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nateevs:
@airmark

I genuinely don't have the time to go back and look for posts, and I mean that very respectfully.

If you look back at most of my posts, what you will find is me saying explicitly, that pound for pound, Jackson's output has been the best investment of 30m. My data-led argument was that it is okay to spend 100m or thereabout on a striker, but output cannot be marginal over Jackson's. It must be significantly better. And all the names you kept recommending were around that price mark, but with very marginally better output. It is a perfectly logical argument.

Just because it is not an outright "Jackson out" point of view does mean it doesn't consider a part of your view.


You will also find that I argue that if we had strong support cast, and follow the model of Madrid, Liverpool, you will find that a top 100m striker may not be necessary......I cited the successes of Liverpool and Madrid to back up this argument. I also cited how Spurs had the best striker in the country for years, and never won anything. Again, data-led argument.

Another perfectly logical argument that doesn't refute the purchase of a striker, but saying concentrate first on building other departments.



The third one was, "what's the point abusing Jackson every week?" He's not Haaland. He's not Kane. He was a 21yo, picked out of Spain, with little experience for 30m, by our owners' management strategy. You can decide you don't like him without coming for him every week.

This, and the other arguments don't equal a "don't replace Jackson" stance.


And you will find the same logical arguments from the likes of Kimbeast, Timbros, Singapore1 et al. I take time to read these fellas' POV and I can see the nuance in their respective arguments.


What you are doing is taking a complete anti-Jackson position, and repeating over and over that anyone who doesn't stand where you stand never wanted Jackson replaced. ............ This is a complete misrepresentation of our POV. And as you can see, you have now corrupted the views of these other guys who never followed the debate.

Who and who?


Name them

FutureFocus:
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kingBolton:
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If we talk, one of them go say we be blind followers

pansophist:
Every lady believe in their own exceptionalism.

They believe it is other women that will marry the poor men, not them.

Until they get older, and realise that the poverty their parents cant defeat is also hard for her and her man to defeat.

Then they settle

nateevs:
Two things could be true at the same time. You generally have more time than most people to repeat your stance. It doesn't really mean that people kept quiet. It probably means they don't have a much time as you do.

Second point. I can tell you confidently, nobody in here kicked against replacing Jackson. No one single soul.

Dem don dey change mouth

Kobojunkie:
Your earlier comment suggested more than what you now claim here, though. You sounded like that suggestion was the absolute solution for all unmarried people rather than just for you to be willing to test in your particular situation.

Mistake noted.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, let's ignore the numerous examples —Northern Nigeria, where referral marriages have remained the norm for at least the last 200 years — of how arranged marriages can go very badly wrong for those involved, so we can pretend it a solution for those in your shoes, right? Let's ignore the fact that, mean up north still find themselves divorcing arranged wives and marrying new, sometimes arranged ones, because we all need to be in your particular psychological situation there.

Bro I'm not quarreling with you my comment may not apply to other communities or people.But I feel that's what may help my case.

Kobojunkie:
You actually believe an arranged marriage is the solution you need in this day and age? Una no dey ever learn... that na una major problem. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If only you are in my shoes.


Due to the community I live in (with beautiful girls but total write off) , I really like beautiful girls but I love them to be well trained which is rare to come by so I have to agree with him.


Referral is the best way to go. So I wouldn't make blinded judgement.

pansophist:
The best way to get a wife is through referral (AKA arranged marriage).

Let someone you know, that you trust, and have your best interest at heart help you search for a wife. If you choose a wife yourself, you are more likely to choose base on wrong reasons.

A woman that you find attractive can easily pass as a good wife. Especially when she knows you want a wife, and she may act as a camouflage of a good wife-to-be.

With referral, there is something called ''third-party accountability''.The referral has a sense of accountability to the outcome of your union, and it is in his best interest for the the relationship to work.

Also, referrers can see things objectively, they know you, and your potential wife, and can vouch for the suitability of both parties. A referrers will not look for a wife through social media for you.

It most likely will be a girl they have known for long, and everyone knows who she is. So you will have no fear if you are marrying a repentant public property. Referral by design will filter the rubbishes out.

The area that you might have to compromise on is on attraction, because a referred wife might not make your preek stand

But in the end, we will all settle. It is up to you if you want a beautiful marriage, or a warzone because you married a lady with a big behind.

💯 Correct.


The wise one has spoken.


Noted for us yet to get married.

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raumdeuter:
when the wicked suffers the righteous sef fit collect

Brother Roland, Leave your Egypt and move to your Cannan

One of my friends, who used to support Arsenal, I think in those Wenger days after a humiliating loss, his wife who is a banteress started laughing at him, and he begin para for the wife, dey vex seriously, He told me that he sat down and thought about it say he wan scatter his family because of Wenger and Arsenal?

Na so brother relocate to Real Madrid started supporting Madrid, The wife no let am breathe she sef started supporting Barcelona

timbros:
You are lying to yourself in that bolded. Kimbeast literally posted my stance from the very beginning of this debate.... Was there any attack that messed up before I made that "balance" post?

Again, think for yourself. You have a brain. Make use of it.

You mean one of the multiple post you 'changed mouth'?



