₦airaland Forum

Zakkyoz: North is not accusing anybody but the Australian mediator. El rufai merely repeated what the mediator has said. Please try and read between the lines. ok?

Now answer this question

thwarrior72: The yeye negotiator was merely rephrasing what the north & boko haram to him, which I called diversionary tactics, besides, he is a mere negotiator & not investigator.
Let me ask u a simple question, as a northerner & a muslim....if I as a Christian-easterner who u resented somuch approach u & give u money to bomb ur family will u accept it & do so?

Kk4: Oga, I can say I'm 9ft tall and have wings. If nobody can prove I'm not 9ft tall and I don't have wings then I'm 9ft tall and have fricking wings, yes? Get your facts right chief

Gbam let the Australian guy provide evidence of his interraction with Jona and BH.

Obiagelli: bring where? abeg i get other things to do.

Let me tell you about the future if Nigeria survives disintegration.
Very soon Northern minorities will be liberated and the future of the Igbos Yorubas and Hausas will be determined by their relationship with the minorities. Continue resistance offered to the minorities will only stir up anti-yoruba sentiments which will cause you guys a lot.
2011 election and the confab should be an eye opener. The minorities are already stress out by incessant killings and their faith in one Nigeria shattered by the opposition experienced by Jona.
So help your people by rejecting the urge to spite JOna

Obiagelli: lol, its now a case of they don't give a damn about gubernatorial election in Anambra, tell me another story.

You can't compare it with the joy of seeing a person who will wipe away your tears.
Let me advice you and your tribes men, in politics learn how to acknowledge your mistake and say sorry. It will go a long way in helping you breakdown resistance. Igbos acknowledged how their elites marginalised the minorities which helped them repent of their sins and today we are reaping the benefits.

Sincere9gerian: Those searching for sponsors of Boko Haram have embarked on an endless and futile endeavour going by the activities of the group so far.

Here is a report by Reuters on how Boko Haram sources the funds for its operations

I think what we have are sympathisers and supporters of Boko Haram who provide support to the activities of the group, on ground and online, through subtle means. Besides, Boko Haram is an ideology and as such, if I believe in Boko Haram, I can provide support for its activities even from the comfort of my living room

Zakat paid in mosques, local traders kiosks hawkers beggars business men all over Nigeria and as usual politicians.

Obiagelli: Google will not show you inec's website? Should i bring election sheets to you?

Pls bring

Obiagelli: rigged again? Anyway you have not addressed the numbers i gave you showing how gej rigged 2011 in the SE.

1) So Ojukwu's senatorial election was not rigged. Pls tell me something.
2) Igbos might not give a damn about governorship election. But any Federal person who is pro-Igbo will always get the votes of those Igbos who don't even like politics.
That singular act of Jona giving an Igbo man Chief Of Army Staff in 2010, surprised the Igbos that an Ijaw could forgive Igbos. As the bible teaches " Feed your enemies be good to them. This will cause them to repent of their thoughts towards you."

Obiagelli: how did Ojukwu loose senatorial elections?

It was rigged out of fear that he would rise again. Am I lying.?

Obiagelli: you can only rig elections where you are popular, gej got 1.14 million votes in Anambra in 2011
While the total number of votes cast in Anambra 2014 election is 442, 242. Tell me this is not rigging.

Btw Ojukwu and OBJ who do Igbos love the most and who won more votes illegally in the SE in 2003 election.?

dealslip: If you follow my stance on this topic, I have been preaching that, let the appropriate quarters do their job while we support them with concrete evidence, if we have any. I have not judged anybody, I am only telling my fellow Nigerians to give peace a try. The civil wars fought has achieved nothing. All I have been seeing here is Biafra this, Igbo that, Northerners this, Southerners that. For how long are we going to do this. Repeating history over and over again and still not learning. We ask Jonathan to abide by the rule of law, yet we sabotage his efforts in the shadows cast by tribalism and pseudo - brotherhood that can be bought with money. While protecting our brotherhood, we also jump to the religious section to defend our 'gods'. We now turnaround to ask 'God' for intervention yet disobey every single principles he laid don for us. I am not a tribalist and I would be objective at all times so help me God.

Since you sound spiritual, answer these few questions.
1) Have you asked God to tell you why BH exist.?
2) Have you asked God to tell you why BH are prevailing.?
3) Have you asked God the purpose he allowed Jona to become the president since he taught us that power comes from him alone.?
4) What did God tell you.?

agabaI23: Well We shall see

My brother, BH is the standing army raised to support any failed Northern coup. Please study the genesis of Ivory coast civil war.
As I speak to you, this guys are hatching a post election coup. Nigerians don't understand how desperate these guys are.

