem to understand the extent of Ijaw propaganda arm. If you do you would understand why the King had to admit he is Ijaw after barely surviving them at the Supreme Court. This people are threatening people.

Imagine being told to stop speaking your language based on a false narrative. That is why we need to put all this out there because most of them don't even know.

@Slayerforever, do the needful asap.

Did His Majesty king (Dr.) Dandeson Douglas Jaja JP, Jeki V, Treaty king, Amayanabo of Opobo affirmed his Ijawness or not?

emperorshaokahn:
in your dream abi?.

Ask your Kinsman 9pluto, he will confirm His Majesty king (Dr.) Dandeson Douglas Jaja JP, Jeki V, Treaty king, Amayanabo of Opobo affirmed his Ijawness

Igboid:
He is a Bayelsan.

Oh yes I am from Southern Ijaw LGA in Bayelsa and I am from Gbaramatu clan in Warri South West LGA in Delta State, my daughter's mum is from Okirika town in river State and my cousin's wife is from Opobo, I have a Aunty who is married to a Bonny man.

I am related to Opobo and Bonny by marriage and I know about their customs and tradition more than you can imagine.

I have been to Opobo and Bonny whereas you have not, I have first hand knowledge about ordinary people from Opobo and Bonny

emperorshaokahn:
guy go rest abeg,you no get talk

A whole King of Opobo has affirmed his Ijawness but yet you are still masturbating on Opobians identify.

Now , who nor get talk ?

9Pluto:
@Igboid, ignore that guy. He obviously has comprehension problem and does not understand what this thread is all about. Unless he is ijaw himself, I do not understand why he should be so pained.

Foolishness is when the King of Opobo claim he is Ijaw and a nairalander like you claim he is Igbo.

Do you know more than the King of Opobo when it comes to which ethnicity Opobians belong to?

Eastlink:
Search for Mary Uranta the Nollywood actress and come back.here to receive your Ogogoro baptism. I know many, in fact so many Opobians that cherish their Igbo identity. They don't come out to make noise.

Did Mary Uranta claim Opobians are Igbo?

Igboid:
What is the screenshot supposed to mean?
Does he speak Igbo at home or Kalabari?

He speaks Ibani dialect of Ijaw as his mother tongue and he understands broken Igbo as Igbo is their borrowed language just as English is a general borrowed language of Nigeria.

Now, you keep deceiving yourself that Opobians identify as Igboid but here I am showing a real person who is from there so you can start a real investigation instead of assuming wrongly

emperorshaokahn:
just Izon and Ijoid language speakers and leave Igboid speakers (Bonny and Opobo), Edoid speakers (Epie-Attisa, Udekeme Engenni) and Ibibiod speakers (Obulom, Abua, Ogbia, Abureni, Andoni,etc) alone.

We will continue to call Ijaw what it is, which is a "political franchise".
It is the pure truth and we will not shy away from saying it.
You can cry all you like, but the truth must be said.that guy is just trying to make you feel guilty

You beat around the bush without knowing what you are arguing about, you have not even stepped a foot on Opobo or Bonny and yet you are masturbating on their ethnicity

izac82:
If you don't forcibly annex groups that don't speak your language as yours who will call your organization a political franchise.
You have to do your home work. One criteria should be shared language and culture, not just topography.

Please just show me one ordinary person that is verified to be real from Opobo claiming to be Igbo?.

If you show me one, I will show you 100 verifiable persons from Opobo who can testify their Ijawness.

Igboid:
So it's okay to have people who speak Igbo, Ibibiod and Edoid as part of your ethnic group, just because they want to benefit from crude oil politics that Ijaws are in charge of.
Then get angry when people point out to you that your ethnicity is a fraudulent one, since it is not based on homogeneity of language, but on Political and economic benefits?

You see where the problem lies!

Until you limit your Ijaw ethnicity to just Izon and Ijoid language speakers and leave Igboid speakers (Bonny and Opobo), Edoid speakers (Epie-Attisa, Udekeme Engenni) and Ibibiod speakers (Obulom, Abua, Ogbia, Abureni, Andoni,etc) alone.

We will continue to call Ijaw what it is, which is a "political franchise".
It is the pure truth and we will not shy away from saying it.
You can cry all you like, but the truth must be said.

Until you step foot on Opobo, you won't be taken serious.

Below is a screenshot one of my course mate back in school who's from Opobo. Perhaps you can search for him on Facebook and tell him is Igbo?

