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GrammarNazi1:
Many of these critics, who are more sentimental than they are logical, are not even Barça fans. Many of them are Real Madrid fans and we all know that Messi is their problem.

Tesppidd, these critics are cherry pickers!

Sure they are bro.

I have got a problem I admit.

I am allergic to such mischief and can't hold myself.

pu7pl3:
You were the first to reply me with memes bruh...you're just desperately looking for how to deviate Messi has 5 goals from open play in 25 games that's the topic

You can't make a paragraph of sense without memes.

You love pictures, paintings and stuff?


Did you attend a school for special kids?

pu7pl3:
See am, always getting emotional during arguements while also making useless points, can never argue without name calling and cursing

You need therapy bro

See who's talking

Isn't that what you were until you got severely battered some time ago and became humble?

Neymar1095:
Shut up your mouth. It's the same Messi fans that will tell us Messi scored 91goals in a year and Barca won the sextuple . Did those things happen in one season. When the agenda is not in your favor you are here crying. My friend take several sits.

A year. Isn't that a standard time span?

Does it sound anything like "last 18 matches"
"last 7 matches"

We've even heard "last 7 and half hours"

By the way it was 91 goals in the year;
73 goals in the season.

No one could argue with that!

There's never been an agenda like this bonuses.

Unsurprisingly you have done a breast stroke into the pool as well.

rationalmind:
Well said. I see people do this all the time and I find it really annoying. The moment I see things like last 6 matches, last 10 matches, I just know someone is trying to push an agenda.

And a lot of unsuspecting fans fall for it.
Like we've seen today.

Pure mischief.

The big misconception, maybe mischief around here is that those of us who support Messi's continued stay at Barca are sentimental.

On the contrary, those who want Messi to leave are the sentimental ones.

It is a game of numbers not sentiments.

Numbers define attackers; mostly goal and assists.

In this game numbers do lie some of the time but 99% of the time, numbers do not lie.

I cannot recollect any season that Messi did not record 40 Goals+Assists.
I bet if every one of the attackers we have at Barca equally produce 40 Goals+Assists we would win the sextuple every season...


Let's stop being sentimental and desist from judging Messi on his own standards but on a general standard.

Let the criterion of our judgement of the players be not the name on the player's jersey but the statistical numbers they deliver for the team,

Players lose form and gain form intermittently within the season.
I wouldn't go cherry picking stats by tactically focussing on the barren run of the player, even to the ridiculous extent of cutting it across seasons.

There are about 50 games per season; no player should be overburdened with performing well in every single game; but I repeat;

If every attacking player produces 40 Goals+Assists, we would get the sextuple every single season.


A crtitic is able to point out that Messi hasn't scored more than 3 goals in 10 games for instance.
Oya produce the player that has scored more than that na, and he goes mute!


Messi shouldn't be the only one charged with that.
He is not collecting salary for anybody.

haymekus:
I leave this with you

You have a very big problem in life

O yeah!
I bet you if you knew me in real life you'd want to have that same "problem" I have.

Godx:
K

Yes do.

khingTony:
You shouldn't be arguing with that guy, he doesn't leave any post that criticizes Messi unattended to.

Y'all are just spoilt brats.

Spoilt brats, that's what you are.

You keep on talking this way about a player who continues to post the best numbers for us.

Whenever anybody tries to point out your folly you come up with this usual blackmail about Messi fan bla bla bla.

It's foolish to continue to criticize Messi when you don't even have any player better than him in your team.

You just came from church, changed into your swimsuit and jumped with him into his swimming pool of foolishness.

Too bad.

Godx:
You didn't try explaining anything that made sense. I even went further to clearly show you Messi struggles didn't start this season so that excuse won't fly. Through out 2020 he has been terrible in finding the back of the net. If you like accept or not that's on you and any other mental gymnastics you want to apply to believe Messi has not decline.

I posted that Messi had declined yes but its a natural phenomenon at 33.
But you're amazed that he's declined.

