slyfox5555:


There is no empirical evidence to suggest people are born as homosexuals. If you say gay people have the disposition or proclivity to the same sex; then that makes sense.

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Yooguyz:


Did you open a new handle just because you wanted to comment on this thread?

slyfox5555:


Simple:

1. The encouragement of homosexual behavior does damage to the institution of marriage between a mother and a father
2. Homosexuality stipends the very existence of human culture i.e. a man and a man can't reproduce neither can a woman and woman reproduce. If they were born homosexuals, why do 90 percent of homosexuals have children from heterosexuals?
3. Homosexuality forces heterosexual to accept their sexuality i.e. If you are gay, that is your cup of tea. Don't ask me to accept it or suggest that the definition of marriage should be changed to encourage your sexual behavior
4. Young kids and children will be exposed to homosexual awareness and as such believe it is normal

I can go on and on. In a free society; homosexuals can choose to love who they want to; that is their choice. Also, in a free society; there is freedom of speech and diversity of opinions.

These are the facts, no one is born a homosexual neither is anyone born a painter or a thief.

1. Dude, if you're scared of your marriage spiralling downwards, do not blame it on gay people. Gay people aren't the cause of the increasing divorce rate.

2. I actually don't need a heterosexual to give me a baby, assuming I need a baby.

3. We aren't forcing you to accept. We are telling you to LEAVE US ALONE! It would be totally ok if you see two women/men kissing and just continue doing whatever it is you were doing, rather than picking up stones to stone them because you FEEL they disgust YOU! TF??

4. I wasn't exposed to the gay awareness before I realised I was gay. Young people that are exposed to gay couples shouldn't have anything to be afraid of since they are straight. Except you feel that the presence of a gay couple in a straight person's life would turn that person gay, which I'd say is utterly stup.id.

In a free society, you don't go on hating people solely because they disgust you/irritate you, despite the fact that their business does not affct you in anyway.

slyfox5555:


There is no empirical evidence to suggest people are born as homosexuals. If you say gay people have the disposition or proclivity to the same sex; then that makes sense.

BrightEye:


'Few' years ago, there were no empirical evidences to suggest many truths found today!

slyfox5555:


Then, until such a time - you can make the claim that people are born gay. Since there is none with the current knowledge we have; it's mis-leading to claim that people are born homosexual

Homosexuality is a normal variant of human sexuâl behaviour. This is not an opinion but a fact.

Homosexual people are a minority by virtue of circumstances of their birth. No research anywhere proved what you're asserting. The only research that comes close is the one that says there are no genes responsible for homosexuality. this is NOT the same as saying they weren't born that way.

Rather, it simply means instead of the genes, something else is responsible, such as the hormones, as is now widely believed. The persistence of epigenetic changes in a mother's womb has been touted as the most likely explanation for a child's sexuäl orientation. If you would read about the hormonal theory of sexuality, you would understand this better.

Your argument here reminds me of those presented by white supremacists back in the day when they tried to use "scientific research" to "prove" that black people are inferior. Yes, there really was such a time when -- just as you are doing today -- people believed blacks were less human. And they had "science" to justify their belief. And might I add that the people who believed this nonsense were in the MAJORITY?

Just live and let's live.

BrightEye:


I find it an indolent behavior to COMPLETELY rely on scientific knowledge, especially on the aspect of mysteries of life, in which each individual human being has the capability to explore through the streaming knowledge of nature that is at his disposal. Science has its own limit, nature doesn't.

slyfox5555:
masonkz



Totally irrelevant; when did I mention divorce and how did it get into this conversation? The definition of marriage has been between a man and a woman. My contention was that we don't need to change that definition to endorse your sexual behavior. I never said you can't love and live with who you want



Interesting! I am assuming you are a man; if you are; without a woman in the picture how can you get the baby? If you are a woman, the same question applies. Even if you decide to adopt - you are bringing heterosexuals into the picture. So, please explain. Also, how did you come about; where you a product of a heterosexual relationship or a homosexual relationship?



