₦airaland Forum

FlyoruB:
Guy, you need to quit this your obsession with Tinubu because you just dey give yourself unnecessary headache. You are obviously a Yoruba secessionist, that's all fine and well, but until you figure out a way to get your 'Oduduwa Republic', politics and its inherent struggle for power will not cease in Nigeria, and the Yorubas that choose to play it in accordance with the 'One Nigeria' ethos are not any less Yoruba than you are (irrespective of how you feel about that).

If secession was so easy an objective to accomplish, the igbos would be living in Biafra before now, considering how much sacrifice they've devoted to the enterprise. Yet, in spite of all of that, their political class have not stopped functioning as bona-fide Nigerians and are even scheming to have one of theirs as president of the country. So why then can't you Yoruba secessionists agitate for your Republic in peace without dragging Yoruba politicians that insist on playing mainstream politics in the meantime?

Let me put it to you right now that if Yorubas pull out of Buhari's government today, the igbos in APC would readily take their spot, and heaven will not fall. Yes, I am talking about the same igbos that have been disturbing cyberspace with their Biafra 2.0 agitation for decades, yet on ground they are still going about their businesses all over Nigeria as of nothing dey happen.

Like my guy LegendHero already said, if you people like, you can cry and wail from now till tomorrow, but hear this and listen good, 2023 elections will come to pass (the certainty of that happening is as sure as the rising and the setting of tomorrow's sun), and a new president would emerge, with or without Yoruba input.

Since you, as a secessionist, are not interested in who emerges as the next president of Nigeria, that's very ok, but abeg allow those that care about the political relevance and future of Yorubas within Nigeria to play Nigeria politics as they see fit.

If Tinubu runs for presidency, you and your likes can decide not to even vote for him sef. It won't be the first time that such would be happening anyway. Afterall, OBJ didn't get the Yoruba vote in '99. But get off your high horses with the mentality that you are more yoruba than some yoruba politicians whom have empowered and done more for their region and fellow kinsmen than your likes ever will.

Mikecold:
Obaseki is watching carefully, he can't act now until his supreme Court case clears (these demons with the Sharia jihadist don't mind removing him for ize iyamu which would do their bidding)

It is better he plays calm for the good of Edo in general while he unleashes afterwards.

Trust me he was one of the governors that kicked against Ruga.


It is the Oba that has done political that is my surprise, he has nothing to loose if he comes all out and galvanize the people.

If buhari makes pemp on his authority, Benin would revoult which we all want.

Instead he is playing political correctness as a member of Fulani quota royal fathers of Nigeria

T9ksy:
The same reason why the Alafin of oyo was silent about the atrocities going in Ibarapa, oyo state

The same reason why Aketi back-peddled on his earlier ultimatum to fulani headsmen in ondo state.

The reason is simple and not so far-fetched; self-preservation.

Our so-called traditional and political leaders don't really give a sh...it about us, as long as they and their extended family members are settled, financially. They are aware, the nation will soon implode and as such, they want to siphon as much of our collective wealth as they can, before the whole country goes belly up. Nigeria is broke and its just a matter of time before it goes into "liquidation".

Just as an example: do you know, the seriki of Igangan who had been tormenting the people of Ibarapa area for almost 2 decades was also the kidnappers intermediary and an appointee of the same Alafin of oyo?

One of the herdsmen that left igangan following Chief sunday Igboho's quit order was found in yewa village in ogun state. The villagers, having heard what transpired between the seriki and the people of igangan refused to allow him stay in their village. The herdsmen were 3 in number and their leader, one scrawny-looking guy said, they had the alafin's blessing to relocate in the village. Lo and behold, the man then made a call to the alafin. Same way the seriki have a direct line to the IGP, in abuja!

NwaNimo1:
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LegendHero:
So what is the effect of what they are saying? Has it stopped Fulanis from killing or has it stopped Igboho from dealing with the Fula herdsmen? What can you actually achieve without power? I will stan someone that work underground and get the work done than someone speaking and shouting in the media without solution at sight.


What influence did Tinubu have in the federal scene? Is he your president, governor, senator, or Buhari chief of staff? What I am asking you is that you can't get anything done without power. Obasanjo have spoken and spoken about this, what does it change? Did Buhari deploy the soldiers yet?


Yes you are right about Igboho BUT he is a product of their inaction and NOT silence. Enough of issuing statements and setting up meeting, what we need is result. Even the Northerners are battling with bandits and daily death and onw would be stupid if one think issuing statement or speaking up alone will be what will clear the Fulani herdsmen atrocities in the west.

What I just detest is singling out one man who is not an elected authority as scapegoat. We have VP, 6 governors, senators, speaker, house of rep members, minister of interior, and etc. But as usual Tinubu must be blamed even for things beyond his capacity.


How are you any better than the leaders? I have studied Nigeria for too long to know that the followers are as useless as the leaders. If any of us become governor tomorrow, we might change our orientation and become just like them abi how will you explain the fact that there is no sane person among the whole 36 governor?