Even at that, his all round contribution to the team still beats every other player but obviously what you were trying to preach all along was that he should have been sold.

What you displayed was selective amnesia and cherry picking stats.

I have never seen where someone picks 18 games across 2 seasons and judges a player based on that.

Normal people do it season by season but out of mischief you judge by 18 games across 2 seasons. Bleep!

We all know that Messi got 25 goals and 21 assists last season 2019/20.

This season is just getting started!

You don't even have any player who posted better stats than that in your team yet your nagging like a house wife.

Niggar GTFOH.

pu7pl3:
Whenever you're losing an argument comprehension is always hard for you, why?

It's an appalling lack of sportsmanship..but then again it's a fundamental Cule characteristic to lack sportsmanship [img]https://media./images/5c7a873791597dfa9f1b73fb00d68c91/tenor.gif[/img]

U know why you use memes so much right?

To mask your deficiencies.

Godx:
If you wanted to add assists and chances created then you should not have quoted me. You are the one turning the discussion to an area it doesn't concern. My initial post below stated clearly the area of concern I have about Messi.

I tried to explain why the entire team including Messi was struggling then you brought in the word decline.

And to justify your use of the word decline you kept on insisting on open play.

If you really think that you should judge him solely on that open play crap then someone has to check u.

Carry your myopic analysis out of here.

pu7pl3:
How can you be adding more goals without adding the new matches he played before he scored them? Magician I told you your slight of hand has been uncovered you think say na joke

Read your post again and make sense of it.

Then type again.

Godx:
We should have cash out on Messi this past window. Most teams would have payed 100million for him. We could have potentially save close to 200million from his transfer and wages. Bartomeu is an idiot.

Look at our attackers this season.

Griezman 1 goal
Coutinho 1 goal
Dembele 0 goal
Brathwaite 0 goal
Trincao 0 goal

Yet Messi is your problem.

All these anti Barca fans in disguise sef.

Godx:
Not talking about assists. Specifically talking about Messi scoring from open play.


* In 19 la liga matches last season from January to August he only scored an open play goal in 4 matches

*1:0 vs granada
*5:0 vs eibar 4 goals
*4:0 vs mallorca scored in 93rd mins
*5:0 vs alaves. Scored twice last game of the season.


All other goals were penalties and one freekick. In the champions league too he scored only one goal from open play in 3 matches (vs Napoli). 19+3=22matches

When we add the 3 league games this season that means he has scored from open play in only 5 of his last 25games for Barca.

For starters if You're talking about a "decline" and your definition of a decline is strictly when a footballer is not scoring goals from open play then that is absolute bullshit.

You remove freekicks, you remove assists, you remove chances created especially for a footballer who plays basically a free role, again that is a load of horseshit.

I did my research for the last 18 games.

And he scored 1 against Mallorca, 1 against Osasuna, 2 against Alavez, 1 against Napoli.

And a total of 11 Assists across them 18 games.

It's your own cup of tea if you don't want to talk about assists.

He is not a striker so when you restrict your assessment to goals from open play then you're been very myopic.

In his last 18 games he's been directly involved in 20 Goals for Barca.

Let that sink in.

pu7pl3:
Ronaldo has way more goals from open play in his last 18 matches..your slight of hand has been uncovered

Ronaldo >>>>>>>>>> Messi

Me; in complete amazement at how you drew this conclusion from the posts you read.

You're indeed a legend!

pu7pl3:
You just proved him right bro..what's your point? [img]https://media./images/26e9698b4c12a9adeedb4561d55ff255/tenor.gif[/img]

He says 3 Goals in 18 matches..

I say 5 Goals, and 11 Assists in 18 matches.

That is proving him right

WTF!

FergieRaww:
Put that same energy when talking bout CR7 too

Always been consistent with my opinion.

