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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 2:43pm On Aug 29, 2021
wirinet:


Please what was the condition?
That the US will pull out ALL its troops from Afghanistan within 14 months on the condition that the Taliban will not allow terrorist groups to use the country as a base to launch attacks on the US and the West.

Is that not a very stupid agreement?

First the US will withdraw it's troops and then hope that the Taliban (whom the Trump administration would be in charge of Afghanistan) will not give safe haven to terrorists.

What will the US then do if the Taliban decides to renege on the agreement after the US withdraws all troops?

What will the US do if the Taliban was unable to stop terrorist groups from using some parts of Afghanistan not under their direct control to launch attacks on the US?
The deal was basically a surrender to the Taliban terrorist. If Biden adminstration went against the deal, the stupid and senseless war would have continued.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 2:41pm On Aug 29, 2021
Ibime:



So again, how would he stop Taliban overrunning Afghan army and taking their equipment. Save your psychophantic MOAB bomb baby bomb story for Cartoon Network.
Why stick to MOAB, he can also carpet bomb the whole of Afghanistan to stop Taliban's advance grin

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 2:36pm On Aug 29, 2021
RentAghost:
“Andre Jacque is a Wisconsin Republican lawmaker who is a vehement anti-masker and anti-vaxxer. On Wednesday August 18 he attended a hearing, unvaccinated and maskless.
On Wednesday August 25 he was fitted for a mask while lying in a critical care bed with a breathing apparatus rammed down his throat.
He’s not dead — yet.
Andre is 40. He has a wife and six children.
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John Pierce is a lawyer who represents 18 of the January 6 Anti-American Insurrectionists. He represents more insurrectionists than any other single lawyer, specifically cultivating the cases out of a cultish devotion to Trump and a harbored false belief that Trump “won.”
He also has represented Rudy Giuliani in Rudy’s flagrant Ukraine lobbying scandal; Tulsi Gabbard in her meritless suit against Hillary for “defamation;” and he briefly represented Kyle Rittenhouse.
On August 17, Lawyer Pierce tweeted: “The entire 82nd Airborne couldn’t make me get an experimental government vaccine stuck in my arm.”
A week later on August 25 he was scheduled to be in court for a hearing on one of his insurrectionist clients.
But Lawyer Pierce was not in court.
His partner informed the court:
“Your Honor, Mr. Pierce is in the hospital, we believe with Covid-19, on a ventilator, unresponsive.”
John Mark Pierce is 49.
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Missouri Republican state representative Sara Walsh said she and her husband Steve did not get vaccinated because the vaccine only had provisional FDA approval and she and her husband had been “healthy throughout the pandemic.”
This morning, Sara, a candidate for Missouri’s 4th congressional district, posted:
“Steve’s visitation and service is tomorrow and today’s tribute to my beloved Steve Walsh is a recollection of memories of Broadway shows, songs, and faith. Steve loved the Beatles and Motown. Steve was and always will be my Prince Charming.”
It was a lengthy post, ending in a plea for people to accept Jesus as their Savior, even though Jesus refused to save Steve from Covid.
She did not beg people to get vaccinated, even though vaccinations do keep people from dying with Covid.
Steve Walsh was 63. He died of Covid on August 19 leaving behind his 42-year-old wife.
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Lisa Steadman and her husband Ron were diagnosed with Covid in early August. Lisa finally had to go to the hospital but the big man of the house stayed home to brave and battle Covid alone.
Lisa called Ron every day. On Sunday August 8 he told her his phone was not holding a charge. On Monday August 9 she couldn’t get him on the phone and finally sent the police to their home for a wellness check.
The police called back and told her they had found him out walking the dogs and “he only has a cold.”
The unvaccinated couple did not talk on the phone on Monday after the police wellness check or on Tuesday or on Wednesday morning August 11 before Lisa was released from the Winter Haven Florida hospital after an eight-day stay.
At home, Lisa opened the door.
Ron?
RON? Where are you Ron?
She heard the dogs barking, all in the bedroom.
Slowly she opened the bedroom door.
And there was Ron.
Decomposing.
Lisa says they “had agreed they would wait longer to get the vaccines because I rarely get sick and Ron always wore his mask and stayed away from large crowds and both of us thought the vaccine came out so fast. How could they have done so much testing on it? I was just cautious about it.”
Ron Steadman was 55. He leaves behind his 58-year-old wife and three dogs.
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Following a week-long church camp, Lydia Rodriguez and her unvaccinated husband Lawrence and several other family members tested positive for Covid.
Lydia felt she could fight it off because she was strong and healthy and “didn’t believe in vaccines.”
Lawrence died first.
Suddenly Lydia thought the vaccine might be a good idea.
But vaccines will do no good in the ICU.
Her only choice was to be intubated.
She never woke up.
She died August 16.
She was 42; he was 49. Their collective stupidity orphaned 4 kids
The funny thing is that the vaccine is FREE. The same doctors they believe are lying to them about Covid & vaccination are the same doctors they run to when Covid starts dealing with them.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 10:08pm On Aug 28, 2021

