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bizz: yes ma

truthislight: why then are you crying for a material tithe that will not give anyone everlasting life ?



this is what that leads to eternal life and not tithe :

"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. " (John 17:3).
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Stop crying for tithe.

Boomark: Whatever is not true is not true. That you are earning millions every day does not make tithe paying by Christians true.

He asked you a simple question, are Christians commanded to pay tithe? Just like other commandments written in the letters that Christians should observe. Is there anything like tithe paying for them?

truthislight: Sharrap !

Shameless woman.
if you dont have a job Go get a job or ask your husband to get one and be productive.

Nonsens!

*she only seem to appear on religiouse section whenever tithe is being exposed*

do you survive on tithe ?

does tithing takes one to heaven ?

Are christians commanded to pay tithe ? Answer me!



*if you are married that is*

funny! i wonder how much u earn that is making tithing so difficult for you!

do i survive on tithe? sorry i don't. I PAY TITHE! Glory to God

Image123: Apart from all the rowdiness following this thread, it suffices to state that the OP's exposition so called has been an embarassment to any good Bible student. Even the truth does not deserve such rigidity of thought.

Goshen360: Why are you bothered about that? Allow the Holy Spirit to show you - it's one of the churches listed there.

bizz:

bizz: surprise......hmmm......well u cud as well be surprised.....anyway.I don't think it hurts to have an additional friend

Flytefalls:

bizz: we could be friends...n probably get to know whom we r chatting with....u seem more like a nice person to me anyway..

nancy1985: HMMM BIZZ U REALLY GETTIN BIZY

Sarassin: I do agree with the OP and it has been well known for ages. The problems occur when you take bible verses out of context, it is very clear that Malachi 3: 8-12 is not referring to a failure to tithe, rather it is referring to greedy, thieving priests overseeing the distribution of the tithes from the storehouses and withholding choice portions for themselves of what was to be shared equally.

I should point out also that the ‘’devourer’’ (Aklm)referred to in the book of Malachi, and beloved of pastors who use it to put the frighteners on their already impoverished non-tithe paying congregants was basically a malevolent Canaanite deity reminiscent of the humble grasshopper.

God2man: By the Grace of God, i am a member of MFM, so, Let's see what the OP will say about his church.


God2man,

Image123: methinks he needs some humility.

christemmbassey: so tithe collectors can nt preach this tithe fraud without issueing threats?

who made me a tithe collector and since when did Biblical truth become a threat? smh!

bizz: am good...been doing chores all day....
Can we talk on another means other than this page?

bizz: already removed it.....u have to edit urs.....how was ur day

christemmbassey: what is the stamard of God, defrauding widows and orphans in d name of abolished tithe? I asked u a question, how many times in d year do u assist widows and orphans and d poor in comparison to monthly 'i love my pastor', after sermon-prophet offerings, seed sowing, annointing taping and keying-into scam u do every sunday for pastors. Intead of u to help these needy ppl u rob them with mal3:8-10. God will start judgement in the church in nigeria

Mark Miwerds: God's tithe was never anything other than agricultural. Everywhere tithes are seen in the Law, they were of food products. How do you get "you can pay tithe of anything, cash, kind of material" out of tithes of food?

Mark Miwerds: Your fruit clearly is not lining up with Scripture. You judge us to be in err because we point out that the tithe was never required in the New Testament Gentile Church, yet you have no Scripture to prove your allegations against us.

Mark Miwerds: Verse also says "that there may be food in my house." Not money, food.

Amazing how she overlooked that important truth, eh?

Zikkyy: Lol! @ the highlighted bit of the bible reference so let see now, the Amplified version says tithe of income and you assume it was talking about cash abi? okay, let look at Malachi in more detail, again quoting Malachi 3:10-11......

Malachi 3:11 Amplified Bible (AMP)
10 Bring all the tithes (the whole tenth of your income) into the storehouse, that there may be food in My house, and prove Me now by it, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

see verse 11 .......

Malachi 3:11 Amplified Bible (AMP)
11 And I will rebuke the devourer [insects and plagues] for your sakes and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground, neither shall your vine drop its fruit before the time in the field, says the Lord of hosts.

Do you see the bit highlighted blue? now what is the nature of income that can be 'devoured' by insects and diseases? is it the cash in the bank or assets/income from the capital markets/real estate e.t.c maybe its the share certificate that will be devoured. Well sorry to disappoint you, share certificate are no longer in vogue

I want to believe you are now convinced that tithe was always about agric produce

Alwaystrue: Our prayer should be for unbelief to be removed from veiled hearts (more like uncircumcised) as God had to come in the flesh to explain His word yet veiled hearts still don't get it. 2 Cor. 3:14-17.

christemmbassey: wetin concern God with money(pastor twisted tithe) is God a trader?

christemmbassey: do u obey mal4:4? B honest, at least to urself. Cheers.

akpos4uall: This one tough o. The best I can say about this question/law is that Christ came to simplify these laws which all boils than to love.

