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Islam › Re: UAE Terror List: Ridiculous Despotism Gets More Comical by slyfox5555: 3:37am On Dec 25, 2014

jiddama

first of all UAE is not a Muslim country, its a country with a predominantly Muslim population but its system of government and policy making is not Islamic.

I will encourage you to do more research on the subject. There is no country that is a "Muslim" country. There are countries that base their laws and way of life using Islamic jurisprudence and Islamic law commonly called Sharia. There are countries which practice Islamic theocracy and implement strict Sharia laws i.e. Saudi Arabia and their likes. There are countries that practice Sharia laws and incorporate civil laws and the U.A.E is one of them but it's a predominantly Islamic country.

And to your allegations:
what is terror? how do the Emirates define terror? that 'certain criteria' which they used was it fair and principled or was it bias and unethical? and why wouldn't the list and the criteria be subject to scrutiny especially when it seems to have a fishy agenda?

Simple - in most cases, the association with the Muslim Brotherhood has led to Islamic terror. I can give you so many examples:

1. The Muslim Brotherhood was responsible for the assassination of Egyptian president Anwar Sadat in the 70's. I wonder how a "peaceful" group would result to assassination to it's own president.
2. The Muslim Brotherhood supreme guide Mustafa Mashhur said that Christians and Jews in Egypt should pay the jizya in the 90's. Are Egyptians Copts and Orthodox Jews not Egyptians like other Muslims in Egypt? Why should one Egyptian pay protection money to another Egyptian because they share different beliefs?
3. Ayman al-Zawahiri, the current leader of Al-Qaeda was and is a Muslim Brotherhood member. He has murdered thousands of innocent Muslims and non-Muslims because of the role he plays in this organization.
4. Muslim Brotherhood members murder copts: http://www.raymondibrahim.com/muslim-persecution-of-christians/egypt-christians-killed-for-ransom/

Naturally, the leaders of U.A.E are not ignorant. The president doesn't want to get up one morning and his country is taken over by "extremist elements". There are 1001 examples I can give.

personally I don't consider the USA as my marker to labelling people and groups. they are neither saints nor do they have a clean history to be jurors.besides their bone of contention as regards to the middle east always arises when they do not see eye to eye in policy making.

The current US administration doesn't label CAIR a terrorist organization. CAIR is not, strictly speaking, a terrorist organization: it doesn’t blow things up or exhort others to do so. It is, however, an Islamic supremacist organization with the same goals as those of Al-Qaeda and the Islamic State: the imposition of Islamic law wherever and whenever possible

so are we now to just brand an organization like CAIR as a terror group just because our instinct and pseudo-psychological tink tanks believe that they are capable of degenerating to terror?

Nope; we brand them a terror organization based on their history and leadership and their support for terrorist organization. Do you know how many CAIR members have been arrested on Islamic terrorism charges?

Here is what the U.A.E responded when asked why CAIR was labelled a terrorist organization:

Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan is the United Arab Emirates’ Minister of Foreign Affairs. In this interview with Fox’s Bret Baier, he says: "Our threshold is quite low when we talk about extremism. We cannot accept incitement or funding when we look at some of these organizations. I mean, for many countries the definition of terror is that you have to carry a weapon and terrorize people. For us, it’s far beyond that. We cannot tolerate even the smallest and tiniest amount of terrorism."

I hope that throws some light on the issue.

my answer to above is no.we don't because we judge base on what we see not some some wish washy feeling.As regards to their members allegations that is an individual action so should be treated as such and appropraite measures should be taken if found "guilty".

Individual members? What are you talking about? You have a group that supports the Muslim Brotherhood agenda. A group that could demonize you if you critic Islam and attack you legally. You have a group that supports other terrorist organizations. Several members of CAIR has called for the destruction of Israel in so many words. The list is endless

And you kept mentioning CAIR as I recall there were over 70 groups for what crime were the other good ones on the list for?