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Second Kabul Airport Attack Likely In 24-36 Hours - President Biden by Tdotbluejays: 9:56pm On Aug 28, 2021
ayourbamie:
What is Saudi doing about this?
Saudi Arabia is Sunni. Osama Bin Laden is a Saudi Arabian.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 7:35am On Aug 28, 2021
basilico:


I think its only the US that still continuing evacuations from Sunday .
There will be people left under the mercy of the Taliban.
Turkey will be stationed at the airport in a tech support role.
US will help Taliban to search for ISIS-K and probably bomb them too.
You are right.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 7:19am On Aug 28, 2021
What is the difference between the Taliban and Isis?

Islamist militant factions have fought between themselves for control of Afghanistan since 2015

The Taliban and Isis are both Sunni Islamist extremist groups seeking to form authoritarian states under strict Sharia law and prepared to use violence to achieve their aim.

The two forces are actually enemies, however, who have fought bitterly since 2015 when Isis formed the Islamic State-Khorasan Province (ISKP) in Afghanistan at a time when it was first seeking to extend its geographical reach beyond Iraq and Syria.

The Taliban first came to prominence in 1994 during the Afghan Civil War, its ranks composed largely of students - from which the group derives its name in Pashto - many of whom had been mujahideen resistance fighters who had battled occupation by the Soviet Union in the 1980s.

A Deobandi fundamentalist Islamist movement originating in the Pashtun areas of eastern and southern Afghanistan and in northern Pakistan, the Taliban was led by Mullah Mohammed Omar and conquered first the province of Herat and then the whole country by September 1996, overthrowing the Burhanuddin Rabbani regime, establishing the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and making Kandahar the capital.

Its tyrannical rule, marked by the massacre of opponents, the denial of UN food supplies to starving citizens and the oppression of women, was brought to an abrupt end by US-led coalition forces in December 2001 in retaliation for Osama Bin Laden’s devastating al-Qaeda terror strike on the World Trade Center in New York City.

Since then, Taliban fighters have regrouped as an insurgency and continued to battle to retake Afghanistan from US, Western Allies and NATO peacekeeping forces ever since.

Isis meanwhile was first formed by Jordanian jihadist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in 1999 before rising to global prominence when it drove Iraqi forces out of key cities in the west of the country in 2014 - having declared itself a worldwide caliphate - and later conquered swathes of eastern Syria before ultimately surrendering Mosul and Raqqa in 2017 when international forces intervened.

It established the ISKP in the Nangarhar Province of eastern Afghanistan in January 2015, actively recruiting defectors from the Taliban, in particular those who were discontented with their own leadership’s lack of success on the battlefield.

How have their respective factions interacted?

The formation of ISKP prompted Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansour to write a letter to his Isis counterpart, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, calling on him to abandon his recruitment drive of the disaffected and arguing that any war for their comparable cause in Afghanistan should be carried out under Taliban leadership.

Fighting duly broke out between the two sides that June 2015 and between two separate factions of the Taliban in the Zabul Province that November over whether or not to join forces with Isis.

More battles erupted in April 2017 when ISKP captured three drug dealers selling opium to raise funds for the Taliban in the northern Afghan province of Jowzjan and again in May 2017 when 22 militants were killed in clashes between the two sides along the Iranian border.