Read my post well; you are at liberty to love who you want; that is your cup of tea. I haven't endorsed violence in anyway shape or form against homosexuals. Just don't do 1 million gay march asking for awareness or ask me a wear a T-Shirt to support your life-style. You and I should be able to intelligently talk about it and share our opinions on it.



Really! How dumb can you be? What would a gay biology teacher teach my child about sexuality? My 5 year old niece came from school and asked me what does gay mean. Apparently it was parents teacher day coming up at school and kids where to take a letter to their parents and ask them to come to the school. She asked her friend if her mum and dad would be coming and her friend said that she has two dads. My niece was confused and her friend said that her parents were gay. Now, her mother has to explain to her at 5 who homosexuals are and what they do. Why should we expose our children to such atmosphere at such young ages?



That is the narrative that homosexual try and sell everyone - "straight people hate them". Where in my post have I ever encourage hate or violence against homosexuals?

slyfox5555:


When a scientific claim is made then scientific proof is required. You can't make a scientific claim and say it's true but the proof will be discovered in the future - that is called blind faith

LOL. Seriously dude? All this one for me? hehe.

I don't fancy gay pride parades. It's of no use to me and If I was in any of the countries that do it, I wouldn't attend. I guess they're doing it for same reason that people celebrate black history month. Makes no sense to me.

I mentioned violence cos you said we're trying to make you accept us. And I said it's not just about acceptance. For me, I don't really care about acceptance. I don't put up my sexuality like a billboard for everyone to see (off nairaland of course). What I'd rather want is to be left alone if a straight person finally learns about my sexuality. Go on with your business,, while I go on with mine. I don't care who you're sleeping with as far as it's consensual. Therefore no one should care about mine too.

You may as well tell your niece the truth. No biggie, except you see it as a problem for you, your niece's parents should move her to Nigeria, where gay parents don't exist. Perfect life . Meanwhile, you just don't know whether your biology teacher is gay or not. You only assume he/she is straight. School curriculum is followed irrespective of the teacher's sexuality, till it's otherwise changed.

I'm a product of a heterosexual relationship. So? Did I grow up and decide I wanted to swing the other way? You must understand I'm looking at this from my environmental point of view. I had no influence whatsoever.

As for marriage: Again, how does it affect you if someone else decides to marry his/same sex whom must have also agreed to marry that person?? I fail to understand. Is it the definition that is your problem?

BrightEye:


My assertion is not scientific. I don't think it requres a proof in that manner, same as God's existence can't be proved scientifically.

slyfox5555:


What truth exactly? That is is okay for a man to have inter-course with another man? Dude, we don't even teach kids about sexual intercourse at that age and you want me to teach her about gay homosexuality? This is one of the reason why I say homosexuals want us to swallow their behavior.

Honestly this is all I read. You were the one that brought up the issue of discussing it with your kids. I was surprised and thought you've already started talking to them about sex at 5years of age, that's why I said you might as well tell them the truth about gay. If that's not the case, then no need talking intercourse with them, whether straight or gay.

For everyone that doesn't wanna be tolerant to move down to Nigeria or some other non-tolerant country while we, the gay people, and every other tolerant person can move to those countries that are welcoming. That way you don't have to worry about a damn thing

slyfox5555:


Your assertion was that it's true but haven't been proven yet - am I missing something?

BrightEye:


My assertion was that it is true, and i am convinced it is. I was not forcing anyone to believe it, neither was I claiming it as a golden truth, but rather indirectly imploring everyone to examine this and similar claims carefully, maybe they would come into the conclusion I do without any scientific proof. This is a reality.

FrancisTony:


Herald9 is now hating on what he accused me and some christians to hate.

Hypocrisy101

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

OP, better goan preach outside the world because all these argument, won't heal anything but cause E-brawl.

tartar9:
even if some animals do it you are know comparing yourself to animals shebi,smh.

FrancisTony:

Animals engage in heterosexual sex too.
Does that mean you're an animal?