You brought up CAIR in your post and I have been following CAIR for some time. I know a few people in Minnesota who family members have joined groups like Al-Shabaab in Somalia and the CAIR local council has demonized the local imam for speaking with the feds and authorities about this. My advice - pay close attention

from your post I can see you are a Muslim; my advice:
Rasullullah s.a.w said ;do not think bad of your fellow Muslims unless they do something wrong.

I don't know where you are my sister. CAIR doesn't represent me as a Muslim neither does it represent thousands of other Muslims. I can't even begin to start with the claims that CAIR has against it:

1. Steven Pomerantz, the FBI's former chief of counter-terrorism, notes that "CAIR, its leaders, and its activities effectively give aid to international terrorist groups.". That is coming from a former government official
2. There are American Muslims who reject CAIR's claim to speak on their behalf. The late Seifeldin Ashmawy, publisher of the New Jersey-based Voice of Peace, called CAIR the champion of "extremists whose views do not represent Islam"
3. Kamal Nawash, head of Free Muslims Against Terrorism, finds that CAIR and similar groups condemn terrorism on the surface while endorsing an ideology that helps foster extremism, adding that "almost all of their members are theocratic Muslims who reject secularism and want to establish Islamic states.

Perhaps the most obvious problem with CAIR is the fact that at least five of its employees and board members have been arrested, convicted, deported, or otherwise linked to terrorism-related charges and activities.

I agree with you on the fact that not all terrorists are born terrorists but we need to take the right steps to ensure they are not being radicalized.and that will be another discussion entirely

I am interested in that discussion. My stand on that is simple - some parts of Islam require a reformation.

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Islam › Re: UAE Terror List: Ridiculous Despotism Gets More Comical by slyfox5555: 4:24pm On Dec 24, 2014

jiddama:
The U.A.E terror list was not only inconsistent but also blatantly wrong in some cases. I mean a list that will rank alqeada,boko haram ,ISIL etc in the same category as CAIR,Finnish Islamic Association,IUMS,MAB etc is just not right.Makes one to suspect d motive behind this list. How is d destruction and atrocities committed by the former compatible 2 d charitable, commendable acts of human integration done by d latter.
Honestly that list was a disappointment ,which could incite hatred and suspicion towards the "good"groups
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It's a Muslim country that has it's own terrorist list based on certain criteria - we should objectively research those criteria. Why are Muslims debating and condemning the U.A.E because of that. The US considers Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist organizations yet many Muslims all over the world consider them legitimate resistance movement.

How many CAIR members have been directly linked to the Muslim Brother-hood and actively or passively tunneling funds to numerous terrorist groups?

1. CAIR has numerous lawsuits against it because of several terror related charges
2. CAIR discourages Muslims from talking to FBI
3. Several former CAIR officials have been convicted of various crimes related to jihad terror
4. CAIR "disappointed" that it failed to intimidate UC Berkeley into canceling Bill Maher appearance because Bill said "Islam is the only religion that will assassinate you if you talk about it - Islam is like the mafia"

There are 1001 other reasons but the U.A.E is concerned with the support such organizations have with the Muslim Brotherhood. I suggest we look at the list more objectively. Besides, not all terrorists were born terrorists; they were normal people at some point until they start to kill others in the same of God and especially in the name of our religion

Islam › Re: ALLAHU AKBAR!!! See What Becomes Of A Woman After Steping On The Qur'an by slyfox5555: 9:30pm On Dec 18, 2014

Alvelt14:
av also heard about a man who urinate on the Holy Qur'an then his manhood grew very big he is ashamed of himself till he commit succide, may Allah guide us to the right path

Any evidence?

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Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 5:47am On Dec 18, 2014

Gentlesniper:
....bros relax cos we are really enjoying the fresh air and dts the goodness of democracy, atleast if it were in the millitary era, they wud av bin court marshaled long b4 nw without even making headlines, bt in this case, there is stil hope 4 dem

Exactly my point; they shouldn't be killed especially under a democracy.

Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 5:13am On Dec 18, 2014

abbey621:
Now you are just ramblings and trying to justify yourself by comparing apples to oranges. What do you mean by lawful? Where in the Oath does it say lawful and also are you telling me this oath applies to the Nigerian military? Please do not insult my intelligence! I'm in the U.S and I am very familiar with the oath, you do not disobey a direct order for any reason, it would land you in military court and a quick dishonorable discharge. Nigerian military laws are much stricter than U.S laws, so please stop trying to justify yourself with the rubbish you posted. You are not an attorney, you do not know anything about military laws and I have my doubts you ever served in the military and if you did definitely not in the U.S Armed forces, cos based on our conversations so far, you can never pass a military psychological evaluation, your fellow men in the armed forces can never trust you in battle and hence can never be allowed to serve! Stop posting rubbish and trying to justify yourself by mixing apples with oranges.

You were the same id.iot that called me a liar and said I didn't attend a navy school now you are here stating I was never in the Navy grin

. Your "know-it-all" attitude is the reason why you seem to know little about the subject you are talking about. Where in my post did I endorse a direct disobedience to your superiors if it was a lawful order?

You were the same person that said if you were asked to murder your father and you didn't; you will be court-marshalled = you are the only idio.t who don't know the difference between killing and murder in a military context. It's physically tiring trying to reason with you.

Not all military orders are lawful - get that into your iron brain. Whether you believed I served my country or not is irrelevant; that will not change the paycheck I receive every month

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Go read it up for your education - http://www.ucmj.us/

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Christianity Etc › Re: 'We Don’t Dabble In Politics': Redeemed Christian Church by slyfox5555: 4:33am On Dec 18, 2014

babaluckey:
Jesus Christ or his disciples did not practice politics. These days new generation churches are into something else for real.

I remember Jesus saying - "Give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar and unto God what is God". No church should endorse one party or politician but should encourage their members to exercise their constitutional rights.

The Church should speak against injustice and corruption the same way Jesus and His disciples did - that is not politics; that is speaking the truth.

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Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 4:21am On Dec 18, 2014

abbey621:
I would love to educate you but I think you have a great resource at your disposal. Why don't you ask your close friend about the oath? Because I feel like I'm going in circles communicating with you. I come from a military family, with two siblings currently in the Nigerian military, both of them graduated NDA in 2002 and are now Majors in the armed forces. If that is not enough, how about using plain old common sense, do you honestly think you can join the armed forces without pledging your allegiance? Even common police officers undertake an oath, so I'm surprised a military man like yourself is debating this issue. Like I said before arguing on here solves nothing, I suggest you reach out to your close friend for a little more enlightenment on military laws.

You seem to have hard time understanding the premise:

1. We have an oath here in the US when we want to join the armed forces:

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

That oath is very simple - defend the constitution, obey the president and my superiors as long as it is [size=15pt]lawful[/size]. That is why we have regulations and code of military justice. A democratic government is not a tyranny; we have laws we all follow, even the military.

2. The Nigerian oath is similar with some core differences - since you know so much about your military history; please read on it before you make yourself look stup.id online. A section of that oath stipulates the following:

I will, in the performance of my duties, eschew and expose corruption and will not corrupt others or aid or abet corruption in all its facets.

I take God beg you, please do more research in the future. Your brothers graduating from the Nigerian Defense Academy has nothing to do with military doctrine or military laws. We have military attorneys and lawyers that study military laws.

What you have going on now is a show and those innocent soldiers are been used as scape-goats

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Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 4:10am On Dec 18, 2014

clemzo101:
Choi! Guy u nor dey sleep? Abi u be evil spirit?

. I be like breeze

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Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 4:03am On Dec 18, 2014

clemzo101:
Story for the gods!!! No one is killing anybody, all dis judgement is just a white elephant one, what will happen at d end is dat dos boys will be dismissed from service, Jonathan isn't gonna sign the papers for their execution.....don't tell dem I told u.

Keeping my fingers crossed

Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 3:46am On Dec 18, 2014

abbey621:
If you ever had any military training then you would know the oath every recruit signs. It's obvious you need more education. If you pm me your details, I might be willing to help you meet someone that can educate you on military laws(I'm serious, free of charge!)