The Taliban launched an offensive to clear Isis out of Jowzjan the following summer, with the the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan joining in on the latter’s side, as up to 7,000 people were displaced from their homes.

That July’s conflict ended in a significant defeat for ISKP, who suffered further setbacks in skirmishes the following year before being almost entirely eradicated by the US and the Afghan military in late 2019, although the Council for Foreign Relations estimates that there are still 2,200 members of ISKP still active in Afghanistan.

Despite having an Afghan government in power, In February 2020, the Donald Trump administration signed its peace accord with the Taliban in Doha, Qatar, which saw the latter group pledge to keep other Islamist extremists, including Isis, out of the country.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 3:28am On Aug 28, 2021
basilico:


I think its only the US that still continuing evacuations from Sunday .
There will be people left under the mercy of the Taliban.
Turkey will be stationed at the airport in a tech support role.
US will help Taliban to search for ISIS-K and probably bomb them too.
I wish the the bombing/drone can be extended to Nigeria. The leaders of ISWAP and Boko Haram need to be pounded in their hideouts too.

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Family / Re: Court Marries Off Two Women In Jigawa Despite Father’s Objection by Tdotbluejays: 9:06pm On Aug 27, 2021
Okay. so the men can rape the women every night in the name of arranged marriages.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 9:05pm On Aug 27, 2021
wirinet:


Rigged by who? That "Biden was rigged in" has become an psychotic obsession for a few of Trumps followers.
Biden was rigged in but most Republican election officials, election observers, state legislative members and federal legislative members endorsed the elections.

Biden was rigged in but his lawyers said they did not expect people to be stupid enough to believe it.

Biden was rigged in and yet not one proof was presented in the over 60 court cases which they lost.

As I said, Trump is popular among republucan voters, but not so popular among the general US population. He lost the popular votes in 2016 by close to 3 million votes. He lost to Biden by over 7 million votes. If he contests again I am certain he will lose the popular votes by over 10 million votes. He has become even more unpopular within the US population.

Even his own Attorney General called the fraud claims Bullshit. grin

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 9:02pm On Aug 27, 2021
basilico:
This Kabul attack was that deadly.
175 casualties so far.
And a local Afghan whose neighbor died says All that happened because of the Americans.
The local Afghan won't have to worry about NATO, America or other Allies of the Western powers anymore after the 31st of August. They are leaving their shithole for them smiley

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Foreign Affairs / Re: IS-K: Profile Of World's Deadliest Terror Group Behind Kabul Attack (Pictures) by Tdotbluejays: 5:25pm On Aug 27, 2021
Mikehot:
Make una leave afgan shithole to Taliban una say no

Muslims suclde b0mbing muslims




Sahih Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'

Yes. They can bomb each other out of existence. No one cares. Nigeria is still dealing with ISWAP and Boko Haram in Nigeria too.
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 5:22pm On Aug 27, 2021
May God help Nigeria too.

Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 5:18pm On Aug 27, 2021
I wonder how many of them are Afghan-British like the Afghan-Canadian woman that decided to stay behind in Afghanistan.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 5:13pm On Aug 27, 2021
Livelystone01:

I'm surprised nobody actually kept the pressure on him concerning his beautiful and robust well inclusive health care plan.

He tried in the economy though, until covid came and trumped him.
Yes that's why I earlier said he could still have squeezed out a win if not for his lack of empathy and how he handled the GF riots and Corona virus.

Unlike the Afghan issue, those other two factors were personal and affected alot of Americans at home.