Goshen360: Again, do you BY HIS GRACE obey this commandment?

God is not a man that He should lie and Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever! He said in Lev. 27:30, 32

"A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord. 32 Every tithe of the herd and flock—every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd’s rod—will be holy to the Lord"

christemmbassey: may b u don't know, or u r very dishonest. It is open secret dat in most churches in nigeria pastor owns d church n church money. So no need to form innocent here, if anybody should b mindful of judgement, it should b d fraudsters who r so hard hearted as to also steal from d widows, poor and orphans. Church workers r nt levites, don't decieve urself, oderwise, they suppose to collect tithes from members n pay tithe of tithe to pastor, or is it what they do in ur church? Try to b honest at least to urself, how many times has ur church help d widows, poor n orphans in a year if at all in comparison to d monthly ' i love my pastor' and sunday sunday prophet offerings, keying into and taping of annointing scam etc etc . Why we call most tithe collecjors thieves and robbers is bc of d same trick u av tried to use here, pls read ur post again, u 'll see dat it has d character of ur(tithe collectors) stock in trade, intimidations, threats, twists, ambushes, and clear dishonesty. Do u know there is God? N dat he's watching us!

Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Mark Miwerds: God has opened my eyes. Your worship is in vain.

Zikkyy: If God did not request for tithe from salary, if he did not request for tithe from sales of goods and services (which most likely will come in the form of cash), on what authority do you make your claim that you can tithe anything?

Will a man rob or defraud God? Yet you rob and defraud Me. But you say, In what way do we rob or defraud You? [You have withheld your] tithes and offerings.

9 You are cursed with the curse, for you are robbing Me, even this whole nation.

10 Bring all the tithes (the whole tenth of your income) into the storehouse, that there may be food in My house, and prove Me now by it, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

bizz: have u gotten it

bizz: thanks......do u still want it

Logicboy03: 1)We are told in that Mary got pregnant with Jesus without intercourse or an earthly father. Where does the other half of his chromosomes come from?


2)We are told that God sent his only begotten son to die for our sins. Is there a problem with forgiving sins without the death of somebody?


3)We are told that Yahweh is the God of Isreal. Why would a good God choose one set of people over another? Is there a problem speaking to other people around the world at the same time? Why must all his prophets be Jews?



4)We are told that we come from two human beings- Adam and Eve. However, science/history proves this impossible because Jews/Hebrews were far from being the first humans on earth and also, the world could not be possibly populated by 2 human beings into 7 billion given the particular space of time and incest.


5)We are told that Jesus was a peaceful man. However, Jesus scattered the merchandise of traders in the church/synagogue and chased them with whips. Such an action in any civilized country is jail time for destruction of private property and assault.


6)Paul in the bible remains one of the greatest examples for sexism. Yet, we are to believe that the bible is the word of a divine and merciful God.
(http://members.shaw.ca/tfrisen/Bbl/Sexism/Sexism.html)


7)Did Jesus really sacrifice himself? Did he really do anything for us? If I know that I am going to a place called heaven which is an everlasting paradise, why wouldnt I go and get myself crucified? I am only accepting the crucifixion for a reward- this is no sacrifice.


All christian historians and scholars will agree that the bible is incomplete. Yet, we are still using the bible as divine inspiration. What if further explanations, abrogations and commandments are in those missing books of the bible? Even the translation of the bible from the original languages is not complete...some words cant be accurately translated......

9) How could Adam and Eve have grandchildren without inbreeding occurring with their children?

10)The most irrational thing that I find is that the God as described in the bible suspiciously has all the characteristics of a Jewish man in the early centuries.
-He chooses his Jewish people over others (Jewish prophets, God of isreal)
-Sexist laws (http://members.shaw.ca/tfrisen/Bbl/Sexism/Sexism.html)
-believes in sacrifice (eg Cain and abel's sacrifice, Jesus sacrifice on the cross)
-mostly supports the Jews in wars
-never mentions any ancient lands/people that jews have never been to (eg hanan, aztecs, etc)
-never mentions any technology that the jews never had access to
-never once suggested that slavery is one of the most evil things a man can do to another
-believed in the death penalty as ascribed by many Jewish laws.