₦airaland Forum

asha 80: forget what u feel what i was infering...answer what i asked before that inferal statement i made.

Why are you waiting for him to answer you? Bringing in quota system to help uplift the educational status of northern Nigeria, whose leaders have ruled for more than 60% of the time, simply means that northern Nigerians are lesser endowed academically. How else can you explain that? They cannot be said to have been marginalized as they have been the leaders of the country most of the time, doling out money as they wished.

mekaboy: I can deal with armed robbers and kidnappers in other countries or parts of the world but not my own home. Charity begins at home they say, let massob start at home , get rid of armed robbery and kidnapping and show ndigbo what biafra will look like. Then we will join them. For now massob has not produced anything meaningful.

They have not even engaged in environmental sanitation. Not even set up a skill acquisition center to equip the youths. All they are doing is looking for who to extort money from.

So you believe anyone can rid any country of kidnappers and robbers? Why has America with all its power and gadgets, not done so?

Neo-XVI:
Obviously you're one of the poorly educated/illiterate people who can't see beyond ethnic, regional and religious persuasions.

At the end of the day, I don't think the country is ready for a south-easterner as president. So at best they'll still end up with a Fashola/Tambuwal if GMB decides to do the right thing. What has GEJ's christianity done for you?

The country is not ready for SE as president but it is ready for two muslims as president? You live in planet Mars, right?

Can you explain to us why the country is not ready for a SE president? Who are those in the country who are not ready for a SE president? You need to convince me.

I am wondering if EL RUFAI and Ribadu got to where they are today by this same quota system.
I am wondering if Chinua Achebe became the most celebrated African Writer by quota system
I am wondering if Soyinka got the Nobel Prize by quota system
I am wondering if Ngozi Okonjo Iweala became the Second in Charge at the WB by quota system.

mekaboy: Lol, Ndigbo we are one oo, anyi bu ofu.




I will not be part of a biafra where kidnappers and armed robbers still exist.

Nwanna, then you will have to show which country (I mean globally) that does not have kidnappers and armed robbers.

InvertedHammer: /
I feel sorry for the Italian police that has to deal with this B.S b/c they were kind enough
to let foreigners into their country.
//

She could have been strangled by an Italian. You never know.

Neo-XVI:
Quota comes up if you have someone who is viewed as a religious fanatic at the head of the ticket. I know we haven't reached the level of sophistication that allows that not to be a consideration, but with Fashola as the lead, it won't be such an important consideration for most folks. The man is not defined by his religion in the way Buhari is.

You still not saying anything.

Afam4eva: Enugu is always different. If there's one thing i've noticed, it is that MASSOB seems to be dominant anywhere you have a lot of pseudo-illiterate traders.

But everything considered, Anambra and Abia and Imo (states where MASSOB is strong) are at a far higher educational advantage than Enugu.

Katsumoto: It has everything to do with the topic. Have you Southerners not dominated (colonized) the Northerners enough as well with education? You already contribute more than 75% of pupils to the unity schools. Do you need for it to be 100%? Similar to how Westerners have colonized you economically and don't need to finish you off. In both cases, there is a safety net. The Europeans can invade you at any point in time and there isn't Bleep all you can do about it. Your response was a poor one.

And the North dominated the south with ruling the country and being in charge of the military, police and the civil service. Yes or no? What safety net did they give in those cases?

Neo-XVI:
So I was discussing with a friend and he brought up this idea that I haven't heard anyone mention before. How about Gov Fashola as the presidential candidate for APC and GMB as the VP?

The more I think about it, the more sense it makes.

PDP will definitely field GEJ. He's lost the support of most of the north. He doesn't have any real foothold in the SW. He was voted in last time out of sympathy, and because most Nigerians don't trust GMB for whatever reason

Fashola will definitely sweep the entire SW. With GMB as vice, the North will be more APC than PDP going by the way they love the man. The big question though is will Buhari accept a vice-presidential position? He clearly has a trust deficit with the south. This hasn't changed. I voted for him last time, but frankly I have grown weary of him myself. His acceptance of a VP position will convey humility, national interest in place of personal ambition, and more people in the south will come to like him. In his first term, Fashola was clearly the best governor and his fame reverberates throughout Nigeria. So I envision that he will get about 25-35% of the votes in the SE and SS. Winning the SW and the North should make it an easy coast for that ticket.