Some also argued that the earlier boom in economy was as a result of Obama's policies.
Foreign Affairs / Re: UK Shuts Kabul Airport Gates With Airlift To End In Hours Leaving 150 Brits(Pix) by Tdotbluejays: 5:08pm On Aug 27, 2021
bablon20:
I just hope all these evacuations that US & UK are giving these Afghans will not backfire in d nearest future. How will they know if the Taliban apologists are among d evacuees?
We will see. When the US closed it's doors on Syrians, Canada took around 50,000 Syrians in 2015. No problem so far.
Foreign Affairs / Re: UK Shuts Kabul Airport Gates With Airlift To End In Hours Leaving 150 Brits(Pix) by Tdotbluejays: 5:05pm On Aug 27, 2021
benuejosh:
Afghanistan go hear whim very soon. But I doubt if the British government will leave their very own citizens stranded for long.
I would be suprised if those left behind are not Afghan-British citizens. A Canadian said she would stay in Afghanistan and got left behind by Canadian forces. She is Afghan-Canadian so Afghanistan is also home to her.
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 5:04pm On Aug 27, 2021
wirinet:


Trump is a hero among Republicans, he is a diety among MAGA cultists and Far right groups. But He is a non entity among the wider US population. And he is a joke according to the rest of the world population. He is the most unpopular firmer US president in history. He has not been invited for any talks or conference by any International organization since leaving office. Even our own OBJ and Jonathan has more clout than Trump internationally.
100 percent.
Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 3:21pm On Aug 27, 2021
Livelystone01:

I am glad that the war is ending too.
I love that Biden didn't extend or cancel the pull out, it was the right thing to do.

You see why I am angry, those lazy soldiers who allowed the Taliban to get modern gadgets without giving them a run for their money. My anger is that they wanted the Taliban that's why some have been acting as informants while others never put up any fight. They should stay and enjoy the Taliban they supported secretly.
Yes. it's pathetic to be honest. The US and NATO should have gotten out sooner after taking out Osama Bin Laden. That was their man. They just wasted years and money. The only people that benefited from the Afghan war are military contractors and military equipment manufacturers and suppliers.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 3:19pm On Aug 27, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Imagine Nigeria being a neighbor to US, all these Umudikeans will be swimming through Rio Grande or hopping through the desert and jumping fence to get to the Fruited Plains. They are angry because on their best days, they couldn't get that visa hence they loathe people like Mexicans and Afghans coming in. Misery loves company.
Funny thing is that Canada has a visa on arrival policy for Mexicans. These guys work during harvest season and return to Mexico to spend their fortune. We had had zero issues with them. Obama deported a lot of ilegal migrants or those whose application for asylum was denied. He did not make any noise about some walls.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 3:17pm On Aug 27, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
Trump's a scammer and a grifter. That 97 storey Trump Tower Chicago in front of my office will be going lien being put on by Deutsche Bank because he is $400 million behind on the mortgage due. The condos ain't selling and the Trump Hotel is not attracting customers because Chicagoans hates Trump's guts.
The Trump brand has been removed from an hotel in British Columbia just north of Washington state. That name (Trump) is synonymous to failure.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 3:15pm On Aug 27, 2021
budaatum:


He had a plan though. grin
Tell them to show us the detailed plan. They will keep mute. Plan like the replacement for Obama care grin

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 3:13pm On Aug 27, 2021
ono:


Bros, the boarder wall project stopped on day one of half-dead Biden's presidency. Do you think those walls will look that decrepit and in that state if Trump is still president? You may want to leave your vehicle for months without servicing them and see how that turns out for you.
so a wall is now a vehicle that you service. Hmm. I never knew that walls have moving parts that needs oiling and greasing. We learn every day.

Anyway, no one has money to waste on some funny looking walls that did not even stop mexicans from migrating into the US.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 3:09pm On Aug 27, 2021
budaatum:


Didn't he have a drumptfcare plan too, and a buildwall plan, and a swampdrain plan and a second inauguration kraken plan?
You mean the wall below. The wall failed like his business'

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 3:04pm On Aug 27, 2021
Livelystone01:

First of, I want to say I have nothing against Muslims or immigration. I pointed out the suffering going on in Yemen and how they should help those being subjected to hardship by forces beyond their control, or are they not Muslims too?

My anger is thst these men failed to figjt to keep their land, not even the slightest of ressistance for a week and now they want to run to a land where people used their blood to defend. Come on now, this is unfair to the women and children.

Finally, i never said Biden is a failure, I said his strategy in this withdrawal failed.

Imagine soldiers are dead already, how do you think their family will cope?

By the way I don't do right and left politics, I only know the Democratic party anf the Republican party.

