₦airaland Forum

TayserMahri:
Show me where they counted as you said. You just gave me an NGO website based in the UK. The same NGOs I warned you about.

They did the count and the record was kept. The estimated 250k inhabitant was in reference to the African Population and Health Research Center (APHRC). And this guys were base in Nairobi Kenya.

vannessa7:
Imagine because of importation, our industry remains a midget, Aba textile mills, Ikeja textile mills, Bata, etc are some of the victims of this imported goods,

its just the same as taking food out of the mouth of your brother anytime we import foreign goods we can produce here, so many families rendered poor when their breadwinner is retrenched due to company fold up, we enrich outsiders at our own expense, we are like their sales officers, we mop up our money and hand it over to them while our farmers and other producers are forced to remain poor and small,

This is where we need to be patriotic. This have a positive impact in our economic aspects. It gives way for strong currency and promote our GDP.

TayserMahri:
By who? Only NGOs claim to know the exact number which they massively exaggerate to milk money from donors. Kibera would have to be teeming with insanely tall skyscrappers to hold that much people. And the Kenyan census keeps proving NGOs wrong every time.

I suggest you look at this article : Kibera's missing millions.

And I told you the estimated 170k was for 2009 population census. This is 2019 and it was counted for 250k for the Kibera slum dwellers only. and roughly 2.5m accros the 200 slum communities in Nairobi.
I gave this earlier:

https://www.kibera.org.uk/facts-info/

TayserMahri:
For the last time, and I suppose mature Kenyans to ignore you from now henceforth, Kibera CONSTITUENCY was found to be 185,000 people in the recently concluded nationwide digital electronic census (2019). Kibera SLUM is a tiny spec within (or inside) Kibera CONSTITUENCY. Kibera constituency is 12.1 km² and Kibera slum is 2.5 KM².

Basically, Kibera slum is 20 % of Kibera constituency by land. The rest 80 % of Kibera constituency is a proper middle class area with golf courses and etc. If you've seen the famous aerial photos of kibera showing the divide that exists between the rich and poor in Nairobi then you get what am talking about. I have posted it below. Everything in this area is known as Kibera, and the population of 185,000 people includes all these people from the middle class areas to the slum itself. I dont know the exact population of the slum portion itself, but its definitely smaller than the total sum of 185,000. Possibly less than 100,000. I dont know! Unfortunately the Kenyan census taking exercise doesnt discriminate based on residence. We cant have a census that says, Ok, in Kibera constituency we have x people living in the slum proper and y people living in the middle class areas. But Kibera slum cannot be larger than the sum of its parts!

Just take a view.

TayserMahri:
For the last time, and I suppose mature Kenyans to ignore you from now henceforth, Kibera CONSTITUENCY was found to be 185,000 people in the recently concluded nationwide digital electronic census (2019). Kibera SLUM is a tiny spec within (or inside) Kibera CONSTITUENCY. Kibera constituency is 12.1 km² and Kibera slum is 2.5 KM².

Basically, Kibera slum is 20 % of Kibera constituency by land. The rest 80 % of Kibera constituency is a proper middle class area with golf courses and etc. If you've seen the famous aerial photos of kibera showing the divide that exists between the rich and poor in Nairobi then you get what am talking about. I have posted it below. Everything in this area is known as Kibera, and the population of 185,000 people includes all these people from the middle class areas to the slum itself. I dont know the exact population of the slum portion itself, but its definitely smaller than the total sum of 185,000. Possibly less than 100,000. I dont know! Unfortunately the Kenyan census taking exercise doesnt discriminate based on residence. We cant have a census that says, Ok, in Kibera constituency we have x people living in the slum proper and y people living in the middle class areas. But Kibera slum cannot be larger than the sum of its parts!

You have been given the figure of the slum dwellers in Kibera stop exaggerating.

samorobo:
They love denying it and consoling themselves with makoko or better still rvp will shout integrated slum.. Nairobi is a cesspool and I can name all their integrated slum.....I am a professor in Nairobiology

I gave them 2018 fact they keep referring me back to 2009 reports this is where the headache is.

kikuyu1:
Nigga, those were the official census results! Do you even know how the results were acquired and compile? Has Naij ever done a proper head count?
WTF am I even talking to you!?

Get my message again
There are approximatly 2.5 million slum dwellers in about 200 settlements in Nairobi representing 60% of the Nairobi population and occupying just 6% of the land. Kibera houses about 250,000 of these people. Kibera is the biggest slum in Africa and one of the biggest in the world.

Many organisation had already confirm the report.