Poor attempt at being smart.

slyfox5555:


At it's basic level we are all animals. The fact is heterosexual relationships are responsible for the continuation of every society, civilization and almost in all cases in the animal kingdom where there is a male and female.

The fact is this: it is only in humans that homosexuality appears to be rational. The lion, the goat, the dog, the croc, the bear and 1001 different types of animals don't leave the opposite sex to be with the same sex as a trend.

Don't go there. I know what the dude was trying to say- and it means that since there are gay animal, human gays are animalistic, not forgetting that animals practice heterosexuality.

By the way, I think most gay animals are bisexual.

A homosexual man can give birth if wishes.

It's not all heterosexuals that are fertile.

I don't see a reason why what two men are doing in their closet should be your business

slyfox5555:
FrancisTony
Gay animals - are you for real? If homosexuality in animals was normal as heterosexual is - it would be displayed in all species. The only species where it's a trend are humans. In other animals it's an exception not a norm.

Then the case of homosexuality falls apart. If I am attracted to only men why should I choose to be with a woman?

That's an exception and not a decision. The choice of homosexuals having kids is a choice and not an exception. For heterosexuals it's an exception and not a choice.

It's my business when they want to change the definition of marriage to support their behavior. It's my business when I have to teach my 5 year old what homosexuality is when I haven't even taught him what sex is. It's my business when the academic curricula in schools have to be changed to support homosexual behaviors. So, if it was only in your closet - we will not be having this discussion.

herald9:

FrancisTony:

I think you're hell-bent in admitting that lower animals practise homosexuality.
My proof is on 0page of this thread and google would be of help if it's not satisfying.
I'm done here.

A bisexual male is attracted to both male and female. He can impregnate a girl.

A gay male is attracted to only a male. He can give birth through artificial insemination- a situation whereby his spèrm would be inserted in a woman virginä artificially.

Keep ranting.

The last time I checked, heterosexual sex isn't taught in schools.

I wasn't taught that sex is only between a man and woman.

Meanwhile, Nigerian gays weren't screaming for gay marriage

herald9:


Wetin you dey shine teeth for..oya go argue...the way u dey ontop diz gay issue this week is something else...

In your mind you know it's not morally right ...you just wanna argue..Maybe you should get a job at LGBT or whatever.

As for me..I can't put down my foot for something that doesn't rapport with my conscience..No matter how the society is trying to remold it.

This gay thingy is simply out of place... If they shut up and do their thang... I won't have a problem with that..But trying to make us see reasons with them is what I can't stand.

slyfox5555:
FrancisTony

Your cup of tea. Gays want to use any kind of reason to support their life-style even when the facts say otherwise.

Were we talking about bi-sexual or homosexuals? Stop shooting yourself in the foot.

Why does he need a heterosexual woman? Why does he need her egg but doesn't want her vagina? That is even besides the point. And no - numerous men who were once homosexuals turned over to become heterosexuals. So, your theory has holes in it

No vex, it was my fault to expect a proper response from you
You must be living in your closet then
But you were taught biology and reproduction happens only between a male and a female. That is how we sustain and continue our culture and civilization. If you decide to put your penis in another man's ass; that is your cup of tea.

Nigerian, American, European or whatever flavor homosexuality comes in - it makes no difference - heterosexuals or straight people should not be compelled to accept any of person's sexual behavior and painted as intolerant if we want to have an open discussion about it.

Homosexuality doesn't benefit society!

Everything supports them. Bye

Homosexuality means having an attraction for same sex. Bisexuals can be grouped among.

It doesn't have to be a heterosexual. It can be a lesbian. A gay can't get an erection with a woman and there's no way he can get her pregnant

Shey na by force to give birth? As a heterosexual man, if I decide not to give birth, you go beat me? They are helping you control over-population and you're here making a hell of noise.

Nobody is begging you to accept it. They are begging you to mind your business. You hear?

If it's morally right for you to have a girlfriend and your conscience doesn't prick you, I don't see why it should morally wrong for them to be gay. I mean girlfriend, because bible is against lusting-after someone that isn't your wife.