GEJ is still clueless 3 years after taking on the position of president. There is no vision, there is no direction, there are no valid goals and milestones, the man can't even appoint competent people as ministers, and corruption is free for all. One gets the sense that everything is adrift. We need the opposition APC to set aside personal ambitions and field the best combination for the job. Nigeria deserves better and the time is now!

So no quota system in religion? Yo wanna field two Muslims in a religiously divided country as NIGERIA? You are a non starter.

Katsumoto: Still waiting for those who don't support having a safety net to attempt answering my question below.

Your question is quite extreme and has little or nothing to do with the topic. Talk of comparing apples with oranges. And you must know that Europe and America have passed the stage of ammo warfare with Africa. Their economic policies alone are enough troubles for Africa. Africa is already economically colonized by them, including by China. So they do not need to kill you off with weapons.

This topic is worth discussing. It should not be avoided
We either do away with quota system completely, or we apply it to every other thing.

Unity Schools should not mean mediocre schools. The unity schools should be graded (categorized) so that the best from each zone (not necessarily state) will meet at a higher category. Kwara and Benue are doing quite okay, better than or at same level as some southern states. So why not Kwara and Benue students meet with the best from the south, while students from Ebonyi, Ekiti, Bayelsa and Cross River who are doing poorly meet with the poor students from the North at a lower category? That way, the bright students are not dragged back while the challenged students are not overstressed.

Unity Schools should not mean mediocre schools. The unity schools should be graded (categorized) so that the best from each zone (not necessarily state) will meet at a higher category. Kwara and Benue are doing quite okay, better than or at same level as some southern states. So why not Kwara and Benue students meet with the best from the south, while students from Ebonyi, Ekiti, Bayelsa and Cross River who are doing poorly meet with the poor students from the North at a lower category? That way, the bright students are not dragged back while the challenged students are not overstressed.

fados4sure: My friend, stop spreading rumour... That incidence happened in Bilbao in Spain not in Italy

In which language ''Carabinieri'' (embossed on the police cars) the same as ''police''? Let's see how much of Europe you know.

wendieposh: Cos she's colored she's Nigerian? Na wa o

Are you sure you are even Nigerian?

timbros: So OP, how do you know its a Nigerian lady?

Did you listen to the video when you watched it? What accent did you hear? What native language was spoken by the black people in the video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV0YD9C4-vM

Gricignano (Caserta). A woman of color, apparent age of 30 years, was found dead in the industrial area between Aversa and Gricignano, near the bicycle factory Morris. The body was naked and without documents. The body was naked and without documents. It is not yet clear the dynamics of what appears to be a murder. Beside the body, lying on the ground in a field, were found two knives, clean, no stains of blood. At first glance, the corpse did not show visible traces of violence or injuries from sharp weapons or firearms. The woman, however, may have been strangled.

Ethnic Quota For Nigerians Is Challenged
By JAMES BROOKE, Special to the New York Times
Published: November 06, 1988

At the age of 11, Adeyinka Badejo is learning the hard way about affirmative action, Nigerian style.

The daughter of an eminent political science professor here, Miss Badejo hoped last month to win admission to a Nigerian Unity School - a Government-financed prep school for top universities here and abroad.

To Miss Badejo's dismay, she discovered that several of her sixth-grade classmates scored lower than she did on a national test, but that they won admission to the prestigious boarding school system. In this West African nation where virtually everyone is of the same race, the difference is ''state of origin'' - often a code phrase in Nigeria for tribe.

Miss Badejo scored 293 on a 400-point test - three points below the cutoff for girls from Ogun state, a southern state largely populated by members of the Yoruba tribe. If she had been born to parents from Kano state, the northern heartland of the Hausa and Fulani tribes, she would have sailed into a Unity School with a score as low as 151. 'Federal Character' Policy
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Miss Badejo's rejection was a result of Nigeria's policy of ''reflecting the federal character.'' Through nationally mandated quotas, this policy is intended to insure that Nigeria's disadvantaged tribal groups have equal access to higher education and to Government employment.

Femi Badejo, Adeyinka's father and a professor at the University of Lagos, decided to sue Nigeria's Minister of Education on the grounds that the Unity School's admission policy constitutes discrimination.

In Nigeria, Africa's most populous nation and one of its most diverse, the case has attracted attention comparable to lawsuits challenging affirmative action programs in the United States.

Late last month, Nigerian reporters packed the three wooden press benches in Court 19 of Lagos High Court as opposing lawyers in black robes and white wigs argued their positions.

