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donedy: Please could you back that up? Don't just make a fallacy just because the manufacturer listed that ability. Please tell us advanced SAM systems it has encountered.

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] Don't flatter yourself...B2s will get blown off by SA 11s. [/color]

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] I give up!!! [/color]

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] What am also saying is they are very vulnerable and hence are not as decisive in major conflicts today as most people believe them to be... [/color]

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] That is why drones are in high demand to supplement the numbers of expensive trained pilots and aircrafts....How bad would it look like for a $1 million trained pilot to get shot down in his $50million jet by a missile costing $250,000... [/color]

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] We was talking about heatseekers and afterburners then you said something about lock which in this case is redundant because locks are function of radar not heat (our current subject) and then you went of tangent about radar resignation and stealth but we had to bring you back to heat,heatseekers and afterburners.. [/color]

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] Aircrafts generally will be withdrawn from major war offensives because military strategies with the prevailing advanced ballistic systems will make their role in the front,no matter the generations, useless just like expensive battleships... [/color]

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] We are talking heat not radar... [/color]

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] [b] Missiles locks are a function of radar not heat.. [/color]

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] What scenario are you talking about? we thought we was squaring off with one B-2,now you say (change the goalposts) we got multiple bogeys?! against one lonely battery?!!, that is not a feasible nor strategic or a tactical scenario..It can never happen....If it is an air raid or a bombing run then its imperative the radar stations must be knocked out but how is it possible when most are very mobile with thick camouflage?? O.k, so you manage to knock off some and drop your bombs then how do you escape with heatseekers all over the sky, else you shut your engines and crash....Yes,Russia is the best in advanced missile weaponry that is why expensive american jets will become obsolete very soon. [/color]

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] Missiles locks are a function of radar not heat..The purpose of deploying flares against high velocity heat seeking projectiles is easily defeated when a bomber aircraft sacrifices agility,manouervability and just plain speed for stealth that is why we have bomber escorts...Or is a bomber capable of extreme g-force just to evade a missile without knocking out its pilots?? [/color]

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] By mobility,we mean 4-wheel drive sometimes the most simplest inventions can get the hardest tasks done.Now using the aforementioned principle, heatseekers are a surefire way to hunting B-2s....except if they exhaust cold-air contrails from their afterburners... [/color]

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] What concept of the word MOBILITY do you not understand?? If an invader tracks a radar signature for interdiction how does the invader know that particular station isnt mobile and so must have changed locations?! thus leaving itself vulnerable to a counterattack. [/color]

50calibre: The B2 stealth bomber is the beating heart of America's ariel capabilities, that beast can penetrate air defences, be deployed to anywhere in the world within hours, and carry nuclear warheads.

Little wonder the US only brings them out when they want to flex some military muscles.

50calibre: The B2 stealth bomber is the beating heart of America's ariel capabilities, that beast can penetrate air defences, be deployed to anywhere in the world within hours, and carry nuclear warheads.

Little wonder the US only brings them out when they want to flex some military muscles.

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] Deploying Armoured divisions with extensive artillery or/including mobile SAM and SAS system support would be a very good projection... [/color]

bookface: You missed the point!

First, you cant carry a closed in weapons system on a missile!

Second, you can't use a closed in weapons systems for targets that are miles away.

Third, there are drones that are the same size as jet fighters, a radar cannot tell the difference between the two. A radar will only identify either a small or large object flying at xyz speed along with a number of other information - the radar will not distinguish between a drone and a fighter. You will need to get up close and personal to make an identification - i.e scramble your own jets.

Fourth, an invader that is looking to target your radar stations may send in the drones as in the third point above as decoys - it wouldn't matter if you shoot your SAMs or whatever at them, as long as your radar station begin to track these decoys, their locations can be mapped and they can be taken out pretty quickly! Once your radar stations are out, every your missile defense structure is wrecked! It took NATO only two days to wipe out Libya's Soviet made missile defense structure!

Fifth, the Russians may truly have the technology to "see" through stealth, but these claims are untested. The beauty of having a stealth technology is that it gives you the upper hand, not only in combat but in psychological wars. For instance, the US may claim that it has just flown a B2 bomber through Russian airspace - this may in fact be false! But the Russians cannot tell if it is true or false - Until a time when you actually shoot down a B2 spirit, an F22 or an F35, you claims to have the capacity to "see" through stealth will remain untested.

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] Every military era comes with its own advancements and obscolesences. The era of Gun powder,Fixed or Mobile artillery,Iron-clad Battle ships,Aircrafts-carriers,Aircrafts....Now we are looking at the age of SAMs and SASs... [/color]

Ahuitzotl: [color=#1980BC] So as most SAMs can reach altitudes of up to 10km and range of 20km, there isnt any need to sight the enemy before launching.Either way,aircrafts these days are very vulnerable to guided surface fire, especially high altitude long range projectiles.I foresee the next air war to be on a juncture as to who deploys the most advanced SAM batteries....Not the most expensive Aircrafts. [/color]

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Kenai: July 24, 2014
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