Kazikazi:
In today's world,building a city without skyscrapers should be a criminal offense. People are breeding fast,the land becomes expensive and not enough for everyone, then someone is busy building short buildings? I could understand if that was done in countries like Australia or Greenland were they have less people but their landmass is so huge! But for a small nation like Ghana with over 30 million souls,you still construct short buildings and u go all around defending that?!

There are still some part of Lagos where skyscrapers are not allowed up to date just for a purpose.

samorobo:
He is confused..no one ever said KIBERA has 2.5m ...2.5m is the entire population of nsirobiabs living in slum .KIBERA just happens to take the largest share..... simple..

God bless you.

tylann:
you are giving me blogs hahaha
okay read this too
https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-lay-scientist/2012/aug/01/africa-propaganda-kibera

I still don't get what ur insinuation is all about. Its just like coming to Lagos and find most street quite and almost empty and began to wonder if we up to 20m in Lagos or if Nigerians themselves are up to 200m according to data report as they say. Just get the fact, that is the accurate data for Kibera there is nothing to argue for here except u will keep coming up with excuses.

tylann:
we did a census this year
we just released results recently
and here is kibra population

Kibera Facts & Information
There are approximatly 2.5 million slum dwellers in about 200 settlements in Nairobi representing 60% of the Nairobi population and occupying just 6% of the land. Kibera houses about 250,000 of these people. Kibera is the biggest slum in Africa and one of the biggest in the world.
Land Ownership
The Government owns all the land. 10% of people are shack owners and many of these people own many other shacks and let them out to tenants. The remaining 90% of residents are tenants with no rights.
Housing
The average size of shack in this area is 12ft x 12ft built with mud walls, a corrugated tin roof with a dirt or concrete floor. The cost is about KES 700 per Month (£6). These shacks often house up to 8 or more with many sleeping on the floor.

Read the complete one here:
https://www.kibera.org.uk/facts-info/

tylann:
we did a census this year
we just released results recently
and here is kibra population

Where on earth will a reasonable man accept this? Common you can post something better.

Logobenz0:
Leave that Fool Jare. Allow him to play a little so that he can sleep well tonight he's looking for who to play with tonight so that he can sleep well tonight and we all know the country that host the world largest slums sufferNsmilling is the biggest Illiterate in the world

Depression is a very big problem how on earth will a man continue to show his level of frustration when he can do something better for himself.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
I have been to 16 African countries and my tears drop For My Country Nigeria. When I go to Ghana Rwanda Kenya South Africa Namibia Botswana Angola Mozambique all of these countries are overtaking my country Africa is moving forward but not all of it even right now Somalia is beginning to make more progress than Nigeria. I am here today are a lot of mining companies which are coming to Somalia. Nigeria's problem is not leaders but the people are illiterate.

Open defecation in Lagos on one of the biggest roads the airport Road murtala Mohammed

Could that be ur picture which you intentionally gave a shot?

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
I have been to 16 African countries and my tears drop For My Country Nigeria. When I go to Ghana Rwanda Kenya South Africa Namibia Botswana Angola Mozambique all of these countries are overtaking my country Africa is moving forward but not all of it even right now Somalia is beginning to make more progress than Nigeria. I am here today are a lot of mining companies which are coming to Somalia. Nigeria's problem is not leaders but the people are illiterate.

Open defecation in Lagos on one of the biggest roads the airport Road murtala Mohammed

Could that be ur picture which you intentionally took?

tylann:
yeah we are dealing with facts and records as you say
kibra population is 185k and not all of them are slum dwellers

I asked you were is your statistics/records that confirm the population is 185k let's deal with that first.

tylann:
yeah we are dealing with facts and records as you say
kibra population is 185k and not all of them are slum dwellers

Get this cleared a typical example of Makoko. This guys are fishermen and they really have occupation which actually transformed to wealth in order to sustain their needs. They actually built houses on water for that purpose.
Do u think they are living there because they are poor?
Do you think there are no modernise buildings in Makoko?

My brother a slum remain a slum. Using Makoko as a case study is totally different from the case of Kibera. If you think Makoko slum is as a result of poverty my brother get the facts you are deceiving yourself. A lot of Beninous lives among them and they know what they are gaining out of that thing you called slum that is the fact.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
Flood claims people's houses in Lagos world-class City

This place isn't inner Lagos it was outside of Lagos due to the opening of the dam that was suspected to cause flooding if the water were not release beforehand. This was Ogun river dam along Lagos - Ibadan road. Ikorodu was badly affected and finally the flood finds it way to the Ocean down south Ikorodu Cameroon did the same.

davefurn:
that where u get it wrong.........not up to 2.5million......most of those places called slum...... aren't really slum again........I heard their government is working on it.