Bros - I asked you for the oath that every soldier takes. Since you know a lot about Nigerian military laws - can you please state the oath that every soldier takes?

Thanks for your offer - not interested

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Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 3:44am On Dec 18, 2014

abbey621:
You are a flat out liar! What's the name of the Navy school you attended, what year?? Where did you serve? Call yourself a Veteran, which battles have you fought. I hope you know that impersonation is a felony punishable under the law, it might be ok to do it on a site like nairaland but please don't do it in real life o, you could land yourself in serious trouble!

NNSS Ojo set of 2000. My close friend who I can't mention is a Nigerian Major at this moment. I did a stint in the Liberian conflict. I was stationed in Richmond Virginia - unfortunately, I am not at liberty to discuss the missions but I can give you a couple of the cities I was at.

Impersonation

; you don't say

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Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 3:34am On Dec 18, 2014

abbey621:
Dude do your research on military laws, you are just making me laugh!

Can you tell me the oath every soldier takes before signing up as a Nigerian soldier? Since you want to talk about military laws - I am interested in what you know

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Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 3:29am On Dec 18, 2014

abbey621:
Oh men, can you hear yourself? I'm just laughing cos it's obvious you know nothing about the military world. If you are given a direct order to kill your father, if you disobey you would immediately be arrested and scheduled for a trial. I suggest you stop looking at things from a civilian point of view and do your research on military laws.

Look at this one - I have more hardware at home than most of your military friends have used or handle. You seem to know little of military procedures and laws - go look it up before you embarrass yourself. I was raised in a military family, went to a Navy school, served as a veteran. I will ignore your lack of authority on this subject

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Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 3:26am On Dec 18, 2014

abbey621:
I am being objective, imagine if you were among the soldiers in the middle of a war and 80% of your fellow brothers refused to fight, leaving you vulnerable and susceptible to an invasion by the enemy, would you feel safe?? The military does not operate under the same rules as the civilian world, why can't you guys comprehend this simple fact

Dude - I will not go into a battle without enough ammo and no one should either. They didn't run away; they refused to take an order because they considered it unlawful

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Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 3:23am On Dec 18, 2014

abbey621:
If you want to fight corruption then do it by tackling the lawmakers and the executive level of government. You don't tackle corruption by disobeying a direct order, that disobedience is not only a treasonable offence, it also jeopardizes the entire mission, the enemy could have used that opportunity to infiltrate their base and kill them all. Joining the military is a choice, they all knew the rules and swore an oath, it's not like an office job where you can just quit whenever you feel like it.

Dude - every military man take an oath before joining the army. It's not under all circumstances that you obey and carry out the orders of your superiors. For example - if your superior tell you to go to a village and kill everyone there i.e. kids, innocent women, unarmed men etc - you can decide not to obey that order.

If your officer tells you to go and fight without the proper tools, you can decide not to go and fight. There are military rules of engagement in war. If the order was lawful; you have the right to obey it - if it wasn't; you are not obligated to

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Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 3:18am On Dec 18, 2014

abbey621:
Cannot do that but Google is your best friend, my assertions are based on 2 family members in the Nigerian military and my close friends. This is not the first time mutiny occurred in the military and not the first time such a sentence has been passed down, civilians should stay out of military affairs!

Who pays the military? Is it not your taxes? Who writes their budgets? Dude - try and be objective

Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 3:15am On Dec 18, 2014

thegoodjoehunt3:
It beats me how insubordination (refusing a lawful order) is converted to mutiny and a guilty verdict was passed. It is clear someone above want these young soldiers killed.

(It seems refusing an order in the military equates to mutiny. These guys should be spared. How can they be sent to fight without enough ammunition. That was already a death sentence.)

That is the whole point. How can you ask someone to work when you haven't given them the tools and resources to work? Look at the conflict in Ukraine - the same thing happened. You have Ukrainian soldiers that were go hungry that they had to go to the rebels to get food and medication.