America and NATO relied on military intelligence which obviously failed. Biden never claimed to know more about Afghanistan than some US generals like the former guy claimed and lies that ISIS had been defeated several times. Biden even accepted the blame like a true leader should.

The Afghan army was a mess and this is where the US and it's NATO allies fckd up.

Anyway. The war is almost over now and we have Biden to thank for that. He could have extended US stay in Afghanistan, but he did not which is good.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 2:58pm On Aug 27, 2021
Excerpt:

I worked as a soldier at the coalface of Nato’s Resolute Support mission, which was supposed to train, support and assist Afghan security services and institutions. We provided security for advisers while they engaged with their Afghan counterparts in Kabul. Generally, this would mean picking them up, taking them to the meeting, providing security for the meeting and bringing them back to base. From my perspective, there were at least two fundamental errors in the mission’s approach. The first was the massive outsourcing to the private sector that underwrote the operation.

Let me state categorically, our service people are not to blame. The soldiers I served with, those who fought in Helmand and later safeguarded in Kabul, acted, almost without exception, with the utmost professionalism and valour. To have served alongside them is the great honour of my life. But Nato’s mission was not fit for purpose.

1)
When I was in Afghanistan, private military contractors numbered almost 30,000. Some were engaged in protection tasks, but many more were responsible for training and mentoring Afghans who held positions of significant influence. They advised on intelligence, war-fighting, diplomacy, policing, you name it. Some of them were doing their best. Many more didn’t give a damn. Many were on six figures and had been for years. Afghanistan for them was a cash cow, a way of putting their kids through college (most were American) or paying off a mortgage. In sum, there were too many poorly qualified people working without accountability, getting paid far too much. If you want an answer to the question of why Afghanistan’s military crumbled in weeks, take a long hard look at their so-called mentors.

2)
Then there was the simplistic assumption that everyone in Afghanistan could fall into two categories, enlightened liberal reformers who would welcome a western presence, and conservative folk susceptible to the Taliban. Needless to say, things were more complicated than that.

3)
There were some pretty unsavoury characters who worked with us in Kabul. One morning, an interpreter who had worked with the British for decades sidled up to me at breakfast and pointed at a young Afghan woman who also worked as an interpreter. In a voice loud enough for her to hear everything, he declared her a “filthy LovePeddler”. His reason? She was wearing a pair of jeans and a bright pink headscarf. This sort of language and these attitudes were commonplace and generally went unchallenged by soldiers and contractors, who didn’t want to be seen as undermining locals. And if they were accepted in a Nato base, what hope was there of combating the Taliban’s brutal misogyny?

4)
Corruption existed at every level. One afternoon I provided protection for a meeting between an Afghan air force lawyer and his US adviser. As I sweated into my body armour, they discussed an investigation relating to unauthorised travel on Afghan air force flights. In brief, the Taliban had been able to board flights reserved for Afghan soldiers and fly across the country with impunity. After several hours of back-and-forth on how best to proceed, the American eventually lost his cool and shouted: “You have to get rid of these corrupt people!” The Afghan lawyer calmly answered: “Would you like me to disband the entire Afghan air force?” The American had no answer to that. The west has had no answer to that for 20 years.

5)
How Nato believed that these fragile institutions were capable of holding back a group like the Taliban, who spoke with one voice and strove towards one end, is beyond me. In truth, it probably didn’t – it was accepting of Afghanistan’s fate and the fate of its hopeful youth.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 2:46pm On Aug 27, 2021
Gladly, the war ends on the 31st of August. Thanks to President Biden.

Enough of the loss of lives and stupid waste of money.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 2:02pm On Aug 27, 2021
feedthenation:


---Judge sanctions Sidney Powell and other attorneys who filed lawsuit challenging 2020 election---The judge described the suit as a "profound abuse of the judicial process."---

A federal judge in Michigan has ordered sanctions against former Trump attorney Sidney Powell, attorney Lin Wood, and several other lawyers who brought a legal challenge seeking to overturn President Joe Biden's 2020 election victory in the state.

In her ruling Wednesday, Judge Linda Parker described the suit as an "historic and profound abuse of the judicial process."