Obiagelli: there was a structure to ride on in the north east,
Btw the pdp have building such structures in the south west, why do we have ferma task force in lagos and not other state? Opc was on the verge of getting protection contract from the FG but they made a U turn for UPN.

Did OBJ burnt the country before winning his second term.? No
If Jona wants to rig the election, he doesn't need to burn down the North-East. You failed to realise through your geography and history that the Northern minorities wants fresh air.
BH is an army nuctured to seize power by force in like of the Ivorien style. In 2015 when GEJ wins the election, they win plan a coup and if it fails, the coup plotters will call upon the people to swell the ranks of BH.

kettykin: How on Earth will Ihejirika , a chirstian , an Igbo and what the muslims call an Infidel be sponsoring Boko Haram that is bent on killing Infidels in their domain and converting their Domain to a 5th Century enlave.

The problem is not really that Boko Haram accused Ihejirika but their flawed thinking which in every respect shows how flawed their reasoning and logic has been all these while

The problem is not their thinking but strong desire to kill Igbos who they now see as political threat. Remember how they have being attacking Igbo elites since 2012.

mikeansy: Could it also be that the minorities in the north are being purnished for forming new political alliances and making progress on their own?

Yes it is very possible. The truth is that this people wants power at all cost and are ready to wage war for it.

agabaI23: Well I am oneof those who believes that it is still possible to tame them. If the tamil tigers were rounded up and disarmed, then I think anything is possible

Yes they can be tamed if the president is not hindered by enemies of democracy.

dealslip: Defending your Kinsmen will never solve any issue in Nigeria. Defending the truth even if it will affect your Kinsmen is what is of utmost importance here. We have been defending our tribes since 1966 and we are actually getting worse than what we were in 1966 because we choose to place lies above truth and brotherhood above justice. In all of this, we have missed the purpose of God for our lives. We make things complicated for the president yet accuse him of been clueless. All Men are incurable sinners and are not better than each other.

We all raise up Holy hands in Churches and Mosques yet make blood curdling statements every day. As a man thinks in his heart so is he.

What EasternLeopard said is right. The bible said, we should not pass judgement until we hear from the other party. Do you blame the Igbos for defending one of theirs when it was similar instance like this that lead to the Nigerian Civil War.

agabaI23: You are very right but what if they think no one can undo them now as in they are fully established and not even the supposed sponsors can dismantle them like the reporter alluded to in his story?

The fact is, BH has come to stay. Jona will continue to 2019. I pity the inhabitants of NE whose lives will be shattered by the time Jona leaves power.

Obiagelli: is it also possible that someone does not want elections to hold in that region, since its an opposition stronghold.

SouthWest is also APC stronghold. So why is it not happening in the SouthWest.

thwarrior72: I never believed u are this gullible until now......sophisticated people indeed

Truly sophisticated indeed
Some sections of Nigeria are genocidal
Imagine Tinubu telling his supporters in Osun state governorship rally that GEJ is behind the kidnap of chibok girls.

chi4ik: Instead of all this pastors to live a missionary life, they ar busy acquiring wealth. Remember wat Jesus told d rich man that begged to follow him $ Jesus ask d rich Man sale all ur properties, 4get about everything U have $ fellow me. But T.B Joshua is trying by helping d less- privileged. That is Y I love Catholic Church $ their Rev Fathers $ Rev Sisters; they left their Family, business, No wife, No Husband, No children just to serve God $ live d life that Christ lived here on Earth. Catholic Church has different kind of priest, Missionary Priest, Holy Ghost Prist, diocesan Priest, the Monks that lives in d monerstry all through their lives etc. They help d poor, the needy, the less privileged, d disabled tru so many societies/ministries in the Church. Note; money is good as a man of God in other to carry out ur responsibilities very well but not this one this pastors ar having here.

Pls can you remember 10 persons or families your local catholic Church had established financially that are able to feed themselves without relying on regular church contributions for survive. THE PROBLEM IS NOT WEALTH BUT THE MOTIVE FOR WEALTH.

Bokoharam: I guess Jesus Christ was "to lazy to invest into real businesses...." You answer the question. I refer you to my comment a few lines up. God bless you and open your eyes to the real Gospel of Jesus Christ, devoid of Mammon and riches.

. Jesus had only 3.5years to complete His mission so he had no time for business activity. Now answer this question. If an unemployed graduate approaches you for financial assistance in order to start up a business since jobs are scarce , how will you assist him if you are a poor pastor. My son the problem is not wealth but the motive for wealth.

" MY PEOPLE PERISH FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE " Bible.

The secret behind their wealth is not really based on the contributions of the church members but on the accumulation of numerous little investments made over the years . So many Nigerians are to lazy to invest into real businesses when they are favoured with a nice source of income only to blame witches, wizards, government and relatives for their misfortune when their wealth diminished or unable to sustain them."