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Bastard Andre Gomez destroying Messi's assists.

Lol.

Merry Christmas y'all.

Paulinho for ballon dor.

anyways this is the nicest feeling i ever had before a classico.

with a win am 11 points clear.

with a draw am 8 points clear.

with a loss am 5 points clear.

Linkfield:
Una go cry here this afternoon.

which thread are you from? abeg tell us where to find you after the game.

laPULGA:
roberto and thomas starting

my gawd

This coach doesn't trust Semedo. Semedo will end up like douglas. Mark these words!

laPULGA:
roberto and thomas starting

my gawd

what!

dmcdad:
I need buy you beer, or any drink of your choosing.

lol. let's reserve the bottles for 3 PM. for now there are a few asses to be kicked at the bernabeu.

Neimar:
whu b dix?

Na weed taker.

Vermalen or Mascherano

Heywhizzy:
semedo Vs which Ronaldo.. the semedo that guedes almost destroyed

Robben once destroyed the career of Sergio Ramos and that of his generation.

And I am quite remember. Rakitic was the one who left Semedo dealing with 2 pacy valencia attackers cus Rakitic was useless in that game.

emmyspark007:
I tell you
I just hope valverde no go out Roberto o
Semedo vs ronaldo go make sense

Semedo is the answer.

Saintsammurai:
Our coach should start the match with paulinho..
we need his force, agility and never get tired character against a team like Madrid, especially with Madrid's mildfilders that are inferior to paulinho when it comes to force and power and Ramos and Madrid's defenders will be kind of afraid of paulinho, unlike Denis Suarez that they can overpower..

All I'm saying is that our coach should use 442 with messi and Suarez up front while iniesta and paulinho as an attacking midfielders supporting messi and Suarez..

Then busquet and rakitic doing the dirty job..

With this formation, Madrid has lost the midfield already..
well its just my opinion.

I need Paulinho and Semedo in that starting eleven tomorrow.

Hardecute

Messi almost single handedly dragged argentina to the world cup final.

Yes he didn't score after the group stages.
But he created chances all through the competition.
Messi isn't even the goal scorer/striker for argentina.
So why should goal scoring be an issue?

Well I am not surprised; Ronaldo fan boys are programmed not to see football beyond goals.
Why? Because their Lord Ronaldo is useless when he's not scoring.

Back to the issue.

Messi dragged argentina to the final and others like Higuain couldn't complement him in the final like others did for Diego Maradona.
The big stars they talk about like Aguero, Higuain, Pastore are serial floppers in an argentinean jersey.
Dr Maria never makes it to any quarter final without his legs failing him.
So I ask, who are the superstars?


Some of the detractors like hardecute say; no it was de maria who led argentina all the way. The very same de maria who broke his legs by the quarter finals?

Some say; no it was mascherano. The same mascherano whose only notable contribution was a good tackle against holland?

Confused bunch! Lol.

I am defindefinitely not up for this back and forth today, there's money to be made.

Taking your country to the FIFA world cup final and winning the golden ball is by far far far a greater feat than taking your team to a miserly euros final and not playing in it.
I can't be arsed!

*Goal scoring
*Passing
*Vision
*Creating chances
*Dribbling

I challenge you to tell me in what area Ronaldo beats Messi.
I challenge you to tell me where he even equals Messi.

snowstormm:
I find messi better....using the parameter stated above does it means zaha,neymar,hazard,dybala are better than ronaldo cuz they excellent in 4 to 5 of d formula stated


To me,best player is who performs most consistently and excell in big games

ronaldo is a million times better than them in terms of goal scoring. the margin gets too wide. they cannot be compared.

so goal scoring is the toast of football.

in this grading goal scoring could carry a load of say 10 while others might carry a 5 or thereabout.

and it gets ridiculous because messi still has got a far better goal scoring prowess than ronaldo.

imagine 30 plus goals in over 150 plus games!

Nihilist:
This is your opinion not a fact.

The undisputable fact as it stands is the Ronaldo has been awarded the FIFA award for world best player 4 times in the last 5 years which automatically makes a mockery of your earlier claims.



Same difference. Messi's run of consecutive Balon Dors unsurprisingly came during the period where Barca were the best team in the world.

Even looking beyond all of the awards and trophies. The techniques of football are as follows;

1. Goal scoring.
2. Dribbling.
3. Creating chances.
4. Vision.
5. Passing.

In which of the above is Ronaldo better than Messi?
Not forgetting that Ronaldo has just about 30 more goals in about 150 more games than Messi.