"It is one thing to take on the charge of vindicating rights associated with an allegedly fraudulent election," Parker wrote in a scathing 110-page filing. "It is another to take on the charge of deceiving a federal court and the American people into believing that rights were infringed, without regard to whether any laws or rights were in fact violated. This is what happened here."

Parker ordered the group of nine attorneys involved in the lawsuit to pay all legal fees incurred by the state of Michigan and the city of Detroit's attorneys, and mandated that they take legal education courses.
Excellent news.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 1:59pm On Aug 27, 2021
HUNGARY
Hungary has ended evacuations in Afghanistan after airlifting 540 people, including Hungarian citizens and Afghans and their families who worked for Hungarian forces previously, Defence Minister Tibor Benko said on Thursday.

DENMARK
Denmark made its last evacuation flight out of Kabul on Wednesday with the remaining diplomatic staff and military personnel, according to its defence ministry.

Denmark has airlifted around 1,000 people from Afghanistan since Aug. 14, including diplomatic staff, their families, former interpreters, Danish citizens as well as people from allied countries, the ministry said.

AUSTRIA
Austria is not operating its own flights and is relying on Germany and other countries to help with its evacuation. So far 89 people with Austrian citizenship or residency have been airlifted out, while another two to three dozen people are still in Afghanistan, Foreign Minister Alexander Schallenberg told national broadcaster ORF on Wednesday.

SWITZERLAND
Switzerland, which is relying on Germany and the United States to help with its evacuation efforts via Tashkent, has got 292 people out of Afghanistan, Foreign Minister Ignazio Cassis said on Tuesday. There were still 15 Swiss citizens in Afghanistan, but no more Swiss evacuation flights were planned, he said.

THE NETHERLANDS
The Dutch government said on Thursday it had evacuated 2,500 people from Afghanistan since Aug. 15, with about 1,600 of them brought to the Netherlands. The Dutch ambassador left on the final flight on Thursday. The Dutch have no consular presence remaining in the country.

SPAIN
Spain has concluded its evacuation of personnel from Afghanistan, the government said.

Two military planes carrying the last 81 Spaniards out of Kabul arrived in Dubai early on Friday, a government statement said. The planes were also carrying four Portuguese soldiers and 83 Afghans who had worked with NATO countries.

Over the course of its rescue mission Spain evacuated 1,898 Afghans who had worked with Western countries, the United Nations or the European Union.

QATAR
Qatar said on Thursday it had so far helped evacuate more than 40,000 people to Doha and "evacuation efforts will continue in the coming days in consultation with international partners".

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
The UAE said on Thursday it had helped evacuate 36,500 people to date, including 8,500 coming to the UAE via its national carriers or airports.

INDIA
India has airlifted 565 people from Afghanistan, most of them embassy personnel and citizens living there but also dozens of Afghans including Afghan Sikhs and Hindus, a government official said on condition of anonymity.

AUSTRALIA
Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said on Friday that Australia had evacuated 4,100 people, including over 3,200 citizens and Afghans with Australian visas, over nine days, with the last planned flight leaving before the airport attack. The other evacuees were from coalition partners.

He also said Australia's operations there were now complete. Morrison acknowledged some Australian visa holders remain in Afghanistan, though he said Canberra did not know exact numbers.

NEW ZEALAND
New Zealand’s Defence Force (NZDF) ran three flights out of Kabul, and the last planned flight had left before the attack, a government statement said.

No NZDF personnel were in Kabul at the time of the explosions and no New Zealand evacuees were left within Kabul airport. According to preliminary numbers, at least 276 New Zealand nationals and permanent residents, their families and other visa holders were evacuated, it said.

Compiled by Reuters staff Editing by Raissa Kasolowsky, Alex Richardson, Raju Gopalakrishnan, Ana Nicolaci da Costa, Nick Macfie and Frances Kerry

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 1:58pm On Aug 27, 2021
basilico:
For weeks I've been asking what is it about democrats and immigrants. AOC the far left congress person wants h 200k afghan refugees

Ocasio-Cortez: U.S. Must Accept 200,000 Afghan
Refugees to Make Amends for Immoral War
AOC's opinion.