1. Both are in decline.
2. Ronaldo is a great footballer, one of the best ever.
3. Ronaldo is second to Messi.

Godx:
it didn't start from this season Bro. Messi decline has been showing since the start of the year and most fans are beginning to notice it at other Barca forums. Messi only has 3 open play goals In his last 18matches. He has only scored from open play In 2 of his last 18 matches. On top of that he has no position and just do whatever he likes.

Okay;

In Messi's last 18 matches for Barca, he has scored;

*5 Goals,
*4 Penalties,
*11 Assists.

This is summarily 20 direct goal contributions in 18 matches.
I bet you still better than 99 percent of all the footballers in the world.

It's a decline from Messi's standards alright,
but if this is what you're alarmed about a 33 year old then you're being unfair.


Make of this what you will. I don't know where you got your figures from;
probably lifted from an anonymous page.

Godx:
it didn't start from this season Bro. Messi decline has been showing since the start of the year and most fans are beginning to notice it at other Barca forums. Messi only has 3 open play goals In his last 18matches. He has only scored from open play In 2 of his last 18 matches. On top of that he has no position and just do whatever he likes.

just doing some research and I will get back to you.

18 matches that is 4 from this season and 14 from last season abi.

Messi has up to 10 non penalty goals in the last 18 matches.

I will get back at u.

Godx:
it didn't start from this season Bro. Messi decline has been showing since the start of the year and most fans are beginning to notice it at other Barca forums. Messi only has 3 open play goals In his last 18matches. He has only scored from open play In 2 of his last 18 matches. On top of that he has no position and just do whatever he likes.

He shouldn't decline in peace again?


Abi is he Jesus Christ?

Godx:
When are we going to talk about Messi struggles and inability to score from open play?

I said it here from the beginning; our opening fixtures for this season are fire!

Among the big teams in la liga we have had the toughest opening fixtures;

Sevilla
Villareal
Getafe
Celta

It's been a very tough start for Barca.

For a team that's undergoing rebuilding, we have not done badly.
With all Messi went through before the season, he's played very well.

The 'new' team will blend and Messi will score goals.

Even Griezman that is missing one on ones for fun should be given time.

pu7pl3:
Peep. Barca's current goal aggregate

Peep Madrid's current goal aggregate;
This means that just before the Cadiz game it was 6:2.

Remember 6-2? Does it ring a bell?

Rossuki:
Err...the north have repeatedly said that SARS has helped them reduce insurgency and banditry issues, and that 'ending' them would make northern states more vulnerable to those elements.

Stop being selfish and appreciate that it can never be a one size fits all for a nation like Nigeria.

We must accommodate their concerns up north too, and if it means confining SARS to the north, then that is the way to go.

Unless YOU are prepared to go up north to protect them from bandits and Boko Haram?

Don't mind these so called southerners.

They have this mentality of entitlement thinking that because we're more educated and enlightened so everything we say is right. Or that we have monopoly of wisdom!

If the North don't have any problem with SARS in their region and SARS has helped them reduce insecurity how then do you you expect them to join you in the end SARs crusade?

The right thing has already been done by the Government.

End SARS and form another reformed special police unit.
Investigate and prosecute all erring SARs men.
Finish!

But they still want to continue with their carnival.
We shall se how it ends.

Moura7:
Honestly, Dembouz should have continued the game, today wasn't just Fati's day. Pedri dey ball abeg and can give sharp passes too. FDJ, I don't know for him again, mediocre after mediocre performances lately. Dear na sharp boy. Alba should pls come back let's bench Sergi. Trincao is still yet to impress and Messi should just man the AMF cus regrettably he hasn't been that great on the right and cf role. Maybe he can sub for others in second half. Anyway, not to worry it's just the fourth game of 38 and we've still got two games outstanding.

I had wanted to call out De Jong but I just shut up seeing that he's a darling of most peeps here.

I have watched him over and over again and honestly I see nothing special.
He's at best just like any other decent midfielder out there, nothing so special.

Seems that he turned out like his compatriot at Juve, De Ligt.

Griezman not doing himself any good with such misses.