Absolutely none.
And that's crazy.

Picture Messi and Ronaldo in the same team. Messi would be excelling in all 5 of the above while Ronaldo would be excelling in just 1.

PS.

It's not even about the number of ballon dors no more.
Cus when Messi had 4 and Ronaldo had just a lone ballon dor, most of you could still swear that Ronaldo was 100 times better than Messi.

Nihilist:
Except Ronaldo has been voted the best player in the world 4 times in the last five years.

It's not a crime to support Messi, but as far as the entire world goes Ronaldo is the best player in the world.

Hehehehe. On the contrary Messi has been the best player in the world since 2009.

The ballon dor sometimes goes to the best player in the best team in the world. That's how Ronaldo gets a shot at it.

hardeycute:
How does this correlate with a Portuguese NT full of average players to a star studded Argentine NT?
Portugal 2012 EUROs semi finalist,eliminated by Spain(cup winner)After Extra Time
True
Are you not shameless?You mentioned why they were able to qualify which is according to the books

The fact is that their qualification was not a ruse but a merited one

You want to blame a team that won the cup or the so called 'heavyweights' that failed to deliver?This your logic is unreasonable

Fixed.

Never realised there is a reward for failure,playing in a WC final to only end up losing.A u20 and Olympic competition is being compared to a Continental championship?Do you have to sound like this to make a point ?
If we can't give credit to Cr7 for Portugal's EURO success why should we commend a serial failure?

2010 WC-Stat padded in the GS,in the Knockout stage he was lost and more importantly on that catastrophic night(to Argentines) he was missing

WITH RONALDO

1. World cup 2010 ronaldo features in all games and portugal gets knocked out in round one.
2. Euro 2012 ronaldo plays against spain and portugal gets knocked out.
3. World cup 2014 ronaldo features in all and gets knocked out in round one.
4. Confederations cup 2017 ronaldo features against chile and portugal gets knocked out.

WITHOUT RONALDO

1. Euro 2016 ronaldo does not feature in the final and portugal win.
2. Confederations cup 2017 ronaldo does not feature in the 3rd place against mexico and portugal win.

Infact ronaldo is the one holding the portugal side back. They lose when he features.

Portugal have never had no bums in their national team. All of these players played with ronaldo when in their primes;
Nani, Quaresma, Bruno Alvez, Pepe, Moutinho, Contreao.

Not the kinds of players to leave portugal struggling with north Korea and ghana in the world cups if you ask me.

Everything we comment on is in relative terms. Ronaldo relative to Messi. And so like you said while Messi was padding up stats in the group stage Ronaldo was padding a single goal against Ghana in one world cup and a sinlge goal against North korea in another.

That's why i mentioned grey areas. smart people always pay attention to details and see millions of grey areas, not so smart people do not care about details and see black and white, yes or no, win or lose. that's not me that's philosophy. Not winning the trophy doesn't amount to failure.

On an individual level playing in a world cup final and winning the golden ball is far far far greater than winning the euros while not playing in the final. On an individual level i say! It's logic, except for mischief makers.

It's not about deafening your eyes and blinding your eyes to the substance or the details.

There was nothing magical about ronaldo in euro 2016.
You guys just need to slow your roll about that.
Even after euro 2016 and a 5th ballon dor I still listened to several sport luminaries including Ray Hudson, Graham Souness and Gary Linekar who all still say it's not a debate, Messi for them all day all night.

It's not a crime to support ronaldo and claim he is the better player but trust me as far as the entire world goes, you are in the minority.

All these talk about Messi losing in 3 finals wouldn't change any of that.

Later he will play the religious card and say the name Jesus while insulting people. And then the so called christians will be clapping for him.

hardeycute:
1-1

2004 young Cr7.

2016 he had 3 goals 3assists(6/9 of Portugal goals) for his NT in defining moments.With the average players he has been unfortunate to play with unlike the midget with an insignificant number of stars.

Setting the facts right.

Portugal got to the semi finals of the 2006 world cup with veterans like figo, rui costa, nuno gomez and deco. That was the golden generation of portugal. Then they retired!

Since then portugal with cristiano ronaldo have flopped in every world cup with second round and first round exits.

Then uefa introduced the best losers' policy at the 2016 euros!