LOL. Cele n tan e, o n tan Kandu. Well it's not by mouth, tell us what you are doing for the said freedom and stop all this audio nonsense.

If we leave the freedom of the Yoruba people to folks like you that can't even communicate a clear path to success, then we are doomed.

LegendHero:
Again, you said nothing meaningful.

Presidency and politics is a different issue and if you want to speak about politics let me know so I can engage you as such.

We were talking about issues affecting the yorubas as a whole and the Fulani herdsmen attrocities but here you are inserting Tinubu and etc into the discussion.

Now lets talk about Tinubu. Most of you folks say he is useless and shouldn't be called a leader, you abuse him daily and put all the problem of the Yoruba nation on his neck. Then when you are in political trouble, you folks go back and look to Asiwaju to speak for you. Does that even make sense?

Now you have 5 SW governors, we have ministers of Yoruba origin, we have the VP in Osinbajo that are close to power but yet you are all fixated on this single man Tinubu.

You all get happy that Buhari betrayed Tinubu and severe ties with him. Fine, then why are you looking up to the same Tinubu tp help you talk to Buhari? Does Buhari even listen to his wife or you think that man look like someone that know anything?

Now you same directionless folks will be here shouting Fulanis are killing because they have a Fulani president. Then when you have a strong southerner that can wrestle power from the Fulanis, you condemn them and call them Fulani slaves then on the election day the Fulani wins again and you start another 4 years of wailing. Does that even make any sense?

I don't care whether Igboho abuse them or not, it is his right to free speech and he can do what he wants in as much as he is doing it for the Yoruba nation.

I have a question tho:
If Tinubu speaks up, what will be the effect?

Will Buhari suddenly stop being deaf and sent soldiers to evict all Fulani herdsmen or the military will suddenly follow Tinubu order and start shooting Fulanis at sight. You say a man is useless but yet look to him for leadership, does that even make any sense?

Ladiesdoctor:
Abeg Yoruba should not disturb us with their stupid crocodile tears.
Yoruba insulted anybody that refused to support BUHARI candidacy in the previous elections.
They said BUHARI is their messiah.

Now, you have your BUHARI!

From today, Yoruba should stop disturbing us about the rubbish that Hausa Fulani is doing in their land.

Nonsense.

LegendHero:
Thank you for vindicating me with your reply. Like I always say, your reply always lack substance for follow up engagements.

I asked you a question in my former post based on the context of your argument
"Could you tell me in clear terms how other regions are prepared for war?"

Well I am also one of the Yorubas in diaspora and you don't even know what help me or folks like me are rendering to the cause. Mind you, both Yorubas in diaspora and those at home are lending their help so stop according too much importance to those in diaspora.

Now stay on course and stop deviating. Could you please answer my question?

LegendHero:
A lot of you just come online and spit nonsense while waiting for ignorant fellows like you to like and share and you withdraw back to the comfort of your room and laugh.

Tell me any region with a more coordinated cooperative action spearheaded by their government that did better than the SW.

Our governors are the first to damn the situation and create a joint regional security network and they are the first to collectively ban open grazing as a region.

Hear this, Nigeria is a country with laws and you won’t expect the governors that swore to defend the constitution shouting on the internet that all Fulanis should be shot at sight.

Even if that is their plan, it has to be underG using guys like Igboho and etc.

You staffoforanyan have a low self esteem and always parrot nonsense online daily without no direction.

To make it worse, you keep mentioning me without no meaningful discourse to engage in. Please mention me only when you want to discuss something meaningful and stop all this usual low self esteem comments of yours!

Could you tell me in clear terms how other regions are prepared for war?

Fahdiga1:
Our doors will always be open to strangers. we are accommodators and that's part of our age long culture. Igboho is a known trouble maker who wants to deceive our youths to abandon what we are known for which is accepting people from different tribes but we are happy that he failed woefully. welcome to Oyo Seriki Fulani

Mysticwebb:
If you have carefully read this, you will see they never mentioned prosecuting the killer and destructive herdsmen. Instead they stylishly warned never to retaliate reminding that war doesn't solve problem.
That is how hypocritical this group is.
Also notice how they suggesting the Federal and State government should use public fund to fund Fulani herdsmen private business.
No Southern State should pay Fulanis money to buy land.
The SW, SE and SS in the north were not given money to buy the land they are occupying there. Why then are Fulanis desiring to be treated differently? Are they destroying and killing people so money will be given to them to buy land?

35824L:
At least they are human beings. PDP that bring ghosts from the dead to give them victory nko. Have they forgotten how common it was back in the day when no body will come out to vote and INEC will announce PDP winner with millions of votes? How did Wike win his election in 2015 with 1.7 million votes in a cultist and violence dominated state like Rivers where people hide in their homes on election day?

Obamaofusa:
You mean Yorubas should be paying them 100,000 naira like you SE cowards?