A hungry army, broke army, corrupt army can do little to nothing. We had generals, admirals those days - what we have now is a joke

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Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 3:11am On Dec 18, 2014

abbey621:
Stop spewing rubbish, you know nothing about the military. These men are entrusted with guns and not only protect themselves from the line of fire but also protect their fellow men. If there's no order, no discipline then how can they conquer the enemy. Shooting at your fellow army men is a treasonable offence let alone shooting at your commanding officer. The laws in the military differs from the civilian world, treason, mutiny and vices similar can never be tolerated. While I disagree with the death penalty, the law is the law and they must face the consequences of their actions!

Start with the corruption of military officers. Stealing public funds especially military funds is what treason and mutiny is. How can you give AK 47 with 3 mags i.e 90 bullets to go and fight an insurgency that has more weapons than the army of the Gambia?

I would die for a just cause but not for a stupid cause. These are some of the reasons people will leave the army and support the insurgency even if they don't agree with their ideology. It's terrible to see corruption eating at the core of the Nigerian army where the army can't even provide decent weapons for it's soldiers.

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Politics › Re: Mutiny: 54 Soldiers Sentenced To Death By Firing Squad, 5 Freed by slyfox5555: 3:02am On Dec 18, 2014

Dreambeat:
Too bad.The military profession is not meant for everyone,you either fall in line or you fall out.A very high sense of discipline and obedience is required to be a successful military officer.It is not for the faint hearted.

If only those "officers" earned their promotion like real soldiers. 90% of them can't run a mile nor can they operate 3 different kinds of assault weapons. They rather steal and build mansions than make sure their subordinates have the tools and resources they win to fight this insurgency.

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Islam › Re: ALLAHU AKBAR!!! See What Becomes Of A Woman After Steping On The Qur'an by slyfox5555: 8:10pm On Dec 16, 2014

Me as well

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Virgin Birth Important? by slyfox5555: 10:48pm On Dec 15, 2014

ifeness:
You have been beating about the bush. You have no shred of evidence of your invincible white master/masters.

I hope you get your eyes opened someday. What a waste of energy.

Coming from someone who said Jesus was born on December 25th. Stop embarrassing yourself Bro. Again, learn and move on

Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality Is The Most Disgusting Sin To God by slyfox5555: 10:46pm On Dec 15, 2014

herald9:

The Qur'an permits pedophilia. The following
Qur'anic verse allows sex with pre-pubescent
girls who have not yet menstruated.

Now you see

The Hadiths endorsed it but it's not in the Quran. That was my point

Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality Is The Most Disgusting Sin To God by slyfox5555: 10:00pm On Dec 14, 2014

herald9:
Paedophilia is permitted in Koran...It was practised by Prophet Mohammed and his followers today still committing the crime.

Remember that Governor Yerima and his gang?

In the middle East... the cases of underage marriage is on the increase...

Check this out:

Muslim Statistics on Pedophilia

1. 4 out of 5 Middle-Eastern women are
sexually abused between the ages of
3 and 6 by family members.

2. More than half of all Yemeni girls are
married before reaching the age of
puberty.

3. With more than 3,900 children within
6 months, Indonesia tops the UN
bodies list for child trafficking cases.

4. 2,000 child sex abuse claims in 1 year
at Pakistani Islamic schools, but not
even 1 successful prosecution .

wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia

So you see...It's a normal thing for most Muslims... I pray it doesn't infilitrate Christianity.

The Catholic priest practiced it. I don't expect it's a teaching in Christianity. It is encouraged in Islam; however, I don't see it endorsed in the Koran

Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality Is The Most Disgusting Sin To God by slyfox5555: 11:29am On Dec 14, 2014

FrancisTony:
I'm not a wierdo.

You know man-animal nur make sense nau.

Animals harbour diseases that could be harmful to men if contacted.

Well, they can keep doing it between themselves.

Church service has started. I'm out!
Anti-spambot know that u're wrong.