Portugal flopped in the group stages and managed to escape as best losers in a group with iceland, hungary etc.

For the first time ever a team got to the euros final without playing any of the european heavy weights like germany, spain, italy, england, and france.

Portugal eventually played a top nation france in the final and won the tournament without CRISTIANO RONALDO.

That is summary of the national team conquest of cristiano ronaldo; which you want to prove to us is better than playing in the world cup final and winning the golden ball. Better than winning the olympic gold!

There are a million grey areas. Stop flaunting euro 2016 around as if it's better than everything messi has done with his national team. It is not!

Lol.

Amaechi briefed on the textbooks' probe.

And Wike was minister for education within the period.

Wike awarded the contracts.

Very interesting.

Rubbish. Who cares? Celebrity status too dey shack naija people. I don't blame them for that though. I only blame those foooools who would see tiwa savage or davido or tuface and be shouting 'o my god' upandan. Celebrity my black ass!

hardeycute:


It is like the Lord's prayer to me but the fact remains he failed to win on those occasions.

messi has got 2 world cups and 2 copa americas to play.

he will win one trust me.

then it wouldn't feel like the Lord's prayer.

it would feel like alomo bìtters in your mouth.

PianoWizard:
You are an Hediot(I mean it)
At neymar's age, messi has won all there is to football except the world cup. Messi's hate will soon kill you. You come here to celebrate like the fool you are when neymar completes one dribble.
Talking about international trophy, how many international trophy does neymar have. Let him take his team to world cup final and lose we will applaud him.
Kiss the truth bro, your snake neymar can never be as great as leo messi.

Big fool,, hediot.

pls don't respond to that guy. his stupidity could be infectious.

eyoniggar:
They'll get their guard of honour, plus beating wey hard like ponmo . I hope sey my rhyme make brain.

lol. nice rhymes.

only you'd have to pronounce 'ponmo' with an english accent.

people wey dey struggle to compete for la liga dey find guard of honour for the same la liga match.

SMH.

hardeycute:
Why did you reply ?

Irrelevant shît like the fact your MCM is only a local champion? Losing 3 consecutive major finals?

¹/5 ×6 = 1.2.

Victor Valdez-2
Iker Casillas-2
Ramos-4
With your ignorance, you can still say no one has 1 award?I didn't post he is not the player with most award but here is your foolish post I stand to be corrected here

Can't you do without joining issues with the innocent fathers and mothers

you must think the bolded above is one hell of a punchline.

sorry but it's stale and wack.

Rivaldo thinks we should go with a 4-4-2 on saturday.

Rakitic Paulinho Busquets Iniesta.

Messi Suarez.

I am thinking it's a good idea.

laPULGA:
no matter what leo does

haters gon hate


trolls gon troll


and dogs gon bark

nobody expects leo to win the league every season

but FACT IS


NO MADRID PLAYER

born of a woman,

dead or alive..... has won more trophies than leo and
no active footballer has more la liga titles than the G.O.A.T

so yes we've celebrated the league many times and we will most likely celebrate it again come may....so there is no shame in celebrating the leagues best player award because ANOTHER FACT IS

No living thing under the sun has up to 1/5th of messi's lfp best player award

and all those mofo talking of world cup as if their fathers,mothers,MCMhas ever won any international final that they participated in.

the most stupid talk them all is saying that isco deserves iniesta's award when he only played when someone was injured or rested














L!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ironically the GOAT(the word not the acronym) who copied that post from twitter and put it up here celebrates even when neymar wins MOM awards.

Absolutely no need to rush dembele back in. Let's keep him in the freezer until the new year.

Krasid:
One of the few sensible comments we will get to see from this moniker. I suggest y'all should cherish it.

on the contrary it's quite a senseless comment. if you have won 5 ballon dor's in your career you have earned the right to celebrate anything, even a one-night stand.

veekid:
Only if nairaland has unfollow feature, this guy above needs to be blocked from seeing his copy paste nonsenses.... Seun abeg work on it

coming from the very same imp who celebrates even when neymar wins a 'man of the match' award.

never mind him, he's a world class eeeddiot.

Messi la liga MVP once again!

Messi has been voted best player in la liga in 6 seasons since 2009.

Ronaldo has been voted just once.

If the ballon dor was strictly for the best player in the world Messi would have 10 ballon dors since 2009.

The ballon dor is not for the best player in the world.

The ballon dor is for the best player of the best team in the world.