Kenyans don't have accurate date that is where this guys are having the problem they really needs help.

tylann:
according to our census reports kibera has a population of around 185k which is the official figure

Show me ur reference first.

davefurn:
100 percent correct.......not only in Kenya though

Only three slum cities in Nairobi alone house about 2.5million inhabitants.

rvp20182:
kibra const that include about 1/5 middle class estates are about 180K.Kibra have 24_7 electricity, water,public toilets, some of the best schools like Olympic primary and some tarmac roads

Stop bringing in excuses let's deal with records.

tylann:
according to our census reports kibera has a population of around 185k which is the official figure

How many people live in Kibera?
For a long time, Kibera was considered the biggest slum not only in Nairobi, but in all of Africa, with allegedly over 1 million inhabitants. The 2009 Kenya Population and Housing Census counted 170.070 inhabitants. In 2010, UN Habitat estimated Kibera’s population at 500.000 to 700.000. Such is the quality of data for many, if not most low-income markets in developing countries. If we don’t even know how many people live in a certain area, imagine how little we understand about their incomes, spending patterns, or consumer preferences.
Low-income markets remain dark data-wise.


Read more here: https://endeva.org/blog/many-people-live-kibera

Logobenz0:
Leave those people jare they know the truth they said Lagos was ranked among worse cities in Africa. They thought Lagos was ranked because of the slums but they don't know it was ranked because of the crimes in the city. foolish people

Things had quite change on Lagos not like those days na.

Logobenz0:
Kenya is still a village? They don't have 10 lane road in that ZOO. Can you imagine

The truth is already there.

tylann:
iam not shying away from the from the truth iam telling you the truth

you didnt get what i told you i see

Approximately 700,000 inhabitant lives in kibera with over 300,000 inhabitants per km square compare to makoko 50,000 inhabitant for 0.72km square what else do u want to here. Just given you facts.

tylann:
yes every postive indices not negative indices
by world recognized bodies like UN, WHO,etc
not some NGO blogs which say kibera has 2 million people which is a lie
kibera has a land area around about 2.38 km square so do the math

Don't be shy away from the truth even the 2.38km square made it the largest slum in Africa. makoko is just 0.72km square so what is ur excuse.

tylann:
fake news and NGO propaganda

In every indices Kenya rank better than Nigeria and you are talking of fake news and NGO propaganda? Funny you.

tylann:
consoling yourself with slums i see

Three cities In Nairobi are not left out in the list of slum: Kibera, Kawangware and Mathare, Nairobi, Kenya.

JaceBlaze:
So can Nigeria invade SA?

Your white masters should answer that.

Austine1212:
Cape Town, South Africa
Cape Town, South Africa

You don’t get listed by luck on The New York Time and The Telegraph. Cape Town in 2019 was named the best place to visit in the world. Its well-developed infrastructures in second to none in Africa and among the best in the world.

So, if you are making that trip for the first time or not, the list should serve as a guide for interesting places to visit and should also change your perception of Africa. Kindly share your views about other developed cities in Africa with other PropertyPro readers.

This is the most developed city in africa

This is how crazy things are. You may be surprise when you realise that Capetown yet still host one of the largest slum in Africa after Kibera then you get Khayelitsha, Capetown.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
When I visited Nigeria 2 months ago the eko Atlantic was a dead dog most of the projects have been abundant. The investors complained bitterly even the ones which have bought land in the area that when the local currency collapsed from 140 naira to the US dollar to 360 naira to the dollar it is no more economical. What this means is the price of the properties with have tripled and people cannot just afford them. A good example when eko Atlantic started the naira to the dollar was 120 naira so if you are going to build a project for 1 million u.s. dollar it will be 120 million naira today if you are going to build a project for 1 million u.s. dollar it is 360 million naira which people cannot just afford the properties. Right now I can tell you 60% of the project at eko Atlantic have been abandoned. To make matters worse the project is 300% over budget it is facing the same issue as dangote oil refinery because whoever buys property we have to pay the debt. The next thing most Nigerian middle-class and upper-class are running away from the country. Look how Nigerians are buying houses in Ghana South Africa even Namibia now you will be short I was hearing in southern Africa there are roads which are all the houses are owned by Nigerians

The top management of Eko Atlantic still hosting investors and private individuals to discuss way forward. Nothing had stop anyway.