Which church you dey go? The pastor na gay?

Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality Is The Most Disgusting Sin To God by slyfox5555: 11:28am On Dec 14, 2014

herald9:
I saw the mention too and ignored...you could have done same and focus on your feminism thread...

Lolz Lolz
You mean its not morally right to court?
Lolz search your Bible wella... people have been courting since from time immemorial...

I wonder why you should be calling attraction 'lusting'
If you're against attraction Maybe you should forward your grievance to the Creator for giving us that instinct.
Cause I know without that instinct you wouldn't have been here dancing shoki ontop Gay matter.

I've seen their threads...I came across their crib once...I simply ran for my dear asss.
I know you're saying these cause you haven't come across any yet...
By simply sighting of their thread...you'll feel that churning sensation in your stomach...

Tony,I pray,open your eyes...
Stop arguing blindly...Won't lead you nowhere...
Just because it's accepted in the West shouldn't make it automatically right...

I believe we blacks still got some brains and conscience...let's use them.

You are wasting your Bro. Soon they will tell us pedo.phili.a is normal too and we should accept it

Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality Is The Most Disgusting Sin To God by slyfox5555: 11:25am On Dec 14, 2014

FrancisTony:
My parent gave birth to only me.

He has wasted millions of spèrm that would have produced millions of children.

Bye. I'm done here.

You were done long ago but you have tried worlds over to justify your sexuality. If it was normal; why would anyone complain?

Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality Is The Most Disgusting Sin To God by slyfox5555: 11:24am On Dec 14, 2014

FrancisTony

Did I say God created Adam and Steve.
I'm reminding him that God supports Husband and Wife relationship not boyfriend and girlfriend.

Just the same way God doesn't support homosexuality.

Job 31:11-12 New Living Translation

11 For lust is a shameful sin,
a crime that should be punished.

12 It is a fire that burns all the way to hell.
It would wipe out everything I own.

Una wey go that imaginary hell plenty.

Interesting, a man that sodomises another man quotes the scripture grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality Is The Most Disgusting Sin To God by slyfox5555: 7:05am On Dec 14, 2014

If it's morally right for you to have a girlfriend and your conscience doesn't prick you, I don't see why it should morally wrong for them to be gay. I mean girlfriend, because bible is against lusting-after someone that isn't your wife.

Dude, stop twisting the Bible to support your life-style. The Bible encourages a union between one man and one woman i.e. Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. There is no where in the Bible where it supports homosexuality in anyway or form.

Christianity Etc › Re: Homosexuality Is The Most Disgusting Sin To God by slyfox5555: 7:00am On Dec 14, 2014

FrancisTony

Everything supports them. Bye

Really, so there are gay tendencies in lions, bears, sharks, whales, chimps, dogs and all the species we know? grin

Homosexuality means having an attraction for same sex. Bisexuals can be grouped among.

Stop confusing yourself. A homosexual is different from a Bi-sexual. These are all sexual behaviors. A homosexual is supposedly attracted to the same sex. A bi-sexual is equally attracted to both sexes - A BIG DIFFERENCE!

It doesn't have to be a heterosexual. It can be a lesbian. A gay can't get an erection with a woman and there's no way he can get her pregnant

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That's an interesting theory - gays need the opposite sex to reproduce

. Do you know how stupi.d you sound. You are proving my point. You need someone of the opposite sex irrespective of their sexual preference. Who told you a gay man can't get an erection with a woman? The penis is meant for a woman's vagina and not a man's anus - mother nature is not stupi.d.

There are many cases were gay people become straight and many cases where gay men have children. Homosexuality is a behavior and a choice. I agree that you may have the disposition and proclivity to be attracted to the same sex but you have to decide to go along with it. Here is an interesting article on it by CNN: http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.cooper.360/blog/2007/02/can-people-change-from-gay-to-straight.html

Shey na by force to give birth? As a heterosexual man, if I decide not to give birth, you go beat me? They are helping you control over-population and you're here making a hell of noise.