Actually I do think with mine. You are supposed to be telling yourself that because it's only those don't use theirs makes one wonder if they have any at all. Please don't make us insult each other.

timbros:
You do know that there is something called major problem and minor problem and that a balanced team fixes both part of the problems?

Read my comment again that Kimbeast posted. That has been my stand from day one. Infact click the link he posted to see the genesis of this debate.

Airmark knows exactly what a balanced team looks like but he never want to admit our defence has the major issue. He wants people like you to believe that anyone who argues against him is completely on the opposite side. Since he is pro attack 100 percent, anyone who has a different opinion is 100 percent pro defence. Does that make sense?

Statistics proved that our attack from last season massively improved from 2 seasons ago. But the defence from 2 seasons ago became more worst last season... So where does the major problem lie? An improved attack or a defence getting worst?

If I ask you for proof is speaking from both side of my mouth now, you will start running from pillar to post.

Think for yourself. Use your own brain. Stop allowing people do your thinking for you.

What is the bolded supposed to mean?


I'm not blind,I look at the both sides before I made final judgement. Because I support airmark most times doesn't mean I agree with everything he says. I think before I make a judgement bro.


Should we say those that agree with you doesn't think for themselves? That they are blind followers?


I've been here since the beginning of the defence vs attack brouhaha. Your major stance has always been to upgrade the defenders. Only when the attack fvcks up too much you tilt towards a balance team. Even airmark sometimes agree with a balance team but his major stance is upgrading the attack.


So make nobody change mouth.



Timbros - The defence is our problem

Airmark - The attack is our problem


Nobody should come here and say he has been pro - balance. EOD.


Balance ko, balanciaga ni.

Kimbeast:
These are the comments that started the discussion last year January. You can all see the argument was about improving our defensive play just like how our attack improved when compared to the previous season and striking a balance. Popi is trying to gaslight newbies into thinking that was never part of the discussion.

https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-champions/18599

Oga timbros especially was talking from both sides of his mouth.


Sometimes ( in fact,most times ) he argued that the defense is the problem some other times (when the attackers foolishness got him bewildered) he stands on balance.

WhoDeyHause:
Any one of them wey come, dem must collect from the master.
Because say we loose guard enter conference no mean say we be their mates. Nkunku go blow balloon taya that day.

popizaino:
It's so funny reading comments from timbros and BlueRayDick trying to gaslight readers on their initial premises on the defence and attack debates.

There is nothing balance about the inter-Milan teams at least not according to your initial premises or have you forgotten how it all started?

It all started when my team Chelsea started throwing away two goals lead and inspite of that i and airmark tries to fault our attack for not converting their clear cut chances.

What did we get in response to this was how we shouldn't blame our attack but blame our porous defence who allowed two goals to slip through their nets,also sighting examples of how a defensively great teams like inter Milan and your team with impenetrable defence of Saliba and Gabriel would defend a single goal lead talkmore of two.

Now those theories of yours has been rubbished by both your team and inter-Milan has they have thrown a two goals lead and you are coming to talk about balance.

Where was this balance when you were telling us a good defence like inter-milan and Arsenal need just a single goal from their attack to see a match through?

Balance injure both of you there.

End of discussion

FutureFocus:
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I remember 17 years old Donna for A Milan.


I felt he would go places and he did.

Gucciboy:

Crazy

Joezinho:
Barca and Arsenal had opps from everywhere. 😂😂This is the greatest generational hate watch of all time.

I won’t have dinner tonight. Inter and PSG fed millions of us…

Amethyst101:
The Citadel vs Aparisports wahala on this thread was premium banter and enjoyment back in the day

This was 2021 when Chelsea just beat Madrid to qualify for the UCL final that year.

so many Ls went round

These days, na so so Outscore vs defense

This thread is the greatest of all time.

WhoDeyHause:
Oboy hate watch sometimes dey sweet die.
Barka on Tuesday
Assnal on Wednesday
Manyoo own dey load for final.
Confirm point and kill this season.

airmark:
Blueraydick, my guy, I hope you have learnt the hard way as predicted..

Sit down and be humble.

I think PSG wouldn't find it easy without dembele.

WhoDeyHause:
But despite inter helping me to knock out that dead club I still felt for yamal though. Agenda aside. I honestly wished that boy can play in a serious team that can give him the chance to go for the biggest honours not serial bottlers like barka. How can someone be this good at 17 for christ sake? It even turned to a time it became yamal versus inter before their keeper put sand sand for his garri. How can you be making the right decisions most of the time at a very young age? Estevao come and give me this kind joy or even more abeg.
I live for Barka's downfall but if they somehow get serious instead of comparing themselves with real madrid or he leaves to a bigger club yamal will go far in football.

My prayers 🙏🙏🙏 honestly

Melvyn11:
After creating space what did he do with do ball? Raphinha contributed to 3 goals out of Barca 6. 2goals and 1 assist plus 2 big chance created. Yamal had 1 goal, zero assist and zero big chances created in both legs. Yamal performance can be compared to Doku vs Liverpool.

Na this kind people godey compare hazard and sterling

swiz123:
Sign Bastoni and see us competing for major honors immediately , but the useless board prefer the Bournemouth’s butterfly.

I often wonder how people like Boehly made it in life.

Super excited tonight



Where's Airmark?