It's not possible to evacuate that much people. Not all Afganistani wants to leave their country. I won't be suprised if Nigerians start moving to Kabul by next year tongue


Aug 27 (Reuters) - The United States and allies are hurrying to evacuate as many people from Afghanistan as possible before an Aug. 31 deadline amid deteriorating security.

The United States and partners have evacuated about 105,000 people since Aug. 14, the day before the Taliban entered Kabul, the White House said on Friday.

Here are some more details of the evacuation effort by country:


UNITED STATES
The U.S. military will continue evacuating people from Kabul airport until Aug. 31 if needed, but will prioritize the removal of U.S. troops and military equipment on the last couple of days, the Pentagon has said.

Washington has so far evacuated 4,500 U.S. citizens and their families, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Wednesday.

There were still about 1,500 U.S. citizens in Afghanistan and the U.S. government was working to either contact them or had already given them instructions on how to get to Kabul airport, Blinken said.

BRITAIN
British forces have entered the final stages of evacuating people from Kabul and processing facilities have closed, Britain's defence ministry said on Friday.

The effort would now focus on evacuating British nationals and others who have already been cleared to leave and are already at the airport, the ministry said. No further people would be called forward to the airport for evacuation, it said.

So far, Britain has evacuated more than 13,700 British nationals and Afghans, representing the second biggest airlift by the country's air force after the Berlin Airlift in 1949, the ministry said.

GERMANY
Germany ended evacuation flights on Thursday. The German military has evacuated 5,347 people, including more than 4,100 Afghans.

Germany previously said it had identified 10,000 people who needed to be evacuated, including Afghan local staff, journalists and human rights activists. Around 300 German citizens remain in Afghanistan, a spokesman for the foreign office in Berlin said on Friday.

FRANCE
The French Defence Ministry said that, as of Thursday evening, more than 100 French nationals and more than 2,500 Afghans had reached French soil after being evacuated from Kabul.

ITALY
Italy said that by Aug. 26, 4,832 Afghans had been brought out of Afghanistan. Some 4,575 have arrived so far in Italy.

SWEDEN
Sweden has ended its evacuation mission in Kabul, Swedish Foreign Minister Ann Linde said on Friday. She said that a total of 1,100 people had been evacuated, including all locally employed embassy staff and their families.

BELGIUM
Prime Minister Alexander De Croo said on Thursday Belgium had ended its evacuation operations. A little over 1,400 people were evacuated, with the last flight arriving in the Pakistan capital of Islamabad on Wednesday night, he said.

IRELAND
Ireland's foreign ministry said that it had evacuated 36 Irish citizens after the completion of an emergency consular mission on Thursday.

It said it was now aware of approximately 60 Irish citizens and family members plus a further 15 Afghan citizens with Irish residency who are still in the country and have requested assistance, far more than they had initially estimated.

CANADA
Canadian forces in Kabul ended evacuation efforts for their citizens and Afghans on Thursday, acting chief of the defence staff General Wayne Eyre said.

He said Canada had evacuated or facilitated the evacuation of around 3,700 Canadian and Afghan citizens.

TURKEY
Turkey has evacuated at least 1,400 people from Afghanistan, including around 1,000 Turkish citizens, Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said earlier this week.

POLAND
Poland has evacuated about 900 people from Afghanistan, including about 300 women and 300 children, Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said on Thursday.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 1:45pm On Aug 27, 2021
Ibime:


It's important we hold people to account for their previous lunacy

A mad man cannot run naked in the market, then return months later trying to argue points in sane society without sane people first making sure he is OK to discuss with.
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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Tdotbluejays: 4:42am On Aug 27, 2021
PrideofLincoln1:
At the press conference today, Peter Doocy asked President Biden if he bears sny responsibility for what happened in Afghanistan and Biden said YES. Will anyone tell me one thing the vile Racist Pig named Trump ever accepted responsibility for in his life not to talk of his four tragic years in the Oval Office.
That's the heart of a true leader. Never going to be smooth sailing and reasonable people perfectly understand that.

"IstandwithPresidentBiden" was trending at number 5 in the US tonight. Americans still loves their man.

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