Ironic isn't it? If your parents held the same view, I wonder if you would be here. And this is the gay message after all - approve of our sexual behavior; family is irrelevant since I enjoy another man's butt-hole where my semen will be pooed out.

Nobody is begging you to accept it. They are begging you to mind your business. You hear?

I care less what you do with your penis and where you put it. If you did it in the closet and didn't advocate for us to accept your life-style; we will not be having this discussion

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Virgin Birth Important? by slyfox5555: 3:47am On Dec 14, 2014

ifeness

Who are the well known critics who admitted there was a Jesus? Did they show you his birth certificate. I have a birth certificate of my parents to proof they are no myth.

Cha - ignorance and stupi.dity on a whole new level. Is it everyone that is born that has a birth certificate? There are thousands of cases in the US and all over the world of people not having birth certificates that we born - have you heard of house births? It is only when these births are officially declared that they are given birth certificates or if those children were delivered in hospitals. That is why there are eye witness accounts. If I ask you to prove to me that you ate dinner at your parents house 10 years ago; how would you do that?

Stop repeating "I claimed Jesus was born on December 25th crap"! Is that not the obvious reason you have a holiday on that day? Stop acting as if i wrote it. Ok if mythical Jesus wasn't born on the 25th of December,then when? You tell me.

Are you deaf? - The Bible never made a claim when he was born. We know he was born some 2,000 years ago but we don't know what day it was on. Roman historians confirm of Jesus's crucifixion - so except you are on another planet or just plain ignorant; then you can continue with your myth mantra. Please show some objectivity. If you want non biblical sources of Jesus existence, consider:

1. First-century Roman Tacitus, who is considered one of the more accurate historians of the ancient world. Please read his account regarding Jesus. He wasn't a Jew or a Christian so there was no need for him to lie
2. Also refer to Josephus account

I have no business with the Jewish version of Horus. My point is simple; Virgin birth is a lie

Jewish version of Horus? Dude - who brought up Horus? You seem to keep going around in circles. A more accurate statement should be - "Virgin birth can't be observed or reproduced with the current knowledge we have". To say it's a lie means you are all knowing and we both know that you have provided ample evidence to show that you are not a subject matter expert on this topic grin

No more reply from me on this useless topic.

Why did you bother in the 1st place. Since all your points have been adequately refuted; you are running away with your tail between your legs. In the future, take time to do some research before you embarrass yourself.

Christianity Etc › Re: Did God Create Evil - Does The Bible Say So? by slyfox5555: 3:24am On Dec 14, 2014

Weah96:
Except darkness is the absence of VISIBLE light only. There are still photons moving around, undetected by the light sensitive cells in our eyes. So technically, there's a lot of light even in pitch black darkness
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I don't disagree. The fact is we can measure light but darkness; we can't. So, where there is no light i.e. where we can't measure light; then darkness exist

There are places in our natural world where darkness is separated from light, by FORCE. Those places are called event horizons. If you find yourself visiting one of these places, don't forget to remember that you're already DEAD. Hahaha.
Interesting ......

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Virgin Birth Important? by slyfox5555: 3:19am On Dec 14, 2014

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So why the 25th? Dont try to lecture me on Christianity. I know all about it and the doctrine Christianity hijacked.

One of the reasons I dislike debating people that are not objective. You claimed Christianity and the Bible said Jesus was born on December 25th; I asked you for proof - you failed to provide one yet you insist he was born on December 25th. If you read the Bible and truly understand Christianity; you will know that the Bible makes no claim on what day Jesus was born. Learn from your mistakes and move on

Jesus is nothing but a Myth, Savior of the world indeed. A PURE Pagan religion.

So far, your premise claiming He is a myth has fallen on it's on claims. Go and research the historical Jesus before you embarrass yourself online. Well known critics of Jesus all admit that He was born, lived and was crucified - now; if that is myth to you - your father and mother are probably myths to you as well grin

Take a chill an enjoy your December 25th Turkey

Turkey is for thanks giving Bros grin

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