During a recess, Mr. Badejo, clad in a yellow dashiki-style shirt favored by the Yoruba people, limited his comments to saying: ''There is no comparison between affirmative action in the United States and 'federal character' in Nigeria.''

For Nigeria's southerners, Mr. Badejo's case has become a minor cause celebre, and several southern educators and politicians have sharply attacked the 10-year-old quota system. 'Unjust Discrimination'

''I think it's unjust discrimination,'' Lateef Kayode Jakande, a former governor of Lagos State, told a Nigerian reporter. ''The way out is to encourage the underdeveloped ones to catch up, rather than to bring down the developed ones.''

In Ibadan, the nation's largest city and one that is largely Yoruba, Dapo Ajayi, a high school principal, said the national quota system discourages southern students who see it as reverse discrimination.

Support for the federal character policy comes from Nigeria's north. The northerners, most of them Muslim, long resisted Western-style education first introduced by Britain, the colonial power here until 1960. Nigerians on the Atlantic coast -Yoruba in the west and members of the Ibo tribe in the east - sent their children in large numbers to British colonial schools.

Today, almost 30 years after independence, a new generation of Nigerians bears the stamp of this colonial inheritance. In the test Miss Badejo took last September, the cutoff point was set by the score attained by the 500th-ranking boy or girl in each state.

Cutoff scores for students from states largely populated by the Ibo or the Yoruba ranged from 280 to 303. Cutoff scores for students from northern states with high Hausa and Fulani populations ranged from 151 to 252.

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/06/world/ethnic-quota-for-nigerians-is-challenged.html

Meanwhile================,


2013 National Common Entrance Examination Cut-Off Marks Released (State-by-State)

The Federal Ministry of Education has released the cut-off marks on State-by-State basis of the just concluded 2013 National Common Entrance Examination for admission processes into Federal Unity Colleges nation-wide.
Parents are advised to check the results of their wards which have been posted on notice board of all Unity Colleges throughout the Federation.
Pupils that scored above the cut-off marks based on their state of origin are eligible for admission on merit.
Abia - Male(130) Female(130)
Adamawa - Male(62) Female(62)
Akwa-Ibom - Male(123) Female(123)
Anambra - Male(139) Female(139)
Bauchi - Male(35) Female(35)
Bayelsa - Male(72) Female(72)
Benue - Male(111) Female(111)
Borno - Male(45) Female(45)
Cross-Rivers - Male(97) Female(97)
Delta - Male(131) Female(131)
Ebonyi - Male(112) Female(112)
Edo - Male(127) Female(127)
Ekiti - Male(119) Female(119)
Enugu - Male(134) Female(134)
Gombe - Male(58) Female(58)
Imo - Male(138) Female(138)
Jigawa - Male(44) Female(44)
Kaduna - Male(91) Female (91)
Kano - Male(67) Female(67)
Kastina - Male(60) Female(60)
Kebbi - Male(9) Female(20)
Kogi - Male(119) Female(119)
Kwara - Male(123) Female(123)
Lagos - Male(133) Female(133)
Nassarawa - Male(58) Female(58)
Niger - Male(93) Female(93)
Ogun - Male(131) Female(131)
Ondo - Male(126) Female(126)
Osun - Male(127) Female(127)
Oyo - Male(127) Female(127)
Plateau - Male(97) Female(97)
Rivers - Male(118) Female(118)
Sokoto - Male(9) Female(13)
Taraba - Male(3) Female(11)
Yobe - Male(2) Female(27)
Zamfara - Male(4) Female(2)
FCT Abuja - Male(90) Female(90)

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/77394-2013-national-common-entrance-examination-cut-off-marks-released-state-state.html

ujoinme: Did you guys notice that the cut off for Akwa ibom was as high as 123 yet i know a lot of folks here would swear that akwa ibom cut off should be 2 their cut off was higher than that of 25 states!

AKS used to be low but they are now coming up and will go even higher soon.

Abali1: Some pretend not understand the logic behind QUOTA SYSTEM. I doubt that very much. If you support quota system, why not Rotational presidency?
Why then are we opposing people who believe that GEJ should be allowed to serve out his time, afterall his region produces the OIL?
Why do we even bother if he can deliver on the Job?

Precisely the point. If I am from Gombe (or any other northern state) and I get into Fed school with a cut off of 2 to rub shoulders with those who scored 130 and above from SE, why would an incompetent (even though he is not) GEJ not be allowed to rule Nigeria? Why would Igbos be prevented from ruling?