He is just one of my many acquaintances from Opobo

Igboid:
Tell yourself the truth.
Is Ijaw an ethnic group?

Where else in the world do you have an ethnic having groups within it with totally divergent and unrelated languages?

How exactly is Ogbia Ijaw?
The people speak a language that is totally Ibibiod and classified as a Cross River language.
It has no relationship whatsoever with Izon. This is the truth. No lies here.

Look at Abureni, look at Obulom (Abuloma), look at Odual and Andoni.
These people all speak Ibibio language related to each other and to Ibibio. The language is classified Cross River language for crying out loud by linguists. No Izon man from Gbaramatu can understand a single sentence in those languages, but an Ibibio man who listens well can pick out one or two things.

Look at Epie, Atissa, Engenni, Udekeme (Degema) .
These people are essentially Edoid people, distant relatives to Isokos. They call Child "Omo" and speak like other Edoids.

How can anyone call them Ijaw?

Then look at Opobo and Bonny. These people speak Igbo language.
Undiluted Igbolanguage that an Igbo speaking person from far away Nsukka in Enugu will understand without an interpreter.
But you want to tell me they are Ijaws, using dubious and deliberate manipulation to coerce them into dropping Igbo language.

Come on! Ijaw as an ethnic group can only happen in a fraudulent country like NIGERIA where truth is abhored and lies are embraced which is why the country is not working.

On one hand you Izons claim that Language doesn't matter in ethnicity, that what matters is to shout Aswana and Izon haa and then crude oil and riverine terrain, and then on other hand , you are busy forcing people to drop their mother languages to fit into your Kolokuma language, because deep inside, you know that uniformity of language is the basis of real organic ethnicity World wide.

I have nothing against Izons, but the truth must be said.
You lots are living in lies and building your franchise on top of falsehoods.
And you expect folks to keep quiet even when you are virtually trying to erase our Igbo legacy in Bonny and Opobo?

I was enjoying this thread until I noticed Bigotry.
Just like the other Ijaw guys have told you, until you can change the realities on ground, all you are doing is just academic excercise.

I have friends and in-laws from Bonny and Opobo who have identified as Ijaws and I think it will be foolish to argue with people who haven't stepped foot on Opobo or Bonny to get a first hand knowledge of this people.

Until you step foot on Opobo and do the needful, you are only fooling yourselves.

Your assertions are inconsequential

Igboid:
Ohanaeze Ndiigbo is not a franchise like Ijaw.
The criteria to join Ohanaeze Ndiigbo is that the group has to be speaking Igbo language or related dialect as a mother tongue.

The criteria to join INC and IYC is just to have 100 people from that community come and scream Asawana at Yenegoa, be sure to have crude oil, be riverine, and you are stamped Ijaw!

Ijaw is not an ethnic group.
It's a political franchise!
Never compare it to Ohanaeze Ndiigbo.

Let me go to your level of Bigotry.

I insist Igbo is not an ethnic group but a political franchise.

If it is not bigotry, then I don't see why any ethnic group should be reduced to a mere political franchise.

Most people accused Buhari and most Northerners of tribal bigotry but here we are displaying bigotry.

If Ijaws are not a ethnic group, then Igbos are not an ethnic group.

If you check my history on this forum, I have defended Igbos especially during the unnecessary militarization of the Igboland by the Federal Govt.

I am disappointed that some Igbos are no different from some of the bigoted northern oligarchs which I have been defending the Igbos against.

I now know why some person will only shout marginalization when they are not benefitting from the center

emperorshaokahn:
i know them,i just finished schooling one in one opobo group like that,even the opobians are becoming tired of them.

Perhaps you can send us a link so we can confirm how you finish them and the Opobians applauding you

Igboid:
He is a Bayelsa guy.
Most of them here are Bayelsans.
Go to every Opobo and Bonny group and see them crawling everywhere there.

We basically had to sanitize Ndoki groups from their infiltrations.
These people are formidable, hardened and well financed for their expansionist schemes by INC and IYC.

Are you trying to tell me that Opobians and Bonny people are so foolish that they can't come out openly and declare themselves Igbos?

izac82:
Ask yourself that question. Does Ndoki in any way speak anything related to Ijaw? They are not even bilingual, but you are claiming them, knowing fully well that Ndoki is the root of Opobo and Bonny in extension. Like I said, you may end up triggering a never ending conflict if you don't remove your hands from what is not yours. We know how old Rivers state was bedeviled with crises, until Bayelsa state was created. Make una rest, una no wan gree.

Have you been to Opobo or Bonny?