I just read about the Unity school cut off marks and see how people twist arguments in favor of quota system. So I ask why would you support quota system and not rotational presidency? They are both based on the same principle of letting each person/region have the opportunity to do something

Maria Sokenu, former People's Bank Head, was killed in this air crash and her body was not recovered. She is from Ogun State and her remains was eaten by her own people.

Nigeria: 60 Feared Killed In Another Ibadan Torture Chamber
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Nigeria: 60 Feared Killed in Another Ibadan Torture Chamber
Sunday, February 24, 2008 - Ola Ajayi Ibadan

ABOUT sixty people were said to have died and buried in a newly-discovered illegal detention camp in Ojoo area of Ibadan.

This brings to 62 the number of people alleged to have been tortured to death by the founders of the three illegal detention camps discovered so far in the ancient city. Nine suspects have been arrested. Acting on a tip-off, men of the Special Anti Robbery Squad (SARS) stormed the camp on Friday and rescued 92 victims including children who have allegedly spent many years there. There were bruises all over their bodies. Among them were six girls who were alleged to have been sexually abused.

When Sunday Vanguard spoke with some of the inmates, they alleged that the prime suspect, Mohammed Olore, who claimed to be an Islamic cleric, only used the school to cover up, adding that he engaged in selling parts of those who died among them to influential people who patronized him. They pointed out that at least two to three people died within a month through torture and they were always taken to Sasa Cemetery for burial by the 'cleric' who later removed their parts and sold them.

Sunday Vanguard also gathered that some people including a mobile policeman from Arowomole in Ogbomoso were kidnapped and detained at the camp. The arrest of the prime suspect and his collaborators almost led to a full-blown confrontation between the police and loyalists of the suspects.

Oyo State police commissioner, Prince Udom Ekpoudom, while parading eleven suspects in Ibadan, in connection with the case, said "the experience at the scene was unbelievable and the treatment given to their captives, 90 per cent of them, was dehumanizing. Six of the hostages who are females complained that they were subjected to series of intimate acts against their wish. It was also discovered that illegal abortions were carried out on pregnant inmates in the camp. It was a situation where human beings were shrunk to skeletal frame with severe burns and rashes.

Grievous inhuman treatment usually resulted in multiple deaths of the inmates who were subsequently buried without any report to the police. The hostages in unison confessed that bodies of deceased inmates were usually eaten by their captors."

The police boss, an assistant inspector general of police, AIG, confirmed that some influential people had been pestering him to release the suspects arrested earlier at Olomi in connection with illegal detention but he would not be cowed into releasing them without being tried by the court. But the prime suspect in the latest torture chamber, denied all the allegations, saying they were made to disparage his person.

He stated that "the policemen came to our Olore Islamic School at Ojoo and arrested me and my students. We don't kill in our place as alleged. The motive for establishing the school, he stated, was to heal numerous people who are mentally-deranged. Also, we teach them Quran."

On the allegation of torture, he confessed that those who misbehaved were beaten but said none of them died except the two who were sick and taken to their parents. "We also beat them when they escaped. Somebody yet to be cured of insanity but ran away would be beaten when caught. The allegations they were leveling against me are false.

I did not beat anybody to death. All they are saying is just to implicate me. They are saying that just to paint me black. The water and the bones that were said to have been taken from the bodies of those that died should be taken to the doctors for examination to ascertain whether it is true or not. If anybody is sick, we hand him over to his parents to take care of him. Two of them died in the custody of their parents."

One of the suspects, Sherif Salami, who was alleged to have killed more than fifteen inmates, also denied the allegation, saying they were unfounded and malicious. According to him, "they are lying. They brought me too to the place just like any of them. What they are saying is to implicate me so that they can be released. This is my eighth year in this school." When asked why all the inmates were accusing him of having killed about fifteen people, he noted that it was because they did not like him since he was always punishing them when they erred. "We beat them when they erred. It is a lie that some people died. Anytime any of them fell sick, his parents were invited to come and treat him."

The suspects who are helping the police in their investigations, besides Olore and Salami, areDauda Atanda, Mohammed Adeyemi, Yusuff Owolabi, Ismail Balogun Lukman Olalekan, Alfa Taye Ogunlofin and Adeola Adeniyi. Among the callers at the police station yesterday were the Are Musulumi of Yorubaland, Alhaji Azeez Arisekola, and the former Commissioner for Justice in the administration of Senator Rashidi Ladoja, Barrister Adebayo Shittu.
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